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Applied Energistics 2 Tutorial - Even More Storage Extremes 

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How much can an Applied Energistics 2 storage cell hold? Does it matter what the items are? Does it matter how many types there are?
I answer these questions with a set of experiments and give you the final numbers. Turns out it's a fairly simple formula!
And yes, I take the "Borg Cube of Storage" from my last AE2 tutorial video and... Go bigger!
If you like my stuff, link it, share it, and do all those nice things you do when you find a video you like and want to say thanks. And if you want more, check out my Let's Play series in my channel. Just click my name. :)
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The download includes a bonus ME Controller layout not seen in the videos that may be the best possible design. Challenge: See if you can beat its face counts! (The inner faces come out the red Dense Cable on top.)

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@rylenk2407
@rylenk2407 7 лет назад
Dude, you have like.. a calming, Bob Ross type of voice. I was looking for the happy little trees. Like you don't understand. I was watching some thing about Extra Cells 2 for Fluid automation, and it sent me to this next as RU-vid Autoplay will do... And I'm still watching 21 minutes in, even though this has nothing to do with what I need to do in my game :P Watching this video has been great.
@Nonsanity
@Nonsanity 7 лет назад
You aren't the first to equate me to the PBS painter himself. I think I chop down more trees than I create though. :)
@DavetheTrollFace
@DavetheTrollFace 9 лет назад
Dude you are the one and only youtuber that shows applied energistics 2 in a way that I really could understand it. Also you are one of the few ones who likes to push it to the limits and then show and explain it to other people. Thanks man and keep the channel running. You are great! ;)
@Nonsanity
@Nonsanity 9 лет назад
David Rölleke I'm very glad I'm getting the ideas presented in an understandable way! That's my goal for every tutorial video (and for large portions of my Let's Play series too). :)
@entropic-decay
@entropic-decay 3 года назад
theoretically, the best layout for the ME controller to maximize the number of faces usable would be a 3-D Hilbert curve - each controller block would only touch, at most, 2 others. It'd be a pain to hook up, though.
@defaultsplace1348
@defaultsplace1348 Год назад
Challenge accepted
@zwxyer
@zwxyer 8 месяцев назад
That's not guaranteed to be the best setup If each controller in that setup gives 4 faces, but adding 1 controller there takes away 1 face but adds 3 you would have more. The only thing a Hilbert curve achieves is controller efficiency ie most faces per controller. If you're not as controller efficient but have more than enough controllers to balance out the efficiency, the net result is more channels (infact there is a reddit post that shows a controller with more channels than a hilbert curve)
@dan339dan
@dan339dan 9 лет назад
Chris Innanen Or 1856.157434 Octuple Compressed Cobblestone if you use Extra Utilities, which can tightly fit into a single drive.
@JacenHawk
@JacenHawk 4 года назад
This would hold Octuple Compressed Cobblestone equal to 1.28 quintillion(18 zeroes) cobblestone...
@bebet1240
@bebet1240 3 года назад
@@JacenHawk yes
@mimikal7548
@mimikal7548 6 лет назад
You could give every human living on Earth right now ten cobblestone each and still have a lot remaining.
@antonyyangg
@antonyyangg 7 лет назад
That blew my mind, subscribed. Although it would be better to make the video louder, it's hard to not hurt my ears when I am wearing headphones and turn the volume up high to match this video.
@Nonsanity
@Nonsanity 7 лет назад
+Antony Yang Ah, if only I had a nice audio setup like the top Mincrafter RU-vidrs have. But I try my best and make adjustments when things turn out less than stellar. Thanks for the feedback! :)
@dylanharding5720
@dylanharding5720 4 года назад
I have my headphones really low and can hear it fine..
@3SoccerPlayer3
@3SoccerPlayer3 8 лет назад
I can't thank you enough Nonsanity! This is the most encompassing tutorial on applied energistics tunnels that I have seen! I have shared the video with a few friends and plan to do so further.
@Nonsanity
@Nonsanity 8 лет назад
This wasn't even the main tunnels video. Check out my channel for th earlier video that covers them in much greater detail. :)
@3SoccerPlayer3
@3SoccerPlayer3 8 лет назад
+Nonsanity I went through them all they just below me through out but this is the one I found the most helpful
@Juncti
@Juncti 9 лет назад
Amazing, stumbled across your channel while searching for large ae2 controllers. Building out a new base on our Infinity server and was looking for ideas. Funny how you mentioned 80 billion and first thing that popped to mind was about 40 deep stores. Cut to the little surprise ending. I'll have to check out some of your other stuff, you've got some really cool looking and creative designs.
@sKaXz
@sKaXz 8 лет назад
one of the most relaxing videos I've watched in a while, your voice is amazing :)
@bobosims1848
@bobosims1848 9 лет назад
Absolutely unbelievable! Thank you for blowing my mind.
@alyeakitty
@alyeakitty 9 лет назад
Love that you break down the math of items in a cell! Of course The Wall by Pink Floyd popped in my head... I find it easier to limit random items to smaller cells and larger cells get specific items to maximize storage since one loses so much storage with many items on larger drives (32256 aditional items if I do the math correctly). What would be really ineteresting is to compare the power consumption between subnetworked drives verses networked drives because AE2 is not just about storage but also the energy used to run it. Awesome stuff!
