Apple’s going THIN again! (Why this will turn out BAD..)

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Apple's switching back to an old design philosophy which is trickling down to the rest of their products and being rumored for future products as well. Here's why I think it's a MISTAKE!
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@MaxTechOfficial 3 месяца назад

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@Muhammad-sx7wr 3 месяца назад

Nobody wants thin

@benjaminpeternorris 3 месяца назад

I've got to be honest I was all against thin laptops too, but I much prefer the form factor of my 16" Intel Macbook Pro than my 16" M1 Macbook Pro. The lack of ports and no Magsafe on the Intel model is a real downgrade though. My Intel i9 model literally melts my knees with just web browsing - but now the M series of chips run a lot cooler and quieter I reckon they could still shave a couple of mm off and not sacrifice too much. Just the illusion of thin would probably be good enough by chamfering the sides - as long as they are still able to get Magsafe, SD card reader, and headphone jack on the side.

@aravinddnivara803 3 месяца назад

Thin and light should be focus for air model. Features and efficiency should be focus for pro models.

@chidorirasenganz 3 месяца назад

Eh the Pros can stand to lose some weight

@ZackSNetwork 3 месяца назад

@@chidorirasenganzMacBooks are not heavily you need to work out more.

@chidorirasenganz 3 месяца назад

@@ZackSNetwork Working out has nothing to do the Macbooks could be lighter. Would you like a 4 pound iPhone or iPad?

@NoOne-uh9vu 3 месяца назад

@@ZackSNetwork Luggage weight has limits on airports. Just saying

@heyaisdabomb 3 месяца назад

@@chidorirasenganz Considering my last alienware laptop weighed 4 times my M1 mbp to be able to get a usable amount of performance, the MBP is light. The M3 Max is already thermal throttling. The M4 may help with that, but they the M5 and especially M6 will have overheating issues. If you want light, get the air. Some of us actually push our MBPs for work.

@snoozeshutter 3 месяца назад

Apple be doing bulking and cutting cycle

@AdamGamingARK 3 месяца назад

lmfao

@GU_WOP_O 3 месяца назад

*innovation* the only reason the MacBook Pro is such a chonk is so they could upgrade it to a thinner form

@Amit_R_Tudu 3 месяца назад

😂😂😂

@stephenelliott7071 3 месяца назад

Just when I thought Apple had moved away from 'form over function'. Their devices are thin enough, who really cares if a device is 1mm thinner?! For me I want a laptop with ports, I want a SD Card reader, a quiet powerful machine with a great screen, excellent battery life, a proper cooling solution so the system doesn't throttle back it's performance or get loud (especially important as Apple is currently chasing the games market).

@denblaakop 3 месяца назад

That's stupid, Apple ARE design driven machines. Having as many functions as possible have taken Apple devices from being super high end devices for professionals, to geeky toys for consumers. I really wellcome Ive back, they are hopeless without him. If you want to drown in functions, just go with Windows and Android, that's what they do.

@heyaisdabomb 3 месяца назад

@@denblaakop So if I want to run heavy tasks on my laptop with out thermal throttling, then I should go to windows? If I want more than just a USB-C port, then I should go to windows? Clearly, you barely use your computer for more than light work tasks.

@Timely-ud4rm 3 месяца назад

I agree! I think macbook pro's are think enough what I want is more collent performance, I want them to spend there enegery trying to see how much cooling they can get to maxiumize performance, increase battery life and use the new oled screen as it saves battery power from the black spots as the actual pixulaes are turned off so it uses less power. Thats what I want if they make it any thinner I aint buying it and will stick to my m3 macbook pro.

@gcsalzer 3 месяца назад

@@denblaakop Johnny Ive was shoved out due to multiple design failures. It's been far better without him.

@denblaakop 3 месяца назад

@@heyaisdabomb for the first part define heavy tasks, performance is obviously always a primary validated goal, so is things like cooling. But if you want a machine that is compatible with everything and has all possible functions and all possible options to customize, then obvious, go with windows or linux machines! Trying to do everything all at once creates a mess! and ... the very idea of Macs, is to use Dieter Rams and Paul Rand (and John Ive's) design principles, where the most important one is: make it as simple as possible but not simpler. That's why the butterfly keyboard Macs never worked, Tim Cook (based on the engineering input and Wozniak) wanted Johny to Innovate. Where his own vision have always been to try to make the existing things better and simpler. It's why the 2012-2015 MacBooks where brilliant, why the 2013-2020 iMacs where the same. And it's why the new Sillicon MacBooks where great as well (basically putting M chips into a 2015 Mackbook form factor). It's also why IOS and Ipad os 18 is HORRIBLE ...

