AP Code 11.59 Review; I'm starting to lose confidence in AP's design capabilites | Hafiz J Mehmood

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@edotedy 3 года назад

Royal Oak: reminds me of a diver's helmet Code 11.59: reminds me of 'How would you define a luxury watch?'

@PurposefullyProcured 3 года назад

Great video. I’ve gotta be honest, I seem to be one of the few that has always really really likes this watch. There is so much nuance and much more than meets the eye. The case, lugs, and crystal design are awesome!

@conradofmc_ny6706 2 года назад

I love this watch too, Kevin O’Leary from shark tank has one with red band and it looks amazing

@erikig Год назад

It is a sleeper of a watch, not nearly as bold as their staples

@nlcke3265 Год назад

Love it, have one.

@donaldneo4317 3 года назад

I agree it looks like a fashion watch, it looks like a Vincero from far...

@vizuz 3 года назад

This, when I first saw it I thought it was Vincero

@drewski5150 3 года назад

Nailed it. This is exactly what it looks like.

@davidlowe4889 2 года назад

Ok I think it looks better than a Royal Oak!

@davidofglenbrook4487 3 года назад

Hafiz, just keep telling it like it is. We have your back on Patreon.

@andychang7137 3 года назад

That's why the AD told me that I can't get any steel royal oak unless I shop on things such as code1159 the dial is totally mediocre

@pistonburner6448 2 года назад

Seems to be the consensus, or at least most find the case to be beautiful but the dial is a disappointment. My theory is that their designers liked the Jacob & Co. Astronomias and they made their own conservative interpretation of it. I think the similarities are too much to be a coincidence: The case is essentially the same design. Same mostly gold-blue colour scheme too. The sapphire uses a curved design to stand out, only in Jacob & Co. it's convex while AP doesn't need the space and is more conservative so they went concave. In both it's a design feature using the curvature to stand out. Even the case flanks: Jacob & Co. has sapphire glass in the flanks and in APs the design is the same and in some Code 11.59 versions there is ceramic in the same place, giving a similar effect. Lugs are also basically identical to some Astronomias. Then of course the movement and dial is totally different from Jacob & Co. as they have to be. That's why the movement is good old trusty AP and doesn't really affect anything in positive or negative because it's not really visible and isn't problematic to adapt to the new design. But that's why the dial doesn't work: that's the part they had to figure out how to balance between traditional and new, and they couldn't think of a good new design for this case. But in the dials the similarities continue: Code 11.59s tend to mainly have nearly identical lacquered colour with the star-sky effect as so many Jacob & Co. Astronomias, of course usually combined with the gold.

@ksenthil20 3 года назад

I recently found your channel. Awesome work, Hafiz. The thing which really helps is the way you show how the watch looks from various angles with different outfits, basically the look and feel, and I don't come across any other channel with this much detailing. Appreciate it.

@HafizJMehmood 3 года назад

Many thanks for watching, and especially for taking time to leave the feedback :)

@kahuhipajae4088 3 года назад

I guess I’m missing something that everyone else sees. I think it’s a beautiful watch, but I do get what you say about ‘designer’ watch look too. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Great job as always .

@itshardtofindaname 3 года назад

Its hipster snobbery 101. If something appeals to to many people enthusiasts will automatically not like it in most hobbies. People who passionate this in most hobbies share this phychlogical need to be different tbh. I agree that's a nice looking watch, but what me and most people consider nice and stylish is frowned on by most watch nerds

@knutvonheim3838 3 года назад

I like the code 11.59, too. Especially the sunburst dials and simple date complication. Only the price stands between me and an order :)

@leokal457 3 года назад

I really do not give 2 cents on the opinion of „purists“ but i really dont get this watch. Should it be sporty? The lugs and the crown are very bulky. The case from the front looks more like a dress watch just like the hands. It just seems so incongruent as a package

@KuisineMS 3 года назад

I see painful title I hit like 🤣🤣

@HieuNguyen-jo9nf 3 года назад

I like the Code, but you are so right about the resemblance to Kickstarter designer watches. Especially in this Blue/Gold color scheme!

@daniel_anthony_k Год назад

"Would I still buy it with my hard earned money? I probably would, if I knew nothing about watches." I actually burst out laughing when I heard this. I really appreciate the candid commentary and unhesitating criticism of brand models that don't meet your expectations. Very refreshing and builds trust among your viewers. I also like your effort to match outfits with the watches you're reviewing. You put a lot of effort into making these videos and i appreciate it.

