Apex 40 Longboard vs. Truck Impact 

Camera guy thought the board broke and turned it off, then turned it on when he saw that it didnt.

Hey Sean, We actually warranty the Apex for an additional 6 months beyond any of our other boards (a full year) but more importantly we warranty it against all types of riding breakage. That is something that no one else in the industry does. Were you to buy a different board from a different company, and stomp a trick wrong / off the trucks, you would snap your board and not be under warranty. The Apex was built to absorb incorrect landings and unlucky drops, so you would be covered.

Hey everyone! I really hate to do this because I hate it when people do it but there are some guys that are just absolutely hilarious and they're excellent at longboarding. I just felt like helping them out because I was entertained for such a long period of time through their videos. They are a channel you can check out when you're bored like me most of my day. Really sorry to just make a comment that no one cares about (please forgive me) but these guys don' t have a lot of subscribers so just wanted to let you know about them. They do wheel reviews on downhill rides and give an in depth review about the wheel while they are riding them. They have a mike in their helmet with a car and some kind of GoPro setup on the hood. I don't know the exact details but no one really cares about that. The point is is that they are awesome and I just think they should get attention. They are called LongboardReviews. Thank you for reading, have a nice day, and go longboard!

Hey Slaw, The main thing to remember is that any board will flex, and for that reason a lot of boards will survive a roll over the middle of the deck. Whats so hilarious about this was the actual method of the impact which show cases the reinforcement in the neck of the board. If the neck had flexed the jeep would have rolled up and over the trucks / wheels but it stayed stiff, and didn't break. The Apex 37 actually uses more Carbon (by ratio) than the 40. Stiffer by a touch for the 37.

one day ill get a Originalskateboard Longboards and that day will be onr of the happiest days of my life LoL

The Apex 40 starts at $219 for the deck, if you are into the newer drop style check out the DiamondDrop coming out later this month. This combined with the noseguards (PKs) which were just release for the Apex 40 truly define the board and make it unique in the industry. While there are a lot of double kicked boards out there with bamboo or composite construction, none of them have protection for their kicktails that adds serious performance for freestyle while also protecting the deck.

What wheels are those, no they are not flashbacks. I have flashbacks on my diamond drop. They are not brightly colored like that.

This was the Apex 40 DoubleConcave, Aside from the nose and tail damage sustained from impact which is only a very slight improvement over a traditional maple or composite construction (the improvement being fixability) the Apex 40 is going to be drastically stronger through the neck and body than you might think. After inspection of the board in the video I believe that your Apex 40 would in fact survive this were the same impact to occur.

i wish i was buying original skateboard.... i have to go for something cheaper though :(

Petter is set to head back to school (though he will still be riding with us) in the fall, he has done a lot of work shooting with us this spring but much of his footage has yet to be released. Look for more of Petter in the near future!

WHAT IS THIS WITCHCRAFT??

I usually recommend to beginners to go with a Pintail! They are offered in 4 different lengths depending on your size. These boards are meant for cruising and carving, and are great to learn the basics of longboarding- pushing, cruising, carving, smaller hills, and beginner slides! -Lindsay

This is fake... See how the video skips! It doesn't show the car releasing the board

There is no crack in this board and it is on my wall in my office with a giant burn mark where it dragged across the pavement (which you can see in the video). It was ridden for the rest of the prototyping season after this was shot, Nick turned off the camera for a second when he thought the deck broke but turned it back on when he realized it didn't.

@squack921 If you are happy with your wood boards performance you are not the customer we built the Apex 40 for. If you have ever broken enough wooden decks to question whether it is worth learning that trick that was causing the breakage, that would be a different story. Buying multiple wood decks (after you break them) is absolutely an option. Also keep in mind this is a 1 off. One board to mold that does not lose shape. That may or may not have value to you.

Hey! The Apex 40 isn't just made out of wood, it also has carbon, which makes the price go up. Also, between the concaves, the kicks, the gas pedals, and the entire structure of the board, only one board can be pressed at a time, unlike other boards that can have multiple ones made at once. The process of creating this board is takes time, and there is much more going into it. Really, what you are paying for isn't that expensive for an all-performance, durable board, that will not limit you.