@Nonsanity
@Nonsanity 9 лет назад
alyeakitty I was thinking more along the lines of Game of Thrones, myself. :) And I use a mix of cell sizes and let AE2 defrag items behind the scenes to the right places. I'll be adding power consumption information to the behind the scenes video. :)
@jan23523
@jan23523 8 лет назад
i need that in a couple decades in my survival world
@Nonsanity
@Nonsanity 8 лет назад
+Jan Ritter I'll never need that. I don't think I've ever filled more than 8-10 drive units while playing legit. :)
@50shadesofskittles9
@50shadesofskittles9 5 лет назад
Funniest thing I have heard all day! :-D
@xBaristaPaul
@xBaristaPaul 8 лет назад
Wow! love the video, and the ME Controller "Tutorial" part was awesome!!!!
@Nonsanity
@Nonsanity 8 лет назад
Thanks! :)
@xeno1216
@xeno1216 7 лет назад
Dude, your awesome! Keep up the great work! One idea though: I'd love to see a video detailing an advanced crafting system.
@Nonsanity
@Nonsanity 7 лет назад
I've meant to do that for quite some time now. Eventually I should get around to it. ;)
@oreoicecream1829
@oreoicecream1829 3 года назад
Wow.. dude how the heck that you come up with that..that is insane.. here is a thumbs up 👍
@jamesosborn5485
@jamesosborn5485 7 лет назад
I've seen a few of your videos now. I hope you're still uploading something, because I think you've convinced me to subscribe.
@Nonsanity
@Nonsanity 7 лет назад
+James Osborn I'm still doing videos. I'm in the middle of a 1.10 let's play series right now. I'm currently making a max-size Mekanism induction matrix-which takes many millions of items to make. But check out the channel page for more. :)
@matts.5512
@matts.5512 7 лет назад
I don't care what your name says; you, sir, are insane. I just binged on all of your Applied Energistics 2 tutorials and I am just flabbergasted by this mod. Great work, love the content. Just subscribed.
@Nonsanity
@Nonsanity 7 лет назад
Insane, nonsane... It's all the sane. I mean same. :)
@Arkathtoo
@Arkathtoo 8 лет назад
Fantastic tutorial and an even more fantastic voice! Really enjoyed watching :^]
@Rhodospladde
@Rhodospladde 7 лет назад
Great done!! Awesome :-----) I like the way you show us how to make it on a clever way. I subscribed!
@Senexis
@Senexis 9 лет назад
This is amazing. To just realize the magnitude of this thing is awesome. And to think that all of this could be compressed into one DSU makes me realize how overpowered that thing really is. :P
@Nonsanity
@Nonsanity 9 лет назад
Nadermane Actually, if you watch the very, very end of the video, it takes 40 DSUs. :)
@Ammonium-ow6pd
@Ammonium-ow6pd 7 лет назад
Amazing! I had always wondered how many items can ME systems store.
@Nonsanity
@Nonsanity 7 лет назад
The point of the video was more to show how much people over-engineer their ME Controller blocks. Do you REALLY need THAT many channels, I ask them. :)
@sk1ppy506
@sk1ppy506 9 лет назад
Finally...I understand! After several hours of research and tinkering I have created a system to autocraft quad uranium cells from the ore using AE2. I see how channels can be a pain, but it does make you more aware of cable management and routing. Also if you want to see the machine I can send you the file
@Nonsanity
@Nonsanity 9 лет назад
Plazma lasrer Pictures are probably easier, since that doesn't require the time to download and set up the same pack that you are using. :)
@mercuriushg1291
@mercuriushg1291 7 лет назад
I saw this a few days ago and it inspired me to try to improve the 7*7*7 ME Controller design. Currently I have one with a total of 696 faces, the design featured in your video has a total of 510 faces. When you multiply that by 32 channels per face, your design can supply 16,320 channels, and my new one can supply 22,272 channels. With my design it is essential however that it gets power from the inside, which with the modpack I am using is easy because I can use enderIO's Dimensional Transceiver. There are also an additional 15 blocks in the middle that are not ME Controller's, and can be replaced with other blocks. One of them has to be the Dimensional Transceiver, but apart from that you could add another 14 ME Drives if it is storage you need, I also believe that you could add 5 Molecular Assemblers connected to one interface in place of 6 of those ME Drives, and you could also fill the gaps with other components that you might not need access to, such as an ME Security Terminal after you have configured it for everyone on your server, or an ME Wireless Access Point once you have given it as many upgrades as you need to cover your base. I have gone for adding 14 ME Drives to mine just to boost the storage slightly, so in my system I can have a maximum of 222,286 ME Drives, each having 10 64k ME Storage Cell's, which if you fill up with just one item (like in your cobble example) then you could store 115,929,989,120 cobblestone. In the system in your video the maximum amount is 84,895,334,400. I'm probably going to record a video of it in a couple of days to demonstrate it, if you are interested I can show you it in closer detail then.
@Nonsanity
@Nonsanity 7 лет назад
If you make (or have made) a video of this design, I'd very much like to see it. Quite a few people comment about better designs. It would be great to see where the state of the art ends up. :)
@samson03
@samson03 5 лет назад
I think it's really cool that you explain everything in this much detail and size but you should also let everyone know that you could replace the whole thing with one deep storage unit
@Nonsanity
@Nonsanity 5 лет назад
Did you stay to the very end of the video? I show off that very fact. ;)
@petersorenson4535
@petersorenson4535 6 лет назад
Amazing, this is really helping me make my own me system!
@Nonsanity
@Nonsanity 6 лет назад
+Peter Sorenson Grrrrreat! :)
@adammajor1139
@adammajor1139 7 лет назад
Seriously though, I learned how to do ae2 from your videos. Now I make Ae2 data centers for people on servers lol. Keep up the great work!