@yahyamuamer1 3 года назад

I wasn’t a fan either untilI tried the white dial and felt like it had a very elegant almost mid century modern aesthetic that I did like. Try that if you can let me know what you think because I agree The chronograph is a clear miss

@raymondleemanpaper Год назад

Probably the best reason to buy a 1159 is so that AP would sell you a Royal Oak.

@zakariatassamart1437 11 месяцев назад

Great review thank you Hafiz! Would be great to get the same for the new stainless and ceramic code 11.59

@redgt3244 3 года назад

The Royal oak looks so old next to the Code.

@hoyerwema11 3 года назад

Seriously, this looks like a Vincero.

@japd7897 3 года назад

The case and movement are astonishing, but yeah!, there is something that doesn´t work.

@luispadilla2212 3 года назад

I normally watch this videos on my TV while I exercise but first I turn to my phone to press the like button because I know it will be a great video as always. Thank you.

@0728451031548270jeff 11 месяцев назад

I simply love this watch and have from the first viewing. Different, but very AP, the people that don't like it will over time turn around. To me this is a real sleeper!

@tbd1613 3 года назад

Youre analysis is spot on Hafiz. Great video. AP is a two trick pony: RO and RO Offshore.

@scottlalonde2878 3 года назад

Great review, Hafiz, thank you. I get the feeling there's others than just AP desperately trying to be more than a one trick pony.

@riyadsquash 3 года назад

The one with the aventurine dial is nice, no?

@viceroygunrey4037 3 года назад

Looks like a Citizen Eco-Drive dial on top of a bitchin' case, crystal, and movement

@ocb05 3 года назад

More like vincero.

@bl1204 3 года назад

Love your reviews, always honest and forthright, and you don't mince words. 👍

@dk8797 2 года назад

You are completely wrong about the Code, the exact same words you used to describe the Code people in 1972 uses to describe the RO.

@kentan8235 2 года назад

I’ve changed my mind after seeing the 2020 releases, the two tones are awesome

@Champsterz Год назад

Actually tried the watch on in person at AP house few days ago. I think the real one looks better than website photo as you don't see the depth in photos. The design is growing on me. The size is also manageable not as big and heavy like the off shore.

@reverb508 3 года назад

The case is kinda interesting, but the dial is BOOORIIINNG. Looks like department store watch.

@major7551 3 года назад

Hoping you can do a SLGH005 white birch soon.

@Bianuni 3 года назад

An excellent beautifully made video as always 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

@watching_nyc 3 года назад

Bravo! Keep up the top quality work.

@mikonou 3 года назад

The most important thing is when you look at your wrist, do you like what you see? If you do, that is all that matters. Buy what you like, and you will never regret it.

@fliegerb777 3 года назад

We all can agree here that AP macro finishing details are better than Rolex. I have my brand new Air King has its hands are all scratched from factory. SMH. Great video as always, Hafiz. Cheers..

@Joe-xo3xy 3 года назад

He is correct about the dial, it does look cheap guys. The graduations on the sub-dial are not needed, the dial is lacking. I support Hafiz's view, honest and to the point. The case is really good looking but the dial needs work

@bearxj86 3 года назад

Great objective review

@wernerjacq 3 года назад

Nothing in common with the AP design language. It’s so overdone it became ugly. AP relies heavily on their Royal Oak and cannot produce anything alike. Simplicity should be key in their design is my humble opinion.

@omarfassifihri288 3 года назад

Totally agree.... stick on what you do well AP because with this kind of stuff you are trying to reach the patek’s level but you are still far in this category.. you may even lose some of Royal oak’s fan because of that.

@MrJkdaman 3 года назад

U know how to rip some a new hole while sweet talking to them. Well done. Ur macros are amazing. At this price point, there should be no marks anywhere. This highlights the poor attention to detail from a brand that is so highly desired.

@ryanpatterson9526 3 года назад

I actually like it better than the Royal Oak (which I never liked), but it does look pretty conventional.

@jackominty3633 10 месяцев назад

Conventional? I don't understand that. I've never seen a watch like it. It is very definitely a new thing. It is having a somewhat shaky start, but I believe it will have a solid future. But it's NOT a Royal Oak, so I would suggest folks stop comparing.

@jimbrown2044 3 года назад

The 3 hand version with black dial and strap in white gold is a lot nicer.

@kennethersgard8950 3 года назад

Brutally honest judgement call on this one: I cannot fathom AP has fallen below Grand Seiko in level of detailing and ‘acceptable’ blemishes...?!

@mrb317 3 года назад

Becoming one of my favorite watch youtuber s

@wt460 3 года назад

I think the new watch is absolutely stunning, and like it better than the Royal Oak. It’s just gorgeous! I personally think it is unreasonable to look at the hands with a ten power scope and complain about it. While yes, I agree with you that it could be better but it is also no big deal.

