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Apparently the Jedi are idiots? "The Acolyte" New Trailer Review & Discussion 

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@dankokamcevski
@dankokamcevski Месяц назад
When writers are smart, they create smart villains. When writers aren't smart, they create stupid protagonists.
@dancingvalkyrie
@dancingvalkyrie Месяц назад
True. That explains why we got stipid villains and protagonists in shows like Ahsoka or Bad Batch.
@cael4065
@cael4065 Месяц назад
@@dancingvalkyrieYou literally picked the worst examples possible. Bad Batch had one of the most competent villains in Star Wars shows and the villain literally succeed in Ahsoka. The protagonists are also smart in the Bad Batch(especially after early season 1). And in Ahsoka it’s Sabine that makes dumb decisions not Ahsoka herself
@dancingvalkyrie
@dancingvalkyrie Месяц назад
@@cael4065 Hemlock is an idiot because allowed Omega to escape several times in this season alone. The Bad Batch are idiots because they keep trusting strangers and doing filler side quests 😂
@kh2ouija19
@kh2ouija19 Месяц назад
@@cael4065 Thrawn was an absolute moron in the Ahsoka series. He succeeds but only when the plot needed him to. The ending of Bad Batch is ridiculously stupid considering these morons escape to a city which is known to the Empire just 2 or 3 episodes prior to the finale. I, just like many people out there, once thought that Filoni would be able to salvage something where Star Wars is concerned. Turns out, he’s almost as bad as the rest of the hack writers at LucasFilm.
@elijahlee3610
@elijahlee3610 Месяц назад
​@cael4065 ahsoka literally hops into a purgil and just hopes that it'll lead her to thrawn. That's the definition of stupidity.
@nintendosaber1184
@nintendosaber1184 Месяц назад
Imagine writers that actually care about consistency in canon. How nice that would be.
@ArtooDetour
@ArtooDetour Месяц назад
That’s why the Acolyte is gonna turn out to be… oh, I dunno.. Reva’s grandmother! Lol, why not 😂
@cklambo
@cklambo Месяц назад
Wouldn't that be a sight
@tonep3168
@tonep3168 Месяц назад
Imagine writers that understood the meaning of good and evil…
@teleportedbreadfor3days
@teleportedbreadfor3days Месяц назад
Yeah, imagine…
@faw7858
@faw7858 Месяц назад
Sadly we live in a time where this is idea is unpopular...
@crossfire34
@crossfire34 Месяц назад
I think the most laughable thing in this trailer was the "The studio who brought you" bit. I actually burst into laughter when I read that. Is that supposed to impress us?
@emberfist8347
@emberfist8347 Месяц назад
To me it is best when the trailers mock them like Deadpool’s trailer said “From the studio that sewed his mouth shut the first time.”
@darkphoenix2
@darkphoenix2 Месяц назад
Well, Andor is in there...but 1 out of 3 still isn't great
@nicklibby3784
@nicklibby3784 Месяц назад
​@@darkphoenix2 also ot was pretty telling that they left out their other shows "book of boba fett" and "Obi Wan". They definitely didn't want to remind people this show is from the studio that brought to you "Obi Wan" & "Book of Boba Fett"
@smintili
@smintili Месяц назад
It’s almost the same stupidity as those more recent releases of Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion being advertised as “From the Studio that brought you The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim”. Duh.
@chrisinjapan5736
@chrisinjapan5736 Месяц назад
It's good to know that I wasn't the only one confused by this.
@Eh_D-Man
@Eh_D-Man Месяц назад
I mean sith adopting victim mentality to portray themselves as the secret good guys is kinda the sith thing to do. From their objectively evil point of view the Jedi are evil oppressors. However anyone who actually believes that is either a person with darkness in their hearts themselves or useful idiots. I think the general concept of Sith being subversive is an interesting premise, but I do not have the confidence in the writers to pull off the nuanced idea that just because someone cries victim does not mean they automatically gain the moral high ground. And I don’t think the show runners’ (LH & KK) politics would allow it.
@CrazyxEnigma
@CrazyxEnigma Месяц назад
This could work as long as the people writing actually believe the Sith are in fact the bad guys and that comes through. That's probably not what's going to happen though.
@StickySyrupEverywhere
@StickySyrupEverywhere Месяц назад
We could draw comparisons between fictional useful idiots and irl useful idiots, which seems to include a majority of Hollywood-culture and corporate exec culture.
@mickeybunts
@mickeybunts Месяц назад
The writers can't even handle the Heros journey
@therealruski3906
@therealruski3906 Месяц назад
Good points but still it’s this portrayal or how the bane sith are portrayed in darth Plagueis 🤷‍♂️ no contest
@Crocthunder
@Crocthunder Месяц назад
Tbh the assassin is murdering jedi , just because the jedi ate ignorant or not as altruistic doesn't justify being murdered, no matter what she's wrong for that
@bigdoubleu117
@bigdoubleu117 Месяц назад
The Disney Sequels and Kenobi proved beyond a shadow of a doubt, Disney does not care about canon.
@shadow-squid4872
@shadow-squid4872 Месяц назад
Never once does Vader say in ANH that he hasn’t seen Kenobi since Mustafar 19 years ago. After the Kenobi show it was 9 years and that’s still quite a while
@f0rth3l0v30fchr15t
@f0rth3l0v30fchr15t Месяц назад
@@shadow-squid4872 It's still shite, which is the most important thing.
@kolaranze
@kolaranze Месяц назад
mando, ahsoka, boba shows to
@eliezerrodriguez5863
@eliezerrodriguez5863 Месяц назад
😀😃😄
@bigdoubleu117
@bigdoubleu117 Месяц назад
@@shadow-squid4872 Lol, nice sound bite. That's not even close to what I'm refering to.
@mrcat3493
@mrcat3493 Месяц назад
Disney has screwed up continuity in the Star Wars universe. So whatever they wanna call this acolyte, it doesn’t matter since Disney doesn’t care about the lore.
@achaudhari101
@achaudhari101 Месяц назад
Neither does the fanbase.
@RaikenXion
@RaikenXion Месяц назад
I like to call this show "Acolshite"
@ichigen511
@ichigen511 Месяц назад
Screwing up the continuity in the Star Wars universe started with George Lucas. How old are you? Have you watched the OT? SMH. You think Luke and Leia were written to be incestual lovers? George Lucas has been retconning since Revenge (oops I mean Return) of the Jedi. Oh, you probably are one of those people who think Greedo shot first. UGH, I can't stand Star Wars fans they are all blind children who don't get the toys they want for Christmas.
@darkstalkerknight63
@darkstalkerknight63 Месяц назад
it is funny how over the last 10 years Disney had added more to the star wars universe and lore that fits into it then you are crying about.
@mrcat3493
@mrcat3493 Месяц назад
@@darkstalkerknight63 how is your day going Kathleen? Glad you stopped by to add your thoughts.
@Carcerian
@Carcerian Месяц назад
So WTF is up with the Zipper Mouth Gimp Suit Sith in the Acolyte Trailer? Disney are such weirdos now.
@philippe-cb8wj
@philippe-cb8wj Месяц назад
The women look like guys and the guys look girly. I guess it has something to do with representation. The Force is Gay Now.
@christopherbarringer751
@christopherbarringer751 Месяц назад
It comes from her pervious gig with Weinstine, she saw all, but was butt hurt cause the females liked men, were there for the men, and she couldn't get a piece, as a man I wouldn't want to get a piece of her either.
@teekay1122
@teekay1122 Месяц назад
Lots of people like it actually😂
@jibril2473
@jibril2473 Месяц назад
A small part of me wants to give this series a chance. A greater part of me doesn’t want to have anything to do with it.
@achaudhari101
@achaudhari101 Месяц назад
At least allow yourself to be proven wrong.
@stalefurset9444
@stalefurset9444 Месяц назад
​@@achaudhari101How many times?
@NotoriousTim
@NotoriousTim Месяц назад
@@achaudhari101 my bad feelings have been proven right time and time again. People tell me to watch the animated shows, I end up hating them. People tell me to watch ahsoka, I end up hating it. People tell me to watch book of boba fett, I end up hating it. You see the pattern?
@rvds2040
@rvds2040 Месяц назад
@@NotoriousTim that you dont like stuff ?
@darko-man8549
@darko-man8549 Месяц назад
I said the same with BoBF, Obi Wan, Ahsoka @@achaudhari101
@mk80.