@Nonsanity
@Nonsanity 7 лет назад
So YOU stole all my business! ;)
@adammajor1139
@adammajor1139 7 лет назад
You taught me well, Nonsanity! Much love
@Nonsanity
@Nonsanity 9 лет назад
+René Wattenberg (You have replies disabled in your Google+ settings.) The blocks between the drives are Graphite storage blocks (9 Graphite ingots) from the Big Reactors mod. You smelt charcoal a second time to get the ingots. The blocks are one of my favorite accent textures because of their industrial look. :)
@valentin0000
@valentin0000 7 лет назад
Thank u for that video it is the best ive ever seen
@ezequiel2006
@ezequiel2006 9 лет назад
it is datacenter of the Google. :D
@beedslolkuntus2070
@beedslolkuntus2070 4 года назад
I have a modpack and a small private server and I am assigned to create a ME datacentre!
@dizzyaaron
@dizzyaaron 8 лет назад
OMFG!!! YOU ARE INSANE SIR TECH GOD!!! How did I miss this video!! :D
@Nonsanity
@Nonsanity 8 лет назад
+DizzyAaron And here I thought this was the basis for the nick-name...
@dizzyaaron
@dizzyaaron 8 лет назад
Nonsanity Shit, if I would have known the name would have come much quicker!! XD
@MarijnRoorda
@MarijnRoorda 9 лет назад
This is very much the video i wanted after your previous tutorial, a clean explanation of how storage works and how bigger isnt always better. And personally speaking, this video could use a little giggle at the end. a Deep storage unit from MFR can hold just over 2 billion. 40 of those could hold the same 80 billion, and be stored inside a DSU. The wall could be compressed down to a single block. Or slapped on a 1k, and store some other junk.
@Nonsanity
@Nonsanity 9 лет назад
Check the end of the video again. ;) I interrupt the outro to mention DSUs. (Few people are noticing that... My bad.)
@MarijnRoorda
@MarijnRoorda 9 лет назад
Nonsanity That'll teach me not to watch till the very last second...
@gregorkellner1970
@gregorkellner1970 8 лет назад
MAN you are so awesome i just watch your video and i cant believe what you have done!! WELCOME TO THE WALL, THIS IS THE WAAALLLL OF STORAGE!!! D:
@Nonsanity
@Nonsanity 8 лет назад
Well, it's not like it's survival or anything... :)
@BowYangJam
@BowYangJam 9 лет назад
You are my hero.
@Lingo
@Lingo 9 лет назад
Great video. Love knowing more about AE2. I have a question, How much RF would it take to power it? Thx, Lingo
@audiogarden21
@audiogarden21 7 лет назад
You just gotta love the diffraction caused by such an enormous setup that is reminiscent of ole CRT monitors and TVs. Mostly the latter.
@Nonsanity
@Nonsanity 7 лет назад
That's called a Moiré pattern. :) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moir%C3%A9_pattern
@audiogarden21
@audiogarden21 7 лет назад
Nonsanity Ah yes. I couldn't remember the actual term for it. Thanks.
@MrRyanroberson1
@MrRyanroberson1 8 лет назад
+JoeAceJR I mean the first video on storage mechanics, you can place things in a terminal with enderio which can be used to pump items from a chest without any complex setup, and therefore the terminal will automatically clear itself however possible, I.e. By sending items unto the a.e. System, replace terminal with that thing that cab do auto crafting and has 2 rows for a GUI [windows phone can't reply]
@therealtkh
@therealtkh 4 года назад
Nice build, extreme is almost too weak to describe this! Question: Did you ever build or get suggested an controller design that is maxed out? I made a design with 22841 channels and had at that time not seen or heard of any with higher numbers. Have not looked around but curious to hear if this has changed in the last four years... :)
@Kakaocat
@Kakaocat 9 лет назад
Your voice is so soothing n_n Nice video!
@Nonsanity
@Nonsanity 9 лет назад
whizzba I should do hypnosis induction recordings... ;D
@spikeball1171
@spikeball1171 8 лет назад
You should do a demonstration on what it would take to compress all of that cobblestone into 8x compressed cobblestone in a reasonable amount of time from the extra utilities mod using the auto crafting capabilities from AE2.
@Nonsanity
@Nonsanity 8 лет назад
AE2 would be a poor choice for crafting all that cobble quickly. My AE2 autocrafting tests were actually with compressed cobble and it was very slow, even with 64 crafting units with full upgrades. A single RFTools autocrafter would be many times faster, as would any number of other similar crafting devices from other mods. AE2's crafting is best for complicated, multi-step craftings that would be difficult or impossible for other mods to do. It's also best for having many different recipes available at the same time. In my FTB Daybreaker Let's Play series, I had to make Mekanism's Ultimate Induction Cells in large quantities without AE2. It took me three designs to get something that worked without problems, and it turned out very complicated indeed. It would have been trivial in comparison if I had AE2 available. :)
@spikeball1171
@spikeball1171 8 лет назад
+Nonsanity Very interesting ill have to look into some of those mods. I do have a question about ae2. If I were to get 2 inscribers and link them to my ae2 network and have them make printed logic circuits, when I start a recipe that requires more than one printed logic board will the ae2 network utilize both at the same time?