@2cats1guy 3 месяца назад

Apple wants to put that 10 ton press from the iPad commercial to good use.

@peterotremba8980 3 месяца назад

Lol

@TamasKiss-yk4st 3 месяца назад

But that was only a CGI.. or where you can buy that emoji with poping out eyes..?

@honeyspiderii 3 месяца назад

There seems to be a culture war going on inside Apple between the "Air" camp and the "Pro" camp. The Air camp ruthlessly obsessed with "thin-and-light" and willing to compromise performance and functionality to achieve that singular aim, while the Pro camp is more willing to accept the fundamental limitations of physics. This war makes no sense. They HAVE an Air line of products AND a Pro line of products. Let the Air be Air and Pro be Pro and let the customers pick the bundle that matches their particular preferences.

@heyaisdabomb 3 месяца назад

The problem is there's a lot of users who want the thinness of the air, but want the pro model, cause they want to be able to say they have a top of the line laptop, even though they don't need the performance. It's literally an ego thing, and it's the pinnacle of American consumerism. We have to have top of the line everything, because you will be judged by others if you don't, and everyone cares too much about what others think of them.

@donnguyen3795 3 месяца назад

Which is really ridiculous, the pro model never means to be a fashion icon, it is the Air job, and they even have the bigger model that both sleek and big.

@vedkapur1 3 месяца назад

If they can make a pro device performance n speaker quality with air thinness. Why give fucks about ports when dongles can do the job. Atleast portability will increase n product design experience will be better

@BSingh-on4qr 3 месяца назад

There's no harm in also adding these thin devices as additional options, but not at the expense of the pro devices

@dogoku 3 месяца назад

NOOOOOOOOO!! Don't touch the macbook! It took us 6 years to get rid of all the bullshit changes they did in 2016, we don't need to do that again! It's already thin enough ffs!

@scotthjohnson1558 3 месяца назад

Apple has an annoying thin fetish...I would much rather have more i/o ports and functionality.

@8bitchiptune420 3 месяца назад

Seriously, get a usb hub or Macbook Pro. They have the “Air” lineup for a reason.

@esterior7198 3 месяца назад

MacBook Pro.....

@InsighterofTech 3 месяца назад

Thin was bad. When they made their iPhones thicker, battery life improved dramatically.

@InsighterofTech 3 месяца назад

@@MTN1601 they’re saving the thin for the 17. I’m pretty sure once they make it thin again, the battery life will be worse than the 16

@NoOne-uh9vu 3 месяца назад

Thin was bad under a totally different paradigm and level of technological maturity

@marcrodet4900 3 месяца назад

The iphone 6s and others with a similar design were thin and great

@Holden_McHock 3 месяца назад

And the feeling in the hand worsened dramatically 🤷‍♂️

@InsighterofTech 3 месяца назад

@@Holden_McHock I’d rather have that than worse battery life.

@cubdukat 3 месяца назад

Ummm…no? The last thing we need are bendy MacBooks.

@scod3908 3 месяца назад

Even the air models are not bendy compared to the plastic Windows machines

@Mike-jb3xe 3 месяца назад

Can’t wait to have thinner magic mouse 🔥

@Coufu 3 месяца назад

It’s going to be so ergonomic 🔥

@ChickenSunFlower0000 3 месяца назад

Missed call 999 from MKBHD

@ODBC_Catalina_Mod 3 месяца назад

@@Coufu Especially while I’m charging it as I use it

@markmcinnis2526 3 месяца назад

It's already out! They call it the Magic Trackpad 2.

@fidelisitor8953 3 месяца назад

Magic mouse air

@mahmood1212 3 месяца назад

Completely agree. I am happy to everything gets thinner and lighter. But For the MacBook Pro the priority should be performance and cooling.

@ODBC_Catalina_Mod 3 месяца назад

⚠️ People who don’t learn history are doomed to repeat it.

@ahmedemreo 3 месяца назад

Well history doesnt matter. Tech has changed

@noisetin 3 месяца назад

Yes, only heavy professional laptops indefinitely, technology development does not matter.