@mk80. Месяц назад
Interesting how the Phantom Menace re-release is doing so well, showing that people will show up to the theatres for good Star Wars
@earthsurgery1237
@earthsurgery1237 Месяц назад
Its in thestres?
@mk80.
@mk80. Месяц назад
@@earthsurgery1237 yes they re-released it last weekend for May 4th, not sure if it’s still on now though
@TempleRevolutionProject
@TempleRevolutionProject Месяц назад
The real question is, what’s with the modern 2024 frat boy broccoli cut the padawan has in the trailer? So weird…
@ian-flanagan
@ian-flanagan Месяц назад
If this was 12 years ago, I'd have been so excited
@chalk1415
@chalk1415 Месяц назад
You could apply that to literally any media. This shit has been sinking since 2015.
@CantankerousDave
@CantankerousDave Месяц назад
It's much worse. The writers are idiots.
@Pelicanzzz
@Pelicanzzz Месяц назад
No character can be smarter than the writers
@RaikenXion
@RaikenXion Месяц назад
I bet you any money that Darkside figure with the Anime-styled mask/helm is Amandla Stenberg's character. I'll guess she hangs back, allowing her "Master" to escape back into the shadows; while she holds off the Jedi. She will typically be all OP (like REY!!!) and take on all those Jedi, including her old Jedi master. He then asks - "What are you" and once she's defeated, he and the other Jedi there eventually find out when they remove the helmet/mask. So this series will end basically where these Jedi learn "The Acolyte" was indeed one of their own but they don't know who it was who corrupted her. "But of which was destroyed? The Master, or the Apprentice?" And from there this whole event is brushed under the rug by the Jedi Council.
@darko-man8549
@darko-man8549 Месяц назад
I hate how right you probably are
@fusionwing4208
@fusionwing4208 Месяц назад
dont mind me, just saving this prediction to notepad to reference later when this probably does happen lmao
@silverprimus321boi9
@silverprimus321boi9 Месяц назад
or imagine it the mask comes off alongside the cape and all, and its actually a teenage plageuis just disguising himself to look more human than he is.
@RaikenXion
@RaikenXion Месяц назад
@@silverprimus321boi9 I forgot to mention that Witch coven plays into this too, because her master vernastra is seen taking her from them in the trailer, or maybe he actually leaves her behind, while taking her friend, the light yellowy skinned alien girl with the white hair and patterns on her face. Basically who Dafne Keen plays, because i remember Leslie Headland did say those two are connected, like sisters but a kind of dyad or something. This is why i think Amandla stenberg's character ends up hating the Jedi for seperating her from her sister where she was trained as a Jedi. And that black woman, matriarch of the group says to stenberg "change the tide" or something, and before when she also said - "this is about power and who get's to use it." This is why stenberg's character becomes that assassin, murdering Jedi, starting with Carrie Ann-Moss's Jedi. I would imagine IF Plageuis is in this, he's definitely the "Big Bad" using the witch coven and Amandla Stenberg's character when she becomes the Acolyte. But i like your idea, a young Plageuis would be consistent timeline-wise.
@dikastederook6380
@dikastederook6380 Месяц назад
Oh fuck, you might have spoiled the entire series there
@originaldarkwater
@originaldarkwater Месяц назад
I'm pretty sure "Star Wars fans" like Headland are as much fans of Star Wars as I am of Twilight. They know it exists, maybe they saw one of the movies once for shits and giggles, but they don't know anything beyond that. Generally, these normies just get various pop culture franchises confused in their head. "Jedi? That's those guys who aren't allowed to have feelings, right? They can read minds, too, right? Vulcan Mind Melt or something? So we'll have one of them read Rey's mind for torture" They don't understand the meme that shows a picture of Gandalf, calls him Dumbledore and has him saying "May the Force be with you" because, for all they know, that's exactly correct, isn't it? Disney-Lucasfilm already thinks the Jedi are meant to represent the dreaded "Patriarchy" and everything they see wrong with it. I'm all but certain Hedlead is confusing the Sith with the LGBT reading of X-Men and thinks the Sith are intended to be a misunderstood stand-in for LGBT people like herself.
@user-kw6rh8xq2f
@user-kw6rh8xq2f Месяц назад
😂😂😂 i hate disney
@cahe6161
@cahe6161 Месяц назад
Exactly
@BobbyFett3994
@BobbyFett3994 Месяц назад
This is what happens when you mix agenda/activism for quality storytelling.
@dezmondphillip8263
@dezmondphillip8263 Месяц назад
My biggest gripe with the Disney canon is that they keep having inconsistencies with their lore and retconning their material doesn’t seem to bother them.
@achaudhari101
@achaudhari101 Месяц назад
Lucas retconned things before Disney came in.
@emberfist8347
@emberfist8347 Месяц назад
@@achaudhari101Except he maintained consistency.
@NotoriousTim
@NotoriousTim Месяц назад
@@emberfist8347 I wouldn't say the prequels and the OT are consistent with eachother. Lucas isn't that great of a writer.
@darko-man8549
@darko-man8549 Месяц назад
But unlike Lucas, Disney actually claimed to be making a consistent canon@@achaudhari101
@emberfist8347
@emberfist8347 Месяц назад
@@NotoriousTim No they were extremely consistent.
@negritotenfold
@negritotenfold Месяц назад
That jedi has those generic unreal engine dreadlocks
@Mouse_Metal
@Mouse_Metal Месяц назад
Unreal engine dreadlocks LOL!
@gs7585
@gs7585 Месяц назад
What’s with the Rick James “Super Freak” hairstyle? Jedis bringing it back?
@negritotenfold
@negritotenfold Месяц назад
Tired of seeing that juice world/kill monger hairstyle. It's ugly
@pufffincrazy5275
@pufffincrazy5275 Месяц назад
That’s why the Jedi collapsed…they cut their locks, where all their midichlorians are to keep up with the trends.
@darko-man8549
@darko-man8549 Месяц назад
Yarael Poof - a Quermian who could like to around 200 Oppo Rancisis - A Thisspiassian - 300 years Zabraks - 150 years so there would have been some members of the council who were definitely old enough to remember this event beyond just Yoda
@muigokublack6487
@muigokublack6487 Месяц назад
As we've established, Disney doesn't care and will change the facts to suit the story.
@pufffincrazy5275
@pufffincrazy5275 Месяц назад
Isn’t plo like 200 something as well?
@darko-man8549
@darko-man8549 Месяц назад
@@pufffincrazy5275 unsure
@kitalalaris
@kitalalaris Месяц назад
@@pufffincrazy5275 Plo Koon is very old, yah. I forget his exact age, but unfortunately Wookipedia isn't likely to help figuring that out anymore. I don't know if Legends canon is left intact, I got frustrated with how difficult to navigate the site has become in general.
@IstandwithIsrael236
@IstandwithIsrael236 Месяц назад
@@pufffincrazy5275 385 i think he also uses yellow sith lighting so it would be possible that he got like converted back and then yoda covered it up (that could actually be a cool plot but definitely not gonna happen)
@rigby_rich3650
@rigby_rich3650 Месяц назад
I’ve commented something similar earlier, but I really think the Jedi will be sort of bait and switched by this new witch coven. I think the ones seeking revenge and trying to tip the scales are actually them with a sith manipulating them. The Jedi will conclude it’s the witches. I’m gonna come back to this comment when I’m inevitably right…
@kenknowlton3085
@kenknowlton3085 Месяц назад
We'll all hold our breath...😂
@ThreadBareHope1234
@ThreadBareHope1234 Месяц назад
I see what you mean. I know we all want every project to fit in with each other but some of them just wont, even aspects of our most beloved series. The lines in the trailer are simply lazy writing, let's call it what it is. They only care about a good hook, and likely forgetting that 100 year time jump isn't enough for everyone in universe to forget something when you have people that live over 900 years.
@rigby_rich3650
@rigby_rich3650 Месяц назад
@@ThreadBareHope1234 are you a bot because your just copy and pasting the same comment over and over😂
@rigby_rich3650
@rigby_rich3650 Месяц назад
@@kenknowlton3085 I mean why else include witches who coincidentally have a vendetta against Jedi, perfect scapegoat
@kenknowlton3085
@kenknowlton3085 Месяц назад
@rigby_rich3650 There's just no way to keep up with what Lucasfilm is thinking. There is no guardian of continuity, canon, and lore. No one in charge cares whether any of this content makes sense. So each of us tries to make sense of it all as best as we can.