@mennenkid
@mennenkid 8 лет назад
Just saw this, very cool
@_skykix
@_skykix 7 лет назад
Yes thank you! I have now somewhat an understanding of channels and p2p tunnels. Before I would only make like a 1x3 controllers for my build because I didn't know how to expand and it would hurt my walnut brain. Now it makes sense on how to expand mine. Also why did you put another controller(not connecting to the main one) on top of your example build?
@Nonsanity
@Nonsanity 7 лет назад
That second controller was to give the transport network more than 8 channels. Once you need dense cable to connect all your tunnels (more than eight of them, that is) you need a separate Me Controller to provide the channels. (Or you can mix it back into the main system, but that wasn't the technique I was demonstrating.) :)
@Relaxe1
@Relaxe1 9 лет назад
Woooow that´s crazy. I kinda just scrolled to the end since I know the possibilities in ae2. That´s ooooone big system though. Did you do it with world edit?
@Nonsanity
@Nonsanity 9 лет назад
SquadMining Nope. It was creative, but I used Turtles to do a lot of the construction. Check out the Behind the Scenes video for details. :)
@thetimelords911
@thetimelords911 7 лет назад
Do you have a FULL tutorial for that brain cube thing? Also, is it still possible to access its inventory or individual sections of its inventory using more than one interface? ALSO, how much power does the brain cube consume?
@Nonsanity
@Nonsanity 7 лет назад
That cube is quite ridiculous to make in any survival world. That was sort of the point of making the wall-to show how much you would need to power before a Controller that big would be necessary. :)
@thetimelords911
@thetimelords911 7 лет назад
Nonsanity Well you see, the point of a sandbox game is to go big or go home. And thats what im doing! Im using a digital miner from mekanism and ore duplication to help. Also, before you commented, i noticed the world download! It helped greatly and i managed to make myself in illustrated guide on the steps to making one! If you would like to see I could send you
@tehflemin
@tehflemin 8 лет назад
Haha, two seconds in i said "this is clearly Algo", you sound juuuust like him. Awesome though, I support this.
@Nonsanity
@Nonsanity 8 лет назад
+James Fleming Support! Now I won't fall down. :)
@Laughhard12345
@Laughhard12345 9 лет назад
did you say that you put in all the drives manually or did you have some sort of automation for that?
@Nonsanity
@Nonsanity 9 лет назад
Turtles but the Storage Cells into the empty Drives. You can see them doing that in the behind the scenes video, :)
@shuttleman27c
@shuttleman27c Год назад
Is there a way to use the inside faces for more?
@Nonsanity
@Nonsanity 9 лет назад
+Matthew Schulz The fastest way to craft bedrockium, or at least to craft the compressed cobblestone required to make it, is to use Steve's Factory Manager. Applied Energistics 2 is nowhere near as fast-I've tried it. I always set it up in my recent Let's Play series, usually pretty early on so, so it has time to build up.
@shuhaotian8559
@shuhaotian8559 7 лет назад
How about compacting drawers from storage drawers? they craft instantly and dont need power or clocks
@Nonsanity
@Nonsanity 7 лет назад
SFM doesn't need power or clocks either. :)
@shuhaotian8559
@shuhaotian8559 7 лет назад
They do need clocks, trigger is a clock and all the commands are executed in that same tick, which *might* be too much for the tick to process in time and cause a lag spike (very unlikely though)
@gregistopal
@gregistopal 5 лет назад
Nope compressing drawers are the fastest
@Nonsanity
@Nonsanity 9 лет назад
+Joseph Harrietha (You have replies turned off in your Google+ settings.) If you check the end of the video, I demonstrate how 40 DSUs can hold as much. You hit stop too soon. ;)
@oden_mullvaden
@oden_mullvaden Год назад
HELLO what modpack are you playing in your minecraft world
@cappuccinie8458
@cappuccinie8458 7 лет назад
this just earned you a sub.
@cappuccinie8458
@cappuccinie8458 7 лет назад
(spoiler alert; it's from me)
@Nonsanity
@Nonsanity 7 лет назад
Darn. I guessed wrong.
@ohertzs
@ohertzs 8 лет назад
Could you have a series of memory controller cubes and connect a transport network that links all the transport networks for each cube to make a truly insane sized setup? I am aware of the storage bus trick but it would be interesting to know if this would work? My understanding of AE2 is in its infancy.
@Nonsanity
@Nonsanity 8 лет назад
+ohertzs There are a few tricks with Interfaces that might allow for even greater numbers of drives... But why? :) Even this is more than anyone would ever need when playing legit. But from a purely "can it be done" standpoint: Yes, it can be made bigger. :)
@BanditLeader
@BanditLeader 7 лет назад
His storage system is over 9000!
@Nonsanity
@Nonsanity 9 лет назад
+Michael Lingafelter (You have replies turned off in your Google+ settings.) I'll be looking into the power requirements in the behind the scenes video I made. Expect that later today-if all goes well.
@Lingo
@Lingo 9 лет назад
Nonsanity Thanks for the heads up on the whole reppy thing.
@Gibbynovo
@Gibbynovo 4 года назад
How can I watch the borg cube storage video can't find it
@bobbobby2366
@bobbobby2366 9 лет назад
Another awesome video! Apart from talking on here, in what ways can I talk to you.. more.. privately?
@Nonsanity
@Nonsanity 9 лет назад
You can always Skype me. Same name.
@Eridani_Astra
@Eridani_Astra 9 лет назад
This is a like a much more amazing version of the mfr deep storage unit.
