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Apple Sued: Terminated Account and $24K in Content - Ep. 7.440 

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A man has filed suit saying Apple terminated his account AND his access to $24,000 in content he paid for.
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@joeblow8593
@joeblow8593 3 года назад
If anyone took $24,000 of property from someone, they'd end up spending several years in the state pen and have to pay fines and restitution
@mikehilbert9349
@mikehilbert9349 3 года назад
I was thinking about if the car dealer came along after your vehicle is paid off and repos it saying they cancelled your membership.
@matthewross3941
@matthewross3941 3 года назад
@@mikehilbert9349 Tesla....
@adamdnewman
@adamdnewman 3 года назад
Time to lockup and seize all apple asserts for RICO (Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act) violations.
@gordonshumway7239
@gordonshumway7239 3 года назад
If you broke the copyright protection and shared a few 99 cent songs, the Feds come for you. If a Corporation takes $24k of your stuff they enjoy the mystical protection of “Terms of Service” ...
@bobspizza7444
@bobspizza7444 3 года назад
Not if it's the police and it's asset forfeiture. They don't even have to charge you with a crime. And any bank manager don't even get me started. What you mean is any of us peons aren't allowed to steal :)
@Zundfolge
@Zundfolge 3 года назад
This is why people just pirate media ... honestly following the rules is way more fraught with peril than just stealing it.
@7heRedBaron
@7heRedBaron 3 года назад
Like someone said above, support the artist by buying their merch. But get the music however/wherever you can.
@tc1uscg65
@tc1uscg65 3 года назад
I got the feeling people will start looking at Audials as a "backup plan". Just sayin.
@oldmanfunky4909
@oldmanfunky4909 3 года назад
@@7heRedBaron Have you heard todays music? It doesn't deserve support.
@JesseBusman1996
@JesseBusman1996 3 года назад
“Piracy is a service problem.” - Gabe Newell
@pauliewalnuts2527
@pauliewalnuts2527 2 года назад
yaharg!
@robert5
@robert5 3 года назад
Friend had apple account with a ton of music he paid for. I told him that account could be closed at any time and he would lose everything and for him to investigate how he can download or some how backup everything on that account. He checked into that and found a way to translate all that music into MP3 files and have all those stored on his own computer.
@jeramylaneholt
@jeramylaneholt 3 года назад
Funny thing is apple uses mp3s wrapped in a container file to try to stop you from porting around your music. They did not invest in a proprietary music format, just a way to obscure and lock an existing one. I've always said that if they expect me to spend any money on digital format products, it better come at an extremely deep discount before I even consider it. Look at games and movie too, they wanna charge full price for a digital download. There are some services that have gone under, restructuring, or outright remove content people have paid for. In the gaming industry, even if you get the physical media, it's unfinished and damn near unplayable without connecting to some server to download 40 gigs of updates. They are trying to sell you on a perceived convenience while they turn a product into a service and make you pay full price to rent access to it.
@BrianCave
@BrianCave 2 года назад
@@jeramylaneholt apple uses AAC and if you buy the music you can download it encryption free. I do it all the time and run it in other apps and other devices.
@PureSPLprix
@PureSPLprix 2 года назад
What did he use because i have an old Ipod that Apple wouldn't transfer my music to a new computer after my old computer took a dump.
@StephenMatrese
@StephenMatrese 2 года назад
convert to CD and then mp3 to AAC (or just use piracy software- yes, it has legal uses)
@StephenMatrese
@StephenMatrese 2 года назад
@@jeramylaneholt No, apple uses a lossless format
@ripvanrevs
@ripvanrevs 3 года назад
I just turned around to make sure my 140 CDs were still sitting on the floor behind my computer chair.
@mandolinic
@mandolinic 3 года назад
Only 140 CDs? What a lightweight ;-) (Just joshing)
@richdiddens4059
@richdiddens4059 3 года назад
Remember the lawsuits from when they printed "By opening this package you agree to the terms and conditions" on the outside of the package but you couldn't see those terms and conditions without opening the package? Talk about buying a pig in a poke.
@BlackJesus8463
@BlackJesus8463 2 года назад
lolz
@eljayess
@eljayess 3 года назад
And that's why I buy books, CD, DVDs. Nothing changes in the middle of the night when your not looking .
@truth.speaker
@truth.speaker 3 года назад
You still pay money for music?
@mikestoolfun
@mikestoolfun 3 года назад
I do the same thing.
@eljayess
@eljayess 3 года назад
@@truth.speaker yes ,because I'm not a thief.
@truth.speaker
@truth.speaker 3 года назад
@@eljayess I'm not talking about breaking the law or stealing Many smaller artists and hobbyists put their music on RU-vid and run ads It's really enjoyable to support new artists and help them build a revenue stream and fan base. RU-vid also has deals with major record labels, so you can still listen to most of your collection for free
@TheBrokenLife
@TheBrokenLife 3 года назад
@@truth.speaker The vast majority of those artists also self-publish to Amazon. I prefer to buy the music there and not be saddled with RU-vid, the ads, the bandwidth, or anything else. Truth be told, by selecting slower shipping options on my Amazon orders I build up enough digital music credits that I don't actually have to "pay" for music anyhow. So... I get free music, legally, just by being an Amazon customer.
@CantankerousDave
@CantankerousDave 3 года назад
For those too young to remember, in the early days of iTunes, everything had Apple DRM so you could only play music purchased there on Apple devices. When Apple started losing business to services that weren’t as restrictive, what did they do? Offer to SELL users “upgraded” versions of music they already purchased without their own restrictive DRM. Apple can’t help themselves. They don’t see their users as customers. They see them as money spigots. Also, I actually like that Billy Ocean song.
@adamdnewman
@adamdnewman 3 года назад
And the fanboys are falling over themselves to hand them $$$
@brentfarvors192
@brentfarvors192 3 года назад
@@adamdnewman No "cure" for STUPID!!!
@MartintheTinman
@MartintheTinman 3 года назад
We're all cows to be milked by some greedy fucker
@BrianCave
@BrianCave 2 года назад
I went through this timeframe and you are wrong about re-purchasing music, as long as you were using the same apple account you just downloaded a fresh copy in plan AAC.
@happymack6605
@happymack6605 3 года назад
Like renting a safe deposit box at the bank. Just because your bank account has been terminated, shouldn’t mean that they get to keep the contents of the box. They should have given him notice so he could transfer the contents.
@Rox600601
@Rox600601 3 года назад
Not so sure you should feel secure about safety deposit boxes at a bank or 3rd party. Many in the last years have been confiscated through no unlawful activity of the owner of the box. The owners box just had to be in the vicinity of a safe deposit box that was 'suspected ' of having unlawful contents or related to legal action against the owner. Just sayin. Steve might have a vid on this topic.
@mr.robinson1982
@mr.robinson1982 3 года назад
You are expecting APPLE to care about its customers.....lmfao
@BrianCave
@BrianCave 2 года назад
@Just Looking music you can, if purchased it’s available in encryption free AAC.