@MitraGev
@MitraGev Месяц назад
Prequels Jedi is arrogant jackasses, but they not idiots🤔
@finrodbrs
@finrodbrs Месяц назад
Well, I don't think "jackasses" is the correct word. They weren't TRYING to hurt anybody. They were always trying to do the right thing. They were overly self-assured though.
@user-zl9sh9mz6h
@user-zl9sh9mz6h Месяц назад
Hubris. Lucas wrote the prequel Jedi as victims of hubris.
@vetarlittorf1807
@vetarlittorf1807 Месяц назад
@@finrodbrs Mace Windu was a jerk though.
@MitraGev
@MitraGev Месяц назад
@@vetarlittorf1807 Well in clone wars Mace is less jerk🤔
@vetarlittorf1807
@vetarlittorf1807 Месяц назад
@@MitraGev No. He was an even bigger jerk than in the movies. Like, a Jedi is supposed to show unconditional compassion. But when he confronted Boba Fett, he offered no empathy whatsoever despite knowing Boba's actions were motivated by grief rather than malice. He also refuses to admit any faults he or the Jedi have.
@CallumQuinnCreates
@CallumQuinnCreates Месяц назад
It’s hard to see the future since it’s always in motion, but I have a bad feeling about this.
@ichigen511
@ichigen511 Месяц назад
Well done sir!
@eds1942
@eds1942 Месяц назад
In the Phantom Menace, Yoda knows about the Darth Bane’s Rule of Sith. Yoda: “Two there are, a Master and an Apprentice. No more, no less.” The Legends EU explanation was that about 200 years earlier, a Sith Lord brazenly exposed themself, allowing the Jedi to feel a disturbance in the Force. The Jedi sent out Sentinels to investigate. Most either didn’t come back. And those that didn’t found little to nothing. So the Jedi Council largely ignored it. Two centuries later, Qui-Gon brings up that by the way, I saw a Sith Lord. Mace Windu gives Yode a look like, “is this possible?” And later at Qui-Gon’s funeral, it turns out that Yoda had brought Mace along in secret and spills the beans that he knew that the Sith were still around, because he had been a Jedi Grand Master back when they first revealed themselves.
@mpnuorva
@mpnuorva Месяц назад
And according to Lucas Yoda knows about it because it was an observable pattern of Sithic behavior, no convoluted explanations that make the Jedi look stupid for withholding key information required.
@eds1942
@eds1942 Месяц назад
@@mpnuorva And according to Lucas, it used to be that the Sith numbered in the hundreds and ruled the greater part of the galaxy, but could never defeat the Jedi nor the Republic, because as a Sith named Bane observed that the nature of evil was that absent an enemy, each Sith would inevitably strive against the others for dominance, defeating themselves, and so he finished them off, went into hiding and created the Rule of Two about a thousand years earlier. Bane was the one to come up with the Rule and he wasn’t the first Sith. And it wasn’t really stupidity, but more about practically. The Jedi that they sent out usually found nothing. Only a few were met with mysterious ends. The Jedi aren’t genocidal. If the weren’t a big issue, and since it was only a few of the Jedi that they sent out to find them and ran into them that ended up dead, than it wasn’t really worth much of a fuss. In essence, they were loosing people because they had them looking in caves for bears that weren’t posing much of a threat. They had became the problem, to continue that campaign was fool hardy. And since the Jedi practices already covers being vigilant against the Darkside,.. Eventually, only a few would remember the scare. Bringing each new generation of Jedi Councilers into the fold, just risked a repeat. They needed confirmation not only that the Sith were still around, but they were active in the larger galaxy again. Stupidity, was taking part in the political Clone Wars as generals leading legions of Clone Troopers who’s creation was signed by a Jedi Master who died or disappeared under mysterious circumstances, and co-signed by a Sith Lord, an army based on genetic templet of the man who trained them whom his own government labeled as an outlaw and who was the main suspect in a conspiracy to assassinate and member of the Republic’s Senate while they were investigate. Stupidity was the Clone Wars show where the writers decided that Yoda had a vision of Order 66 and chose to do nothing about it. Stupidity was to placing their role of keeping the balance on one persons shoulders, who they might be training, and then brush off must of his issues. The Jedi did a lot of stupid things. Hunting down lone Sith that weren’t presenting much of an issue wasn’t.
@JeffSense
@JeffSense Месяц назад
It's over Thor. You knew it. The Jedi are being redefined
@SymbioteMullet
@SymbioteMullet Месяц назад
They will become ... The Deji!!!!!!
@rigby_rich3650
@rigby_rich3650 Месяц назад
It’s a mystery thriller so I’m sure most of the thought went in to how they don’t know the sith are still around. My guess something with the witches influences things, we see them cast a sort of spell on a Jedi, that’s gotta be important.
@ThreadBareHope1234
@ThreadBareHope1234 Месяц назад
Thats a good theory. I know we all want every project to fit in with each other but some of them just wont, even aspects of our most beloved series. The lines in the trailer are simply lazy writing, let's call it what it is. They only care about a good hook, and likely forgetting that 100 year time jump isn't enough for everyone in universe to forget something when you have people that live over 900 years.
@christopherm.1258
@christopherm.1258 Месяц назад
@@ThreadBareHope1234 Dude, you don`t know the context of all this lines and don`t know the events of the show. -_- Don`t call something clearly bad writing, when you haven`t watched it.
@ThreadBareHope1234
@ThreadBareHope1234 Месяц назад
@christopherm.1258 Nothing I said was meant to be dickish. Sorry if it sounded that way. I'm jusy being real.
@rigby_rich3650
@rigby_rich3650 Месяц назад
@@ThreadBareHope1234 why do you keep copy and pasting the same thing?
@ArtooDetour
@ArtooDetour Месяц назад
I saw the trailer. Lots of knives…I guess since Disney light-sabers are no longer lethal weapons.
@darkstalkerknight63
@darkstalkerknight63 Месяц назад
lightsabers were never a lethal weapon unless hitting a important part like the heart.
@rvds2040
@rvds2040 Месяц назад
remember when luke and anakin died when their hands got cut off ?
@darkstalkerknight63
@darkstalkerknight63 Месяц назад
@@rvds2040 remember when people got hit by blasters in the arms or legs and died. Oh wait....
@rvds2040
@rvds2040 Месяц назад
@@darkstalkerknight63 remember when anakin got burned by lava lost his legs his other arm and died, its star wars, people die when the writers say they die.
@darkstalkerknight63
@darkstalkerknight63 Месяц назад
@@rvds2040 the heat from lava if another to cook a person but if you touch it, you are going to be passed cooked. remember when anakin died while having surgery to become Darth Vader because that amount of stuff being stab into you while you are in that much pain would have kill him from the shock.... oh wait. remember when princess leia in space and died due to the lack of air and gravity which would made her body expand and... get this... blow up.... oh wait.
@veeclash4157
@veeclash4157 Месяц назад
You see it doesn't matter to Leslye Headland if the Jedi are idiots because "the Patriarchy" is the real bad guy in her story. Her Sith or Dark Jedi character is actually a sympathetic figure because she's just a misunderstood lesbian with force powers no matter how many people she kills!
@ian-flanagan
@ian-flanagan Месяц назад
Maybe. Don't know yet
@robertdickson9319
@robertdickson9319 Месяц назад
That's a pretty descriptive synopsis of the story - I take it you've seen the entire series already?
@rvds2040
@rvds2040 Месяц назад
@@robertdickson9319 how is that descriptive, show's not out yet
@robertdickson9319
@robertdickson9319 Месяц назад
@@rvds2040 Exactly!
@Gatsby101
@Gatsby101 Месяц назад
Even if he hasn't, it's a safe bet.
@PastorAndrew
@PastorAndrew Месяц назад
I took the “not be kind to the Jedi” line as “they are going to be somewhat brutally killed.” Kind of like how Revenge of the Sith was not kind to the Jedi or how Infinity War was not kind to Iron Man.
@GreaterGrievobeast55
@GreaterGrievobeast55 Месяц назад
I guess defacement is worse than death
@fercuscuelalopez9454
@fercuscuelalopez9454 Месяц назад
I took it as “Jedi are patriarcal kidnappers and they have a monopoly on the force” but I hope you’re right!
@mpnuorva
@mpnuorva Месяц назад
IIRC the showrunner said they'd be the villains of the show even before that.
@Gatsby101
@Gatsby101 Месяц назад
Not sure how you landed there after what she's said publicly.
