Apple’s MS-DOS Compatible 486 Macintosh from 1995! 

I love how the mac side of things fades in and out, and the dos part just goes PLONK

I love how serious Clint looks in the monitor's reflection.

My highschool had one of these! People would install heaps of games on the DOS side, and would switch back to the Mac OS when the teacher walked on by. I remember sneaking into the computer lab at lunchtime to play Raptor Call of the Shadows on this beast.

I remember this for a really specific reason - my mom was a University student at the time and she was supposed to get one of these. She had a grant for it. However when we took delivery, they had switched it out for a regular apple computer (whatever the top of the line was, it was actually a better Mac if I remember right). She ended up having to settle but the reason she needed both was because as an archaeology student, her software needs were spread across both Mac and DOS. She ended up buying a seperate PC to do what she needed. I've always been curious as to what this was actually like. Seeing the limitations, I wonder if it would have even been powerful enough to run her software.

"Array of apple adapter aggravation." So nothings changed then haha

"Hello, I'm a Mac." "And I'm a PC."

When I was in high school one of my friends had one of these. I got him hooked on a bootleg copy of X-Com that he used to play constantly. One day I found out that you could only get out of the unit detail screen with the right mouse button...which Macs don't have. I don't think he ever forgave me for making him restart that mission.

Haha, we love that you also snuck in a little Planet X3 there! David and I salute you, Sir! 😎💖

This whole computer feels like a "you got chocolate in my peanut butter" "you got peanut butter in my chocolate" situation.

I grew up with this computer in 1995 to 2005. First it was at home then it was at my dad’s office. Always used it for EA games and Edutainment games on cd-rom. Great computer.

"Doubled up on dongles" is just a funny phrase

Omg my dad worked at apple when they made this PC 😂 the department he was leading at the time apparently prevented a production defect from being put out into the actual release system.

That wood panel CRT stand.

We used to have one of these!

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Man this takes me back. Thank you.

Holy crap I forgot about this machine. I remember having a conversation with my Computer Science teacher in 6h grade about this thing. I was a PC guy at home, and so was he, but the school only used Macs. He tried to talk the school into getting these when they upgraded the whole computer lab, so he could teach both systems. But apparently they were something like 3 or 4x the cost. It blew my mind that a machine could do both systems, but i never saw it for myself. It became a sort of mythical creature to me.

My first computer was a 6100/60. The memories... I had loads of fun playing Marathon, Pathways Into Darkness, Escape Velocity, Doom 1&2 and Return to Zork. Good times.

I remember when I was in Jr High the students still had Apple IIe and our teacher had one of these Power Macs. Then as a freshman, the Students all had Windows PCs (Dell Optiplex Towers) and the teachers still had old Macintosh and Didn't Know ANYTHING about Windows. But we had been using Windows at home since 3.1 and I had currently been gifted a 233 MMX Pentium machine with win 95 on it. It used to anger my computer teacher when he was trying to teach us and I was miles ahead of him and bored to death in class. because he couldn't find his way around the windows environment and did nothing but argue about "These Damn Dell Computers" because he didn't want the dell PCs he wanted new Macs. Good Memories!

"not much point in that, other than it being awesome!" _LGR 2019_

"Like my local city council, that's mostly due to age." Bahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!

According to Apple "Memory is still expensive stuff today" ;D

MS and Mac In One Computer... Never thought that happened

My first computer was a Macintosh Performa 630CD (33Mhz 68k, 8MB ram, 250MB hdd) and although I've never been an Apple Fanboy, this is quite a marvel of engineering, especially back in those days!

As an Apple-aficionado, I got quite a surprise when I saw the title of the video. A really nice surprise! You see, I too have the same card. Here's a few odd things with it I thought are worth mentioning. First, you can pretty much stick it inside any 68040 Mac if you remove the right angle PPC adapter. I have it in a Quadra 950, which has a lot of upgrade options, which means better graphic cards can be used and shared between the two systems. Second, the joystick port is NOT MEANT for MIDI devices. THEY WILL BE DAMAGED IF CONNECTED (basically, there's 5V where midi out should be). My plan is to trace back the midi out signal on the Vibra 16 to add a proper midi out port. Third, could you please upload the floppy images to archive.org or the Mac Garden? Those disks are rare! And as always, keep up the good work!!

Loved the video! I had one of these in the late 90's, it was first Power Mac that I ever had and it just happened to be a DOS Compatible. I remember being disappointed in the 486 card performance as it was slower than the 33mhz IBM PS/ValuePoint that I had at the time. Nonetheless, as you noted, the combination of both machines in one box was a big deal for me and it became my primary computer for way longer than it should have. I still have the 486 card but I later upgraded that machine with a G3 card and a better video card (still have it after almost 20 years). It's great to see such a good video on one of these machines.

Holy cow I had no idea this existed in the 90s... AMAZING!