@archygrey9093
@archygrey9093 2 года назад
You cannot transfer it, even when downloaded apple still had full control
@uraldamasis6887
@uraldamasis6887 2 года назад
That's different; nobody in their right mind would sign a contract for a safety deposit box that says the bank has the right to close your box and keep all contents for any reason without notice. But nobody reads an iTunes contract.
@garbonzobean1
@garbonzobean1 3 года назад
This. Exactly why I'm personally so anal about owning physical copies of media. I can digitize it myself, thank you.
@Alverant
@Alverant 3 года назад
And you can't have a musician autograph an MP3.
@leo.girardi
@leo.girardi 3 года назад
FLAC baby. And I have the album art from the CD.
@ScubaSteveCanada
@ScubaSteveCanada 3 года назад
@@user-eh5cr4or6k Not when the band is thousands of miles away, not even on the same continent. What, you're going to trust the USPS to both send and receive your MP3 burned to a CD?
@rll9911
@rll9911 3 года назад
@@ScubaSteveCanada isn't that what insurance is made for?
@thevalorousdong7675
@thevalorousdong7675 3 года назад
@@rll9911 Oh wow, I didn't know insurance was foolproof. It's not like they always try to go out of their way to say you're at faul- oh, wait.
@AugustSchunk
@AugustSchunk 3 года назад
Another point of the business model is that you can no longer leave your music library to your kids.
@thatjeff7550
@thatjeff7550 3 года назад
This is why I haven't bought any digital music at all. I want a physical copy just so some company can't come around and say, "Oh, you can't have that anymore" and cut my access to that product.
@brentfarvors192
@brentfarvors192 3 года назад
@@M167A1 Completely USELESS comment...No. They aren't; Why the new Xbox digital only system is selling so horribly...
@Milosz_Ostrow
@Milosz_Ostrow 3 года назад
That's simple enough to fix. When you buy digital content, download the files and store them on your own devices, be it flash memory or optical discs. If the supplier only allows one to stream the music, record it while it is streaming and store the files.
@brentfarvors192
@brentfarvors192 3 года назад
@@Milosz_Ostrow That's the whole reasoning behind the law suit; Apple encrypts YOUR media, and won't allow a transfer in the event of an account ban...Basically, Apple is saying "we don't want you, to use our products, anymore"...AFTER he PAID for them...His Apple devices he paid THOUSANDS for, are now "paper weights"...NO. You can't sell a product, then revoke access to said product! That would be like buying a car, and the company revoking your ability to drive it...
@robert5
@robert5 3 года назад
@@brentfarvors192 apple will say he bought a revocable license and he "owns" nothing. Have a good friend who had an apple account so I said you know after you spent all that $$ they can terminate your access to that right? So he found a way to convert all his songs to MP3 and download them all to his computer. This was a long time ago so maybe apple figured out a way to prevent that. I don't ever buy a revocable license to listen to a song. I own most all the music on CD's as I consider each of those an irrevocable life time license for that music. When and if I buy more music, I try and find the CD version. I like to cruse the 2nd hand stores and always check the CD collection to see what they got. 2 or 3 bucks a pop for most CD's and they usually always have something in the classic rock category. Just picked up four 1970's era live stones albums for 2 bucks each from a backwoods 2nd hand store. Love it.
@brentfarvors192
@brentfarvors192 3 года назад
@@robert5 I think the judge will rule otherwise...If you have a licence that's revocable, that's called LEASING...Seeing as how the word "buy" has historically been universal to mean you OWN IT...Sure; They can change the wording to say "lease it", but no one would do it, since they can OWN IT ELSEWHERE! The specific word "BUY", will play a major role in this case...
@ZeroBlackfire
@ZeroBlackfire 3 года назад
This shit right here is WHY I let out my inner Jack Sparrow when it comes to music.
@StaggerjAGGER
@StaggerjAGGER 3 года назад
You will always remember that this was the day that you almost caught captain jack Sparrow! 🎶🎶🎤
@chlorophil545
@chlorophil545 3 года назад
RU-vid ripper and Audacity are his new weapons
@ehrichweiss
@ehrichweiss 3 года назад
Arrrr!!!
@leo.girardi
@leo.girardi 3 года назад
Fun Fact: If you buy a physical CD (album) from Amazon, they put up a digital copy that you can listen to or download for free. It is also usually cheaper to buy the CD from them than it is to just buy the digital copy. So pay less, get more. And you have walk away physical media, as well as a downloadable digital copy.
@roxcyn
@roxcyn 3 года назад
I thought they discontinued this feature. 🤔
@leo.girardi
@leo.girardi 3 года назад
@@roxcyn as of? interested to know. I may buy a CD today to find out. Any recommendations?
@Nirrrina
@Nirrrina 3 года назад
I was wondering if anyone did this.
@roxcyn
@roxcyn 3 года назад
@@leo.girardi - It appears they still offer it. It must be sold and shipped by Amazon.
@msmith8966
@msmith8966 2 года назад
It’s been my experience that it only applies to a few CDs they sell. I’ve bought many CDs from them and only 3 of them came with a digital copy.
@daskraut
@daskraut 3 года назад
and that's why uncle daskraut still buys CDs. actually, i already have everything i would ever want to own - and they don't make good music anymore.
@markhonea2461
@markhonea2461 3 года назад
Daskraut- in my opinion you are simply unable to enjoy the direction music has taken. That's understandable. But it's rather disrespectful towards the many (in my opinion) extremely talented musicians in their perhaps early careers. I'm 61, and find very much new music that I find thoroughly enjoyabe and amazing. And, yes, it is certainly different than the music I enjoyed in the 70's etc. If all I had to listen to was the same songs I have heard 10,000 or more times I would stop listening altogether. Enough outta me.
@leo.girardi
@leo.girardi 3 года назад
@@markhonea2461 nothing new under the sun...
@nozrep
@nozrep 3 года назад
who are “they”? Look, I support each person’s right to free expression and the music they like but you’re simply incorrect. May I recommend... Think about the genre of music or type of music you love and then google in “indie {genre} band” and I guarantee you’ll find artists making that type of music. There are so many independent artists, for example, like classic southern rock style (blackberry smoke) or roots style (deslondes) or obscure virtuoso heavy metalists (tosin abasi and others) and many others making insane amazing music today. If you don’t care to that is absolutely perfectly ok that is your preference and that is totally good and fine and well. And even though I like old music better than newer musics usually also, it always irks me when people just write it off as if no more good music is being made at all by the hundreds of thousands of hard working musicians in the world.
@BlankBrain
@BlankBrain 3 года назад
I have most of the music that I used to enjoy (and still do). But I've been expanding my musical tastes, and it's very rewarding. Kind of like trying new foods. If you watch Rick Beato, it's easy to become enthused with listening to different music. I've been buying CDs at Goodwill for $1.99 and polishing and ripping them. I could never otherwise have justified affording the music collection that I now have. I just bought a 512gb microSD so I can keep my albums on my phone (good DAC with jack). Of all the recent technological advancements, I'm still amazed at how many FLAC albums and art fit on a microSD.
