Apex 2015 - Armada (Fox) Vs. Leffen (Fox) - Losers Finals - SSBM 

allotheabove123 PPMD'S Falco is a beast.

NegaPanda64 He is The Punisher with that Fox.

James Cooper lol I just imagine his red fox with a chaingun and a while disposal of guns around him.

Armada will be missed

Maybe Leffen can instil so much Smash Ultimate hate within Armada that he revives him, and brings him back to melee.

depolarization It was hype. Until Armada easily swept game 4, lol.

Yea exactly, Leffen's personality gave the smash community something original that no other basic boring person could offer. You'll notice a lot of bandwagon hate towards him.

re4jlsk2 There's bandwagon hate, and then people who actually used Smashboards before leffen got banned.

re4jlsk2 He didn't add anything original. Leffen just hopped on the bandwagon with Fox.

Chunskuru lol

Brandon Kabamba nah Arm hit with a falling Nair. He made a mistake

@@skorcampbell2539 wow

implying the legends aren't good enough anymore. go to bed, child. It's past your bedtime.

Firion Salamand I just said Leffen was good.

Firion Salamand Lol, he didn't imply anything about anyone else. He was speaking strictly about Leffen.

It isn't an "online" personality when you are sitting there literally laughing in someone's face smugly as you take a stock.

Leffen plays good but he is literally the epitome of bad sportsmanship in the smash community. I don't care how good someone is, if they are acting smug and disrespectful when they're winning and then be upset as hell; throwing controllers, stomping their feet, and pouting, when they finally get their butt whooped then you do not deserve to win at all.

>implying armada never played fox before, i mean he has been on the elite scene for like 6 years

Like I said, "Beat the guy who's always mained Fox." I never said Armada never used him, he just never mained him.

ElTioTotis Yup. Plus, wasn't Chillin even longer? So what do you have to say now? P.S.: Beware. Because you may say something that applies to Leffen without you knowing it. Leffen, no matter how long, will always be worse than Armada. Get used to it.

RedHairdo Wow, someone's feeling snarky. I know Armada's better than Leffen, but Armada has played as Peach and has lost against Leffen, so Armada switching to Fox and beating Leffen, (someone capable of beating Armada's Peach,) with Fox is boss. That's all I meant, no need to get so ginger on me. And come on, Chillin's past his prime.

Didn't know, that's really interesting.

Tell me how he's been "toxic" as you say *lately*?

Leffen > Armada

I laugh so hard whenever Leffen fanboys come to his rescue. How dare you insult their god!

Dan Cosme Three of those Leffen "fanboys" came to his defense coolly and respectably. Don't see what's to laugh at.

Dan Cosme I asked a question to prove a point. That makes me both a fanboy and think Leffen is a God *because*? It's possible I could just respect the guy.

"currently" we have our legends, our smash gods in their time. leffen is just a toxic addition to the smash community and it is sad to see someone with talent act so smug rather than play as equals.

Every match that amarda and leffen have, amarda always body's him

xavier comas not beast 5.

xavier comas Not at all, Leffen has beaten Armada a bunch of times.

tknick90​ exaggeration man...

dude maybe because chillin disrespected leffen with that video ?

Luis Montes After Leffen called out chillen's sponsor and team and said him being a choice was terrible

Kame Rob Still a full (weak) rap video dissing him and his abilities, and apparently he was a bad choice. lel But still, Leffen can get there, he's going to have a really hard time though.

Gavn Mehro Like I said, Leffen is definitely better. But the initial disrespect and him laughing while they played just wasn't necessary.

Kame Rob We're talking about Leffen.

I don't. Tried liking Leffen but the guy calls everyone out. Honestly, can't even like him as a player at this point.

***** LOL If you haven't noticed by this point in your life its kind of asinine to call people out through a large following of social media for no reason at all. Maybe it wouldn't be so bad if he wasn't so vulgar in doing so, or MAYBE if the people he's been calling out weren't actually nice people. After a day of being a "god" he managed to call out both Hungrybox and M2K for dropping off in tournies, and even went on a series of insults toward Hbox, claiming he was a superior player. And don't give me the "oh he's just playing the villian act" bullshit. He has a spiteful, toxic, trashy personality, which completely outshines any of the nice things we've seen him do or say. Also, yeah, i actually do think everyone should be polite to each other? What would be wrong with that? When your opinions go against everyone else's just for the sake of having a reason to be an asshole to others, it's hard to find likable qualities in you.