@TokyoNeko8 3 месяца назад

technology changed, manufacturing process changed, power and efficiency is greatly different than the i5 chip before. many people have moved on to usb-c only devices. You should move with the time instead of being stuck in history. Macbook 12" was ahead of its time. That said, I see people want more battery life instead of thinner device, I can't imagine not having a charger near me if I use the computer for 10 hours,.... or when I'm sleeping? 15+ hours run time rated is just fine since I will have a chance to charge it and I can use a small 30watt GAN charger to top off at night. I'd take a thinner (structurally sound) laptop that can still give me 15+ hours, I don't need 30 hours.

@noisetin 3 месяца назад

@@TokyoNeko8 Absolutely, spot on. I can understand need for longer battery life in phones or wearables but on laptops we already reached necessary threshold.

@ProFleer-ep4wq 3 месяца назад

People who don’t learn grammar… ;)

@gskluzacek 3 месяца назад

in my opinion, with the cost of Apple hardware, they should FIRST focus on keeping the system cool and as silent as possible to prevent thermal throttling, then second they should focus on battery life. I don't want to sacrifice either of those for thinner and lighter.

@AmbientClassical 3 месяца назад

Thin and light makes sense for wearables. Not as much for professional computers, imo.

@BerniniFan 3 месяца назад

I’m an advocate for form following function. Sure, make the MacBooks a little lighter/thinner but don’t sacrifice performance.

@incyphe 3 месяца назад

"I swear, when they run out of ideas they resort to 'make it thinner'". Nailed it. Thinner, and also Rounder.

@JasonBay-RealEstateInvesting 3 месяца назад

The MacBook Pro with the M3 max will be the best MacBook if Apple had this direction

@fitzman7 3 месяца назад

If they do actually try to thin out the MBP, it won't happen with M4 but with the M5 model since Oled displays won't be introduced until 2025 at the earliest.

@Jeannemarre 3 месяца назад

They could do it in two steps to maximize profit. 1st step mini les but thinner chassis, second step oled + thinner chassis. Two iterations = more $$$

@djp1234 3 месяца назад

The 2008 MacBook was the best design. It had ports, replaceable battery, upgradeable hard drive. Apple is continuing on the path towards enshitification.

@heyaisdabomb 3 месяца назад

You can still replace batteries without too much trouble. They have pull tabs for the adhesive, and it's only like 12 screws to get it open and remove the battery. The removable hardware is nice, but it had to go for performance sake. The SoC design provides far better performance.

@mojbeka 3 месяца назад

Daily drove my MBP from 2010 for 7 years. Replaced the hard drive with an SSD and upgraded the RAM. My mom used it afterwards for her office work for 3 more years.

@winngh 3 месяца назад

Still use mine on Ventura with an ssd. Not powerful for major work but does the job on menial task.

@samlawrence4670 3 месяца назад

Making portable devices thinner and lighter is only a sensible option if it’s not impacting function.

@hoareg2 3 месяца назад

Not sure what the thinking of Apple is. The thinness and lightness of iPad matter because we tend to use it holding in our hands and also tend to move it around with us whereas for a MacBook, most of the time it stays on a table.

@Sheerwinter 3 месяца назад

1 port? Sounds like a mobile smart phone.

@John-uk3wz 3 месяца назад

Tbh I would unironically love a remake of the 12-inch MacBook with an A-series chip inside. iPhones are already miles ahead of like 2019 macbook airs that can run full desktop apps, newest macOS, etc. so I think that hypothetical machine would be great for a lot of people

@UK.RoadsCyclingandTransport 3 месяца назад

Im keeping my M3 pro MacBook Pro for years to come as its perfect for me and will hopefully last years to come, i love the thicker design as i use the ports built in

@diotitus 3 месяца назад

Their devices are already thin enough. Anything thinner at this point goes to the absolute extreme.

@Akkk117 3 месяца назад

Thats the goal 😮

@diotitus 3 месяца назад

@@Akkk117 So would you want a tablet, phone, or computer that is essentially an electronic equivalent to piece of paper then? I wouldn’t.

@Akkk117 3 месяца назад

@@diotitus make the device disappear into thin air. That's what I want

@TheRelaxingRide 3 месяца назад

fast fashion in the tech industry means great value thrifting for the more discerning user

@ΑνδρέαςΠ-ι9ε 3 месяца назад

Do not touch Macbook pro 16 thickness! Better performance with cooler temperatures, less noise, ports and battery more important!

