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Apple M2 Max - a worthy upgrade from M1 Max? 

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How does Apple’s M2 Max chip compare to the M1 Max? Is it worth upgrading if you already have M1 Max?
In this video I share my real-world experience, and look at the benchmarks to draw some conclusions.
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Комментарии : 66   
@galgogergo
@galgogergo 10 месяцев назад
At 8:05 aren't M1 Max 32c and M2 Max 38c labels interchanged by any chance? (Sorry, I don't really understand how the newer generation could be slower in those tests) Great video, and thanks for the new upload btw! :)
@ConstantGeekery
@ConstantGeekery 10 месяцев назад
🤦🏼‍♂️ looks like it!
@MeinDeutschkurs
@MeinDeutschkurs 10 месяцев назад
I‘m happy with M1 Max 16 inch as well, and it‘s crazy what we‘re able to do with M2 Ultra and 130gb VRAM + rest to 192 normal Ram usage. Crazy. 🙌
@fiveshorts
@fiveshorts 8 месяцев назад
I love your direct, no frills reviews. Keep it up!
@RobCMDRSavatage
@RobCMDRSavatage 10 месяцев назад
Great video as always, when is the Podcast coming back though?
@ConstantGeekery
@ConstantGeekery 10 месяцев назад
Thanks 😊 We are in the process of refitting our studio, and once that is done we will have a new podcast set. It's coming.
@daveh6356
@daveh6356 10 месяцев назад
Good see you back on these comparisons. Not sure the GB6 compute slide at 8:05 is correct though. M2 Ultra next?
@ConstantGeekery
@ConstantGeekery 10 месяцев назад
It's not correct, my bad.
@johnmckay1961
@johnmckay1961 10 месяцев назад
I have the 14" M1 Pro, only upgrades are 32GB Ram and a 1TB SSD. I won't be upgrading for a very long time, it is absolutely incredible.
@mistymouse6840
@mistymouse6840 10 месяцев назад
Same. It's really more than I need.
@thuytrinhnguyen8497
@thuytrinhnguyen8497 8 месяцев назад
Hi, do you work with Premiere After Effects for logo animation as well? I'm considering buying a refurbished M1 Max 64 GB ram and 1 TB storage VS. a brand new M2 Max 32 GB ram and 1 TB storage. They have a similar pricing.
@bugged1212
@bugged1212 10 месяцев назад
Good video, thanks for covering the snapiness aspect. I got M1, then M1 max first day with 32 GB Ram. I have not had any issue pushing the machine with mostly coding work. Running multiple projects and docker containers is easy peasy. I don't think twice about opening anything including Mobile simulators while having multiple projects open. I think the only thing that would make me upgrade is faster single core performance. And unless M3 blows away M1 and makes it obsolete I will most likely only be interested in an M4 machine or even an M5.
@normanbasham4436
@normanbasham4436 10 месяцев назад
Great job. There are a lot of benchmark results that we can all find. It would be even more interesting if you could document apps that are key to people's profession e.g. Xcode, Photoshop, Illustrator, Logic, etc. Many of us would be very impacted by one of these apps and it would nice to have an in depth understanding before updating. E.g. Someone using Xcode might be interested in small and large project compile times, clean vs. incremental compile times, SwiftUI preview refresh times, etc. Thanks!
@youthe12
@youthe12 8 месяцев назад
Great video! Thank you for sharing!
@greographer
@greographer 10 месяцев назад
For those of us that got into computing 50 plus years ago, both machines are magical. I will keep my M1 Max 64GB 4 TB 16” for a couple more years.
@MeinDeutschkurs
@MeinDeutschkurs 10 месяцев назад
…30 plus… but the rest I‘m able to sign. 😂😂🙌
@ed61730
@ed61730 10 месяцев назад
Me too! It still flies through AE and 3d redshift renders. I'll probs wait for the m4 or m5. Apple's mistake was making m1 so good.
@ThePistonPit
@ThePistonPit 9 месяцев назад
Theres a deal for £3500 for m1 max 64gb 4tb … is it worth going for this or for the m2 max 32gb and 2tb?
@greographer
@greographer 9 месяцев назад
Well, my new M1 Max is fantastic for what I do. I would not bother with M2 and the higher price. If price is no object, wait for M3.
@jeeeeeefff
@jeeeeeefff 6 месяцев назад
Even the regular M1 runs absolutely amazing, I guess I'll keep my M1 Max for 10 years 😂
@Technocrat.
@Technocrat. 10 месяцев назад
Thanks for the great video.
@AlanW
@AlanW 10 месяцев назад
Love the episode.
@drivefast996
@drivefast996 7 месяцев назад
With the most recent 33% or so price drops at B&H and other stores the M1 Max is looking like an incredibly good deal....I think I'll pick one up. What color do you think I should get?