@MagicPrepper
@MagicPrepper Месяц назад
I think it's more that the showrunners think their audience consists of mostly idiots. They write from a position of perceived superior intellect and feel the need to dumb-down their productions for general consumption.
@LordHollow
@LordHollow Месяц назад
Its really sad: at some point Yoda is going to show up and I fear they'll assassinate his character.
@rvds2040
@rvds2040 Месяц назад
how though, they cant because of the prequels and the ot
@LordHollow
@LordHollow Месяц назад
@@rvds2040 I don't think they'll care about any of that. He was alive during that time, right? They will undoubtedly use him.
@markboomgaarden4679
@markboomgaarden4679 Месяц назад
He’ll get a lightsaber to the gut, but a Bacta tank later he’ll be good to go for the next episode
@LordHollow
@LordHollow Месяц назад
@@markboomgaarden4679 With the way they write, it'll be revealed he started speaking backward as a result of the aforementioned lightsaber stab...
@Gatsby101
@Gatsby101 Месяц назад
If this thing plays out the way we think it will, Yoda will look so foolish in the prequels. They continue to step all over these great characters for terrible Disney + content.
@genx7006
@genx7006 Месяц назад
I have a bit of a clarification. You mentioned something about it "all being about lightsabers", something to that effect. And that sort of thing plays to the lowest common denominator SW fan. Well, as a simple kid back in the late 70s, I did enjoy the lightsabers. But I was more a Han Solo fan, so I liked blasters a bit more. I loved the "pew pew" aspect of it all. So, the clarification is...lightsabers and blasters are all that is really necessary to satisfy the basic fan. I stick by that.😊
@StickySyrupEverywhere
@StickySyrupEverywhere Месяц назад
How dare you! We must pretend that firearms do not exist! (But yeah)
@Lord-Emperor-Vader
@Lord-Emperor-Vader Месяц назад
I just left the Phantom Menace and was surprised when they had a scene from the Matrix after the credits.
@markboomgaarden4679
@markboomgaarden4679 Месяц назад
Same thought here. Just saw ep 1, followed by the matrix. Talk about 1999 all over again….
@user-pk3zw7mb8w
@user-pk3zw7mb8w Месяц назад
Everything about the Acolyte looks lackluster
@JaylaSecura
@JaylaSecura Месяц назад
IDK… the aliens, combat choreography, locations & outfits all look pretty cool looking.
@artair70
@artair70 Месяц назад
@@JaylaSecura NO
@marcellfejes5124
@marcellfejes5124 Месяц назад
I genuinly laughed out loud when I saw the "the studio that brought you" stuff. Especially with Ahsoka being there, that was the cherry on top. Oh boy, Star Wars has fallen so far.
@bigdoubleu117
@bigdoubleu117 Месяц назад
For the line about the Jedi being oppressive rulers, unfortunately Disney already did make that canon. The Clone Wars season 7 with the sisters nobody cares about, would say how the Jedi oppress and rule everyone from above, etc. So this show will likely extend that idea.
@rvds2040
@rvds2040 Месяц назад
my dude, the jedi were in charge of the republic war effort, in their eyes all they did was wage war and not help the average person of coruscant and beyond
@darko-man8549
@darko-man8549 Месяц назад
but that made sense for that point in time, this does not
@emberfist8347
@emberfist8347 Месяц назад
@@rvds2040Except they weren’t in charge. That was Supreme Chancellor Palpatine the Commander in Chief.
@emberfist8347
@emberfist8347 Месяц назад
@@darko-man8549It didn’t make sense as the excuse they had ignored the fact the Jedi were forced to pick the least bad option in a real life case of the trolley problem, and that the situation mentioned shouldn’t have happened as it is implied to have happened after the events of Hostage Crisis which ended clearly with Cad Bane’s escape going off without a hitch and no implication of a further pursuit.
@rvds2040
@rvds2040 Месяц назад
@@emberfist8347 the point is though the jedi were fighting a war that most people probably didnt care about
@ryanbullara5433
@ryanbullara5433 Месяц назад
I hate to say it but this show doesn’t look good at all to me. Besides the check the box casting it still looks like a fan film
@achaudhari101
@achaudhari101 Месяц назад
How would it look like a fan film? I wasn’t aware there had to be a right way for it to look good.
@GreaseBIizzard
@GreaseBIizzard Месяц назад
It can't be a fan film, fan film implies that the creators are Star Wars fans and I don't believe for a second Harvey's assistant is a Star Wars fan
@achaudhari101
@achaudhari101 Месяц назад
@@GreaseBIizzard Except she is one. She said her favorite was Phantom Menace. You wished she said Last Jedi didn't you just so you can grill her on the spot, but she didn't.
@GreaseBIizzard
@GreaseBIizzard Месяц назад
@@achaudhari101 Uh huh. Sure. Whatever you say chief.
@michigan53105
@michigan53105 Месяц назад
Let’s just watch it and find out
@JoRoq1
@JoRoq1 Месяц назад
Giving a little benefit of the doubt, as most of the alien species have lifespans approximately on par with humans, forgetting or misinterpreting the events of 100 years in the past is plausible. Just look at the real world arguments and debates we have today over things from just 50 years ago, let alone 100. That said, that alone is too simplistic an approach to take here, particularly in view of established characters like Yoda for whom it is well within relatively recent living memory. They need to build a good foundation for the story they want to tell here. Sadly, I’m not optimistic that the production team has the skill or desire to take the necessary nuanced approach.
@emberfist8347
@emberfist8347 Месяц назад
Except most humans can live up to 100 years and older in this universe due to improved medical technology.
@darko-man8549
@darko-man8549 Месяц назад
Yarael Poof - a Quermian who could like to around 200 Oppo Rancisis - A Thisspiassian - 300 years Zabraks - 150 years so there would have been some members of the council who were definitely old enough to remember this event beyond just Yoda
@nicklibby3784
@nicklibby3784 Месяц назад
Yeah, but you also have to remeber, according to legends fron this era, and even canon. The current sith are a Mune (Plagueis) and a Bith (Tenebrous). Both of which can kive for well over 100+ years, up to 200 maybe even 300s idk. All I know is they can live for multiple centuries.
@RyeBreadGangster
@RyeBreadGangster Месяц назад
Baris' story was a huge letdown.
@achaudhari101
@achaudhari101 Месяц назад
Not entirely.
@crossfire34
@crossfire34 Месяц назад
Dave Filoni has let people down. Shocking...
@rector0455
@rector0455 Месяц назад
Sometimes the mystery is preferable to a substandard explanation. Often times. Hell all times, actually.
@achaudhari101
@achaudhari101 Месяц назад
Did everyone get amnesia to pretend Bad Batch didn’t just end a couple days ago?
@rector0455
@rector0455 Месяц назад
@@achaudhari101 I assume I'm not alone in saying the entire premise of Felony's Bitter Batch (Superpowered clones) just never did anything but repel me, and I never watched any of it since reviews were at best mixed. Did you get an explanation for how a 'clone' of Jango Fett was female or see the Clone rebellion against the fledgling Empire?
@thatguy601
@thatguy601 Месяц назад
The sith looks like he's in a GIMP Mask. seriosly!
@rector0455
@rector0455 Месяц назад
Just be happy he's not in a leather puppy BDSM mask... Yet.
@ArtooDetour
@ArtooDetour Месяц назад
I have that exact mask.. and I ain’t no Sith! 😂
@CrazyxEnigma
@CrazyxEnigma Месяц назад
Henceforth you shall be known as Darth... Scorpius.
@GreaterGrievobeast55
@GreaterGrievobeast55 Месяц назад
Well now that you mention it...
@f0rth3l0v30fchr15t
@f0rth3l0v30fchr15t Месяц назад
@@ArtooDetourBut are you a gimp?
@betterlatethannever4529
@betterlatethannever4529 Месяц назад
The director’s previous employment is not a part of why I’m not going to watch the show…it’s her fundamental lack of understanding when it comes to Star Wars.