"Array of Apple Adapter Aggravation" Mmmm, relatable Alliteration

I just gotta say I love how much effort you put into capturing high quality audio of the hardware running in these videos. 🔊 Also, Serious Art. :)

Autumn outside, slice of pizza,warm blanket and LGR episode. I love it

5:32 I see what you are doing there.

Haven't seen one of these in action in over 20 years. A friend of mine picked up a DOS card for his Mac back then, and I brought over a few games to try out. The idea that it existed fascinated me, but it was sad to see that most games didn't run very well. I want to say we tried handing off more of his RAM to improve performance but still had quite a few problems. Wow. Thanks for the memories, LGR.

10:32 "WHAT'S THIS? A Mac/DOS hybrid with no bees? An influx of BEES should fix this!"

I worked at an Apple shop when these were new. I setup many, including adding memory to the DOS card. One issue was the floppy disk. If you were switching disks on the DOS side, you had to wait a few seconds after inserting the disk before trying to access it on from DOS. If you did it too soon, you locked up the floppy disk in DOS until you rebooted it. This happened to me on Disk 29 of 30 of an Office 4.3 install on the DOS side.

"No Linux" Is that a challenge?

This is surprisingly well done, like they could have made a much clunkier implementation than they did. I had no idea this existed, I ignored Apple for most of the 90s though and only really knew of them as doggedly supporting PowerPC until the end. This proves they were actually being pretty open minded.

Seeing a 90s-era Mac running Windows 3.1 is cursed image material.

"For when I'm in the 'mood' to think different." LMAO

I remember my dad having one of these DOS cards in his mac - he would never let us kids install any games on it though.

My first computer was my mom's old Mac 6100/60. It was the original model and only had the 3 1/4 in floppy drive. Had no idea that there was a variant of it that could run DOS.

I had heard rumors of this in the 90s as an elementary schooler but I never knew this was what was meant.

Love your show and I feel your nostalgia to the era when computers were cool and unique. Thank you!

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Back in May, a family friend gave me this beauty of a machine. Everything was in its proper box, and it all works.

I remember my high school having one of these in the Mac computer lab, but it was only for teachers to use sadly.

Interesting setup and good to see it in action! Would have loved to have one of those back in the day. Great vid dude!

3:47 Clint having a big brain time as a reflection in the monitor

This seems like the sort of system I would fawn over and spend my last saved penny on only to throw up with anxiety to discover it didn't actually do everything I thought it would.

"it feels wrong, but in the best kind of way" -LGR Oct 4, 2019 Edit:200 likes damn i have more likes on this than subs and views combined

Oldest machine I personally used was a Pentium II with win 98, so I never knew 99% of the hardware, os and software you feature on your channel, yet I'm filled with nostalgia from your videos. Keep up the good work!

When I was in school, I'd seen some of these in Macs, but the cables were always missing. Recently, a Centris 610 - a 20MHz '040 and the original computer this card was built for - fell into my lap. Again, no cable. I dug around and discovered there were two types of "PC Compatibility" cables, one for the PDS card and one for the later PCI cards. Only the PCI version was documented. I found a guy that loaned me his cable, documented its pinout, and built my own clone, then posted the pinout on 68kmla for anyone that has a card but no cable, like me. It's been working great, but my card (being an original Houdini I card, 25MHz 486sx) has no Sound Blaster! :( Still an awesome system, fun to play around with. Hopefully off to a new home soon :)

Fun fact Clint. The mac startup chord was played on a 12 string guitar by a jazz artist named Stanley Jourdon. Stanley, I'm sorry if I didn't spell your name right, but I think I did. I wish this soundcard could be converted into an SF2 file. Great video Clint.

the ram costs as much as my entire computer

biggest nostalgia hits for me: seeing the PC BIOS output; the 486DX66-2 chip; everything really. Thanks!

Damn, I had one when I was a kid. I was so upset when my parents upgraded to a PowerMac G4.

That was my first and only Mac. It was a hand-me-down from my cousin who had to use this specific computer for college.

I remember when our school had special Macs that ran DOS, because they had educational games that only worked with MS-DOS!

I had a couple of them. I was working for a game company and porting a game to Windows and the Mac. It was a decent time saver.

This was an incredible feat of engineering for 1995.

You are one of about 3 RU-vidrs that make me spend all my money on old tech I dont really need (nor can really afford) each month!

Ppl in current year: bruh lemme borrow ur dongle Ppl in 1995: bruh lemme borrow ur dongle

This sounds like one of the coolest vintage computers I've seen. Good work LGR.

Nobody: Apple: We Have A DOS Compatible Power Mac 6100/66 Microsoft: you have been chosen.

Truly one of your best works of comedic video art. Five thumbs up! 👍👍👍👍👍

My first thought was: I wonder if this card has a compatible Intel Overdrive chip...