@Saints-Forever 3 года назад

Poor AP for trying too hard to come out with what they hope another icon watch like the RO. Genta would be rolling in his grave with this department store looking design watch even with the overly design case.

@Watch4Me 3 года назад

I randomly passed by 36 seconds after the video posts. It was meant to be.

@edgy8481 3 года назад

Yes, it does look...common.

@Maarten_official_account 3 года назад

Excellent review Hafiz. To be honest I’ve never been a fan of the Royal Oak either. They’re just not my thing.

@craig2100 3 года назад

Beautiful videography

@silverlakeas 3 года назад

AP used to have beautiful alternative designs from the Royal Oak in their Jules Audumars range. Gorgeous ultra thin watches which were truly wonderful, now discontinued. Then they gave us this. I have seen this watch in person & it is disappointing. Does remind me of a Armani watch.

@shadimagdy8196 2 года назад

Jules Audemars weren’t selling mate. It was the dog of AP. The code on the other hand is selling relatively well after the new dial updates. It just needs some time to evolve

@silverlakeas 2 года назад

@@shadimagdy8196 certainly the extra dial choices help. I can’t take to it though. And I would agree not all the Jules range were great but some were just beautiful. However if we all liked the same thing life would be boring. AP did have to prove they weren’t a one trick pony by just offering the Royal Oak. They do have that other design a wide oval, can’t think of the name of it at the moment!

@Treetopflyer777 3 года назад

Fantastic video. I like the video far more than the watch. It’s nice, but doesn’t inspire me too much

@TimG-- 3 года назад

I have a love hate relationship with this watch. Nice video mate 🥃

@jessyfavor9593 2 года назад

Idk why but I love this watch

@jamespalsson746 3 года назад

That dial looks like something from a fashion watch

@TheNoobtastic 2 года назад

The fact that you have to mention royal oak for a completely different line of watches by the same brand, tells you it's depth

@almeladze 3 года назад

I am pretty sure quarts crisis was not in the 60s but rather in the 70s. Same applies to release of the Royal Oak.

@HafizJMehmood 3 года назад

Actually the first Seiko Astron was released in 1969 that triggered the Quartz Crises. Royal Oak was designed in 1971, and produced in 1972, so technically the Quartz crises started in late 60s and made the impact in early 70s.

@shivabhinav 2 года назад

Please new ap ro offshore 43 rose gold

@PaublinoRamirez-iq6vj 3 месяца назад

I know I'm not as safistacated as a lot of other timepiece conaseurs, but I happen to think this new timepiece from Audemars Piguet the 1159 is Wright down God damn beautiful!!!! If there is a lot of consumers who don't like the 1159 then he'll mark that down on price, put it on sale and man I'll go buy me one or two of those beautiful babies!!!😊 (RUSH)

@NotYourNormalOP 3 года назад

also you see how thick that watch is, i'm disappointed to learn that they just produce mostly one size of the case to fit different movements. I don't think a simple watch with same should be the same thickness as a watch with complication

@pierremartin9048 3 года назад

Spot on.

@cnoevo99 3 года назад

After the Rolex video.....I always question now if you are reviewing a used watch that has been mangled..

@andrewgiblin3468 3 года назад

Do you think he disassembled the watch and scratched the minute hand?? How would a a used or new watch affect these photos?

@cnoevo99 3 года назад

@@andrewgiblin3468 By an aftermarket watch maker servicing the watch. Very common. Would be nice to know if it is a used or new watch.

@HafizJMehmood 3 года назад

Almost none of the watches I review come from AD or Watch Manufacturer. I borrow them from watch enthusiasts and people who own them. If watch manufacturer would send me watches, you’d likely never find an issue because they’ll already make sure that the piece sent to me is mint as!

@danysaliby9951 3 года назад

“You are truly missed Mr. Genta!!”

@JayandSarah 3 года назад

It's long term appeal and collection value will be directly inverse to it's current popularity. It will not sell in large volumes and it's retail lifespan probably limited, at which point in time people will bash their heads on the wall and proclaim "I remember when I could have walked in and bought 10 of these at retail, nobody wanted them". This is the same story over and over in long term watch history.

@lucentics 2 года назад

except for the fact that the situation you mentioned did NOT happen with all luxury watches, including even Vacheron Constantin and Patek Philippe.