@gaminginfofornoobs Depends on whether you are talking about riding downhill or racing downhill. Riding downhill (under 25 to 35mph) can be done on almost any longboard. We make more than a few that would work well when you combine that with carving and some sliding. Racing downhill is more specifically oriented toward speed with equipment made by many specialty brands who focus on that section of the sport. Right now we do not make a racing specific deck.

@longboardingdays847 the Apex 40 with double concave would be a great board for you. It's a strong board that won't snap during freestyle riding, and the double concave keeps your feel locked in during freeriding.

37 is made using identical materials to the 40, the only difference being that the Apex 40 needs more fiberglass / carbon to keep it stiffer at the longer wheelbase that it is setup to use.

Freeriding means riding down hills at higher speeds while doing slides and tricks. But, since you said you're not looking to do tricks, I think you mean you're looking to just cruise and carve. If that's the case, check out the Pintail 40! It's a great board to learn on and it is meant for cruising and carving purposes. -Lindsay

Yeah man, the funny thing is that I took that board over from Petter when he went back to Norway and rode it for another year straight before retiring it for a new one (since it made sense to have a production board with a graphic for hitting up events etc). Solid boards to be sure.

Dah! Say it ain't so Victor! Getting your deck jacked is a pretty sure fire way to ruin a day. I had one of the first boards we ever made stolen from the back of my car a couple years back. Sucks. Not sure if you caught the new Apex DiamondDrop video but carving is a really important part of the Apex. Sure it can slide and I think its one of the most high powered trick boards of all time, but carving is key fo sho. We can probably help with a discount since your deck got ripped, callup

@SpeakLikeBatman That would depend on the board you want to buy. If you aren't into the Apex ($219) but still want 3 times the press times, low stack sizes for concave accuracy and all A grade veneers you could choose to go with the Freeride 41, or Freeride 38. $120 Deck / $130 Deck should give you more than enough room to build out whatever setup you are looking for, assuming you are prepared to pay for the extra quality / machine / press time.

@WargasmJewce you would get a good amount of flex, but you do not have to worry about the board being too flexy and bottoming out because it hard a carbon reinforcement bar.

@BlackRougeTactics If your more into freeriding you should go with the freeride. The difference between the Av and the double concave is the double concave is more geared for speed/freeriding.

@mufmaxtv It isn't a cheap way to diver the conversation. It is the reality of riding the way we ride. If you downhill, you know that there is no correlation what-so-ever between wheels and decks. That is because you aren't abusing your deck, not because your deck is stronger (or strong enough to do what we do). Most of us aren't downhill racers, We ride differently. That wears boards (and wheels) differently. If you race, or if you don't break boards, this board is not for you.

@iiGnut Besides the 3 inch difference, the Apex 37 is also a bit lighter and more for flat land freestyle. The Apex 40 has kicks and comes in two different concaves, av rocker and double concave.

@ericthegamer10 as posted a few comments down: Both concaves include kick tails, gas pedals, and a carbon reinforcement bar. Either concave is fine for freestyle and freeriding, but the double concave is geared more towards speed. It locks your feet into the boar for slides. The AV Rocker has taller kicks and is better for freestyle riding.

@PayneKillerxD It's really personal choice and it depends on the type of riding you are more interested in doing. The 40 is a bit easier for freeriding since it comes with the double concave, and it also has kicks which helps for freestyle riding, however, it's a bit heavier than the Apex 37.

We can do delivery to Romania, We ship worldwide with UPS which takes 3 to 5 days to deliver. The Arbiter 36 deck actually ships for free worldwide as well, not that that will help if you want an Apex 40, but who knows haha

@WoleeJolee you can use Original trucks with the double concave! If you plan on freeriding you may want to go straight to the white springs for a bit more stability.

@techplusxbox they're both a lot of fun. If you really can't choose, rocker if you plan on doing more freestyle, and double concave if you plan on doing more freeriding. However, either concave can do both types of riding!

@Taco538 the Pintail 43 would be a good board for you to learn on! It's a stiffer, stable board, that's low to the ground to make pushing easy. Put some white heavy tension springs in your trucks for a higher resistance and you'll still be able to carve and be stable

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@BLXFrandy The Tan Tien has a bit more flex since it's made with bamboo and is great for carving. The Apex 40 is a bit stiffer and more durable since it has a carbon reinforcement bar. It also offers two concaves. The double concave would be a great choice for you since you're looking to ride hills since it offers comfy foot placement.