@peterotremba8980 3 месяца назад

I am still using the intel because I can’t stand how fat the new MacBooks are. IT MUST BE THINNER!!!

@Jeannemarre 3 месяца назад

@@peterotremba8980 even the m1 air completely anihilates the intel MacBooks so I don’t understand what you are complaining about. It’s thin light and smokes intel MacBooks, just get that then… also the pros thickness is perfectly fine, it’s still thin yet accommodates all ports

@AJ-FL 3 месяца назад

@@Jeannemarrewell just have to agree to disagree. I def love the intel MacBook Pro design WAY MORE, than this FAT HALF ROUNDED,RIDICULOUS NOTCH heavy MacBook Pro currently on market. If there able to go back to a more slicker design along with keeping current ports currently available and add back the Touch Bar along with separate f Keys, remove the hideous Notch causing the inability to fully enjoy 4:3 content, bring storage size for MacBooks pros to start at 1 TB (and create reasonable upgrade cost for higher storage), and last but not least make the transition to proper OLED 120hz minimum. I’d easily go back to the MAC Platform and probably resume upgrading said MacBook Pro every year

@ΑνδρέαςΠ-ι9ε 3 месяца назад

@@peterotremba8980 It seems that Macbook Air 15 is an excellent choice for you! I do not mind if they achieve and make Macbook pro 16 thinner as longs as it is at least as good the current ones ( if better like my m1 max 24 cores)

@pweddy1 3 месяца назад

I think Apple needs new management. There’s some arguments that can be made for making the iPad lighter because of the way you use it, but it didn’t really need to be any thinner. And the same thing is true for their laptops. At this point making their products thinner is not innovating, it’s just rehashing an idea that Steve Jobs had over a decade ago. It’s saying they don’t have any new ideas. It’s effectively saying “it worked last time.” They need to come up with something new. And that will probably require new management. Because right now I think they’re just taking all the safe bets.

@AmieWea 3 месяца назад

If I want a lightweight device to do light task I use my Ipad. If I want to get my work done I use my macbook pro. What the point of reducing the weight and thickness of the macbook pro while there are lightweight device already.

@PiotrFoot 23 дня назад

Thickness is not even a debate, unless you are a design maniac What actually matters in real life use is the WEIGHT We need lighter, not thinner

@cjeelde 3 месяца назад

Thinner products: this is great for products that you're wearing and/or holding. So for example Apple Watch and iPad. What about MacBook Pro? You don't wear it and don't hold it. You carry or move it. When using it, it's on a table or on your lap. So that means that it's not so important about how thin it is. It's already thin enough! We don't need a thinner MacBook Pro. Maybe a thinner MacBook Air would be a good thing. But what if they can replace USB-C with something even thinner? The ports are the enemies. So with tinner ports/connectors you can make the MacBook even thinner. The current MBP from late 2021 is good as it is! We just need some yearly chip upgrades, that's it!

@SuperDesignguy 3 месяца назад

I think most people would have preferred a slightly thicker, more robust, longer battery version of the iPad Pro. Who is asking for ultra thin devices? Nobody needs to handhold an iPad Pro 13 for two hours. If you do, get a mini. Same applies to the MacBook Pro and Air.. -- Apple doesn't seem to learn and they never pay for it. People keep buying it. Well.. I'm guilty of it too.

@kirishima638 3 месяца назад

Give me a thicker MacBook with better thermals, more ports (including ‘legacy’ ports), better keyboards with more travel, upgradability (m.2 SSD at least) and improved robustness (no more cracked screens because a spec of dust got traps in the hinge).

@mrrolandlawrence 3 месяца назад

keep the same chassis. i like the fact it does not change. means the cases etc still fit. like the comment said... when apple run out of ideas they go to more thin... products need to be durable. otherwise its just e-waste on a clock.

@chidorirasenganz 3 месяца назад

Thickness doesn’t equal durability. The new iPad Pros are more durable while being thinner

@heyaisdabomb 3 месяца назад

@@chidorirasenganz This is debatable. They snap like a twig is you bend it the narrow way. Just watch the jerryrig video.

@chidorirasenganz 3 месяца назад

@@heyaisdabomb It’s not. Compared to the previous gen it’s more durable. No one said its indestructible

@mrrolandlawrence 3 месяца назад

@@chidorirasenganz paired batteries, unfixable. apple wont fix a thing. always recommend you upgrade instead. i bought 2 ipads. never again. they are so fragile. batteries are down to 60% after 2 years.