@Django1847 10 месяцев назад

it looks amazing

@danr6175 3 года назад

Great review, aweful design, moderate execution

@shadimagdy8196 3 года назад

I really like it nonetheless 😌

@plantex625 3 года назад

Dial looks like a mall watch for sure. Case shape has alot of complexity but it adds nothing to the watch for me. I dont like the Royal Oak, it looks very dated to me. At least it made it statement though

@ronniep9272 3 года назад

Royal Oak looks dated? It looks brilliant, dated would be the Rolex Submariner.

@ACMEpowersports 3 года назад

Many brands are now suffering from this. Chopard as well. Beautiful piece but when it can be mistaken for an inferior watch it’s hard to overcome.

@straightlevel.cruising2644 Год назад

Code 11.59 is a beautiful watch, personally I find the white dial to be stunning. But every watch is beautiful to some people, and ugly to others. Given the money, I would buy it in a heartbeat.

@MrSaadmubarak 3 года назад

AP riding the Royal Oak coat tails...

@19NJS71 2 года назад

If that inner engraved ring were made of gold like the case..

@lucstas1922 3 года назад

I do agree. As much as I love the RO, the best watchdesign ever! We have to admit that the new movements are top as I might experience. However this watch does more harm than good to the company. This may tell something about the management!

@japd7897 3 года назад

The AP 11:59 doesn´t speak to me either.

@wataki_watcheswatakiwatche3160 3 года назад

It might not be another future ‘icon’ but unnecessarily harsh and unfair comparison to RO. It isn’t a RO and well done for them for not perpetuating this. Perhaps it inspires them to offer something else tomorrow

@branksomere6411 3 года назад

absolutely, at least 90% of people would agree on your analysis

@christopherliang6879 3 года назад

Movement: 10 Crystal: 11 Case: 10 Dial: 0

@OngoGablogian185 12 дней назад

I was in the AP boutique but it seems like even the manager has no real say over things. He explained that one basically has to buy a Code at minimum, and then he needs to get permission for who is allocated Royal Oaks. I'd love a 37mm but not at the sake of buying this expensive and underwhelming dress watch and probably a ladies one, too. I'll stick with my usual brands instead.

@nicks9058 Год назад

Your a Royal Oak Fan Boy. This is the new direction.

@jeremydahm2124 3 года назад

AP watches just don't appeal to me at all. I don't get it. Royals are for big lads wearing lots of other jewelry. The VC watches do the integrated bracelet better and are classier, less garish, in their design language. In my opinion that is.

@Kr0nicridah 3 года назад

Honestly I find the 37mm and 38mm Royal Oaks rather dressy and elegant. With one of those watches, you wouldn’t need any jewellery. I find the Overseas too large, and its chunky bracelet over-designed in comparison with the Royal Oak’s sleek look.

@jeremydahm2124 3 года назад

@@Kr0nicridah I agree the smaller Oaks do look much nicer. That said I feel like it's almost like getting a smaller Panerai...Not quite the Royal if it's not a jumbo......Again, just my opinion. Obviously they're all high quality pieces...

@OmnipresentCow 3 года назад

Trinity watches in general just don't do it for me at this point. They have excellent movement finishing and I appreciate that they've made some really high complication watches, but it seems like I'm just told to like them because of the brand, and the brands themselves have just gotten complacent. I rarely find myself wanting for any of these watches. I mean, what does AP have going for it beside the Royal Oak? If I was spending this sort of money for a watch, FP Journe or ALS just look so much better to me.

@Kr0nicridah 3 года назад

@@OmnipresentCow I used to obsess over Lange for the same reasons as you - I didn’t understand the hype behind the Trinity either. But when I got my first Royal Oak, I realised that classics are classics for a reason. The mere fact that AP is known only for its Royal Oak (which it isn’t to aficionados of the brand) is not in itself a valid reason to discredit it. Porsche builds pedestrian cars like the 4-cylinder Macan and the Cayenne, but its identity will always be associated with its scintillating flat-6 sports cars - and there’s nothing wrong with that, because those cars know their place in the industry. I still wear my Saxonia from time to time for its simplistic beauty, but on the wrist my RO feels like a far more special watch.

@jeremydahm2124 3 года назад

@@OmnipresentCow I agree mostly. Rolex has some icons in their line that I can't deny. But generally, your dollar can find soo many more interesting and unique options if you stray from the trinity.

@Nexus.Achiles 3 года назад

The only interesting Code 11.59 to me is the perpetual calendar with aventurine dial. That is a true work of art. Rest is meh.

@kingmaker5709 3 года назад

Most beautyful watch

@patrickdaly5988 3 года назад

Thankfully, in the less than two weeks since this videos release; the Black Panther has silenced any design criticism of the brand.

@mrtswift 3 года назад

Hafiz trying his best not to call it a fossil.