As someone who grew up on Macintoshes at home and dealt with Windows PCs at School, this is like my dream machine for my 11 year-old self. I owned a PowerMac 6300 as my personal computer during my late childhood.

AFTER DAAAAAAAAARK! I actually still have a couple flying toaster convention bags.

Watching this video takes me back to my days in high school in the mid-90s. We had one of these in each one of the classrooms, and I always had fun making the Mac crash just so I could freak everyone out with the digitized car crash noise that it made. Good memories. Thanks for the video!

4:52 - Ah, I miss that startup sound.

Remember having this as a kid in my room I had two monitors and a TV between them with multiple other systems hooked to the TV as well as a VCR. It’s a great device for people who loved to multi-task before what technological advances we have today.

Yess! This is sweet! Also love when you do Mac stuff!

I HAD THIS WHOLE COMPLETE SETUP! Wow, this is really taking me back. I bought the whole setup for $30 and it came with 2 C64's and disk drives on the side. Thanks Clint!

"Two systems in one ... for the price of three". Bless Apple ...

I just scored a Performa 640CD Dos Compatible from a recycler for $20. You inspired me! Cleaning it up and hope to boot it up in a few days.

Microsoft and Apple fanboys: *unanimous confused screaming*

It's great to see LGR bring up the subject on the extravagant expense of RAM back in the 1990s; where for me back then, it seemed puzzling how the small pieces of electronic circuitry could be so costly. I recall Microsoft's DOS workaround for those PCs with minimal RAM: using the hard drive as a buffer so it acts as "virtual RAM." It's great to now being in an era where the desktop PCs have gotten to the performance level that I desired, but not capable of, back in the 1990s.

5:32 Lovely fruit painting there!

I love that different Mac startup sound, it's so unique.

Kinda like a Hackintosh, but the other way around.

I smiled broadly when I saw Planet X3 =). Well, this “apple” certainly certainly looks interesting! Thank you for the video!

‘Includes CPU’ - wow !

I used this computer for ten years. Maxed out ram on both sides, two 17-inch graphics monitors, and ran CAD and GIS on the Dos card. Ran Windows 95 just fine, but it was kind of pointless to do so because I only needed DOS. I loved this machine. Sold it and a heap of Mac/Dos/Windows software for $50.

Wow! I had no idea this existed.

Used this as the teacher's computer when I established a cross platform computer lab at the Musik-Academie Basel. I had 4 Macs for the Mac students and 4 486's for the Windows (Win 95). The students learned basic WP, database and music notation. Great little machine.

So, it's basically two computers in one package? That's a very 90's Apple thing to do.

I have one of this! Still working with dos compatibility card! Great old days..

"No Linux" Oh Clint, you just had to say that. Someone somewhere is probably working on it right now. :P

I remember seeing one of these once, at a high-end print shop, which makes a lot of sense.

Any chance of seeing Windows 95 running on this just because ?

I remember this computer. My gifted teacher got this and was showing it off. Saw the future at least in the area of file compatibility which we all enjoy today. The cut and paste between the two is mighty useful.

Was that Planet X3 from the 8bitguy at 10:50?

I had one in my college days, nice machine , I used the pc mode mainly for playing MS-DOS games and the Mac OS for everything else. My machine did not come with the cd rom option installed, but i had an external unit, i disassembled it and puted inside my 6100/66 , the only mayor hack was carving the hole in the front panel (it was removable) so the tray could exit and enter normally, like your unit. Good memories !!

“Not much point of that, other than being awesome” rofl

My Primary School had a bunch of these in their office and one in the year 6 class room and two in the library (the one in the classroom was the only one students could use). They had them for 4 years if I recall. I had no idea what they replaced them with because by then I had moved onto high school. I remember the one in the year 6 classroom had Myst installed on it (that one belonged to the teacher who was the school tech who looked after the server and computers). The guy in charge of looking after all their computers loved this machine in particular because with it they could talk to the older macs in the year 1 to 5 classrooms and talk to the PC in the principle's office and PCs which made up the library cataloguing server (which used DOS) making communication between the Macs and PCs in the school possible. I've been into computers from a young age so I was one of the only students who showed genuine interest in the computers at the school. But this was the 90s so the teacher who looked after the computers was still hesitant to let me near them.

"Serious Art" :D:D:D

The only mac I have ever wanted. It is right up my alley. 1987 to 1997 are just the most interesting years in computing. So many options, so many different systems. It was heaven back then.

Ohh, the donglepillar!

I remember this computer fondly from my father's business... I had purchased a Myst-like video game that was based on a popular radio show from that time era (The World of Don & Mike), and this computer was the only one I could play on it until I built my Pentium system for college.

You know you’re early when there are more likes than views.

That is a beauty! I had a Power Mac 6100/66 in 95 when I was in my last year of college (graphic design major). Mine wasn’t a DOS compatible one, but I remember we had one in our computer lab at school. This brought back some memories! Thanks!! 👍🏻