@@augistineaquinas3325 no I believe that too I just like to pass information down that I think is powerful and unique I always eat corn and my daughter loves and I'm el Salvadoran my family's from an indigenous tribe there so I believe in all these messages strongly
@Not Suspicious Human I'm san Carlos apache and I'm only 15 I'm proud to be apache and I'm telling this now resolutions copper isn't touching this land over my dead body ill sit there day and night and my brothers and sister lets keep fighting but don't result to violence we need to stand together as one
@Not Suspicious Human so building on scared ground isn't greedy. They can pull out they dont have to do it on their ground. Why choose it on native land.
@Not Suspicious Human how about looking somewhere else to mine for cooper. They are relentless and trying to find loopholes around the agreements between the US and the native lands. So yes they are greedy.
@The Logic Party OMG you sorry POS... Are you from the Americans I bet no... I'm betting you've spent no blood for it this country you live in... STFU... Simple Simon POS... The Native Americans deserve all respect ✊...
@Not Suspicious Human What does that mean though, you said enemies... As far as you can go back in history and across all cultural people humans have done brutal things against their enemies... Today and even back then we just use bullets to blow brains out... It's easier...
@@muddywater4505 still doesn’t negate the fact that your ancestors are not native to this land, your ancestors are from northern europe not THE AMERICAS
Leave the land alone its Apache sacred land and is beautiful. To ruin such a beautiful place for profit is a crime. There are also artifacts that still remain that may be destroyed, its one of the very few artifacts that still remain. For those who wish to show their support, i went to their apache stronghold website and they have a petition to sign to protect the land.
Montoy??? I am not our people is in Viginia and E lo hi ne Tse, GA lu hi gi ni du da, Nu da WA girl ni du da, Nu da girl ni li si and we have no cousins we have brother cousins are for the wite man and his pet people.
@Not Suspicious Human that’s really deep and insightful, unfortunately I do not agree and if the digging was taking place as you said “I think 50 acres away” the natives wouldn’t be concerned it is in fact happening on their land. You are an apologist, I understand copper is used across many industries and manufacturing processes. That being said the one they are trying to claim will take away campsites from a national forest along with access to climbing and bouldering trails in addition to the land that is quite literally their sacred land, This deposit, perhaps not coincidentally, lies underneath the sacred lands of Chi’chil Bildagoteel, and the company resolution copper looks to sieze this exact land. I do not fear these things, I am aware enough to call it for what it is, exploitation and theft, with awareness comes responsibility. With peace and love, Han.
If I was in their shoes, I would definitely stand by them and give my life to protect the land to the death. Stay strong my brothers and sisters. Never give up the battle. 💪🏼
@The Logic Party Or don't your choice... Seems like their is so much on your little mind maybe you shouldn't worry over things you can't handle... Let those who can stand for others you sit this one out... It's okay your good...
We the people of america unite and stand with this tribe over any corporation we must respect our mother earth make nature your religion and respect and put into law the rights of nature we is because it is
What does the EIA (Environmental Impact Assessment) have to say about this? A 2 mile sink hole doesn't sound like a thing that is easily mitigated and it would *have* to be to pass an EIA. Where is the EIA? Who passed this? Names, please.
400 yrs ago Apache and Navajo separated from each other but we share the same language there are distant cousins Navajo Nation is right behind you yáh'áh'téh dóó nízhóní yéé shí diné'éé hello from the Navajo nation Coyote Canyon New Mexico
The originals have helped each minority fight for their rights and it's time we band together and help them fight for their lands. We have other places we can get copper from for electronics no need to destroy a sacred land and national park in the process.
Stay Strong. Brave people. Hope NYT, National Geographic, etc.will do specials on this situation. More info on Apache Indians is needed. PR. Save these Indian Religious Sites. Praying for y'all.
We need more support from washington . This will not be allowed based on rights to own religion . Could be tied up in court for many years. Need more media attention . I will write letters . Try n put together a legal team .
@Ala Ska the lies started once the palefaces of the caucasian set foot on this land. So biden, trump and every other paleface here is only following in the traditions of the lies of their forefathers...
So, a double standard yet again. Those who were here before we invaded are treated differently. This was their land before we came and stole it from them. We disrespect them.
Why can't they reopen the mines that were closed more than 30 years ago? From what I understand, they were closed because there was a surplus and copper prices hit rock bottom.. Not because the mines ran out.
creator please bless my brothers for i cannot join their fight i pledge my life to this earth n our sacred lands i only need transportation i am ready to give my life wherever creator wishes
If you found copper under the Sistine Chapel would Catholics standby while it was mined ? Enough is enough. Recycle all the copper in land fills and no one will care if you mine a tip.