@BlankBrain
@BlankBrain 3 года назад
@@markhonea2461 daskraut may have legitimate complaints. The dynamic range of most new music has been over-compressed. Artificial drums and beat suck the life out of music, as does syncing everything to a timing track. It's rare to hear interesting chord combinations. Too many artists use the same writers. As brains age, they can become less flexible. You're right that there's lots of great music being created; it takes some effort to find it.
@mandolinic
@mandolinic 3 года назад
I'd really like to see a law which says that no consumer level legal document can be longer that 7 tweets worth of characters. That would concentrate the minds of the companies to decide what it is they really want to protect, instead of throwing in every possible contingency they can think of.
@lisagrafton2529
@lisagrafton2529 3 года назад
Amen!
@markhonea2461
@markhonea2461 3 года назад
👍👍
@niteriderevo9179
@niteriderevo9179 3 года назад
essentially no longer than one legal size page in roughly 10~12pt font? if so, agreed, bigtime.
@numberyellow
@numberyellow 3 года назад
When we start using tweets as a unit of measurement, i'm jumping into a wood chipper.
@mandolinic
@mandolinic 3 года назад
@@numberyellow I chose 7 because that's the average number of items that a typical human can remember in short term memory, and tweets because we're all used to condensing thoughts into concise messages of this length. If it helps, I'm perfectly happy to convert 7 tweets into more conventional units, such as elephants, blue whales, Olympic size swimming pools, or London buses.
@lostinthefuture9300
@lostinthefuture9300 3 года назад
" why did you bite me? You knew I was a snake!"
@Grayald
@Grayald 3 года назад
Yeah this is also a thing in the gaming industry. Big time. And there's almost never a rule you can point to to explain account termination. It's all kept as vague as possible so that they can punish anyone they don't like.
@catandthesixxness
@catandthesixxness 3 года назад
Or for games that suddenly vanish from your library. Scott Pilgrim vs. the world was a title that vanished from both mine and the hubby's account. This time around we ordered the physical copy. But now there is the problem with always-online services that if they ever go away you will not be able to play the game, even with the physical disc... PS4 and PS5 both check the network when you put a disc in, no network, no game. A problem I will not have with my classic pc games.
@brentfarvors192
@brentfarvors192 3 года назад
@@catandthesixxness That's the NEXT coming lawsuit! If they sell you a game that only runs on a specific system, they HAVE to allow you to play it on that system...
@thevalorousdong7675
@thevalorousdong7675 3 года назад
@@catandthesixxness If a game disappears on Xbox, physical still works. It's not a game problem, it's a Sony problem
@LadyLexyStarwatcher
@LadyLexyStarwatcher 2 года назад
I only have one game I would go pirate on if they tried to remove it, but yeah, you bought it you should be able to use it. (That one game is Skyrim... I have cd copies of Oblivion and Morrowind so no probs there.)
@gregjames2684
@gregjames2684 2 года назад
What gets me is that Steve mentioned also that Apple also diminishes his id so that if he sells the device then the device itself is diminished (effectively destroyed) so then Apple is also destroying his physical property & denying all fair & due process of law , , , Effectively , Apple is acting as a tyrannical overlord over whoever buys their products &/or services , , ,
@chachadodds5860
@chachadodds5860 3 года назад
❤Billy Ocean❤ The problem with these social media platforms, is that they never tell you your account is jeopardy, why it's being scrutinized, or what you did to "violate their terms of service." Nor, do they offer any recourse or appeal process.
@johnme7049
@johnme7049 3 года назад
@ ChaCha Dodds Yeah, Kinda sounds like the way RU-vid has treated MANY of it's content creators.
@gregjames2684
@gregjames2684 2 года назад
Yeh like they are some kind of god with judge jury execution authority saying "to hell with them sinners & losers" without even considering values of actual real transactional dealings with customers in a real brick and mortar store , , , These contemporary mega-corporations needs to phuck off & divest themselves out of existence
@jameskaraganis2569
@jameskaraganis2569 3 года назад
"A song here, a video there, pretty soon it adds up to real money!" -- Senator Dirksen
@denvera1g1
@denvera1g1 3 года назад
Nothing is more annoying that loading up a playlist for a road trip, or your drive to work, only to sit in silence for most of it because you dont have a satellite phone and winding hills and dense trees blocks cell signal This is why i moved off of Google because RU-vid Music didnt have the features of Google Music
@ceterfo
@ceterfo 3 года назад
I'm still bitter about the fact of they just started charging me seven bucks more per month and took away my favorite features. You can migrate all your music BS.
@lobsteroverrun
@lobsteroverrun 3 года назад
As one of “the hipsters”, I do, in fact, buy the vinyl. A lot of the weird stuff I listen to will randomly disappear from streaming services when people start battling over rights or something is so obscure it basically just gets forgotten. Hey, I love what I love. I don’t like it randomly disappearing from existence on me.
@bicyclexx7
@bicyclexx7 3 года назад
🤭
@jupitercyclops6521
@jupitercyclops6521 3 года назад
Had no idea they even had porn on vinyl
@jerrynadler2883
@jerrynadler2883 3 года назад
@@stefanfrankel8157 that theory is disproven by the finding of intact scrolls like the dead sea scrolls
@Warutteri
@Warutteri 3 года назад
I have a great solution for you, get a good VPN and sail the seven seas of the internet under the skull and crossbones flag, if you know what I mean 😉 My lawyer has asked me to say that this is just a bad joke, and that I do not or have I ever participated in any way in piracy of any kind nor will I ever do so.
@Warutteri
@Warutteri 3 года назад
@@jerrynadler2883 the dead see scrolls were preserved only thanks to the remarkably dry conditions in the area they were found in, being in sealed jars and in a cave which shielded then from the elements, and even with all that they're not in good condition and have a lot of parts of them that have just crumbled away or otherwise been damaged beyond repair.
@NorthernS0utherer
@NorthernS0utherer 3 года назад
Screw Apple
@jupitercyclops6521
@jupitercyclops6521 3 года назад
I agree! Tried it a time or 2 myself. Word to the wise; use a de- core first. World of difference.
@christopherbuilder5354
@christopherbuilder5354 3 года назад
As a recording musician, this is a very important topic
@Ron4885
@Ron4885 3 года назад
Agree
@leo.girardi
@leo.girardi 3 года назад
I hate it when I try to buy something from a non-recording musician...
@538wireman
@538wireman 3 года назад
@@mbryson2899 Out of curiosity, exactly how many of the ~large proportion of classmates~ are currently still stuck to you? Also, have you considered trying static discharging dryer sheets? I'm just kidding around. I hope all is well and that you have had a great weekend! 👍😇✌
@tisjester
@tisjester 3 года назад
@@jasonbourne1596 "if I burn a copy of a song or album that I paid for once or more already, is that stealing too?" No that is covered under fair use. As long as it is for your own personal use you are free to make copies and or backups of the music / videos you buy (Non-Commercial use). If you sell the original then you must destroy / stop using the copies / backup. As for games? That can get a bit complicated. You said you lost 2 or 3 steam accounts due to your own hardware failure and subsequent failure to know how to gain access to your steam account.. Well?!?!? Thats kinda on you.. If you were to loose or break physical media they would not GIVE you a new copy. The complicated part with Video Games (and Apple store stuff) is if you loose access to the account you loose access to the stuff on the account. (which is the topic of this video lol) I try to only buy my games as physical media or DRM free. (GOG - Good Old Gamers would have things like Fallout and the expansions ect... in a DRM free version..) You still would NEED to know your account info if you ever had a hardware failure and no backups..
