Apollo's Butcherbird - Fw 190 A-5 

Yup. Completely yeeted into him.

Patience...

The engine model wasnt improved on the P-47. The Thunderbolt will appear again on the channel at some point when I get an entertaining sortie don't. Be that soon since Combat Box goes eastern front again today. The F-4 would perform well against enemies who would try to maneuver against it. Even the Spitfire isn't safe. Everyone else who knows his business will keep speed and distance from the F-4. Most missions on CB do not feature old obsolete aircraft. I personally dont see myself doing that since there are enough similar setups where this disparity is already the case and is historical. For example when fighting Bf 109 F-4s and G-4s in La-5s, Yaks etc. Or the Spitfire 9 against the K-4 and G-14. Fw 190 A-8 vs P-51s. All aircraft are either equally or more maneuverable but significantly slower than the opponent in straight line or climb. The disparity cant be "made up" with maneuverability. This wasn't the case historically and can't be in game. Speed is the main attribute of a fighter aircraft.

@@SheriffsSimShack Thanks for the detailed response. On the P-47 my mistake you are right it's not the engine but flight model that was updated, although this did apparently have a fairly significant impact on speed, acceleration in dives/ energy retention. On the topic of the F-4 "making up for" it's speed disadvantage, of course I'm not saying you can magically catch or run from fights with the lack of engine performance, it's more about the challenge of it, can you as a pilot still do a decent sortie in it against P-51, Spitfires, Tempests etc, despite the disadvantage was more the point. On the F4 at least You still have a high dive speed, and then can hopefully goad people into 1 circle fights. Many pilots in game probably would not recognize the difference between a K4/G6/F4 It may be trivial for you but I doubt many players would tell the difference hundreds of meters away in the air. This was just something I thought would be entertaining to watch, decidedly not competitive, but that's the point.

@@-Zevin-The P-47 is only less stable now. climb, dives, top speed are unaffected. Quite on the contrary the P-47 is now able to blow speed quicker.

​@@SheriffsSimShack People on the forums were reporting the major changes in speed and acceleration in dives etc that I was referring to. However I don't have a ton of experience in the IL2 P-47 so I can't make a good judgment before and after flying it. So maybe people were wrong, do you have experience testing it out after the changes?

@@-Zevin-yes its more "unstable" which gives it a faster instanteneous turn. thats a nice to have, but requires some time to get used to.

Vr

@@SheriffsSimShack How are you getting that zoomed in view? I can't seem to get any zoom to work in IL2 with VR(Quest 2)

@@furbs9999I recommend binding the "VR zoom" functionality...

well its not really a great aircraft for knife fighting. Its a great aircraft for fighting a "war" however.

@@SheriffsSimShack Burns energy like hell,sluggish turning ,worse climb rate and deadly stalling tendency😢 but with a high speed and great firepower

@@bobo1694Dives wonderfully, retains energy in a straight line. High maneuverability at high speeds. Electrically actuated flaps and gear. Great all around visibility. Excellent roll rate at any speed. Damage resistant. Handles wonderfully on the ground. Has much more range, can carry lots of useful stuff.

@@SheriffsSimShackI bet this was why the 190 was such a shock for the Spitfire Mk V…when bounced they probably thought they could derp out of the way of a fast-diving 109 but found out how well the Wurger could still maneuver. Same quality that makes the P-40 more effective than it would appear on paper against Japanese fighters…

Combat Box

Very likely Combat Box due to Apollo being the name of their dynamic campaign system they're currently testing out on Kuban

Was ist denn eine falsche sicht? Ich fliege in VR. Alles was ich sehe ist so groß wie in der realität. Das ganze wirkt auf dem Bildschirm, vor allem wenn ein Objekt etwas weiter entfernt ist, sehr klein. Ich muss auch im Gegensatz zu früher als ich noch in 2D unterwegs war deutlich weniger zoomen.