*****. I haven't made anything up about him, as a matter of fact i have proof to back up everything im saying, hell, leffen's twitter basically shits proof. Regardless of any evidence you THINK leffen has regarding the M2K/Hbox/Chillin trash talk. It doesn't make his toxic comments any more necessary. Leffen is ALWAYS the instigator in these situations, and that's why i have a problem with him. Just because you can make an observation, doesn't mean you have to write it out on a social network where you have a large following that will not only agree with you but FIGHT for you as well. Notice how most (if not all) of the other gods are very responsible when it comes to situations like this. They realize they're the figure heads of Smash and that there is no reason for immature, senseless trash talk. Call it whatever you want, but those "observations" are spiteful and rude and i'm bewildered as to how you can even claim he's not intentionally being mean and aggressive. As for the whole 'You can't be polite to everyone thing" your argument contradicts itself entirely. You spent 2 paragraphs justifying why Leffen acts aggressively, and then go on to say that people constantly seeking conflict are to blame.... LEFFEN IS ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE!!! How can you SERIOUSLY not realize this while typing that sentence? Leffen HUNTS for conflict all of the time, and calls people out constantly. He is one of the people who you claim are the reason everyone can't be polite to each other. He's not standing up for himself, and nobody is walking all over him, he's truly just going out of his way to insult others in the community. I can "merely observe" that you're clearly an opinionated fanboy, but i wouldn't go talking trash about it on twitter just because i have a large following to manipulate and rant to.

***** At what point did my argument stray from Leffen? Just because you've run out of arguments doesn't mean you have to falsely invalidate mine. Lol, are you telling me that between hbox, m2k, and ALL of team liquid(about 6 people), that's not enough to justify my claims? Lmao a major player should openly have that many public arguments for no apparent reason?? Leffen called out team liquid, which INCLUDES chillin, and Chillin stood up for himself. (like you said, you can't just let people walk all over you, right?) He was clearly salty about not being sponsored due to his vulgar personality, and decided to trash talk those were more successful then him. Give me ONE good reason as to why it was okay for Leffen to point this out and MAYBE I'll consider your point of view. Leffen IS a conflict seeker in that he's provokes others by passive-aggressively harassing them. I don't think you have to be FRIENDS with everyone, by the way. But being courteous/polite is entirely different. As a matter of fact, it's so fucking easy to do so, that by not showing any respect you're truly displaying how much of a dick you are. It's clear after this brief discussion with you that you share the same toxic opinions as Leffen and therefore changing your mind is futile. I have no interest in speaking any further unless you have something of importance to say.

*****"There are people in everyone's life who seek conflict. We can either stand up for ourselves or let those people walk all over us. I for one choose the latter." I'm not trying to be a dick or anything, but I figured I'd point out that by using "latter" the way you used it, it means that you'd rather have people walk all over you. Choosing the "former" would be standing up for ourselves lol. Former and latter are used chronologically, and refer to two phrases in particular order, former being the first, and latter being the second or last. I must leave now, other comment sections need me!! *whoosh*

chill

croak x I personally think Leffen has better technical skill but Armada's punish game is just so crisp.

Armada is not a technical Fox at all, he's just good at the ditto; he knows how Fox approaches since by playing Peach, he has to be very methodical on forcing a hand on where his opponent can hit him.

***** maybe, but those deep shine spikes are not easy. and he had incredible pressure on leffen's fox to the point where Leffen wasnt the one approaching anymore and Armada still took him to town. Plus the whole whooping on Mang0's falco [sure mang0 might not be uptoscratch on falco anymore, but that doesnt mean much when you're talking about Mang0]. His fox is definitely up to scratch.

***** Beat Mangos Falco Beat Hbox Puff Take a set from PPMDs Marth Just good at the ditto..... does not matter if it's better than any Fox, excluding Mango, have done in 7+ years basically.

***** are you kidding me? Armada's shield drops are way better, his movement is way crisper, he's doing double shines out of shield, and his chain grabs are way better. Armada's tech is wayy better than Leffen's. It looks to me like Leffen has a better understanding of the ditto but Armada's pressure is just so relentless that he can't get any room to breathe.

LOL

20XX might be true

I think he does this because people are figuring out his peach. But honestly I think armada peach beats armada fox

danilom951 Armada's Fox honestly is more better. The fact that he was able to take a low tier character and make her look like a high tier character already shows what he's capable of with using a high tier character.

Are you calling him a furry?

I see him more like an immature crybaby

Like a few months before APEX and paragon I think

***** VERY long. He just doesn't pull him out at tournies.

since genesis grand finals set 2 vs mango in 2009

*Sweden.

Because hes probably so sweaty they slowly slide off. Whenever he takes a stock or loses one, he gets some time to slide them back on

it indicates that he's about to go full anime

+Hamad Althani Umm.. looks to me like his sponsors

***** why did she hug him?

+Hamad Althani People usually do that to show their happiness and support.

***** oh

+Hamad Althani Armada has a girlfriend in Sweden iirc