@thegarage5919
@thegarage5919 3 года назад
@@jasonbourne1596 to answer your question quickly, No its not because you paid for it, have the physical media and by copyright law you are entitled to make backups. ***Edit*** Unless your steam account was terminated by Steam you can contact Steam by phone, or web and have your account password changed. They will send you a password change key as well as long as you have the same email address. I've had my Steam password changed several times and have not lost a thing.
@maryrodger5130
@maryrodger5130 3 года назад
Who else here remembers Napster? I had a very nice playlist and fortunately I had downloaded some of the list to my MP3 ('member those), well thank goodness I had done that and used that while I was getting chemo. My Napster list was fn gone and none of us got the memo.
@jeremyhanna3852
@jeremyhanna3852 3 года назад
Napster is still out there its 108$ a year for unlimited music
@shawncool5496
@shawncool5496 3 года назад
? I still have 4000+ songs on a harddrive somewhere.. napster went but the mp3s stayed.. been using diff programs to download for free since then. Nowadays i just use a huge memory card in my phone and a bluetooth speaker
@paulshannon4576
@paulshannon4576 3 года назад
I lived in a remote location with a dialup speed of 16,900 on a good day. Never could use Napster that much. ☹️
@maryrodger5130
@maryrodger5130 3 года назад
@@jeremyhanna3852 Really? Well, in any event that $108 p/y that's not in my budget. I still miss Napster as you can seen but now I've signed up for Jazz Radio since I could get it for free.
@SmallSpoonBrigade
@SmallSpoonBrigade 3 года назад
@@shawncool5496 I wound up deleting my files later on out of principle. The period where Napster was a thing, I bought more music than at any other time in my life, but when they went down, I just about stopped buying completely. Granted, it was a service that wasn't licensed and was breaking the law, but I must not have been the only one to stop buying, because the RIAA hasn't had a year that good in the roughly 20 years since they shut down Napster.
@georgeh6856
@georgeh6856 3 года назад
This is why I don't "buy" things that require an active account. When possible, I buy physical CDs and DVDs (I never did Blu-ray). If they want my DVDs back, they will have to pry them out of my cold, dead hands.
@pauliewalnuts2527
@pauliewalnuts2527 2 года назад
cds and dvds will rot. blue ray menus suck but the picture is better. your best bet is to actually own/have digital files with redundant backups on the same and other devices. a solid state harddrive with flac files of every song and that will out last your cds and DVDs.
@georgeh6856
@georgeh6856 2 года назад
​@@pauliewalnuts2527 Good advice. I tell people to keep multiple copies in multiple formats of all their media, especially of personal files which cannot be replaced. One good thing about DVDs (which do degrade over time) is that even if a DVD is in the drive at the time a disk drive/SSD fails, your cloud storage provider gets hacked, or you get a ransomware virus, the DVD cannot be corrupted or altered (until it "rots").
@georgejones3526
@georgejones3526 3 года назад
Apple has been reducing functionality all along. I have an IPad Retina for which they stopped updating the IOS. That wouldn’t be so bad except they started disabling apps that I had, saying the updated apps would no longer work on my IOS. You also could not get any new ones. And there is nothing wrong with the device, they have simply software obsoleted it.
@georgejones3526
@georgejones3526 2 года назад
@@samueldavila2156 The Ipad is the only Apple product I own.
@jlc5809
@jlc5809 3 года назад
I am not aware of any corporations that are not evil and out of control! If you buy a cd or dvd you can sell it, give it away, loan it and it is also part of your estate. You should be able to do the same thing with digital content. It's about time someone sued apple over this and I wish him luck!!!
@adamdnewman
@adamdnewman 3 года назад
That or full refund + interest becouse if people steal they are punished why not rotten apple
@kain0m
@kain0m 3 года назад
The typical issue of buying a product vs. buying a license. Where the corporations declare that a license is just as good as the actual product, until they decide it isn't. And sadly, it is getting more and more difficult to avoid the "licensing" model...
@ObscureStuff420
@ObscureStuff420 3 года назад
This is why you download mp3s rather than buy them. You can support the artists other ways, like buying merchandise and concert tickets. I prefer buying record albums with nice covers and framing them on the wall. Or buy the CDs and rip them. BTW I have that same 45 somewhere, I loved that song as a little kid lol
@kindanyume
@kindanyume 3 года назад
Indeed I even went as far as to had a specific band $10 in cash one time and told them it was for a copy of X and that this way they get 10x the $ they would if I bought it in the store and the RIAA/labels etc and other vultures fin ripping them off I will forever remember the smiles I got from the band and was given both signed copies of various stuff they had on hand but was given stage seats This was back in the 1st yrs of MP3s (to which i did a bunch of work) and I occasionally speak with them to this day
@Mikeydude001
@Mikeydude001 3 года назад
Did you know you can actually buy AND download digital versions of music? There are websites for that. If I can't find a group or song on one of those websites, I buy the CD. 7Digital is one of those websites.
@KlodFather
@KlodFather 3 года назад
Caribbean Queen was on the same album and are great songs. Loved his music and that time in life.
@LDuncanKelly
@LDuncanKelly 3 года назад
Let me guess, crApple caught him watching Louis Rossmann's RU-vid videos... 8-)
@jerrynadler2883
@jerrynadler2883 3 года назад
exactly. apple would probably deactivate for something petty or political like joining the right to repair movement.
@johnree6106
@johnree6106 3 года назад
Or even music that is too conservative
@braxtonnelson7422
@braxtonnelson7422 3 года назад
I bought my first "computer" in 1984... it was a Commodore 64 and it was just enough to get me hooked. Actually, my father worked for the government starting around 1960 and he was an early user of computers. He worked at the Pensacola Naval Air Station, and he took my sister and I on a tour of the building in which he worked. The computers there looked just like the ones in the old movies, with punch cards flying around and huge reel-to-reel tape drives. The place was kept very cold and I remember all of the ladies (key punch operators) were wearing sweaters! I asked my Dad what all of that computing power was used for... he told me that the entire building full of computers was used to keep up with dry-goods inventory for the Navy! No double-naught spy stuff there! Later on, around 1990 I bought my first real computer. It was an AST Research (later to become Toshiba) set up with the desktop CPU, 14" greenscale monitor, and dot matrix printer... all for the low, low price of $2100! It had a 210 MB hard drive and 4 MB of RAM! I am now on my 7th or 8th computer, and it seems as though all I do is watch Steve Lehto videos on RU-vid!
@CantankerousDave
@CantankerousDave 3 года назад
210MB? Fancy. I had an Amiga 2000 in 1991 with a "huge" 50MB drive (also coming from a C64). Try to explain a size that small to kids these days... Or that we once used audio cassettes to store data.