@teleportedbreadfor3days
@teleportedbreadfor3days Месяц назад
I’ll never understand this hatred some people have for a genuine force of good. Some shame them for being ‘morally superior’, whatever the hell that’s supposed to even mean, while some find it totally unrealistic and think it’s a good idea to turn a faction like Starfleet and the Federation from Star Trek or the Jedi Order, in this case, into a woefully corrupt or dark grey force, the same people who mix realism with pessimism. I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again, past writers were never ‘nice’ to the Jedi; They’re just not the arrogant hypocritical child-napping evil a number of Jedi critics claim they are. It is possible to be genuinely good even at the height of power and in our real world the Acolyte claims will reflect, and the Jedi are so massively far from an exception, because of what bigger but reachable thing they’re meant to represent. You want this to be about who deserves power? Fine, but the Jedi and Sith don’t seem to be the ones on trial. This is everything the Jedi aren’t. They’re not fools and they’re not marauders neither. Their High Republic Era is sounding less like a golden age and more like a dark age, between the Sith impossibly taking action and this corruption among the Jedi that isn’t supposed to be.
@YegRon
@YegRon Месяц назад
It’s part of the dominant ideology. The Jedi have power and the Sith (or generic dark side users) did not, and therefore, through their lens of intersectional power dynamics, the Jedi are the bad guys.
@teleportedbreadfor3days
@teleportedbreadfor3days Месяц назад
@@YegRon But the Jedi do not dominate. That’s a horribly incorrect assessment Darth Sidious would absolutely throw at the wall and see if it sticks. Since when has helping those in need like it’s natural, protecting the innocent from wrongdoers, showing others more peaceful alternative choices and aiming to bring peace and justice through diplomacy, redemption and inspiration been tyrannical? Their ‘philosophy’ is literally peace and justice through the guidance of the Force. Their ‘power’ has always come from the respect they *earned* from the people for over a thousand generation. I don’t remember any dictators, cult leaders and monsters ever being known for their selflessness. The issue here lies in the fact that things seemingly will really be as described in the Acolyte’s plot: The Jedi are evil because they can’t be good and the Sith will be more sympathetic because consumers eat up grey villains.
@YegRon
@YegRon Месяц назад
@@teleportedbreadfor3days No, I’m saying it’s the dominant ideology in Hollywood that they’re projecting on to the Jedi order. Sorry, I should have been clearer.
@ces59
@ces59 Месяц назад
I'm always conflicted on this, because on one hand there is no such thing as a pure "force for good." The world is complicated, and we've moved past the "golly-gee" Christian optimism of the 50s etc. From a narrative standpoint, pure good vs pure evil is also pretty uninteresting. All that being said, there are good and bad ways to do this. Andor does it well because its shows the difficulty of "using the tools of my enemy to defeat them" while still having hope and "good guys" in the narrative. Star Wars is really struggling with this otherwise.
@RaikenXion
@RaikenXion Месяц назад
This all really kind of points toward a bigger thing regards these writers today. They all want to "Deconstruct" things, especially classic things. It's about them "Normalizing" what is simply NOT NORMAL.
@brucethelen9977
@brucethelen9977 Месяц назад
Unfortunately I can only feel dread when it comes to anything Disney Star Wars anymore. Mando season 1 gave me some hope just to have it all crushed by none other than Bo Katan. Why did Mando just give her the darksaber? Have we not learned our lesson Bo Katan? Didn’t you almost destroy mandalore entirely because of that? God forbid Star Wars do anything that is from a completely different era than what we’ve already seen on screen. Could we possibly dive into the tens of thousands of years of history that’s already got cool ideas from novels,novellas, comics, etc? nope! Could we possibly do anything that isn’t death stars, world killing lasers, darth Vader wannabes, or the same old Jedi council? Nope! Could we just like not destroy nostalgically loved characters like Obi-Wan Kenobi ? NOPE! I’m sorry for the young people who have to grow up on this. The prequels were by no means perfect, however they were leaps and bounds beyond anything Disney Star Wars has to offer. Sometimes I truthfully believe there’s no saving it. I hate to be a doomsday guy. But Disney has crushed the only hope I had in it. ✌🏻
@Livelongwforce
@Livelongwforce Месяц назад
A good summary on why so many fans are not excited about this show
@achaudhari101
@achaudhari101 Месяц назад
A summary that means nothing until the show releases and we can judge for ourselves.
@javierlopez9789
@javierlopez9789 Месяц назад
​@@achaudhari101you are probably going to say the same shit after next 3 or 4 shitty ass shows.
@istari0
@istari0 Месяц назад
After watching that I have one question. When's Andor S2 coming out?
@vsf_dave811
@vsf_dave811 Месяц назад
I mean… yeah? That was kinda the message that the Prequels put out anyway. The council didn’t believe Qui-Gon, a Jedi master, when he explicitly told them that the Sith had returned and saw one with his own eyes. Palpatine sat amongst them undetected for years while his plan unfolded right under their noses. Are we shocked that the Jedi are getting something pulled over on them, or unaware of danger right in front of them?
@zs5777
@zs5777 Месяц назад
Leslye also doesn`t remember what Harvey`s doing.
@DarthEjsmont
@DarthEjsmont Месяц назад
I'm just tired Disney tries to promote the Sequels and neglect Prequels. The effect is they're just losing a huge group of fans, and what should interest them, a lot of money.
@shadow-squid4872
@shadow-squid4872 Месяц назад
We’ve had that much content surrounding the prequel era and the initial aftermath (Order 66 scenes in Obi-wan and Mando) like Bad Batch, and Tales of the Jedi & Empire. The only real piece of sequel era content we’ve ever gotten after that trilogy was Resistance
@muigokublack6487
@muigokublack6487 Месяц назад
I'm not one to defend Disney but on this you are just wrong. We've had ALOT of content covering the prequel era. Mostly relating to the 19 years between Revenge Of The Sith and A New Hope. If you mean the time directly before The Phantom Menace or the 10 years between that movie and Attack Of The Clones then maybe.
@DarthEjsmont
@DarthEjsmont Месяц назад
@@muigokublack6487 I was thinking more about the Marketing they did over the past years, toys newly released etc. They're already slowing down with ST, focusing mostly on OG, but I hope they can focus more on PT. We had a lot of shows, true, also thanks to Filoni. But there were also interviews when SW creators were distancing themselves from PT, or their belief that the modern shows are fixing PT. Maybe you are right, but my feeling was different in the past few years.
@t.t1770
@t.t1770 Месяц назад
But can't this problem be solved easily? The Sith just have to blame a dark Jedi. Sometimes Jedi fall, blaming them for a series of murders when the Sith actually murdered them shouldn't be that difficult. Wasn't it already in legends that the Sith used fallen Jedi as cover? That's why I think it's a bit silly to say that all Darksiders are seen as Sith, a Jedi can become very powerful very quickly if he gives himself up. A Sith is someone with deeper insight into the dark side of the Force through centuries of knowledge and of course a red lightsaber. A dark Jedi is unlikely to have either but should still pose a credible threat. The true Sith can then hide behind this, I highly doubt that the Jedi see fallen Jedi as Sith, otherwise they would have to admit that there will always be Sith as long as there are Jedi.
@Gatsby101
@Gatsby101 Месяц назад
As much as I love legends, you're argument died with it.
@Gatsby101
@Gatsby101 Месяц назад
Gui-gon immediately classified Maul as a Sith.
@t.t1770
@t.t1770 Месяц назад
@@Gatsby101 This can be explained by the fact that Maul uses a red lightsaber and Form 7. Both not Jedi standard. Form 7 normally requires the dark side and is only known to a handful of Jedi who can use it "safely" (Mace's group). But the most important thing is the red lightsaber, it's not just a color choice you have to "corrupt" the crystal to get red, it's not exactly a technique a Jedi would be familiar with. At the end of the day, it is one person's assessment that Maul is a Sith, probably because he is so alien to Qui-Gon that he doesn't even think of him as a fallen Jedi. But when you arrive on a planet where 10 Jedi have died at the hands of a lightsaber and all you find is a Jedi Knight who has fallen to the dark side and needs to be killed, then you don't think of a Sith conspiracy. Not that it will be that in the end, I don't know what the writers are planning, but that would fit with the attitude of the Jedi at the time. I have no hope that this series will be good. All I'm saying is, the time isn't necessarily an issue if you have a plan to explain it.
@Gatsby101
@Gatsby101 Месяц назад
@@t.t1770 but this unknown figure where’s black like Maul and wields a red lightsaber as well.
@t.t1770
@t.t1770 Месяц назад
@@Gatsby101 Ah I see, I really don't want to defend the series but you could explain it like this: everyone who sees him dies and the next group that searches only finds corpses and a fallen dark side Jedi who serves as a scapegoat and gets killed after giving the new search party a hard fight. The more I think about it the less likely it is that they'll solve it so neatly, but my point was just that it would be possible to do a series in this timeperiod and leave the lore intact.