@Nonsanity
@Nonsanity 9 лет назад
Did you see the bit at the end about the DSUs? :)
@monohymn
@monohymn 9 лет назад
Nonsanity Boring old DSUs vs. The Wall of Cells?
@Eridani_Astra
@Eridani_Astra 9 лет назад
Nonsanity I'd rather have the wall of cells too! I'm still working on a borg cube on my server. Got 1/4 of a wall done
@Nonsanity
@Nonsanity 9 лет назад
Proxima People keep mentioning the DSUs as if they hadn't seen the bit at the end of this video where I show off a block of 40 DSUs that would hold just as much cobble as the whole wall. :)
@monohymn
@monohymn 9 лет назад
Nonsanity It was a nice record scratch, but you gotta realize that you've unleashed a new goal for bragging rights now...
@JacobKinsley
@JacobKinsley 7 лет назад
Ooh, you have one of those satisfying clicky-mice :0
@Nonsanity
@Nonsanity 7 лет назад
+Jacob Kinsley Nope. Trackpad on a MackBook Pro. :)
@lirsanplay9196
@lirsanplay9196 5 лет назад
Thats truly Nonsanity You need to name that video "R34 Applied Eneergistics"
@Sol-hm7ol
@Sol-hm7ol 4 года назад
looks so cool
@Nonsanity
@Nonsanity 4 года назад
Glad I didn’t have to build it by hand, though! :)
@Sol-hm7ol
@Sol-hm7ol 4 года назад
@@Nonsanity I mean the "core" of it where all the cables converge
@WOLFSPELZ13
@WOLFSPELZ13 5 лет назад
What about a 7 x 7 x 7 Hilbert Curve ? Is it not even bigger for the Cube ?
@Altaree1
@Altaree1 9 лет назад
I would like to see you do tips and tricks for interfacing AE2 with machines and autocrafting.
@Nonsanity
@Nonsanity 9 лет назад
That's on my near-term todo list! :)
@MrDj200
@MrDj200 9 лет назад
OMG, Thank you for showing me Pistronics! Didn't knew the mod before. Defenitly going in my ModPack :P. by the way, is the Modsauce series dead? I really liked it :D
@Nonsanity
@Nonsanity 9 лет назад
My next video will be a new Modsauce episode. :)
@MrDj200
@MrDj200 9 лет назад
Nonsanity Uhh, nice. Looking forward to it :)
@comet6360
@comet6360 3 года назад
Industrial foregoing: you can contract that into few black hole units which only costs 4 iron, 1red stone block, 4 wood planks, 2 chests, 2 ender eyes and 3 plastic
@IChrisI2
@IChrisI2 9 лет назад
Could you knock out several corners of the inner rings and run cables in there (using cable anchors) to put P2P buses on the inside of the controller cube? Alternatively, and this is crazy, could you add quantum bridges inside the controller cube to port those channels outside?
@Nonsanity
@Nonsanity 9 лет назад
IChrisI2 You could get P2P Tunnels inside and punch through with a dense cable to get them out, but it wouldn't be simple. A quantum ring wouldn't fit in there, but a Compact Machine might work to get the channels out.
@boter6065
@boter6065 7 лет назад
Impressive video, but what's the point of the me controllers in between the dense cables?
@Nonsanity
@Nonsanity 7 лет назад
I'm guessing you mean the transport network controllers. The cables that bring the P2P tunnels from one place to another are on a separate network. I have a whole video about that on my channel. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-j-SQ0AvGA7c.html
@captainachievement9891
@captainachievement9891 8 лет назад
omg your voice is beautiful.
@Nonsanity
@Nonsanity 8 лет назад
+Moses Elton I... Well... Not sure how to respond. :)
@JenInMinecraft
@JenInMinecraft 8 лет назад
24:45 - That's why I love using DSU-Subnets so much more than drives when I know I'll have tons of items. :) I've only built it in parts, but what I'd love to do is make a DSU (overflow) subnetwork with JABBA barrels as the "primary" storage, just to make a build look pretty. i.e., have a JABBA barrel always keep 64 stacks of 64 cobble, but have excess cobble wind up in the DSU, and only refill the barrel when it drops below a certain limit.
@fuuryuuSKK
@fuuryuuSKK 6 лет назад
you could supply the energy with a quantum bridge inside the Controller (it has that 3x3x3 Cavity inside that could fit 2 Quantum Bridges)
@Nonsanity
@Nonsanity 6 лет назад
+Fuuryuu The Brain behind the Wall doesn't have that much room inside, but if it did, you'd still need to have room for the cables to connect to the Bridge. :)
@fuuryuuSKK
@fuuryuuSKK 6 лет назад
Nonsanity if I understand correctly, you have, on each axis, blocks #1, 2, 6 and 7 used up by the Controller, so there should be nothing preventing you from using 3,3,3 to 5,5,5 for at least one bridge
@worldgate989
@worldgate989 9 лет назад
Thats... massive. I've never needed that much storage... is that all stone or something or stuff you mined out?
@sheltonburnadeski5946
@sheltonburnadeski5946 9 лет назад
***** /facepalm
@worldgate989
@worldgate989 9 лет назад
***** zzz
@ymer234
@ymer234 9 лет назад
OMFG, super soaryn drive: there is the door! Grats on the 1024 subs.