@braxtonnelson7422
@braxtonnelson7422 3 года назад
@@CantankerousDave I remember buying another 4 MB RAM card, and being amazed at how much better and faster that computer was! It ran on Windows 3.1, which was the hottest ticket on android systems back then, but I still had to learn to run some DOS programs to clean up and defrag the hard drive! I still have some floppy disks somewhere...
@braxtonnelson7422
@braxtonnelson7422 3 года назад
@@CantankerousDave When I bought that first computer, Dad told me that it had more computing power than the entire building he worked in!
@CrankyBeach
@CrankyBeach 2 года назад
@@braxtonnelson7422 And in the context of the mid 1990s movie Apollo 13, I learned that astronauts flew to the moon and back with less on-board computing power than the average (then) modern car....
@douglasbrittain7018
@douglasbrittain7018 Год назад
The good old dot matrix printer. I got one in 1985 and loved it. Made that screeching noise as the pins strike the ribbon on the paper. I loved the way the characters appeared on the paper. Very relaxing to read.
@Vanye111
@Vanye111 3 года назад
This is why I still purchase physical media for things I really like.
@BlackJesus8463
@BlackJesus8463 2 года назад
You can back it up.
@nelskrogh3238
@nelskrogh3238 3 года назад
Don't feel too old Steve, I recall having to feed IBM cards into a computer to get it to work.
@BlankBrain
@BlankBrain 3 года назад
Don't forget running the job in the middle of the night when the load was light so the turn-around time to debug and re-run was acceptable.
@mandolinic
@mandolinic 3 года назад
When I was a student, I spent three years running jobs on a computer that I _never_ saw! Punch cards in -> Green lined paper out. No idea what happened in between ;-) And my degree subjects? Physics and computing!
@Bobs-Wrigles5555
@Bobs-Wrigles5555 3 года назад
@@mandolinic1979 -Try being one of the poor suckers making those holes in the cards to run your own little "program" to get a return on your greenlined paper that says error card No.x command invalid -and try again in the next batch on the next night
@vincentgarzoli3197
@vincentgarzoli3197 3 года назад
@@mandolinic Green and White and Tractor Feed Paper! And don't forget the dot-matrix print and ribbon cartridges!
@mandolinic
@mandolinic 3 года назад
@@vincentgarzoli3197 I haven't seen green music-ruled computer paper for years.
@falarn
@falarn 3 года назад
Back when iTunes was first launched they had a policy in place where you could only link your account to three computers or devices, when you had used up those three devices you could no longer get access to your account from any other device but those 3.
@nigelcox1451
@nigelcox1451 3 года назад
From the same company that encourages you to replace your device annually?
@thevalorousdong7675
@thevalorousdong7675 3 года назад
@@nigelcox1451 Encourage? More like borderline force
@DocNo27
@DocNo27 3 года назад
That’s still the case - you have a limited number of devices that you can have authorized at a time but it is more than three. And back then you could clear that list and then re-authorize the machines you want. At least now you can remove individual machines without having to clear the entire list.
@sikend6674
@sikend6674 3 года назад
@@DocNo27 to expand on this its 5 now. the whole concept is a relic of the early days of iTunes so you weren't passing around accounts and dumping all your music onto old iPods. i cant tell you how many times ive had to dump old devices off of mine.
@DocNo27
@DocNo27 3 года назад
@@sikend6674 I didn't say 5 because I recently had to clear a couple of older devices off of my list and there were more than 5 authorized ones listed. I don't think iOS devices count towards the limit, but computers sure do. It would be interesting to see if the limit still applies to iPods. I wonder if my old ones will still power up :p
@kathybryla3581
@kathybryla3581 3 года назад
I'm 63 years old i have kept all my albums since I was 16 and my aunt gave me all her 45s when she was young my dad then had all his 8 track tapes so I have all those too and and all cassette tapes and not to mention some reel tapes its guite a collection
@Foolish188
@Foolish188 3 года назад
Except for the reel tapes, the others have to be shoveled off the free table at the dump. I usually only take CDs and DVDs and my collection is overflowing.
@kathybryla3581
@kathybryla3581 3 года назад
@@Foolish188 yeah I have at 200 rubber made containers of cds and dvds especially when the kids were younger all the walt Disney one one of my exs years ago worked setting up band equipment for concerts so have alot of songs of original stuff I guess vyou can some hot underground stuff just stuff in music
@lostinthefuture9300
@lostinthefuture9300 3 года назад
@@Foolish188 push them off the table this way.buy a cd, cassette and record.dont open for twenty years and see which two still play and which one is blank.
@nigelcox1451
@nigelcox1451 3 года назад
@Kathy Bryla That made me smile. I'm also 63, but have never really got 'into' music, just listened on radio. My lifetime's collection of music is 22 CDs and 17 cassettes.
@IggyStardust1967
@IggyStardust1967 3 года назад
Always keep a backup on a hard drive not connected to your computer.
@paulshannon4576
@paulshannon4576 3 года назад
Or several.
@simplywonderful449
@simplywonderful449 3 года назад
Burn 'em on CDs or DVDs - I have my entire collection on multiple media types, not just hard disks, as those can fail or be susceptible to magnetic erasure or failure.
@herculesbrofister265
@herculesbrofister265 3 года назад
@@simplywonderful449 use SSDs...tho i think your worry about magnetic interference is just 80s era nuclear Holocaust paranoia, since an EMP pulse is pretty much what it would take. Mobile DJs have laptops next to huge subwoofers, people who home record have PCs next to 4x12s or 4x10s.
@wghardy5577
@wghardy5577 2 года назад
@@herculesbrofister265 why not paper punch cards
@Enjoymentboy
@Enjoymentboy 3 года назад
Don't worry. I am sure apple will find a way to justify this as a new security feature to protect his privacy.
@MetalheadAndNerd
@MetalheadAndNerd 3 года назад
Apple doesn't have to. Apple fans will do the defense and reasoning.
@seanmacdonald5255
@seanmacdonald5255 3 года назад
I remember the days of installing from floppies. I bought Microsoft Office and it seems like it was 28 floppies. CorelDRAW! with clipart and fonts was 31 floppies. Not fun. Re-installing after a crash or on a new computer was an adventure that was not always successful. Floppies were not stable in storage and were wiped if they got near a magnet. Thanks for reminding me of how well we have it now.
@Elliandr
@Elliandr 3 года назад
I remember my first and only time buying a digital song. I only owned it for a single day. A virus damaged the DRM file and I learned that I could not recover it. I also apparently didn't have the right to re-download it. I learned then and there that a digital purchase is not the same thing as physically owning something, so from then on I would buy CDs and rip them myself. When the iPad came out I was already busy using an MP3 player and didn't see the value in it. Learning about the DRM immediately convinced me never to do it, and I never did. To this day I will only ever purchase something physically - be it games or music. I know others who lost thousands of dollars over the years though. Sometimes a virus, sometimes an account being terminated for one reason or another, and in one case because the company decided not to support the store anymore rendering all existing purchases gone.
