I think apple did this on purpose they know if they start high they'll only have to go down a little for the next version and people will think it's worth it
@@giorgiocarinci728 a lot of people who are upper middle class would have enough money but wouldn't get it unless they thought it's a not terrible deal
While I love my Quest 2, and I don’t plan on getting the vision, I can’t help but say that the comparison is unfair. The vision is an AR device and the Quest 3 is VR. They serve very different purposes.
That’s just like, not true. This is not an example of Apple price inflation unlike many other things. It’s basically impossible to get the price under what it is at this current stage.
he doesn't mention how you can do a thousand times more things with a quest 3, but all you can do with the apple vision pro is watch youtube and play apple games for SEVEN TIMES THE COST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just got my Quest 3 and holy crap it feels so futuristic and sharp. I have no idea why you’d pay $3,500 for essentially the exact same thing without games lol.
But that analogy doesn't work because the Quest 3 exists. A better analogy woild be Apple released a year 2000 flat screen in 2023 and making people think it's worth it.
As a Quest 3 user the vision just doesn’t compel me much. Like no good games, no controllers atleast yet so they can’t port the games. I know it’s not for gaming but I don’t need my twitter feed floating around and web browser. The quest can connect to the Mac or PC and you can work on it but I don’t like that much. I’m just not convinced that there is all that much to do that wouldn’t be easier on a phone or Mac. No hate but.. 🤷 the Future looks cool and I love what it can do for the VR space in general (hopefully Apple doesn’t give up).
Meta Quest is currently a toy vs high quality and resolution of a very expensive, heavy; Apple Vision Pro. Choose your poison. But we all should be excited about what doors have been open. This is the future!
Just like if you were to compare an iPhone 15 Pro Max (or a Galaxy S24 etc), vs a half decent $300 android phone (or used/older iPhone). In the end of the day, they're the same thing, but the expensive one is faster, with better cameras and screens. Just like with the VR sets.
Professional criticism *quest 3 is more comfortable, no wire to a pocket attachment, is basically the same except it does a lot more, cost 7 times less.* *apple vision is less comfortable, has a wired attachment that requires a pocket, but it does have a cool screen on the outside of the headset and it looks cool, but for the cost of one apple headset you can get SEVEN of the much better quest 3 headsets. Or, just one and have a few thousand extra dollars for well, a lot of things.*
Nah. I’m an iPhone user, and I have a Quest. Quest has wider FOV, and PCVR support. If Apple made a headset with as wide an FOV, OLED displays, pancake lenses, and native PCVR support, Controller support, and without the unusable Bluetooth latency Quest has so AirPods actually work, I’d consider it. Will probably never happen though, because Apple doesn’t like playing well with Windows, so i highly doubt they would cooperate with Valve. (Typed this on an iPhone 15, wearing AirPod pros, and Apple Watch S7, so I’m fairly deep in apples ecosystem, and I would not buy an AVP, over a quest.)
The 3500$ one you are exclusively paying for a ubisoft style HUD, while the metaquest 3 you get the ubisoft HUD plus actual VR gaming while literally paying a fraction of the price.
Not to mention, the Quest 3 also comes with the ability to play actual games! The Vision pro is better in passthrough of course, but that really only matters if you plan on using it in public/all the time, something which many would consider to be dystopian anyways
@@Koopkiris well when it’s a computer which it is, you’re working with a virtual desktop and music is playing. You have your playlist from Apple Music. You could also just chill with your music playlist in an immersive environment. On the go, many use cases as well.
I would submit that you can read a phone / watch on Vision Pro and not on quest. Definitely not using mine in public. Meta could dramatically close the gap by making the quest more spatial computing focused. However, it’s a catch-22 since they’re selling it at a loss to gain revenue through games and social experiences.
For me I think that’s better bcz yung can make a bigger battery pack, easily replaceable, and it doesn’t add to the weight of the vr headset when wearing it
The fact that the Quest 3 is being compared to this "bank denter" says a lot about the Quest 3. The Vision Pro should be compared to similarly priced vr's.
It was reported shortly before the Vision Pro released that Meta was hoping for the Vision Pro to succeed and this is a big reason why. The Quest 3 is a budget option that can do so many of the things the Vision Pro can do. Also, like. It can play games.
Apple by the virtue of being Apple got way more coverage for their VR headset than everyone else combined so perhaps Meta was hoping this would make more people care about this device category.
@@username-mb2qhNot just that. It's about the price. A $3,500 headset getting positive reviews means that Meta will try releasing their own ultra high-end headset for at least $2,000 to appeal to hardcore PCVR gamers.
@@MoChuang343 No, not really. A MacBook is a few hundred bucks and is an open platform where you can install anything you want. Maybe when the Vision line matures. But for now, I don't think that's a good comparison. It's more like a Cybertruck vs. a sensible hybrid.
I seriously don't see the need for the Apple vision compared to the quest 3. The price alone is ridiculous and the quest can still do more? Apple sheep really need to look in the mirror.