@Nonsanity
@Nonsanity 9 лет назад
ymer234 The SSD has it's place, still. The storage/interface trick makes adding more storage easier by not having to worry about channels. I'm just saying that if you understand channels, you also don't have to worry about them-you'll have plenty! :)
@Toksyuryel
@Toksyuryel 9 лет назад
Nonsanity The storage bus on an interface thing isn't the special thing about the SSD, that's a basic mechanic of AE2 that the mod author himself frequently mentions in his own tutorials and on the AE2 website (it is intended functionality, not a trick). The trick with the SSD that really makes it special beyond its tileable design is the secondary network of storage busses attached to the drives themselves that allows you to insert and remove storage cells with an ME Terminal. Makes getting your storage cells into the drives, and upgrading them later, a breeze.
@Nonsanity
@Nonsanity 9 лет назад
That part I never really saw a need for. It's not that hard to walk over to the drives and stick in another ten or twenty 64k drives by hand if I'm starting to run low. I know the SSD can be set up to craft more drives as they are needed and insert them, but that could get out of hand if, say, a mob farm started dumping tons of non-stacking unique items into the system (after a trash can malfunction, perhaps). I'd rather the system fill and stop than keep crafting drives and filling up with more and more stone swords. I want to be able to control the growth directly and have run-away processes fail gracefully. Don't get me wrong, it's a cool trick and I like it... I just would never want to use it in a production system. ;)
@Toksyuryel
@Toksyuryel 9 лет назад
Nonsanity I hadn't even thought about the ability to automatically craft and insert cells as they are needed, that's really cool. I gotta set that up sometime :D but for me using the terminal is just way easier than clicking on a bunch of different drives to find the one I'm looking for. Of course my setup isn't the SSD either, as I don't really see a need for infinitely expandable storage and as you demonstrate here you can get far more than enough storage without it anyway. I'm just taking advantage of the storage bus-on-drive feature to make my life a little easier :) I don't really have the resources yet to mass-produce 64k cells so I'm using 16k cells in my setup, having them attached to the ME terminal means when I want to upgrade some of them to 64k I can easily just pull out some 16k cells from the terminal, stick them in an IO port to empty them back into the system, then crack them out of their housings, upgrade them, and put them back in without having to hunt through each drive for them. It also lets me have the access terminal for doing this somewhere other than where the drives are physically located. I enjoy doing "control room" style setups and that's another terminal I have the ability to place in there.
@Nonsanity
@Nonsanity 9 лет назад
Style counts! :)
@jkmsr5363
@jkmsr5363 7 лет назад
I love the wall, but it made me sad to think that's not even half of a DSU's space. How long did that take to build? (+1 sub)
@Nonsanity
@Nonsanity 7 лет назад
It actually takes 20 DSUs, as I demonstrate in that video after the closer title. ;)
@jkmsr5363
@jkmsr5363 7 лет назад
Hahah, I had to leave early for soccer practice, sorry for my comment then XD
@PhillipDykman
@PhillipDykman 9 лет назад
That is some madness going on with getting the channels to all of those. MADNESS! (or Sparta). Nonsanity, did you see the trick with sub-network storage using a storage bus? All that could be on one channel in the main network. And not a single dense cable or controller required. Case in point: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-fsQHchP2iK8.html Granted, yours looks so much cooler.
@sk1ppy506
@sk1ppy506 9 лет назад
I'm still used to AE1 and I find this amazingly complex even though I built fully automated fusion reactor fuel supplies (Gregtech), and Automated coffee shops. Do ME controllers still serve the same purpose of supplying power to the network? Or do they do something entirely different?. BTW AWESOME :)
@Nonsanity
@Nonsanity 9 лет назад
The controllers are very different in AE2 compared to AE1 due to the introduction of channels. That change is what trips up most AE1 players when making the switch. I also have a tutorial on AE2 channels and how to manage them on my RU-vid channel. If you haven't used AE2 yet, I suggest checking that out as well as my AE2 "starting out" video if you want a more complete refresher. The short answer is, ME Controllers just let you attach more machines to your network, adding 32 for each face of the ME Controller multiblock you attach a dense cable to. (Or just 8 more per face if you use lesser cables.) For small networks of 8 or less devices (a drive and a crafting terminal only, for example), you don't even need an ME Controller now. Hope that helps. :)
@Nonsanity
@Nonsanity 9 лет назад
Oh yes... Power is now supplied to the network through the Energy Acceptor block now, though a few AE2 devices can take raw RF, like the ME Controller, Chargers, and Inscribers. :)
@sk1ppy506
@sk1ppy506 9 лет назад
Thx
@WereDictionary
@WereDictionary 8 лет назад
As of right now, AE2 systems need an energy acceptor. They run on an energy system thats called AE aswell. The mod adds a means of generating AE directly, but most energy generators produce RF.
@Nonsanity
@Nonsanity 8 лет назад
+Reaperonatricycle This is correct. The Energy Acceptor block will convert RF (and some other power types) to AE's internal format. The ME Controllers can do the same thing, to some extent. I was powering my setup by sticking a Tesseract to the ME Controller block. I've found that converting RF is pretty much a necessity for large AE2 systems, unless you want to run through a LOT of combustibles. :)
@WereDictionary
@WereDictionary 8 лет назад
+Nonsanity Huh, guess I've been had then. But on the other hand, my current network has about 300 channels so its not exactly small - and it provides the energy for 5 or 6 subnetworks. Still nothing compared to your leviathan of a network in this video, but apparently large enough to warrant an acceptor. I tried the direct conversion and it didnt quite work. How did you do this? P2P tunnels on multiple layers?
@thetimelords911
@thetimelords911 7 лет назад
Wait, couldnt you use subnets to expand this storage system infinitely somehow? Or is it impossible due to channel limits?