@geraldflorence1220
@geraldflorence1220 3 года назад
THIS. This is the reason why I refuse to buy "virtual" property. I refuse to buy a kindle book or ebook. I refuse to buy movies, music, books from online services where I can't get a physical copy. If I buy anything, it has to have a physical copy. So yes, I have a large collection of books. I haven't bought many movies and very little music cds. I've heard about Amazon's pecadillos of getting into arguments with authors and then banning said authors causing ebooks people have bought being recalled and removed. Add that to Apple's case.
@groermaik
@groermaik 3 года назад
Looks like the hundo, unfolded, is still across the roof of the red viper, on the top left side of the main cabinet. 1.7k+.
@KAnneMeinel
@KAnneMeinel 3 года назад
You also can't transfer the songs to your heirs, children, etc when you die.
@coptertim
@coptertim 3 года назад
I ran into that same problem with Barns and Noble. I had an old Nook reader and purchased books through their site. When I tried to open one on my tablet it was locked. To read MY book, I needed their device with a valid credit card on file. That was my last digital book or B&N purchase. I like hardcover books better anyway!!
@FuzzyMarineVet
@FuzzyMarineVet 3 года назад
I get permission to download a music video once in a while from my favorite artists, usually after buying the CD that contains the song. That way I can watch and listen even when my internet is down.
@andreyv116
@andreyv116 3 года назад
This is why an option for DRM-free downloads is important
@brentfarvors192
@brentfarvors192 3 года назад
The "physical" equivalent of this would be like leasing part of your land to a farmer, watching them till, and plant the seeds, then preventing them from harvesting the crops because their "tractors too loud"...
@uberian22
@uberian22 Год назад
And if there was a noise pollution clause in the lease then this would be totally legal. If you fail to hold up your end of the bargain the other party is completely within their right to terminate said contract.
@robertsteich7362
@robertsteich7362 3 года назад
I have a few albums, mostly sound tracks of movies. That are no longer available on the streaming service. Despite I can still click on the album and such, I cannot play them any more. Unless I was able to download it before it was no longer available. Of course how would I know if or when that would happen.
@GOAP68
@GOAP68 3 года назад
Tried Amazon Prime and enjoyed their playlist. Within a few weeks my favorite list started changing as songs were removed from the Amazon Prime library. Went back to my tape/ cd collection and never looked back.
@ScubaSteveCanada
@ScubaSteveCanada 3 года назад
I heard the same thing happening with my Spotify lists ... at least I use the free service.
@richardcranium5839
@richardcranium5839 3 года назад
i played a country song bacwards once. my truck still runs my dog didnt die mama didnt go to the trainstation to pick me up from jail.........
@richardcranium5839
@richardcranium5839 3 года назад
the devil didnt go to georgia he stayed in d.c.
@adamdnewman
@adamdnewman 3 года назад
@@richardcranium5839 Why would he leave DC?
@SusanBassi
@SusanBassi 3 года назад
Lol thank you for showing the record and using it to show and tell these complex issues
@stevelehto
@stevelehto 3 года назад
Show & Tell is necessary for the young folk to know what I am rambling on about.
@SusanBassi
@SusanBassi 3 года назад
@@stevelehto I know , I would hold up a 45 if I had one!
@SusanBassi
@SusanBassi 3 года назад
@@stevelehto I do have an old phone and phonebook - they have no idea how to use it!
@memyname1771
@memyname1771 3 года назад
Years ago, my first reaction to the software license agreements was that if I do not own the software and I no longer need it, where is my prepaid mailer to return the disks and documentation to the owner for disposal? I'm sure you have noticed that when you "buy" a new car, many charge subscription fees to use installed features. This is an insidious way to ensure that the majority of the people continue giving their money to major corporations, even when the corporations do not continue to provide something new in exchange for the payments. How about free online photo storage offered by Nikon a few years ago? All my photos that I had put there vanished (fortunately, I had local copies also). Microsoft, at one time allowed people to create personal websites. Everything vanished. How long before everything is "free" cloud storage is locked up unless you pay? If you don't store locally, sooner or later you will lose it.
@SirBrass
@SirBrass 2 года назад
This reminds me of a farside-like comic on a professor's door back in the early 00s. The image is of an airliner cockpit as the plane is plummeting towards the ground and the pilots are freaking out, and on the glass cockpit screens is a messages, "Your version of Microsoft Flight has expired". 🤣
@avi8r66
@avi8r66 3 года назад
I am back to buying cd's for music. I have apple stuff, and have bought songs and even albums via apple, but yeah, if i move to android i lose that content from apple. Same for any other streaming service. So yeah, I am back to buying the albums even though it costs more when it's an album I want or artist I want to support. Gary Numan is still making amazing music!
@MakeItWithJim
@MakeItWithJim 3 года назад
Fact Attack: Gary Numan is older than Gary Oldman
@avi8r66
@avi8r66 3 года назад
@@MakeItWithJim And I appreciate them both
@robertjordan1596
@robertjordan1596 3 года назад
Actually you can put iTunes on an Android device and still have your Apple content,
@avi8r66
@avi8r66 3 года назад
@@robertjordan1596 good to know
@Bob-Lob-Law
@Bob-Lob-Law 3 года назад
To have and to hold from this day forward or until you change your mind .
@easternwoods4378
@easternwoods4378 3 года назад
Most airline flight crews depend on their tablets for everything. Imagine being at 40,000 feet over the middle of the Pacific and your account gets canceled. Imagine the Pentagon in the middle of an operation and Apple says "Your account has been canceled"
@furyofbongos
@furyofbongos 3 года назад
They have paper backups of everything. They can smash all their ipads with a hammer and they'd be fine.
@BrandiaTaamu
@BrandiaTaamu 3 года назад
LOL! I used to make those packages of floppy disks 🤣🤣🤣
@NR-nf1il
@NR-nf1il 3 года назад
I would love to know how this turns out period when they settle it could you tell us about it
@ShawnLuke
@ShawnLuke 3 года назад
I purchased music on Google Music. When they shut down, I downloaded all the music to my computer because I didn't want to move to RU-vid Music.
@kindanyume
@kindanyume 3 года назад
YT music sux monkey balls andthe forced change on google minis etc has been a massive downgrade and the fact that owners still cant select amzn music etc as default is bullshit thats why I'm adding my talents to mycroft
@ehrichweiss
@ehrichweiss 3 года назад
I swear, I have no idea why Google did that. I downloaded all of my stuff but holy crap they shot themselves in the foot.
@28bull
@28bull 3 года назад
I have my 8 Track and some tapes.. Back in the 70s my Contracts Prof did lengthy diatribes' on contracts of adhesion
@mandolinic
@mandolinic 3 года назад
"contracts of adhesion" That sound a sticky subject.
@rsmith4339
@rsmith4339 3 года назад
That 25K worth of stuff doesn't exist outside of notionally within Apples service . There is absolutely no way to " return it to him " without using Apples' services .