@Not Suspicious Human Not just that but there is nothing sacred about this place. I am from San Carlos, born and raised by my family and those around me. I started taking part in my tradition 5 years ago and ever since I started and this whole “Oak Flat being sacred” none of our medicine men care. They say it is not sacred and there is nothing special there. They say that it’s because our tribe is in it for “political reasons” and that we as Apaches should not partake in politics of another people. Wendsler Nosie, claims to be Chiricahua Apache and that this place is sacred to his people yet the land around was Western Apache territory.. My people the Pinal Apache lived and travelled around these areas. These people love to quote so much of the more well known Apaches being brave, strong, fighting for what was right yet his grandfather was an Apache Scout, a sellout to those continuing to fight for our right to be Apaches. They care more about this land then they do about our own people. Wendsler and the whole San Carlos Apache Council. They choose land over the well being of our members and if you ask me that is a disgrace to our ancestors. A place where sellouts talk so high and mighty, about how good our people were in the past yet they do nothing for us. Nothing changes..
@Aron Toulouse As Apaches we are taught that there are specific places that are sacred. I believe there are more important matters than land almost 60-70miles away from us that no one really used up until the 2000’s. I’ve heard from most elders that Oak Flat was what I guess you could call a “rest stop” for all tribes of the past because there was spring water, acorn and other various foods growing there. As I’ve stated before there are more important matters. If that land is sacred then yes it is a lost.. To me this sacred land should be somewhere in Apache history but it’s not. I’ve researched so much of our past because I’m dedicated to keep it alive as well as learned as much as I can from those that passed on and there’s nothing about Oak Flat. Even tried asking Wendsler and his family but none of them ever game me the reason why.. I’m not like these modern day natives who complain about every single little thing or “peaceful”, I know my history and culture of my band the Pinal Apache and embrace it whole heartedly. Don’t tell I’m not native just because I don’t fit your own personal values. A reason why most people don’t get along because of those that impose their own ideals onto others. I’ve been dark since the day I was born and Apache and Hopi blood flows through my veins. Love to see you say I’m not “native” in person than I’ll prove to you why us Apaches are still ruthless to those who cause problems. To me I think about the past during the Apache Wars.. While it may be different times, you learn that they didn’t fight for land. Especially towards the end of the wars, they fought to be true to the Apache ways and to protect their people to the very end. A part of our history no one likes to talk about because we were “killers”. The reason I feel this has importance now is because Wendsler and the council care more about that land than the people they should be helping. It’s always been like this and I know it always will until someone else takes their place. They took so much from the people, did so little for the people, and wasted so many funds that went to waste.. Even now the Council is trying to make an 1,000 acres farm where there is no water at all. The most dry place on the San Carlos Reservation. So tell me why is land more important than the well-being of our people and our current resources..
There is no question this land should be for the first TRUE Americans. For the Apache it would be like destroying a church, even worse our religious freedom.
Hi everyone I'm san Carlos apache and I'm only 15 I live on the san Carlos apace reservation and I just wanna say you got to stop doing this they did it to our parents grand parents etc.and now there doing to us and I'm to stand with my brothers and sisters I'm not moving over my dead body if your gonna takes this land then your gonna have take me down with it #save our home
Thank you NBC for actually covering a really important issue... PERHAPS Do a show on how much COPPER can be recycled on the planet plenty to create jobs etc. and keep Earth precious ....
It is very sad how the government and others that have no knowledge of the native way of life and they keep taking without respect to the people that is holy, every inch of our native land is holy how would they like it if the church they hold holy to them is gone,sure they would cry for it,why don't they keep to their word when treaties were made, lots of power to you my Apache Brothers and sister,may you hold on to the holy ground
Wow destroying more nature. Watching this it’s very sad. Could you imagine your city where you go to church where you got baptized married your life lives. They find copper or oil or diamond or gold they want you to go away find another place. I hope they finds good solution. God bless and protect them
on this on i kind of bust a nut blood is laws or science or what network tv Spit and a social studies text book for child err spit or chatter or matter of patterns repeating losers SKY DADDIES and who was the Clovis or the Eskomoe
The U.S. government cares more about preaching human rights to other countries while hypocritically dismantling, demoralizing, and dehumanizing my people and other Indigenous brothers and sisters.
Which Copper Corporation is doing this ? Kennecott is coming up through the canyon and Magma Copper Corporation is coming up from Superior ? It really doesn't matter which one it is ! STAY STRONG Hopefully I will be able to come later this year !
Alas, those without the understanding of knowledge , will reign cursed with the knowledge of greed. They`ll never be content. Until all the resources of earth r spent. But none, but the holiest of the land will grieve. those who lived by the land, respected the land. While those of modern design. Will lead us to end times. Mather Earth, & Father Sun, speak their discuss`d. your right to your history. is your right to your way of life. stand stall. peace&goodwill. TT"
Its unbelieveble how everything has a price tag, the Original inhabitants of this land seem to be the only ones who always understood how sacred it is, while the short sighted white man split it up like a giant pie killed all the self sustaining animals such a buffalo & created monopolies and corporations & still we want more, its a never ending void im afraid..
Yea sure it will create 1000 jobs..but the flipside of that coin is that the jobs that is created from mining copper will benefit those with college degrees..not for your average person...like I or people reading this. Yes I have diploma but long story short. Them saying that "oh it gonna bring jobs and create jobs if approved mining" it's a b.s. excuse.
This is sad, never enough for big corporations. This copper should be their's. To improve their quality of life for once. . Come on USA give it to them. After all they owned it first!