@Breadn
@Breadn 7 лет назад
It is possible
@jotunn2396
@jotunn2396 3 года назад
what kind of supercomputer you had/have?! this big ME controller works on my computer like 6 - 7 minutes!
@Nonsanity
@Nonsanity 3 года назад
Back then, it was an old Macbook, three computers ago at least. But the whole point of that series of AE2 videos was to show you really don't need to go that big. :)
@DaD3coy
@DaD3coy 6 лет назад
Nice vid ^^ By the way, saw the end and ... had to try xD Found a way to have 17*32*32 chans (total) ... 17 408 so 174 080 disk space with extra-cell it's 362 220 093 440 stacks so 23 182 085 980 160 items and with extra utilities: 997 912 787 385 959 055 360 cobble stones ... Completly useless, but how fun would it be xD
@Nonsanity
@Nonsanity 6 лет назад
+Decoy Bla Quite a few people have suggested modifications to increase the channel count over the years. I’m not sure who holds the record. I could be you. :)
@DaD3coy
@DaD3coy 6 лет назад
The point is, your pattern is hard to set P2P links, mine is quite impossible since i've to link during the building x) Would be fun to see if someone tried to do a record ^^ Oh yeah, forgot in the main "post", thanks for all your AE vids, so cleanly explained on how this works that even english isn't my native langage i did a (needlessly) massive contraption in SMP ^^
@Hayden123457
@Hayden123457 8 лет назад
I wonder how much storage you could have if you had extra cells installed with AE, would be a good video
@benjamenja5735
@benjamenja5735 8 лет назад
With all 16384k storage cells?
@Hayden123457
@Hayden123457 8 лет назад
MoarDiamond the 16M cells
@benjamenja5735
@benjamenja5735 8 лет назад
+Hayden123457 are you talking about extra cells 2?
@Hayden123457
@Hayden123457 8 лет назад
MoarDiamond yea
@BanditLeader
@BanditLeader 7 лет назад
well with the wall, if you replaced all the cells with the biggest cell in extra cells, the storage would go from 80 billion to about 100 sextillion
@patrix87
@patrix87 7 лет назад
If you want so store cobblestone, one single easy to build Crafter Tier 3 from RFTools will compress and hold up to 82,649,704,320 blocks of cobblestone. Which in theory would make that 1 cubic meter bloc so heavy and dense that if it existed in the real universe would very likely implode into a stellar black hole. :)
@Nonsanity
@Nonsanity 7 лет назад
+Patrick Veilleux Then start filling Deep Storage Units with Oct cobble and implode the universe? :)
@skyguy7567
@skyguy7567 9 лет назад
80 billion... Forty DSUs lol
@Nonsanity
@Nonsanity 9 лет назад
skyguy7567 Watch the very end of the video... I show off the same 40 DSUs of which you speak. ;)
@balispy
@balispy 7 лет назад
how did you automate the building of this? there's no link to that video
@Nonsanity
@Nonsanity 7 лет назад
Quin Burke ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-lZVUGIuaGcM.html There us go! :)
@balispy
@balispy 7 лет назад
Thanks man! Surprised I got a reply to be honest hahaha but awesome video by the way! I just started really understanding AE2 recently and I'm having a blast with it. Can I ask another question? In your resonant rise AE setup you use a bunch of crafting cpus with only one co-processor, why is this? What made you decide to use only one assembler per interface instead of making arrays so you can have 6 assemblers per interface?
@mox4930
@mox4930 8 лет назад
have you ever thought of taking one controller out of the cube and use the inside of the cube too :) with my patience level i was able to get an additional 2000 channels out of the inside on a multiplayer server -albeit that the server owners were freaked out at the size XD
@Nonsanity
@Nonsanity 8 лет назад
Yes, I think I mention that in one of the AE2 videos, I just never wanted to spend the time to do it. Particularly when there's any number of creative folks like you out there that can push it farther as well. :)
@kevinbs05
@kevinbs05 8 лет назад
That or 40 DSUs :). Perhaps that filled with DSUs filled with cobble?
@nathantron
@nathantron 7 лет назад
Holy mother of god dude....
@segmentfault3973
@segmentfault3973 7 лет назад
Wat version of EE3 are you using? You must be able to produce the Minium Dust, else you wouldn't have any reason to use EE3 because you need minium dust in order to progress through the mod. Several versions of EE3 do not assign an energy-value to minium dust on my system, probably because those versions are broken. I know you are using minecraft 1.7.10, because Applied Energistics 2 was never released for 1.6.4. Please tell me, so that I can produce Minium Dust and use the mod as it was intended.
@Nonsanity
@Nonsanity 7 лет назад
I haven't watched that particular video in a long time, but I don't remember mentioning EE3 in it. Everything in there was done in creative mode for demonstration purposes. I did use EE3 in my Daybreaker series (1.7) but that was a while back too. Now I'm only playing 1.10 packs (Avant 3) which don't have EE3 at all. Sorry I can't help you with your problem. :(
@SuperLuckykid10
@SuperLuckykid10 7 лет назад
what pack was the video on
@Nonsanity
@Nonsanity 7 лет назад
I don't remember-it's been too long. Sorry.
@KeinNiemand
@KeinNiemand 6 лет назад
how do you get to the faces on the inside?
@Nonsanity
@Nonsanity 6 лет назад
Usually, there are some holes in the sides through which a cable can escape with the inner faces attached.
@GuyMichaely
@GuyMichaely 9 лет назад
I dont get how the p2p tunnels help, what purpose do they do?