@darthrage8673
@darthrage8673 Месяц назад
Hey Thor, in the spirit of The Phantom Menace 25th anniversary, do you think the movie still holds up, cgi wise. I rewatched in theaters and there were some scenes were the cgi looks fake, and some scenes aged well. To add on do you prefer cgi or practical effects?
@katherynet1424
@katherynet1424 Месяц назад
Ki Adi said "The sith haven't been seen in a millenia". Just seen the Phantom Menace at the Cinema for the 25th Anniversary! Very curious what this darksider is if its not actually a Sith because anyone seeing a Red light saber is gonna think = SITH.
@jacobdavis3876
@jacobdavis3876 Месяц назад
Leslye Headland was the Harley Quinn to Harvey Weinstein's Joker for many years. The lack of accountability and consequences for those who were complicit in the crimes of even the most infamous #MeToo villains couldn't be made more obvious. She was his personal assistant for ages. Cleaning off those casting couches, yet she's totally innocent for being his "queer" sidekick? F**k that and anyone naive enough to make excuses for that kind of shit.
@LedPESRule
@LedPESRule Месяц назад
Stop! Stop! He's Already Dead!
@achaudhari101
@achaudhari101 Месяц назад
No fool.
@SirDenzington89
@SirDenzington89 Месяц назад
Just remember, it’s for times like this, that RU-vid removed the dislike button. The people involved probably think they’re making schindlers list or inception or something. I imagine arms being pulled out of joints with the amount of back patting going on making this show. Not to get political but if you worked for the 45th president of our country, you’d never get a job in many industries. If you facilitated the behavior of a real life movie villain, than used the experience to virtue signal off of, you get a Star Wars show all for yourself.
@DanBeau
@DanBeau Месяц назад
i'd say the thing that shook me a little was when Carrie Anne Moss' character blocks METAL KNIVES with her lightsaber. i mean it kinda looks cool... but do they know what slugthrowers are and what they were made for? blocking a high speed metal object with a lightsaber would just cause it to burst into molten shrapnel towards the lightsaber wielder.
@cidmontenegro8225
@cidmontenegro8225 Месяц назад
had that same thought.
@blackshogun272
@blackshogun272 Месяц назад
Ancient Mandos in Legends caught a lot of bodies with them shits back in the day. And to the average Jedi Knight getting hunted by a pro assassin/bounty hunter, they gonna be on a holographic T-shirt in no time if they've never learned instantaneous telekinesis or mastered Form 3 deflection to its peak
@faw7858
@faw7858 Месяц назад
The background and past of Lesley headland is in general unimportant. What is important are her skills as a director plus her skills in working within a big company like Disney and with a vast franchise like star wars. She got none of those skills....plus everything she said about star wars from the beginning made it totally clear fir me that this person will hurt star wars. Why isn't there anyone at Disney/Lucas films who oversees this ?!?! Mind boggling
@StickySyrupEverywhere
@StickySyrupEverywhere Месяц назад
That's because a filmmaker's or show runner's background and past determine their abilities and qualifications.
@charger9105
@charger9105 Месяц назад
Nice to see I wasn't the only one to notice the omission of Book of Boba Fett and Obi-Wan from that pointless opening part to this trailer. All that does is antagonize the audience. Another easily avoidable self-error on Disney's part.
@GreaterGrievobeast55
@GreaterGrievobeast55 Месяц назад
4:06 devils advocate, an unaligned darksider might have completely different goals and resources than a sith might even if they have comparable power in the force. Something as debase as being a jedi serial killer, or a crime lord rather than total domination of the Galaxy. As for Qui gons case, I guess he doesn't make not of it, But Darth mauls face is literally *covered* in Sith tattoos. I'm sure those might've been recognizable. 7:26 wait weren't Dooku and sifo dyas also super suspicious about the sith still being around?
@JGr2000
@JGr2000 Месяц назад
I wish I could get excited for live action Star Wars shows, but I just can’t anymore. Andor season 2 is the only show I’m looking forward to
@soutarm
@soutarm Месяц назад
This is a show by the people who shouted "defund the police"
@mrblank-zh1xy
@mrblank-zh1xy Месяц назад
And then howled for the police to round up J6 protestors.
@Exodus-sb8so
@Exodus-sb8so Месяц назад
Headly looks like the emperor's niece
@ElQkes
@ElQkes Месяц назад
She'd dress better if she were related to Palpatine.
@MildandLazyGuy
@MildandLazyGuy Месяц назад
Millennia / century - I'm always mixing those up...
@skywalkersbutido6375
@skywalkersbutido6375 Месяц назад
I liked this trailer a whole deal more in comparison to the 1st. Loving the antagonist’s helmet,not sure if that was a sith though i don’t want to jump into conclusions the delivery of some of the lines is certainly lacking “WHAT ARE YOU” -Not a sith:”IM LIKE POETRY I RHYME”.
@siiir1322
@siiir1322 Месяц назад
Just let the guys from the animation team write the new live action shows. I’m so numb at this point and I am done being called a loud minority, a hater or racist/sexist for calling out bad writing. As if the Jedi order games would be any better or worse if Cal was a woman lmao. The siege of Mandalore was a straight up Masterpiece, while the ahsoka show was average at best. Both of them starring the same protagonist.
@rector0455
@rector0455 Месяц назад
They did that already, and you got Ahsoka...
@gavinsmith9871
@gavinsmith9871 Месяц назад
"Just let the guys from the animation team write the new live action shows." They did that and you guys hated it.
@NotoriousTim
@NotoriousTim Месяц назад
The animation team writers suck as well. like most of those shows are 90% garbage with like 10% actual decent moments. I cannot for the life of me see why people think the animated shows are this end all be all of star wars. They're really not. But maybe I'm just a bitter Original Trilogy purist.
@PapaAwiz
@PapaAwiz Месяц назад
For what it's worth, I do genuinely appreciate this channel trying it's absolute best to remain open minded at all times while still being realistic about room temperatures. Me personally I don't think this show will be anything solid. But the tone & premise on it's own do seem cool to me. Almost Watchmen like but SW instead. I'm under no delusion that this will be good but I'd be more than open to them at the very least coming up with 1 cool fight sequence on it's own if possible.
@gabbogames9713
@gabbogames9713 Месяц назад
Well, to be honest, Jedi council had a Sith Lord in the same city they were, and they never realized...
@dereklopez9060
@dereklopez9060 Месяц назад
"Last night, A Jedi was murdered." KK: IKR? "No one is safe from the truth." Worst tag line ever.
@emberfist8347
@emberfist8347 Месяц назад
Better than see the movie.
@NisGaarde
@NisGaarde Месяц назад
Who knew that Jedi had time for hours in hair and make-up every day?
@NZealand
@NZealand Месяц назад
Umm… Mace Windu?
@oXRaptorzXo
@oXRaptorzXo Месяц назад
That’s your complaint?
@ian-flanagan
@ian-flanagan Месяц назад
​@@oXRaptorzXo Sounds trivial but it's a serious point. It was Lucas' expression of 'realism' that the Queen of Naboo had intricate hair/makeup, and normal people didn't. Now average people have it. Creators all have different visions/values/emphasises and none are objectively better/worse, but I strongly prefer consistency within the same franchise. When people say "it doesn't feel like Star Wars" but can't put their finger on good reasons why, this is one.
@colebuckon3856
@colebuckon3856 Месяц назад
I watched the trailer twice before Disliking it, because I wanted to be sure of what I was seeing. I can already tell that this will be inferior to Legacy of the Force. Jacen Solo’s descent into Darth Caedus didn’t rely on tearing the Jedi down - it lifted up the Sith by exploring their philosophy as a necessary evil to restore peace. At worst, it implied that the Jedi’s principles kept them from taking things far enough to get the job done, demonstrated the point by having Javen’s authoritarian measures get some positive results, and finally balanced that by showing the effects that moral compromises and Dark Side corruption had on Jacen over time. Here, that line about the Jedi’s peace being a lie is clearly a thesis statement to tear the Jedi down, and nothing is uplifted to replace them. That line about destiny, in this context, is just, “Burn the system down, and then you can do whatever you want.” That’s on-brand for Disney Star Wars. If they could build something, give us something positive to replace their so-called failure of the Jedi, they would put it in the trailer, but they can’t create. They can only destroy or cannibalize.