@zaf240489 3 года назад

Love the scathing review. This is a case of excellent execution but poor design.

@arnovda9479 3 года назад

Ouch 🙊

@1973833 3 года назад

When this watch was released,I thought,wtf were they thinking??Such an iconic brand,coming up with a new product looking like that?? Someone should be in jail for this.Some watches get more desirable through the years,but this one is not among them.At least in my eyes.

@maengel071 2 года назад

I can tell you have spent a lot of time producing this video and the shots are excellent. Same can’t be said about comparing an 11.59 to a Fashion watch. Harping on about the Royal Oak is getting tiring, especially when it was a flop when it was first released. A “Code” is designed to not be understood by everyone and I am afraid you will need to spend a lot more time deciphering this watch if this is all you have to say about it. I own an 11.59 time only and continue to be amazed, discovering detail after detail that generally is only achieved by ppl who produce 3 watches a year by hand. Are there “better” watches out there? Absolutely. Is it a true AP and more than a worthy successor to the Royal Oak? Absolutely.

@theonlyalex761 2 года назад

Can you please elaborate - it would be helpful!

@f0o0rest 3 года назад

Real gold, aliexpress design

@19NJS71 2 года назад

The problem is the bezel so thin.. if they fix that, and reduce crystal size.. it would look much better

@ado8683 2 года назад

Wunderschön da kann rolex und pp spazieren gehen 😜

@logwind 3 года назад

Ouch, if I were an AP designer, I'd probably start drinking after seeing this.

@roybatty6368 3 года назад

Metal of steel

@dlhussain81 3 года назад

Again AP are pushing the envelope and being bold. Beautiful watch. The quality is in the details. Most pateks look like rotary from afar but haute horology is about the execution of the finer details. The code 11.59 will be a classic

@dabbay 3 года назад

will I buy it with my hard earned money, I probably would... If i knew NOTHING about watches.... lol. the AP lover is not so impressed.

@watchnoob9342 2 года назад

Not sure why and how is the Code compare to RO in the first place. It is a new lineup with obviously no history nor it is trying to replace RO as they are two very different watches. It is trying to create its own history.. Overall I think AP did well on the Code especially with the new dial variants. Code is not RO and RO is not AP. Having the right perspective allows the right appreciation of the watch.

@johndavolta3124 2 года назад

Who can please people? People complain because AP is just Royal Oak, then AP produces something different and people bitch because is not a RO....wtf? If this watch had the Patek Philippe logo people would be all over it....

@vadominiqueenpunkt6589 3 года назад

AP is not Royal Oak. Go back before Gerald Genta and discover what AP really is and you see that the CODE 11.59 is more inline with AP identiy.Focusing only on the Royal Oak, which all "Watch nerds" do, is simply horological uneducated. Sorry ..... Code isnt the best looker but its inline what AP really does.

@mark10601 3 года назад

I must be the only one but...I’ve tried it on at the boutique and I really like it, it’s obviously not as good as a Royal Oak, but what is!?

@jackominty3633 Год назад

IMHO, you are just comparing the Code 11.59 to the Royal Oak. That's unfair, it's like comparing The Beatles to any other band. Judged it on it's own merits, I believe it is simply gorgeous. And I say this as someone who has both a 41mm Royal Oak Blue dial 15500ST.OO.1220ST.01 and the smoked blue dial on rose gold 3-hander 15210OR.OO.A002KB.03. Yes, the Royal Oak is the king of my collection, no doubt whatsoever. But it's also true that l love my Code, love the fact that it is not a homage to the lode stone, like the offshore is (although that was a great move). Love the fact that it is designed to within an inch of it's life. I can't believe you have so much hate for this beautiful thing.

@AP-gn9fd 3 года назад

It does look like a cheap mall jeweller watch

@oatmongen4263 2 года назад

To be honest, I never knew why they were popular in the first place, but kept my words to myself, as a case of to each to their own taste. I actually like this new watch more than their other watches too. It's a shame that it's so unpopular. They should have released a lot of watches at once instead, and made it look like they were simply diversifying their collection.

@NotYourNormalOP 3 года назад

i've seen this watch in person, not impressed. The fact that people only care about it because it's AP and sometimes they want you to buy 11.59 before they offer you an royal oak. The 11.59 is bland, not interesting, also somehow a cheap feeling to it.

@farhadfarajov8030 Год назад

Code 11.59 has grown on me after recent releases. New calibers are engineering pinnacle in watchmaking. We should bear in mind that it is not easy to develop a brand new concept after legendary Royal Oak. One constructive feedback though: please lower background music volume and speak faster in new videos. Thanks.