@chidorirasenganz 3 месяца назад

@@mrrolandlawrence Apple replaces batteries for products all the time. I used to do tech support for Apple under a 3rd party company so I had people everyday calling about battery replacements. Also I’ve owned two previous iPad Airs since 2019 and neither were at 60% after 2 years so that’s either a lie or you got a lemon

@industryrule-4080 3 месяца назад

I wish battery life was rated in weeks/months and not hours.

@pmeister2462 3 месяца назад

I'm actually all for this especially if they were able to find out how to make its products sturdier while being thinner

@Overspeed_Gaming 3 месяца назад

I do think the mbp is too thicc, and they should give it another shot. Especially with apple silicon and structural reinforcements

@heyaisdabomb 3 месяца назад

Well if you see how the m4 ipads break... I mean they tried, they not bend in the long direction, but hey snap like a twig in the narrow direction. I wouldn't say apple has thin and still sturdy figured out.

3 месяца назад

It was not only Jony's idea. It is Phil Schiller. The guy that brought the transhintosh, App Store "everything is an In-App purchase at 30% haircut" policy, the Touch Bar, the butterfly keyboard. It was not a coincidence that he appeared int he intro for the WWDC. Somebody should tell him to retire and let the new people take over. He had very good things with the click wheel. Do not screw it.

@LivingByFire 3 месяца назад

Thin and light means nothing if it’s fragile and in some cases, usefulness is neutered. I’d rather carry my Asus M16 laptop, weighing 4lbs, knowing it is sturdy, than worry about bending a really expensive Apple device.

@nicosoftnt 3 месяца назад

I actually wished my macbook pro m1 max 16 inch was THICKER. Simply for durability.

@danbuter 3 месяца назад

WTF the Macs are already too thin.

@kimballchoo 3 месяца назад

Not thin enough according to Tim Cook

@nnolimjesse7746 3 месяца назад

@@kimballchoo correction, according to thin cook 😅

@rabbaniazzahra1784 2 месяца назад

list to do on the air 1.convenient 2.easy to carry 3.rest list to do on the pro 1.efficiency (im also talking about the ports, because buying and attaching adaptors is not efficient) 2.performance 3.rest

@michaelcobbin 3 месяца назад

With Apple Silicon and the EU's hard push for the adoption of USB-C and thinner screens, the MacBook Air could be thinner. The key is for Apple to understand past failures and eliminate them from the design. As for the MacBook Pro, wait five years before making them thin.

@Joe_P593 3 месяца назад

100% Correct Max! Please do not wreck the MB Pro. My M1 16” is killer at every task I do. I never hear the fans spin up, (most of us do not edit video etc), the battery life is great and the ports are exactly what I need. I love the robust build quality. I never travel with it; I have a 13” M1 Air, an iPad and phone for travel. So please do not thin down a 16” desktop replacement Pro laptop. Who really needs that BS experiment again? Related: thinner watch & phone - BS. Please we need battery life and repairability.

@barkmonster 3 месяца назад

Tim Cook era Apple have already gone so far backwards they have clashing product lines with their ridiculously inflated pricing for M# and M# Pro systems they’ve also made much worse than the M1 Pro and M2 Pro line by adding E-cores and removing P-cores. They’ll end up with more Thunderbolt 3/USB-C ports, keeping the SDcard slot and having to ditch the HDMI to make them thinner. Pointless. I can’t help noticing the price-gouging of charging 15” pricing for 13” systems for the gimmick of a Touch Bar wasn’t stopped when they got rid of it and added ports back too.

@GoFastGator 3 месяца назад

It was kinda backwards that the iPad Pro got the slim treatment and NOT the refreshed iPad Air. iPad Air got the 5nm M2 (biggest power/heat hog in the M series?) and is basically the same form factor as the base iPad.

@arcadialive4265 3 месяца назад

No, no those were the good days. When traveling I could use those older Mac's to cook my eggs for breakfast 🤣🤣

@agusorellana5551 3 месяца назад

As a pro user still on the M1 Pro 16 inch I'd rather stick to the thick, functional, long battery life, with plenty of ports ones. Instead of the relentless pursuit of thinness.