@LifesVids When you think about price, think about wheels first. How many sets of wheels does your board last you? Prior to the Apex 40 we went through 2-4 four sets of wheels per $120 wooden Freeride deck. That means we "spent" $80 to $200 on wheels. Under the same, more rigorous, freestyle ridding the Apex 40 pushes 7-15 sets, or $280 to $600. That is loading an inexpensive $40 set of wheels. The focus on over priced goods should target urethane, our carbon is doing it's job.

@TheProjectLongboard This board is great for freestyle tricks. You could get either concave, but the AVrocker is geared towards freestyle.

DoubleConcave is more suited for all-around riding and freeride, the AvRockerConcave is wedge making turning easier at slower speeds which is good for a freestyle board. So. Freestyle and tricks: AvRockerConcave, all-around with some freeride: Apex 40 DoubleConcave.

@BunckenburgT you could do freestyle with either concave, however, the av rocker is geared more towards freestyle and its kicks are a bit higher to help with torque.

i started with the Apex for my first and it was great. the best part... when i got better its a great freeride Trick board.

@iMeeep the Apex 40 double concave would be much better for the type of riding you are looking to do. The double concave gives you a comfortable place to put your feet during slides or tucking at high speeds.

@captain045 Both concaves include kick tails, gas pedals, and a carbon reinforcement bar. Either concave is fine for freestyle and freeriding, but the double concave is geared more towards speed. It locks your feet into the boar for slides. The AV Rocker has taller kicks and is better for freestyle riding.

Because the flex is not to handle a truck, the flex is to handle the weight of the rider and to provide the intended control and performance. Once you go outside the downhill box flex is not a bad thing, particularly when you control the exact location of the flex like we do. We are the only company I know of CNCing our fibers to achieve that, but it has to do with performance, not just strength. They can survive many impacts BUT they are designed to be skated, not run over haha

@kmacuslegotacular the Freeride with rocker concave. The reverse camber pushes the trucks outwards enough to make sliding easy.

@squack921 You are welcome to go with a wood board, but we have done the math on the value the construction adds, particularly for freestyle. You are spending more money per year (averaged) on boards by buying wood boards assuming you ride often enough to break them. While the factor of improvement (Quad-Ax+Carbon) over a fiberglass board is no where near that of the improvement you see over wood, you are still spending more year over year buying something else.

I got my Apex 40 a couple days ago. It didn't take long to get here, and the customer service was fantastic. All I can say is: Original, you are the best.

Hmm, sometimes we end up with a blank deck for whatever reason. You can give a call and ask if you want a blank board, they are not always available but sometimes they are.

The boards are the exact same construction, so, yes. In theory haha The DiamondDrop is a significantly stiffer, due to concave design, when compared to the DoubleConcave and AvRockerConcave. That said, the materials are the same, so in the case of a catastrophic impact (like this one) they *should* react the exact same way, though the only way to know would be to try it (which would take way too long to replicated given that this whole thing happened by accident) _Scott

@augsterlee We have our Manhattan 27 and Apex 34. We are going to work on the Derringer but it may not be until 2013 that we have that board available.

@pncho54 It's pretty snappy for freestyle tricks. It's not super flexy, and it's stiff enough for freeriding control.

@HackYourFace yes, but certain types of decks, trucks, and wheels will help make sliding easier. 78a wheels are very soft and tend to grip the the pavement. Usually, you want to look for a wheel with rounded edges and a hard durometer, above 80a. As for your deck, some decks are specifically designed for sliding, such as our Freeride decks.

Sounds like everything worked out with that Apex kwr. Stoked to hearit. How did it do as far as durability?

You are a pretty small rider, if you are looking to just cruise around / carve (just for fun) check out the Original Pintail 37. If you want to get into more advanced riding / sliding or tricks you could check out either the Original Freeride 38 or the Apex 37. Either one would be well sized for you.

@LosManolosAfricanos they are both good for freeriding, but the double concave is geared more towards freeriding than the rocker.

@cnimmas Do you want to do more of hills/sliding or more freestyle tricks? If hills is more of your concern but still want to so some tricks go with one of our freeride boards. If its the opposite then go with either the apex 37 or 40.