The only reason the vision pro is so expensive is because they crammed it full of powerful components. The resolution and performance is significantly better than a quest 3, but there isn't really anything that takes advantage of that power and I doubt a lotta games are gonna come over to the vision pro since it's market is already so small and it doesn't even have controllers.
@@anthonymendez5072 even with the m2 and what ever the other 1 is even if all games were ported over it wont be able to run them at native resolution..
@@anthonymendez5072other than the displays and speakers being a tiny bit better, nothing else is useful. Most idiotic way of spending 4 grand on something, unless you rich rich and buy it for the experience.
after seeing this, what meta did at that price is really incredible. Like you can buy 7 quest 3 for the price of 1 vision pro. It's like one of the shittiest value proposition
The reason the quest 3 is so cheap is that it’s heavily subsidized on gaming / social / ads. It’s really a $1,000 product and, in that context, the value props are similar.
Imagine paying 4000 to use social media and watch movies, the quest 3 can do about 80% more than the Vision Pro, can’t even watch 360 videos or even game on it, Thing is so lame lol
All the productivity stuff is fine, but 70% of what I use my quest 3 for is linking to steam and playing VR games from my PC. How does the Vision Pro compare?
@@thecultofcaged It does play VR games...Albeit it only has a small library at the moment being that it's a first gen product. But plans of more games are likely to come.
The quest 3 has more features than the Apple vision pro which is crazy because the quest 2 the successor of the quest 1 has more features than the vision pro
Vision Pro is nearly 7 times the cost the improvement is negligible for that kind of price difference the fact the Meta quest 3 looks that good and does a lot of similar function for such a small amount of cost is more impressive to me, just boggles my mind how little everyone is talking about how expensive this thing is for what is literally just better tech due to specs then what we already have had for awhile it brings nothing new to the table , matter of fact it’s less useable overall.
The Quest is the superior product in a number of categories. Lighter, no battery back/cable, longer lasting battery, higher vertical FOV, Can use glasses, comes with controllers. Vision pro also has issues with depth reading and motion blur with the pass through. So even though it's 7x the price you are still making compromises. Q3 can essentially do everything the Vision pro can and more with the much larger app store. There's no reason to buy it right now.
People are comparing the vision to quest 3 cuz it’s newer but the bison pro isn’t for gaming like the quest 3 so comparing it to the quest pro would make more sense even if passthough isn’t coloured on quest pro
Ok so let's say not gaming... Whatever it is for the Quest 3 can do too. I do "spatial computing" on the Quest 3. When I am traveling I access my computer 1000 miles away and work in Adobe lightroom editing photos. I have been doing that since Quest 1.
Quest Pro has Color Pass-through. It's just not as clear compared to the Quest 3 and Vision Pro. Also, it lacks depth sensor. Which is needed to know the space in the room for apps.
People only ever compare the passthrough, which the vision pro is specifically made for. People need to add in battery life, gameplay, functionality, and comfortability.
They are also the apples version of the VR headset is heavier than the oculus three so therefore I would recommend you getting the cheaper one because if you are getting it to play it for a long period of time the Apple, VR headset is the same weight of a Apple laptop so just think how hard that is going to be on your face your neck, so just choose your choice wisely
Comparing the vision pro to the quest 3 is like comparing a jeep to a g wagon. Both are off road oriented cars but one is WAY more overpriced and underused than the other.
Wouldn’t say overpriced…you’re getting a better user experience with higher resolution screens. I know those two things seem minuscule to Quest users, but when all you’re doing is staring at screens an inch away from your eyes, pixel density matters the most, and Apple Vision blows the quest out of the water in that aspect
*unless you don’t want to give one of the most atrociously anti-consumer-privacy companies out there tons of your data There is a reason the Quest 3 is so much cheaper, not only because not as high end hardware sure… but for that price? It’s because *you* are the product. If you don’t care about Facebook/Meta scraping as much data as possible on you as they are well notorious for being one of the worst if not worst… go ahead. Most people don’t think about that and some say dumb lines like “if you have nothing to hide why does it matter?” but it is a rising concern. One everyone no matter what should be paying attention to. I am just saying there is very much reason why it isn’t such “no-brainer” to go with the Quest 3. Does it mean I am hopping in excitement and buying a Vision Pro for 4700 CAD pre-tax? Fuck no, you can buy a PC with a 7800X3D+RTX 4090+32GB of RAM for that price. If able to get the Founders 4090 at MSRP you can even get a Valve Index while still spending around the same as an Apple Vision Pro. Now that pricing is assuming you already have some kind of screen and keyboard mouse controls lying around, but still. People spending that much usually do. I would have to set up a VPN connected wifi router here along with complete dummy Meta account and beyond, before ever touching a Facebook/Meta headset if I were to ever have one.
See Bill I've got the apple vision pro , cuz I'm a pro and serious about my computing , and it means I have more money than you which really compensates for my other small parts on my body . And that just makes me feel so good and I'm going to make you feel like junk so I can bask in the glory of my goggles and my -3500 bank account .