@Tectectech 3 месяца назад

If they go thinner and can’t maintain the thermal cooling with upcoming M4/5 Max chips, then people will go back to Window. After all, I believe thermal efficiency is one of the reasons why people are willing to switch from Window to Mac because they’d enough of thermal throttle and its fan noise from Window’s PCs

@Datalanche 3 месяца назад

This might be a bit of a hot take but as someone who services Macs, the 12 inch MacBook was a piece of crap. It was woefully underpowered, and still suffered thermal troubles despite the out of the box throttling. It was a mess inside, requiring a ridiculous mount to service. I personally think they should just refine or even just stick with the current MacBook Air and Pro chassis. They're very good as is.

@wandidabula2726 3 месяца назад

I love the older thinner designs with just 4 USB-C ports and I really love TouchBar, I was sad by its discontinuation and now I am stuck with M1 MacBook Pro because of the TouchBar.

@Ultrajamz 3 месяца назад

They want to sell more dongles and make them easier to break so we buy applecare etc.

@PIZZA_KITTY 3 месяца назад

I’m using Touchbar Macbook pro, and waiting for M4. I don’t want to go through compromises to go thin all over again… please

@Fred_the_Head 3 месяца назад

Apple’s pathological obsession with thinness at the expense of battery life, product life, and functionality is ridiculous.

@Noah-xn5th 3 месяца назад

the iPad Pro got thinner, while getting more durable and having the same battery life. So there actually isnt any sacrifice

@tvandever2010 3 месяца назад

The only thing Apple needs to fix on the MacBook Pro is get rid of the notch and lower the price. Those two things keep the MacBook Pro from being great. Other than that, leave it alone.

@musiccreation1198 3 месяца назад

In a Pro laptop, I want performance...and low temps. Period. Fan noise is an utter deal breaker.

@oscarquezada895 3 месяца назад

I’m a web developer and I love my 16’ MacBook Pro M1Pro, Apple should keep the performance for pro users vs thin

@kjeldschouten-lebbing6260 3 месяца назад

I'm going to be frank: A watch that only survives a day, SUCKS. Its a completely shitty watch and making it last even shorter is absolutely the most horrible idiotic idea anyone could come up with.

@juliusdelrosario5228 3 месяца назад

Now that Type C is everywhere, i think it’s ok to have just “4 type c port only MacBook Pro”. There are type c cords that are also like the magsafe

@jordanclayson2 3 месяца назад

I honestly love the wedge M1 MBA, I was a little disappointed when they got rid of the wedge design.

@ufukpolat3480 3 месяца назад

The problem with Apple is that there are many people who work there thinking "How can we do this?" instead of "Should we do this?"

@NikiReed-ds3ti 3 месяца назад

“The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.” - Albert Einstein

@commentarytalk1446 3 месяца назад

I have to go against most comments (I've skimmed) here, for the following reasons: 1. Apple Silicon has it's biggest advantage in thinner, lighter form factor due to efficiency gains. Thinner devices showcase this. 2. Thinner does look sexier in respec to marketing the device 3. Thinner is more portable and ergonomic which is a big help 4. Thinner is probably trending towards the above while battery tech may improve in the interim while they've already got the design ready for that? There could be more reasons eg thinner macs that ensure the iPad remains as iPadOS for comparable specs or else larger machines considerably more powerful and expensive for a clearer pricing tier differentiation? On the iPad I am happy to see thinner device as said future chips and battery will make that no problem i'd estimate. But I would like to see Apple go 2-in-1 category with a more universal OS.

@sglatitude 3 месяца назад

If Apple really thinks they're cutting edge, they better step it up with a 16” MacBook Pro as skinny as the MacBook Air, but doesn’t fizzle out when you actually need it to perform. And a battery that lasts 24 hours? Yeah, right, when pigs fly-let’s see if they can actually pull that off without Pro users having to lug around a power bank the size of a textbook.

@mjs28s 3 месяца назад

Apple = form. Customers = function first, form if it doesn't impact function. Apple to customers - you don't know what you want.

@mcresearch 3 месяца назад

Thin for its own sake shouldn't be a thing.

@hellslayer9638 3 месяца назад

Current design of macbooks is perfect its peak macbook design in decades . Making them any thinner will just be waste of resources and it make consumer satisfaction literally hell just like when they made butterfly keyboard

@flyingcheesecake3725 3 месяца назад

beautiful is good, but better than that, good cooling and bigger battery

@CrisGarcia6 3 месяца назад

I like the current design with the 2021-2023 macbook Pro. We should tell apple not to move that route.