Hey Alex! I really like the DiamondDrop myself so I am on board with your buddy. That said, personally I actually like the DD better than the RockerConcave. What sort of riding are you going to do? I guess I am sort of the odd ball but I really prefer the DiamondDrop for most styles of riding.

@LongboardTube thanks for providing us with your height and weight, please let us know the type of riding you are looking to do so we can help you choose the right set up for you.

@maliqueg the pintail 37 would be a good board for you. It's small enough to get some aggressive carves in and can still handle some hills. Put the red medium tension springs in the trucks and you'll have more stability.

@GayRalphie You could either get the Apex 40 with rocker if you're more interested in doing freestyle riding and some freeriding. Or, if you are more into freeriding then the Freeride with rocker concave would be a good board for you. It has taller nose and tail kicks than the tan tien, and the rocker will help you while sliding.

Hey, that is around my weight and yes it will. It will be rather stiff and but have some flex when doing freestyle. I am not sure what you mean by "green dot" but we do accept pre-paid visa and master cards, if that helps.

@harryi9223 if you're looking for a board that can do it all then check out either the Apex 37 or the Freeride with rocker concave. Also, we are releasing the Apex 40 on Friday, you may be interested in that board as well.

@LongboardGurus Board will be out in December, looking like some where in the 8th to the 10th area.

@9000lolwut Lot's and lots of changes since the 2011 Apex 37 was introduced. Regardless, if you are interested in the Apex 40 hit up support, send your broken Apex 37 in and we will swap it for a 50% discount. Heck if it is fixable we will fix that deck and send it back to you too. The best thing about these boards is not their durability, it's their fixability. Since we repair Apexes regardless of warranty (if repairs are possible) there is not reason you shouldn't let us give it a shot.

@GAWSlol stable at high speeds and great for cruising, check out the Freeride 41 with rocker concave, or the Apex 40. The Freeride would be best for higher speeds, and the Apex 40 for anything under 30mph

@tgod4real your best bet would be to wait for our cruiser weight flex of the Apex 40 to come out.

That's just so awesome, it hasn't even chipped in my constantly failing varial flips

I just got this board and it is amazing, good for sliding, freestyle and smelling

@gcNINJAify thanks for providing us with your height and weight, but please let us know what type of riding you're looking to do! Also, are you a beginner or do you have experience? The more we know about you the better we'll be able to help you choose a set up.

@MrXGamer97 you can purchase it right now over the phone with us! It should be back up on the website in the next few days

@jevlaretards When I was first starting out I liked having a board that had stability under me, so the pintails are an easier board to learn on. The shorter ones are better for flat land cruising and carving, and the longer ones are a bit stiffer, giving you more stability if you are looking to ride down smaller hills.

@cabe12aggo Hey Caleb! What type of riding are you looking to do?

Nah man, you can totally turn the Drop Freeride. No doubt about that. The Apex is certainly more tuned for carving than the Drop Freeride 41, BUT the drop in the freeride actually helps it in carving if you ask me. I know the traditional theory is that drops make a board carve worse, I just dont feel that way. Particularly top mounted you can get a ton of leverage off the wide platform when you wedge up to the drops. That said, are you doing a lot of freestyle tricks? If so, go APEX.

@SlurryMadA What I'm saying is that flex in relation to a two ton SUV has nothing to do with flex in relation to a 150 pound rider. This isn't showing that the board has too much flex like people are saying. This is actually a pretty stiff board. Because its showing how the board can tough through the most extreme of a situation shows durability.

@AKuohyawsquad Hey! Thanks for providing us with your height and weight. What type of riding are you looking to do?

@jevlaretards Hey! If you're looking for a good cruising board in the city I recommend checking out either the Pintail 37 or 40. They are 7 plys, so they're a bit stiff giving you stability, and they are lower to the ground, making pushing easy. They are also small enough to carve aggressively with when needed.

@CaseyCMF It's flex. Durability is when a stiff board goes under a car and survives with only bent trucks. My Earthwing Belly Racer did that.