@RobertBatina
@RobertBatina 3 года назад
I totally understand ... Amazon is what I use when I want to purchase music as well, because as far as I know, when you download the MP3s they are yours to play and store and save as you choose, and they don’t stop working if you lose your account or cancel your Prime. The songs that got me started with my purchase “phobia” heh were the songs on an old Bob Ralston Christmas album, one that we listened to when I was a kid opening presents from under the tree... and like you said, the sentimental value, I “just wanted to own own them” 😌
@SailingYachtSaltyLass
@SailingYachtSaltyLass 3 года назад
A whole new legal landscape for you Steve - Apple Asset Forfeiture 😄😄
@craigcarter400
@craigcarter400 3 года назад
Probably ran by the Apple PD
@simplywonderful449
@simplywonderful449 3 года назад
You're a masochist, I tell you! ;-) Even in the late 70s I never had to use THAT many diskettes!
@sdbackout5247
@sdbackout5247 3 года назад
I was an early user of Audible an I lost some audiobooks. I think some they don't have anymore others.....?
@GreycloudStudios
@GreycloudStudios 3 года назад
I remember hearing a story from the early days of iCloud about a Greatful Dead fan who had digitized all his audio tape from all the concerts he had attended for many, many years into wav files on his Apple Confuser. He thought it would be a good idea to backup all these very large files to the then new iCloud. However, Apple in their infinite wisdom not only converted all the files he uploaded to the cloud to the smallest MP3 file size possible, but, then, replaced those songs with the commercially released versions. As if this was not enough, Apple, then, took things a step further and went remotely down into the hard drive of his confuser and did the same thing. Fortunately, he had all his original tapes from all those Greatful Dead concerts, but all the work he put into getting the highest quality digital file for each song was lost. From the story I heard, he sued Apple for not only a Dollar Amount, but also required them to recreate all the digital files that they deleted. While I know that he won his lawsuit, I was unable to quickly find anything online that talks about this incident.
@sanansa4567
@sanansa4567 3 года назад
that is why I haven't been purchasing as many ebooks on Amazon. The Kindle app was upgraded and it no longer loads the ebooks I purchased already. I have to use the Amazon cloud reader service in order to view the books..so if I ever cancel my Amazon account, I will no longer have access to any of the content I purchased.
@jdlucree
@jdlucree 3 года назад
no it has not? i put other books into my kindle with calibre library all the time? or are you talking about it no longer loads your kindle purchases? cause the device might be the problem
@kindanyume
@kindanyume 3 года назад
thats why i refuse to support any of that shit and the only ebooks i have are drm striped pdfs now
@marcuspettersson2101
@marcuspettersson2101 3 года назад
I have had the same trouble with my amazon kindle and my calibre program being unable to use the newest DRM version on the books I purchase, happily I recently resolved it and can now continue loading my books into my calibre library for safe keeping, you need to reinstall Kindle on pc back to version 1.17 and install apprentice alf's newest de-drm tool into calibre just google it
@challenger-rta3761
@challenger-rta3761 3 года назад
Dude you forget about 8 track, cassette? reel to reel and DAT. I keep all my music and videos in my split level head.
@PInk77W1
@PInk77W1 3 года назад
He forgot 8 track on purpose. LoL
@challenger-rta3761
@challenger-rta3761 3 года назад
@@PInk77W1 Your right I never could get the right track.
@PInk77W1
@PInk77W1 3 года назад
@@challenger-rta3761 I barely remember them. I just know they were hated. Lol.
@shekharmoona544
@shekharmoona544 3 года назад
I thought that was Eddie Murphy's record. 🤣🤣🤣 My girl likes to party all the time! 🤣🤣
@frankyflowers
@frankyflowers 3 года назад
would it be legal to use a line out recorder to record streaming songs? its legal to record the normal radio.
@ve2cii
@ve2cii 3 года назад
I find it funny what you were saying about loading/installing Word from floppies. I installed Linux "way back then" from 40 floppies.
@f.f.s.d.o.a.7294
@f.f.s.d.o.a.7294 3 года назад
And you haven't had to reboot since.
@CantankerousDave
@CantankerousDave 3 года назад
The most I ever had to deal with was the Video Toaster, with 20 floppies. You had to keep your fingers crossed that you wouldn't get a read error on disk 19...
@cocoachaos1321
@cocoachaos1321 3 года назад
You don't have a turn table? I have a victrola. Try getting good records for that.
@VygerST
@VygerST 3 года назад
I bought 4 big boxes of 78’s at an estate auction last year. I had to get help putting them in my truck because they were so heavy.
@GSP-76
@GSP-76 3 года назад
I read about this case and am very interested...glad you are talking about it because it's extremely important in our digital age.
@gordonshumway7239
@gordonshumway7239 3 года назад
I am soooo with you Steve. I’m the same way with music. And for reasons like this story, I still buy only physical copies of any media and transfer the content to my devices. I bought my first LP in 1964, Meet the Beatles. Still have it, along with every other Beatles recording. Record collections are a thing. It’s good to know you have them, even if you never listen to the physical product. Also, an almost identical issue exists with Cable Companies and Movies. I can “buy movies” from Verizon FiOS, and “own them forever”, according to the Promo. I once asked what happens if I switch Cable Providers. Answer: Forever means, as long as you are a Verizon FiOS customer. Switch to Comcast and kiss your Forever Content goodbye. I don’t buy movies from FiOS ...
@NipkowDisk
@NipkowDisk 3 года назад
IIRC I have the 12" EP of Billy Ocean's famous hit buried somewhere in the bowels of my house. Great song.
@bicyclexx7
@bicyclexx7 3 года назад
You will own nothing and be happy
@aetch77
@aetch77 3 года назад
"Only the hipsters buy vinyl" - did you just call me a "hipster"?
@taggedzi
@taggedzi 3 года назад
I wonder if police might consider $24k worth of physical media (CD's/DVD's/BlueRay/Etc) to be suspect and subject to civil forfeiture? LOL.
@cocoachaos1321
@cocoachaos1321 3 года назад
It SAYS buy at apple as well. I got a new ipad and thought I would have to buy the music again, but at the apple store they told me. You bought it, it's yours forever.
@ytcommentor
@ytcommentor 3 года назад
Forever as long as you continue to use their products and don't somehow get your account terminated.
@brentfarvors192
@brentfarvors192 3 года назад
They lied!!!
@niteriderevo9179
@niteriderevo9179 3 года назад
hence why the lawsuit over 25k usd of songs, apps and the like due to the termination of the ID those purchases were associated to, they do NOT have the right to terminate access to that if they so wish to with their saying you own it, period. i personally don't have anything on my apple ID, save for one app, Teamspeak.. all my songs are physically stored on AT LEAST two harddisks that i own.
@confabulouscruisers
@confabulouscruisers 3 года назад
Forever unless apple loses the rights to use it. Then they quietly delete it from your library.
@brentfarvors192
@brentfarvors192 3 года назад
@@confabulouscruisers Which, brings up an entirely new issue with digital content...With this ruling, brings the stipulation that they will either have to allow you to download the content before removal, OR reimburse their customers if that were to happen...Thankfully, I wasn't DUMB enough to fall for their tricks! If I BUY SOMETHING, I MUST physically possess said item(s)...
@mattatwar
@mattatwar 3 года назад
I buy from places that let you download the MP3 files, backup up and maintain a copy myself.
@ThatHomelessScrubbalo
@ThatHomelessScrubbalo 3 года назад
When you hit "buy" on your device, could it be said that we're "buying" the lease/license agreement?