@jasonreynolds6643
@jasonreynolds6643 Месяц назад
The Apathyte…. Because that is the feeling it creates
@Evergreenoutsider10
@Evergreenoutsider10 Месяц назад
The line that made me OFFICIALLY go “this is gonna suck so bad” Was the line from the woman that was like “your destiny is not decided by some faceless force” (or something like that I don’t care) And I was just like. “That’s literally what the Force is. It’s in the name. The Force and those who wield it are destined.” So yeah the writers are framing the good guys as incompetent idiots for having faith in something bigger than themselves. Look good guys and the good things having complicated outcomes? I’m down. But this? This is just stupid.
@blackshogun272
@blackshogun272 Месяц назад
Whoever's saying that line sounds oddly similar to something a bitter and jaded Kreia from Kotor 2 would also say.
@heartshinemusic
@heartshinemusic Месяц назад
I didn't even bother to watch the trailer. I'll watch new Star Wars when everybody on You Tube that was critical before miraculously gives raving reviews. Only thing I'll definitely watch is Andor season two. Besides that, I'm sadly done...
@Arcodus
@Arcodus Месяц назад
I have not seen Disney Star Wars since The Last Jedi and I don't think this will change anytime soon.
@mh-472
@mh-472 Месяц назад
This is just more to reinforce my decision to sit out Disney Star Wars until whenever Andor is back.
@azairman
@azairman Месяц назад
I honestly don't care about the show runner or anything else. All I care about is what they are saying that the show is going to be. Everything they have used to describe the show makes it sound terrible so I won't be watching it.
@achaudhari101
@achaudhari101 Месяц назад
Assumptions aren’t factual.
@azairman
@azairman Месяц назад
@@achaudhari101 I'm not assuming anything. I'm basing my decision on how they are describing it. The descriptions sound bad to me.
@achaudhari101
@achaudhari101 Месяц назад
@@azairman Sometimes words make things confusing then how it plays out in motion.
@azairman
@azairman Месяц назад
@achaudhari101 Well that is their fault. In their marketing they have to make it sound good to make people want to watch it. However every time they describe it, it sounds awful to me so I'm not interested.
@igodreamer7096
@igodreamer7096 Месяц назад
Bad fan-fiction. That is all you can extract from the big brains in Disney / Lucasfilm. Shameful!
@eliezerrodriguez5863
@eliezerrodriguez5863 Месяц назад
Where do you get these stats ????
@zbk1129
@zbk1129 Месяц назад
I really dont think them brining in sith breaks the canon line of “we haven’t seen sith in a millennia” how I view it is when maul died he was fully trying to interfere with the Jedi and the political side of things cause he pulled up on them when padmae was trynna take back Naboo. I think we haven’t seen sith in that long trying to really shake everything up. The sith we see here are beefing with the Jedi and will be taking out but will they dive deep and start messing things up on a global scale I doubt it. That’s how I take it.
@JohnnyLodge2
@JohnnyLodge2 Месяц назад
Theyre going to make the sith queer coded. Probably minority coded as well.
@zerg6001
@zerg6001 Месяц назад
Mandalorian: I’m gonna give it a fair chance Kenobi: I’m gonna give it a fair chance Andor: I’m gonna give it a fair chance Ashoka: I’m gonna give it a fair chance Boba fett: I’m gonna give it a fair chance When are we going to admit everything Disney starwars sucks and move on?
@rvds2040
@rvds2040 Месяц назад
well most people seem to like the mandalorian and andor the most out of those 5, and dont pretend like boba was ever an interesting character with like 5 lines in the ot
@markboomgaarden4679
@markboomgaarden4679 Месяц назад
Mando season 1 and Andor were good
@ElQkes
@ElQkes Месяц назад
To be fair, Mandalorian was great the first two seasons, and apparently people like Andor (I watched like five episodes and couldn't have been less entertained). The only faith I have with Disney Star Wars lies in the animated side of things (although Tales of The Empire was certainly disappointing, it wasn't Kenobi-level terrible, it was more so Ahsoka-level mediocre). But yeah, overall, live action Star Wars is certainly something I won't be giving a chance to in a while.
@jeffreyroedel9804
@jeffreyroedel9804 Месяц назад
Looks basically like a Knight of Ren.
@darkphoenix2
@darkphoenix2 Месяц назад
I just don't have any faith that they're going to pull this off. Unless this plot is completely unconnected from the events surrounding the prequels (which I don't think it can be - 100 years on a universal scale is nothing), there's no way to have a bunch of Jedi fighting some dark side users and it's just a throw away side story with no long term implications.
@sivad1025
@sivad1025 Месяц назад
It was so jarring watching the teaser after TPM. The prequels only get better and better. You really appreciate the detail and camera work in TPM when you flip to the bland, overly edited product in the Acolyte advertisement
@achaudhari101
@achaudhari101 Месяц назад
Are you just saying that just to hate on it because that’s what it’s sounding like.
@BlazinInfernape
@BlazinInfernape Месяц назад
​​@@achaudhari101 Yeah? If you hated the clips shown in the Acolyte trailer, you'd logically like to speak of this hatred and explain why you feel that way? Y'know, I thought this comment did indeed do that. You've got a weird interpretation of what it means to write something "just to hate" because this is a comment written with a very clear and logical tone, like, what even is the issue here? Are we not allowed to dislike something just because? Do we have to give a peer reviewed unemotional scientific report on why we feel a certain way?
@achaudhari101
@achaudhari101 Месяц назад
Considering you saw the Acolyte preview I’d expect you to maybe be surprised and not inherently think it was garbage before seeing it.
@BlazinInfernape
@BlazinInfernape Месяц назад
@@achaudhari101 Before seeing what, the whole show? Nobody mentioned any assumptions about the show itself, and people can have different opinions than you about this trailer, you know. It's right there in the comment, "bland, overly edited product in the Acolyte advertisement." The guy wasn't impressed by the cinematography of the shots shown in the trailer, that's it. Frankly, I agree, particularly with the fight scenes. They feel, I don't know, uninspired, at least specifically during the fight scenes. Still, nobody here is under the impression that the trailer is perfectly representative of the show. This is Thor Skywalker's audience we're talking about, he's about the most open-minded fan out there. Hell, half of this video is explaining how out of context lines from the trailer might be.
@sivad1025
@sivad1025 Месяц назад
@achaudhari101 You don't get a deel for the camera work and editing in the trailer since those are spliced up. The teaser was an extended clip of the fight scene and it made the quick cut editing stand out
@esalkor03
@esalkor03 Месяц назад
Acolyte looks like Rebel Moon, where it wants to emulate other works into itself. Its not bad to do, but do it too much, anything unique about gets lost in a caveat of other works.
@johnpoulton9446
@johnpoulton9446 Месяц назад
Obi wan’s “Jedi were the guardians of peace and justice” in A New Hope seems to take another hit. The plot point the Prequels showed they were “too sure of themselves “ and not perfect which I found good because it added to the explanation of how Palps’ plan worked. But with Luke’s failure in the ST and some of the other Disney content just seems to be another notch against reframing what the Jedi were in Star Wars . So while it’s not 1 character it seems like they want to do with the Jedi what they did with Luke. I’ve got my DVDs for Andor and Mando and have just canceled D+ and will be tuning in here for Star Wars now.
@deathbare5306
@deathbare5306 Месяц назад
Good analysis Thor, I’m with you, the writing team is making the Jedi out to be kind of stupid. They don’t deserve that. Guess we will see where this goes.
@dicsord-server
@dicsord-server Месяц назад
@0:50 maybe you should talk about it. the case was overturned due to judgement bias and inaccurate testimony as this show is about to finally drop, which is directly related to accusations that the show is payment for Leslie's silence. why isn't this star wars news?
@essbe7158
@essbe7158 Месяц назад
The Acolyte is going to be such a failure. Can't wait for the fallout.
@crossfire34
@crossfire34 Месяц назад
Eh, to me it looks like something people would hate watch.
@stalefurset9444
@stalefurset9444 Месяц назад
​@@crossfire34People don't do that anymore.
@oXRaptorzXo
@oXRaptorzXo Месяц назад
@@crossfire34Fellow hollow knight fan spotted
@Micke12312
@Micke12312 Месяц назад
@@crossfire34 some youtubers will ofc watch it. noone else
@darkstalkerknight63
@darkstalkerknight63 Месяц назад
and when it is not, are you going to admit that you are wrong, no you won't.