@rogermuggleton8127
@rogermuggleton8127 10 месяцев назад
I have a M1 Mac studio and an M1 MBA, both base models. The Studio is used at home for office stuff and photo editing. I edit 40 MP RAW files but don't load up many at the same time, nor do much complex stuff, so everything is pretty much instant. M3 machines will probably behave much the same as my M1s given the way I use them. The question is, what can Apple produce that will make it worth me replacing these machines?
@Quraishy
@Quraishy 10 месяцев назад
For me the main thing is how the laptop looks physically, and how good the screen and battery life are. Hence I was looking to buy Macbook Air M2 24 GB ram, on ebay which was costing about $1800, but I stumbled on a brand new M1 Macbook pro 1tb, so i got that for about the same price. I lose 6gb in ram and the slickness of the air, but other features on the macbook pro are worth it if its for the same price I feel.
@ConstantGeekery
@ConstantGeekery 10 месяцев назад
I think you got the better machine. 👍🏻
@blossomout5463
@blossomout5463 9 месяцев назад
Thank you for the video!!
@ConstantGeekery
@ConstantGeekery 9 месяцев назад
😊
@herrwarmduscher5204
@herrwarmduscher5204 10 месяцев назад
Any difference with the addition of WiFi 6E on the M2 Max?
@ConstantGeekery
@ConstantGeekery 10 месяцев назад
I expect there is, but I don’t have any 6E networks to test it out.
@peteblazar5515
@peteblazar5515 10 месяцев назад
Quadro RTX 5000 launched on August 13th, 2018.
@Jenny_Digital
@Jenny_Digital 10 месяцев назад
Can’t wait to see the M3 generation!
@nukenoly8751
@nukenoly8751 8 месяцев назад
I use the base M1 MacBook Air for music production and I can’t break it with my sessions. Amazing for $599 used 😊Great content here
@romteb
@romteb 10 месяцев назад
I may have missed it in the video but what about performance/watt ?
@ConstantGeekery
@ConstantGeekery 10 месяцев назад
I haven’t done enough testing on that, but M2 Max draws in the region of 15 - 18% more than M1 Max. Given the higher performance, they’re in the same ballpark. M2 Max probably just edging a win, but I need to do more testing.
@jaffarbh
@jaffarbh 10 месяцев назад
I think for pure video editing, there is no equivalent to the M2 Max that can provide the same level of performance and efficiency. It's black or white. For most other tasks, it depends, benefiting PCs (with 12/13Gen Intel and 4000 Nvidia GTX).
@ed61730
@ed61730 10 месяцев назад
Pc is so far ahead now for creative work but for laptops the m chips are just so efficient.
@jaffarbh
@jaffarbh 10 месяцев назад
@@ed61730 It's just that Apple reserves more silicon for encoders and decoders than Nvidia. Each targets different applications.
@jinraigami3349
@jinraigami3349 9 месяцев назад
@@ed61730 On Desktop, especially 3d, yes. For laptops, especially video editing, nah.
@summer_xo
@summer_xo 10 месяцев назад
Great vid
@ConstantGeekery
@ConstantGeekery 10 месяцев назад
Thanks 😊
@paulharrison8379
@paulharrison8379 10 месяцев назад
I went into Currys and found that out of the 4 models of MacBook that they sold all but one had the minimum 256 Gb of flash memory and all had 8 Gb of RAM. Even my cheap hand me down gaming PC has 16 Gb of RAM and a 2 Tb SSD. Apple understand that in the real world giving a system a faster, bigger SSD and lots of RAM is more important than giving it lots of CPU cores and yet the vast majority of Macs sold in stores have bottom end SSDs and RAM. To me any M1 system with a large SSD and RAM would be better than any M2 system that had been deprived of a larger faster SSD and lots of RAM.
@ConstantGeekery
@ConstantGeekery 10 месяцев назад
It's very frustrating that all the off-the-shelf retail models of the Air, iMac and M2 Mini are 8GB. 16GB is a very worthwhile upgrade on these (as is a 512 SSD), but if you want more RAM you have to custom order. Fortunately, the Pro and Max models do at least come with a more sensible allowance.
@paulgooderham
@paulgooderham 10 месяцев назад
Thank you, geek.
@herrwarmduscher5204
@herrwarmduscher5204 10 месяцев назад
I have a fully spec'd 2019 16" 64GB RAM 5600M. I bought it for $4700 in 2020, 1 year before the M1 Max came out. Should I upgrade to the M1 Max or wait for the M3 Max? I will mainly use it for coding. I feel like I haven't fully utilized my Intel 16" but at the same time, the step up to AS is quite monumental. And also, the M1 Max is on sale for $1400 off.