@Joegreenfrog I know it is hard to believe but the margins on our carbon boards are already industry worsts. There is a reason no one else is doing it and it has nothing to do with the boards being good or bad. It is currently significantly more profitable to make either bamboo or maple wood boards. I made $15,000 total (full time) over the first four years we ran Original. I loved every minute of it. If you are looking for money hungry you are going to have to look else where.

this exact thing happened to me!!!!! I was longboarding with my friends coming out of a parking lot with my pintail 37 and i fell causing my board to fly back. a car turned into the parking lot and just strait up ran it over from the side. I was just thinking crap my board is broken but when i picked it up and rode on it it was fine!!! ive been riding on it for almost a year now and its in great condition!!! props to original for being so awesome at making longboards!!!!

@Cool4524 check out our pintail series. They come in 4 different sizes depending on your height, weight, and the type of riding you're looking to do. They're great beginner through advanced boards

The hype is mainly from the freestyle freeride community. The speed is pretty specific. Of you aren't killing your boards via tricks or early grabs, or you don't really want trails odds are good there is a better board put there. On the other hand if you are thrashing your decks on freestyle there is no stronger deck out there, which I guess would be the hype?

@hughgene yes! We can take a money order or check. Send our customer support team and email or give them a call and they'll help you out with the process

please release before christmas!!!! its like the only thing on my christmas list!!!

@stsfbh AvRockerConcave would work better for you. If you hedge toward freestyle at all the rocker loosens the board up and is an advantage (at least I think it is). Everyone has their personal preference though. Your best case scenario is to ride both of them (if you can find someone who has them) and then pick based on your own experience. Sans that; Freestyle = AvRC, Freeride = DC.

the necks are reinforced with carbon, so they will not snap during freestyle riding!

Ironically enough, I knew how solid these boards were a long time ago, friend of mine's board got backed over when we were chilling in a parking lot around a year ago, it was a torpedo 40, it bent like that, snapped right back into shape, and was fine, but the trucks made horrid creaking noises after awhile, and eventually he replaced it.

I think there are probably a lot of people you will find on there that don't hate us, but trends are trends. We made boards specific to carving and slower speed tech freeride for a long time, that certainly wasn't the direction of the silverfish community but it was where we wanted to go. If you are trying to DH on a carving deck, you arent going to like it. You also have brand preference and politics. At this point I dont see any reason for hate, particularly with the $99 DH Arbiter etc.

Yes it would... the Apex 37 Double Concave has a carbon fiber strip down the middle of the board just like the 40... Same construction just different dimensions! _Molly

I would agree to some extent. Most Original boards feel like plastic, but some say the Apex is an exception.

@youman09az yes we do! Shipping to Sweden is a flat rate of $60 USD

@willissoverycoollike I personally prefer the stims over durians for sliding, but mainly because they're a little smaller.

Smells good too, huh? We should put that on our website. Haha, glad you like it!

@JohannesSAalholm Give Black Diamond a call, I think they have Apex 40s coming in, I am sure they can help out (who knows maybe it hasn't shipped yet?)

A lot of boards can take this, but the trucks did a really great job!

Glad to hear that cause I just got my Diamond Drop today! Waiting for the shipping!

They are expensive but good quality i absolutley love loaded boards they're great. I did the same thing in this video with my dervish and it was fine aftwards, but personally i like all longboards in general, no one should trash talk about any longboard they're all fun to ride around and bust some sleezy moves. Btw you can order clear grip tape or usually a local board shop carries it, you can also get spray on clear grip, you'll just have to remove the original grip.

@hockeydude673 the Freeride 38 with rocker concave would be a good board for you if you're looking to do some freeriding

Wow Everyone is hating against original! in my opinion they make decent boards, but thats not even what longboarding is about. it's about enjoying the ride and having flow.

I'd check out the Apex 37 DiamondDrop. If you check out some of the new riding in the "Longboarding Oslo Session" video or hit up the youtube / rideralliance channel you can get a sense of the type of stuff the guys are doing these days. Seriously insane combinations of fliptricks, dancing and freeride. Sounds like its right up your alley but check out those videos and see what you think.

To keep people from saying it's fake, you should have showed the truck backing off of the board and had the kid riding the board in the same take! The editing seems funny there! Awesome tough board though!!

@hockeydude673 Hey if you want to slide and for your size, I suggest getting one of our 38" freeride boards.