@kiranvegini4937 3 месяца назад

12" MacBook Pro doesn't make any sense in 2024, MacBook Air is already so thin and thanks to the thinner bezels has almost the same footprint of a 12" MacBook from 2016

@Zweiblum66 3 месяца назад

100% agree - the Mac Book Pro shouldn't be a compromise, just because of 2 miliimeters less - also bring back a Base-T Gbit maybe 10 Gbit ethernet. Battery life and cooling are way to important on these devices - to give us best performance. Right now with my old intel 16 I have to carry all additional adapters for gigabiot/HDMI/memory cards - total annoying and alway something you could forget ;-) - Balance simplicity with usability is perfect design! - Maybe split the pro line between 14/16 inch or introduce 17+ inch version with non compromise power of mobile Mac computing.

@chrisdown2591 3 месяца назад

My opinion for what it is worth is; function over form is better than form over function! I had the 16" macbook, the last intel version with only USB-C ports. It was great excepting the fan was constantly noisy and I had to buy a bunch of dongles to get the thing to do what I needed. I now have the M2 macbook 16" and it is fantastic! it has all the function I need and runs quiet even when pushing the CPU and GPU. I know USB-C is the future, but the future isn't fully here yet, plus I prefer a few mm of depth to make sure the system runs cool! Thank you to Apple for making the current generation macbooks, perfect compromise of size, robustness and power with functionality not compromised!

@CemEmreBurus 3 месяца назад

I would add one more thunderbolt port next to magsafe, bring the touchbar back and get rid of the display chin.

@salahidin 3 месяца назад

unless they use solid state cooling

@BT008 3 месяца назад

I think that Apple will move to solid-state batteries as one of the first ones in the industry, this allows them to keep the thinness of the system, while maintaining and/or increasing the battery life. More and more systems are also transferring over to USB-C, so I think behind the scene they already have a roadmap laid out.

@CaptainToadUK 3 месяца назад

I have to agree that thinner is not necesarilly better. My 14" M1 Macbook Pro is thicker than my windows laptop but i don't care because it has a great keyboard, gorgeous screen and is nice and fast. I've only had the fans come on a few times, usually when I'm doing something extreme with it. I wouldn't buy something that had been made thinner and lighter just because

@ryanvacation7319 2 месяца назад

I always thought that the retina MacBook’s chassis was designed with Apple Silicon in mind.

@jasonmatich7463 3 месяца назад

I totally agree with you Max. I want Apple to make an 18” MBP with an Ultra chip and a num pad plus plenty of ports so much more than anything thinner and lighter.

@yippiecalle421 3 месяца назад

Things that Apple can make thinner and lighter with new chips is the Mac mini, IPhone (please bring back iPhone mini), Vision Pro, and the price tags of every apple device.

@AJ-FL 3 месяца назад

Hopefully Johnny Ive will finally remove the “worst design ever” “THE NOTCH” 👌👌👌👌 I literally haven’t bought a MacBook Pro for over the past 5 years because of that notch 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️ We’ll see if Apple comes to their senses

@flatD1 3 месяца назад

Thin and light should be focus on ANY Laptop (and on any Tablet, Desktop, Monitor and even any Keyboard as well). I prefer my old MacBook Pro 15" with TouchBar over the newer ones, just because of its thin and light Design and had never any issue with its ports and connectors. The only problem is the intel CPU, which was never as energy saving, as promised by intel and therefore the cooling system was a bit underpowered. In reality, this Core i7 was never a good Laptop CPU. Jony Ive did the right choices (and if intel has delivered what they have promised, it would be great) and any Apple Laptop after looked like a step back to me, in any case. Not even Apple drops the fantastic and futuristic TouchBar for some old style and useless Function Keys. But also is the whole shape of the former very nimble and clever shaped housing gone (thinner to the edges and sharp edges) and replaced by a Design much more like a cube with slightly rounded edges. Not clever, not nimble, not futuristic. Why in hell? A major step back to me. To make the thinnest products in the Tech World is the right way for Apple and with there own SoC it is not even possible but also necessary to compete against the competition with there thicker, bulkier, heavier but cheaper products.