@joshuarichard6827
@joshuarichard6827 10 месяцев назад
No be happy
@ConstantGeekery
@ConstantGeekery 10 месяцев назад
If it works for you, keep using it. Used prices for Intel Macs are not as favourable as they once were. That said, if you want to upgrade, $1400 is a healthy discount. I don’t think M2 Max is worth another $1400 over M1 Max for coding.
@novicepilotaviator5868
@novicepilotaviator5868 7 месяцев назад
Awesome tech with phenomenal Apple silicon performance
@MauroMarcenaro
@MauroMarcenaro 10 месяцев назад
hi, docking station for mbp m1 max, many usc port lan and dp or mini dp, why do you don t make a video ? Many ppl looking for a good docking station. Ciao from italy
@ConstantGeekery
@ConstantGeekery 10 месяцев назад
I personally use a Razer Thunderbolt 4 dock, which is excellent. I may do a review on that. 👍🏻 I have published a couple of videos for hubs: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-T5zEqjxg-C8.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-W-X18RkYsPQ.html
@MauroMarcenaro
@MauroMarcenaro 10 месяцев назад
@@ConstantGeekery hi thank, map m1 max need many usbc port than usb2 /3 port, i have a docking for mini dp, coz i have an apple cinema led display 27; but i need usbc port for external ssd hhd and other port, I m from Genoa , i like ur channel
@johnkellett7797
@johnkellett7797 10 месяцев назад
Who on earth upgrades their computers every year or so? In my profession even once every three years is hard to justify economically. I’m stuck with my functioning high spec 2020 iMac 27” until the M3 MacBookPro to replace my 2016 MacBookPro (PS - the Touch Bar was a brilliant innovation for BIM)
@fmarinosfromafar9512
@fmarinosfromafar9512 10 месяцев назад
(I'm very very happy with my M1 Max MBP, so I'm not sure that I really want to watch this!)
@ConstantGeekery
@ConstantGeekery 10 месяцев назад
You can continue to be very very happy, don't worry.
@frazerweb
@frazerweb 10 месяцев назад
Soon it will be the M2 v the M3 then the M3 v the M4 and it will never be enought for some people, even if their cars could travel at 1000 miles an hour, it wouldnt be fast enough.
@issiewizzie
@issiewizzie 10 месяцев назад
I’ll upgrade from my MacBook Pro M1 to something that gives me a 50% improvement in possibly the next four years
@Mr.Zen_73
@Mr.Zen_73 10 месяцев назад
M2 Max should really be called M1.5 Max, not much of an upgrade - i'm waiting for M3 with hopefully 3nm chips before I upgrade from M1 Max
@Vic3god
@Vic3god 8 месяцев назад
Im just gonna keeping the trading in max for max but I see where you are coming from
@KokkiePiet
@KokkiePiet 10 месяцев назад
So loads of synthetic benchmarks that really don’t say that much about real world performance but only a short mention about how fast it is in video editing compared to you workstation??? That’s the only important one!!! Please stop doing geekbench and cinebench, show us real world workflows!!!
@ConstantGeekery
@ConstantGeekery 10 месяцев назад
Synthetic benchmarks are ideal for comparing two chips of the same architecture. Real world views are always subjective, and I can only comment on workflows I have personally spent time with. I am preparing a video comparing to the workstation in more detail for video editing - specifically with comparison to the RTX4090.
@KokkiePiet
@KokkiePiet 10 месяцев назад
@@ConstantGeekery Yes, that is correct, you are comparing 2 chips with the same architecture. You do not test the real world speed of the computer that it is in. If you would take 2 exactly the same apple Laptops, one with 8 GB of RAM and one with 24 GB you would have the same results in synthetic benchmark tests, however, thing like converting 100 RAW files in Lightroom, or an 4k 20 Minute video editing would show a huge difference. Synthetic CPU/GPU Benchmarks are not a good indicator of the speed of the computer you are testing.
@ConstantGeekery
@ConstantGeekery 10 месяцев назад
@@KokkiePiet the video is about M1 Max compared to M2 Max. The tests fit the title and are representative of the difference between the SoCs, before factoring in RAM and SSD impacts on real-world performance. I deliberately used machines with the same amount of RAM. I’ve covered lots of different aspects in many different videos, targeted at different demographics from within my varied audience. This one clearly wasn’t for you, perhaps you’ll enjoy the deeper dive with the workstation more.
@zyreno
@zyreno 7 месяцев назад
11:03 M3 Max 18 month away? 😂
@ConstantGeekery
@ConstantGeekery 7 месяцев назад
Must remember to buy one of those flux capacitors to fix my broken DeLorean.
@tonyburzio4107
@tonyburzio4107 10 месяцев назад
The M3 is for 3D and games. If you don't need that, the M2 is fine. GPU cores don't really help compared to standard add-on PC graphics cards.
@rolandgerard6064
@rolandgerard6064 10 месяцев назад
Too marginal to upgrade.
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