@shockwave7513
@shockwave7513 Месяц назад
Maybe not forgotten, but covered up? If this one incident happened, and then nothing else, maybe they just sweep it under the rug. So when Ki Adi Mundi says his line, he's speaking the truth as he knows it. Maybe the only one in that room who was alive during these events is Yoda, and as Luke could attest, he's often not very free with the details.
@StevenScott-dj4ck
@StevenScott-dj4ck Месяц назад
When I saw the guy in the mask, I thought of images of Abeloth. Could there be a connection there? Or am I hoping too much?
@blackshogun272
@blackshogun272 Месяц назад
Your hoping too much my guy. No trying to be a negative bum or nothing. I too hope for some interesting but high unlikely possbilities in this new timeline: - the return of Darth Krayt + Talon and the One Sith from the Legacy comics to return from the ashes and escapees of the Final Order + Sith Cult on Exogol. They can appear years down the line in the timeline when Rey and her New Jedi Order (ew) inevitably best the new villains of the upcoming movies. - Disney will never do it but I so badly want them to retcon the Grysk as one of many slave races of the Yuuzhan Vong; similar to what the Hutt Clans have done. In this way, the YV could still be terrifying extra-galactic invaders that'll conquer the unprepared galaxy or send it all up in flames as their species falls into oblivion. - I'd like Canon to make references to things from Supernatural and Cult Encounters since they're pretty much a well-written Infinities novels. Wicked ancestors or straight up revived entities introduced in SE could prove interesting antagonists/villains to actually challenge and humble not only Rey but any and all who claim themselves bold enough to attempt conquest over a galaxy. Something like the World Razer, an ancient AI that seeks to assimilate all organic life, a impatient litch king associated with the Sorcerers of Rhand would make truly terrifying villains as their morals are completely alien or lacking.
@vetarlittorf1807
@vetarlittorf1807 Месяц назад
The Jedi are not idiots. They just became increasingly arrogant.
@teleportedbreadfor3days
@teleportedbreadfor3days Месяц назад
Never been that simple, if it was ever the case
@negritotenfold
@negritotenfold Месяц назад
Blinded by their own righteousness and suppressing history as the victors backfired on them
@teleportedbreadfor3days
@teleportedbreadfor3days Месяц назад
@@negritotenfold What the hell are you talking about, man
@lustrazor44
@lustrazor44 Месяц назад
Given all the current canon, they’re morons.
@achaudhari101
@achaudhari101 Месяц назад
They were idiots on Geonosis to not wait until the Clones came in to help the Jedi hence why out of the 200 Jedi brought in to rescue Obi Wan, Anakin, and Padme, only like 10 lived.
@hurtfixer_
@hurtfixer_ Месяц назад
Acoldyke and the Sithcissor Sisters,,,,
@rvds2040
@rvds2040 Месяц назад
wow, such homophobia in such a short comment
@javierlopez9789
@javierlopez9789 Месяц назад
​@@rvds2040🤓
@blackshogun272
@blackshogun272 Месяц назад
@@javierlopez9789 I mean, lets not lie, hurtfixer had to actually think a bit to come up with that shit 💀
@Matendu
@Matendu Месяц назад
my problem with newer shows is that they look too high definition. Give me that 2000s dvd quality 😂
@decay79
@decay79 Месяц назад
Joker vibes.. I was thinking "Bring out the gimp" vibes..
@emberfist8347
@emberfist8347 Месяц назад
Joker was actually good since it was clear villain protagonist story.
@adarkwind4712
@adarkwind4712 Месяц назад
Went and watched TPE in theatres last night. Didn't bother staying to see the "sneak peak" just can't be bothered.
@achaudhari101
@achaudhari101 Месяц назад
Yet you bothered to comment about this.
@adarkwind4712
@adarkwind4712 Месяц назад
@achaudhari101 Can't be bothered to sit and watch a preview for something I'm 95% certain I won't watch. Vs. Commenting on a youtubers video to help the algorithm see it because I care and do watch their videos. Yes. . . . . .some people didn't need me to lay it out for them.
@achaudhari101
@achaudhari101 Месяц назад
Yet you should allow yourself to be proven wrong and what if Thor likes the show? Then what will be your excuse then?
@adarkwind4712
@adarkwind4712 Месяц назад
@achaudhari101 what do I care if he likes the show? I like him, so I support him. I comment on his videos. I like the videos. it doesn't mean I have to like or support what he likes or dislike what he dislikes. Imagine that people can have differing opinions and still like someone. 🤦‍♂️
@achaudhari101
@achaudhari101 Месяц назад
@@adarkwind4712 The whole point of being subbed to someone is to listen to their takes and get a recommendation on the stuff they review if they like it or not. Using a channel to spread your apathy on a RU-vidr who isn't going to be apathetic to give up or put down something that's not released yet is a whole new ball game. Thor's nice enough to let you say that. Me? I'd throw you out of my channel as I don't need fair-weather ex fans pretending to care about an IP in my comment section. This is not a therapy session.
@DainRiffgin89
@DainRiffgin89 Месяц назад
If you want an indication of the quality of the show, remember that Leslie Headland called the Sith "underdogs" in the show. I think the way she is going to rectify the situation with the Prequels is in the worst way: have the Jedi intentionally bury the dark side incident, showing them to be utterly corrupt and essentially that by hiding what happened (And the dead Jedi), they will deserve what they get in Revenge of the Sith. Because remember: those in power are always evil, no matter what their actual goals are, and the minority are always oppressed, no matter what their goals are. But honestly, I don't know or care if I'm right or wrong: I'm not watching it, full stop.
@NotoriousTim
@NotoriousTim Месяц назад
you could always watch it for free on certain websites that arent disney+
@rvds2040
@rvds2040 Месяц назад
we both know you will, just to hate it, good or bad, like a proper star wars fan you hate watch everything that doesnt conform to what your view of star wars is
@DainRiffgin89
@DainRiffgin89 Месяц назад
@@rvds2040 I haven’t watched Mando season 3, Ahsoka, Tales of the Jedi, or any Bad Batch post Season 1. I canceled my subscription to Disney+, and I don’t feel any need to waste my time watching it, especially if I think it’s going to be bad. I have other shows that have my interest, especially since Lucasfilm has made it abundantly clear that as a longtime fan base I’m not the target audience.
@ian-flanagan
@ian-flanagan Месяц назад
@@rvds2040 I'm also passed that point. Yes, if it doesn't fit what I think Star Wars is, I won't watch.. why should I feel bad about that?
@GGBlaster
@GGBlaster Месяц назад
I do have to say that the whole question of “power, and who is allowed to wield it” is kind of odd, because the Jedi didn’t really wield that much power in the grand scheme of things. Sure, they could influence the entire room just by brandishing their lightsaber hilts, but they were ultimately tools of the Republic. They held little more power than a sword; power and purpose completely dependent on the arm of whoever wielded it.
@Greenelation
@Greenelation Месяц назад
When writers are smart, they: 1. Know the canon they are writing into... 2. Know the universe and all story arc connections they are writing into... 3. Don't bring characters back to life because the previous director botched the entire sequel trilogy... 4. And in agreement to @dankokamcevski comment, create smart villains and challenging obstacles protagonists. It is really a 21st century tragedy on what has happened to star wars. Whilst I sometimes get surprised with a Luke Skywalker appearance, or even several good episodes of the Mandalorian, I just cannot forget how badly they stuffed up the sequel trilogy. And knowing this is always where the story will be leading, I have lost all enthusiasm. #RIPStarwars
@zw246
@zw246 Месяц назад
I was so excited when the guy from Slipknot had his cameo at the end !
@ArtooDetour
@ArtooDetour Месяц назад
I hope Flea gets outrun by a child in this series too! 😂
@ian-flanagan
@ian-flanagan Месяц назад
I thought he was from Pulp Fiction
@zw246
@zw246 Месяц назад
@@ian-flanagan Looks like the jedi caught us a couple of flies
@macwelch8599
@macwelch8599 Месяц назад
I actually enjoyed this new trailer, so much better buildup and editing
@vernonhampton5863
@vernonhampton5863 Месяц назад
2:43 They need to retire the 'Killmonger cut', that looks like garbage on that SSAB's head.
@daneg
@daneg Месяц назад
Thor's "from the studio" line reaction was mine exactly. 😄
@Guyjemm
@Guyjemm Месяц назад
I thought the Jedi being complete idiots was news to exactly no-one...?
@mrcat3493
@mrcat3493 Месяц назад
Right? They were total idiots in the prequels.
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