@Samuel-vq4ii 3 месяца назад

I just want them to add back the fourth Thunderbolt port and possibly add more. Yes, the ASi MBPs have MagSafe, but I want to carry one type of cable and will likely still charge with USB-C away from home when I upgrade from my Intel 16”. Thinness is cool but I care about Thunderbolt more and ditching the fourth Thunderbolt port is my least favourite thing about ASi MBPs. Legacy ports returning was cool and I may occasionally use them, but I went all in on the Thunderbolt switch and don’t plan on going back. Upgradability would also be cool (SSD and RAM upgrade without desoldering and soldering) but that’s a dream within a dream.

@JonMasters 3 месяца назад

I love the notion that all technology stands still how it was 5 or 10 years ago and so making a choice of thicker vs thinner is exactly the same as it was. Or, hear me out, what if technology progressed in the interim? What if the tradeoffs are not the same? And…what if Apple know more about this than us random folks on RU-vid?

@perseus31 3 месяца назад

Seriously this again ? We had enough thinness with Macbook Air, and regular iPhones. We dont want anything more than these.

@alexandertetyukhin1737 3 месяца назад

Battery life is limited by airports requiring it to be less than 100W of volume

@TheMexxodus 3 месяца назад

Apple is basically terrible in ergonomics. They're designed-obsessed. No touch screens in laptops? No two-button mouse? And the list goes on .... Apple brands itself as the company that gives the customer what they want .... Well not. Examples enough in recent devices and their hardware component choices.

@JoseRuiz1348 3 месяца назад

They should have MacBook Air = thinner and MacBook Pro = heavier with more power

@MrkNfr37 3 месяца назад

Airs/Pros should only be thinner if thermals are not increased and battery life is not reduced

@SeraphimHanischMusic 3 месяца назад

Apple certainly makes the finest computer products, but for me as a recording professional, performance and silence are Number One issues, followed by internal storage (both RAM and SSD). The thin thing... well. fine. I appreciate low weight, but I would be happier with thicker / heavier if the tradeoff is silence and power. Thanks for your video!

@1robmal 3 месяца назад

They have two lines. Pro should focus on performance and Air in portability. Let the user decide what they want

@rgseidl67 3 месяца назад

Thinner = better volume/surface ratio (lower temperatures) + less metal (lighter & slightly cheaper case) Unfortunately, thinner also means more fragile. Apple reinforced the new iPad Pro against bending perpendicular to the long axis. Bend it (way) too much perpendicular to the short axis and it will break at the USB port.

@JingSkyJoker 3 месяца назад

If it not too thick, thinner isn't an advantage but weight can. Thinner can be just look thinner, like wedge clam shell which looks thin at the side, but similar thickness at middle and less space to fit battery and port.

@JettingChen 3 месяца назад

We want lighter yet still sturdy. Not necessarily thinner. Acer Swift Edge 16 is good example. Big, light, still a little flimsy but acceptable. MacBook needs to be better than just that.

@vaportrails7943 3 месяца назад

The MacBook Pro should be all about performance. The MacBook Air exists.

@viktormoricz4899 3 месяца назад

By making thinner laptops, you mentioned two main problems. One is the reduced battery capacity, and the other is performance issues due to inefficient cooling. (Let's set aside the issue of bending - anything can bend if you apply enough force, and most of us try to take as much care as possible with these products.) Is it possible that they know something and are developing smaller and more efficient cooling systems to address this? If I wanted to manufacture a thinner laptops, I would also consider whether there is a way to achieve this. Is there a way? What do you think?

@franksamet 3 месяца назад

Functionality over form is better for doing the job and that’s what’s most important for me and I believe most people.

@discodoe1 3 месяца назад

I think making the MacBook Air thinner is brilliant, just like the new iPads. Lighter and more comfortable. But the MacBook Pro is fine like this. Nobody buys a pro because they want a light laptop, they get the pro cause they want the baddest machine even if that means a bit more weight for bigger battery and fan.

@t1328 3 месяца назад

Personally, I switched from an M1 Max MacBook Pro 14” to an M3 15” MBA, and I’m regretting that memory wise. I’d had to see them go thinner than the MBA and what that does to thermals or performance. I think what we have now is thin enough.

@pretay1 3 месяца назад

New form factors generate buzz and help to sell more products. I doubt these ultra-slim products would replace the thicker workhorses. It's just another way for Apple to keep flexing its engineering prowess and sell more products. It's a simple strategy and straight from the Job’s playbook.

@JuanCAraujoS 3 месяца назад

MacBook Pros are great the way they are. Apple better not repeat the 2015 MacBook pro fiasco. The one thing that I would like is the notch to go away or, at least have a justufied use like FaceID.