@Nonsanity
@Nonsanity 9 лет назад
Guy Michaely Each tunnel can accept 32 channels at one end and output the same 32 channels on the other end. You can have a dense cable with 32 tunnels on it, linking 16 tunnels on one end to 16 tunnels on the other end, each transmitting 32 channels. So one dense cable can support 512 channels instead of just 32. It's like compression. If you want a more useful explanation, check out my P2P Tunnel Tutorial here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-j-SQ0AvGA7c.html :)
@juliand665
@juliand665 7 лет назад
was this video recorded on a laptop? the clicking sounds like it
@Nonsanity
@Nonsanity 7 лет назад
+juliand665 Yes. My MacBook's trackpad is annoyingly loud, but I've been finding ways to minimize it. It's still audible in my latest videos, but it's far more in the background.
@nicoonekoo
@nicoonekoo 7 лет назад
You can store items in items in items in items (from other mods).................... in drives.... and have a black hole in minecraft. (or at least some spikes coming up from that direction)
@Nonsanity
@Nonsanity 7 лет назад
+nicuch neko But would you WANT to! That's the question. :)
@nicoonekoo
@nicoonekoo 7 лет назад
Infinite storage... why not :)) but java is limited (and RAM as well).
@TramFahrerGTASAMP
@TramFahrerGTASAMP 8 лет назад
That's fucking insane...I Love it :D
@marchalalexandre9360
@marchalalexandre9360 7 лет назад
did you think about replacing the actual cells with the 16384k cells from extracells filled with octuple compressed cobble in your enormous storage system ?
@Nonsanity
@Nonsanity 7 лет назад
I did, yes. But the main point of the video was to show just how much a single, max-ed out (or nearly so) controller could handle. As the very end of the video showed, that same amount of cobble would fit in just a handful of Deep Storage Units-they are much better for single-type storage. AE2's drives are better for smaller quantities of distinct items. The combination of the two solves 99.9999% of players' storage needs without resorting to such extremes as "the wall" depicted here. :)
@Silvernocte
@Silvernocte 9 лет назад
Time to use the interface/storage bus trick to make the Borg cube MkII
@Nonsanity
@Nonsanity 9 лет назад
Silvernocte Well, with the interface/storage linkage, the drive count can be as big is you want it to be. No upper limit to push there, so not much challenge. :) Besides, the cube was only a fraction the size of the wall. No one ever notices the wall has five times as many drives, and that's counting all the drives I didn't bother to build into the cube that it could have had. :)
@apacher112
@apacher112 8 лет назад
The Wall of "What the Fu*k, why would you do this Nonsanity!" It should be illegal! :)
@Buildercrafterful
@Buildercrafterful 9 лет назад
Can u do a tutorial on all the wiring on the controller design plz
@Nonsanity
@Nonsanity 9 лет назад
KingsLab Well, most of it is right there in this video. I show the design of the ME Controllers, and then I show how to properly wire it a small section. A sill image of the completed unit should be enough to tell you how I wired it all up, but you can use your own design as long as you keep in mind the limits I mention in this video. :)
@Buildercrafterful
@Buildercrafterful 9 лет назад
ok thx
@justinedherica.verdaluza8766
@justinedherica.verdaluza8766 7 лет назад
Can you level it up into a cube? Then use it in a survival mode with some popular and famous modpacks like FTB or All the mods.
@Nonsanity
@Nonsanity 7 лет назад
+Justine Dheric Verdaluza One of the other videos in that AE2 series had a cubic arrangement of drives, though the wall has more drives by a good bit. And this is nothing I would ever want or need to make in a survival world. The point of the video was to show how silly it is to make a max-size ME Controller structure. :)
@gamingcow7796
@gamingcow7796 9 месяцев назад
the wall holds at least 5% of cobble needed for a E2E recipe
@Irondragon0
@Irondragon0 7 лет назад
this design is awesome cuz you can put a quantum computer inside it. i just tried it and it works very well XD
@patrickhayes3011
@patrickhayes3011 6 лет назад
The casual player's ME storage compared to THE WALL feels like the modded equivalent of a dirt house compared to a grand cathedral.
@Nonsanity
@Nonsanity 6 лет назад
But it’s only a grand DIRT cathedral. (Well, cobblestone, anyway.) ;)
@patrickhayes3011
@patrickhayes3011 6 лет назад
Mono-material or not, it's still a work of art in and of itself
@Myndrios
@Myndrios 9 лет назад
So what if you used storage buses hooked up to DSUs and filled those with cobble? (Instead of all the ME drives)
@Nonsanity
@Nonsanity 9 лет назад
I interrupted the end credits of that video to show how many DSUs it would take to equal the Wall. :)
@D3athstreak
@D3athstreak 9 лет назад
Well, you have to determine how much cobble a single drive full of 64K storage units filled with cobble holds, subtract that from I think the two billion the DSU holds, and then multiply by the amount of drives you're replacing. Actually pretty simple.
@D3athstreak
@D3athstreak 9 лет назад
Which should be over 30 trillion cobblestone. You're welcome
@Nonsanity
@Nonsanity 9 лет назад
D3athstreak Yup. It would hold 32,727,650,795,520 cobble, or thereabouts. (I may be off by a few thousand in actual implementation.) Of course, though I'm filling the system up with cobble here, using drives lets you store anything and everything-and a lot of it-though not as much as you can store of just cobble. If you want to store just one thing, DSUs are the way to go. :)
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