@ThenitetimeGamer
@ThenitetimeGamer 3 года назад
Something I'm not understanding. You haven't "Downloaded" the music you purchased on Amazon? I have bought 33 songs so far and I downloaded them to my computer then loaded them to my phone. So even if Amazon suddenly disappear I'd still have my songs. Or am I mistaken?
@kevinstanton5998
@kevinstanton5998 3 года назад
Please do follow ups on this on when more is available
@Feslmogh
@Feslmogh 3 года назад
This is why I DOWNLOAD non-DRM and make BACKUPS!
@georgemaragos2378
@georgemaragos2378 3 года назад
Hi All Steve - i recall the actor Bruce Willis has issues with apple on leaving his itunes collection in his will Does not the apple account also control software used on apple devices, i have a older iphone, ipad and macbook but none of them have additional software on them - what happens if you buy microsoft office or photoshop via a apple id - are they lost and you are locked out now??
@jamesrabkin7571
@jamesrabkin7571 3 года назад
You can absolutely download the mp3 files from either Amazon and Apple if you so desire. I ALWAYS download the file to a hard drive that is automatically backed up.
@alexanderislet6843
@alexanderislet6843 3 года назад
I feel we might see this go to supreme court. Checking back in 1 year
@brentfarvors192
@brentfarvors192 3 года назад
Shouldn't make it that far! This one SHOULD BE a no brainer! They either allow permanent access to all accounts, or give your $ back!
@BlankBrain
@BlankBrain 3 года назад
Current court would likely side with business.
@simplywonderful449
@simplywonderful449 3 года назад
@@BlankBrain Especially the 9th Circuit, well-known to be on the opposite side of common sense!
@werefrogofassyria6609
@werefrogofassyria6609 3 года назад
This is why The Werefrog always immediately turned the song into an mp3 not directly tied to the purchased file. The Werefrog don't want Apple to be able to delete the thing. If The Werefrog knew how to do that with downloaded "purchased" videos, The Werefrog would have done the same thing with all videos as well.
@darkstorminc
@darkstorminc 3 года назад
The werefrog needs to learn more, video can be digitized in ways seen and unseen.
@snoopdogie187
@snoopdogie187 3 года назад
I was doing videos a long time ago. I actually forgot how to do it now because its been so long and everything is updated. It wouldn't take long to learn how to do it if you really put energy into learning it.
@BlankBrain
@BlankBrain 3 года назад
@@snoopdogie187 It's getting harder to find blank VHS tapes. :)
@kindanyume
@kindanyume 3 года назад
"If The Werefrog knew how to do that with downloaded "purchased" videos, The Werefrog would have done the same thing with all videos as well."
@JodyBruchon
@JodyBruchon 2 года назад
When I pay to buy a piece of media, especially if it's software with product activation, I pirate a copy as well. Adobe famously killed their activation servers for older versions of all their software and anyone who bought, say, Illustrator CS2 would never be able to reinstall that software because it was technically impossible to do so. Adobe did release a bunch of activation-disabled versions on their site for free on the honor system to remedy this, so I'll at least give them that credit, but the point remains: if I buy it, I will make damned sure that I own it, whether they want me to own it or not.
@MarkReed-smokindeist
@MarkReed-smokindeist 3 года назад
Nice thing about Amazon, you can download it and keep a copy. You can even burn them on to disk but a lot of newer car stereos will take a USB thumb drive which you can absolutly pack with music depending on the size of the drive. This is useful if you drive through cellular dead zones.
@PsychoticusRex
@PsychoticusRex 3 года назад
Apple's good at confusing terms of sale, lease and license. Since no one reads the "fine print" since it isn't written in common language; and when you get something on their service the button says "buy" / "purchase" they're obviously not wanting too remind any customers that they're selling licenses. That's fraud.
@gregjames2684
@gregjames2684 2 года назад
And I say THAT'S wrong ! But its also happening to all devices made for 3G networking , they won't work without the connection , effectively destroying paid-for property !
@uberian22
@uberian22 Год назад
So your argument is if someone refuses to read a contract they cannot be held to said contract? That seems very ridiculous and definitely unenforceable.
@Flynghi
@Flynghi 3 года назад
Lol jackie chiles!! I respect you even more now steve
@numberyellow
@numberyellow 3 года назад
lol, i was wondering if anyone else got the reference.
@amyx231
@amyx231 3 года назад
Lawyer dog by request, eh? Can I request a half hour consultation with the canine barrister? Lol.
@KylleinMacKellerann
@KylleinMacKellerann 3 года назад
To the Cavemen, "What you can carry is what you may own". I think the Cavemen had the right idea.
@BeardMan01
@BeardMan01 3 года назад
I have all of my music backed up and I NEVER keep any of it on iTunes because they encrypt it.
@KlodFather
@KlodFather 3 года назад
This is why I buy my music from the Russians... Because I get a real MP3 or FLAC or OGG or other tangible file that I own FOREVER! And they are less expensive LOL
@jasongarrett5437
@jasongarrett5437 3 года назад
It will be interesting to see what the future will bring: “You don’t own that car you bought, you just own the licensing agreement to use the car until you breach the clause that says we suspect you of doing something we don’t like. You know, like how your house works.”
@horroRomantic444
@horroRomantic444 3 года назад
I think there is a big value in buying physical media (CD/DVD) and ripping them to your computer or storage device so that you could access anytime you want it without the internet. A CD in a thrift store is about $1 to $4 which is a way better value than $0.99 to $1.29 per song or even higher for movies.
@BRM202
@BRM202 3 года назад
VPN + Bit torrent = every song and album ever made for free and you keep the music forever.
@fractal4284
@fractal4284 3 года назад
@@jckdnls9292 not the same depending on what site you use the compression can make the audio less quality
@christopherbuilder5354
@christopherbuilder5354 3 года назад
That way the artists and recording engineers get $0, which is even worse than what they get from Apple, Amazon, Spotify er cetera. Music is made by people and costs money to produce. You should pay for it. How would you feel if your work would be consumed without any compensation to you?
@frankyflowers
@frankyflowers 3 года назад
@@mike-uw6wt if you record the RU-vid video or streams isn't it like using a vcr or tape recorder for a tv and radio? those went to court already.
@asureaskie
@asureaskie 3 года назад
VPNs can be subpoenaed. Use TOR first, and find a VPN that'll take payment in crypto. TOR>VPN>BitTorrent. Slow, but actually safe.
@nemonada3501
@nemonada3501 3 года назад
This is why I have a big problem with subscription services including things like cloud storage where they can change the terms and conditions at any time regarding the access to your own data. On a side note, check what Pioneer DJ/AlphaTheta have done with their DJ platform RekordBox. What was previously a one-off purchase now requires subscriptions. So all of these people that were using the equipment they'd already paid the fees for now have to pay on a monthly basis to use the stuff they own.
@andyp5899
@andyp5899 2 года назад
Any update to this story after nine months? Or is it still in process
@frankyflowers
@frankyflowers 3 года назад
would it be legal to record your videos on a vcr?
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