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Apprenticeship: The Other Bachelor’s Degree | Victoria Gordon | TEDxHayesStreet 

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Dr. Victoria Gordon is the Apprentice Coordinator for Macomb Community College and is responsible for coordinating the educational programs in the areas of apprenticeship and other special training. In her talk Dr. Gordon offers her insight on the power of apprenticeships as a powerful option for a lucrative and sustainable career, with the possibility for advancement. Dr. Victoria Gordon joined Macomb Community College in 2010. As the Apprentice Coordinator for the College, she is responsible for coordinating the educational programs in the areas of apprenticeship, employee-in-training, Applied Technology non-apprenticeship training, and other special training programs.
Dr. Gordon has a broad range of experience in higher education. She has been involved in many initiatives promoting the occupational and training needs of industry. In her experience prior to Macomb, Dr. Gordon worked more than a decade as a Tool Designer and Project Coordinator within the Southeast Michigan manufacturing
sector.
Dr. Gordon holds a Doctorate of Education in Community College Leadership from Ferris State University and was a 2016 recipient of the National Institute for Staff and Organizational Development (NISOD) Excellence in Teaching Award. This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at www.ted.com/tedx

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@Jessilavender
@Jessilavender 3 года назад
I dropped out of university when I was 19 and became an electrician. I am now 29, a journeywoman & own my own business!! The trades are very hard work but also a very rewarding path to take. ✌️❤️
@psychophilospher
@psychophilospher 3 года назад
I’m entering into my fourth year in August for a journeymen apprenticeship for injection plastics molding technician. It’s been a pretty fun journey and the school at our community college has been great. My company paired with a state program to offer us this opportunity and the workers at the community college has worked with our company to not just get us a certificate upon completion but creating an Associate degree in apprenticeship studies. So we will take a handful of general studies courses in addition to our technical classes and actually graduate with a degree as well. I am in my late thirties and it’s been amazing to have this opportunity and wish I could have been offered it at a younger age instead of bumbling around aimlessly in my youthful years.
@patgenier1965
@patgenier1965 3 года назад
Never too late learn my friend. At age 45 , Through apprenticeship here in Canada, I earned my Canadian Red Seal certification as Mobile and Tower crane operator. I believe the universe presented me with the opportunity when I was ready. I wish you Good luck and good success. And most of all, Congratulations 👏.
@nevzuhur1515
@nevzuhur1515 3 года назад
Congratulations both of you
@ryandavis7593
@ryandavis7593 3 года назад
Everything one needs to know can be found at the library. I am a locomotive electrician. I learned about this as a kid being interested in model trains. What I didn’t know then was how much actually crosses over into full size diesel electric locomotives. I just wish I could have gotten into the field much younger than I did. I laugh at job descriptions that require a bachelors degree in electrical engineering for a sixty thousand a year job. I got everything I needed from on the job trial and error and the library. My mother did the same to land a technical publications editor’s position with the Army.
@celestialcircledance
@celestialcircledance 3 года назад
That may be true for you but you have to have some type of basic knowledge of tools and technical lingo to be able to grasp what your reading and some people just learn better visually .
@briangarrow448
@briangarrow448 3 года назад
Many high school guidance counselors tell kids the ONLY way to success is a college degree. They are dead wrong. I was a product of a union apprenticeship program and managed to have a successful career in energy production and pollution control systems. I graduated with a journeyman card as a boilermaker field mechanic and used that education to travel all across North America from Pruhdoe Bay to Palo Verde Arizona. I raised 6 kids, 5 of whom chose university degree programs and 1 who went through an apprenticeship program. Guess which one has NO educational debts? All of them are successful in their chosen fields, but one has much less debts. My advice to young people- post secondary education is mandatory for success in today’s world. Find a field of interest and be serious about your studies and training. Take some time to research the department of labor statistics about what skills will be needed in tomorrow’s world. There’s no point in training for a career that is dieing. Do not accept that university degrees are the only way to success.
@ManonJadeYeah
@ManonJadeYeah 3 года назад
As a Swiss I can totally relate and agree (Apprenticeship is really valued in my country, thankfully). I started my automation technician apprenticeship at the age of 15, which allowed me to then get a Bachelor and a Masters degree (Engineering) that I recently finished, at the age of 23. I am way more at ease in the workplace than my other young colleagues who followed a more traditional university degree. I strongly promote this path :)
@saisaramis7945
@saisaramis7945 3 года назад
I have two kids in uni, one doing marketing/commerce. She worked in a cafe for two years, and now in her third year has a customer relations job in a credit referencing startup, thru a friend. Going into the search for relevant work, she was saying she had no practical knowledge relevant to her degrees, from a top uni, and thus had no reason for someone to hire for her sought work bar charity. People who work as they learn not only see the relevance and application of what they are taught, their value proposition and confidence are positive. I was at the point of encouraging her, to start up an online business before she found this job. The other child just started medicine this year, and is working in a hospital as part of the course immediately. There is something ironic in likely the most valued course having a similar teaching method as apprenticeships, and a similar economic and self confident outcome. I thoroughly value learning by doing.
@drwatchbreaker2914
@drwatchbreaker2914 3 года назад
As a Swiss trained watchmaker ( WOSTEP ) I fully endorse the model
@agnesagni
@agnesagni 3 года назад
College should be free, should be about raising social beings having a wider knowledge of the world and also ability of critical thinking. It is not about training cogs for the wheels of capitalism.
@whittakerdanielj
@whittakerdanielj 3 года назад
Not gonna happen. It is not a self-perpetuating economy like a traditional apprenticeship. Schooling is a place for ideologies, it could be a place for learning towards work, but the powers that be won't accept this.
@MammaApa
@MammaApa 3 года назад
Here in Sweden higher education is in fact free, but also yes, taxes are high. I'd say it's worth it though. Ignorance is the enemy of everyone.
@wandalee5010
@wandalee5010 3 года назад
Actually in some states in the USA, college at community colleges are free to students who have a C average and above. Taxes aren’t raised, they just don’t misuse the education lottery funds!
@whittakerdanielj
@whittakerdanielj 3 года назад
@@wandalee5010 That's awesome! Responsibility.
@hdog9046
@hdog9046 3 года назад
More and more people fail to get a job that takes advantage of their degree, so what benefit would society get from educating people who will never use their education?
@brianpalas
@brianpalas 3 года назад
I wish I had thought about apprenticeships back in 2014, before applying to colleges. I graduated with a BA in a liberal arts field in 2019, have a ton of debt, and still don't know what career path to follow, and have no skills (besides a recent TEFL certificate)
@hickory572
@hickory572 3 года назад
Go back to your CC and look in to what they have for you. They can help you more then you may think. What is it going to hurt?
@jordanmahonytheblindworld8483
@jordanmahonytheblindworld8483 3 года назад
I don’t think that you don’t have scales left you 100% do you have skills and I’ve seen Dr push it in your face I’m actually trying to help
@patgenier1965
@patgenier1965 3 года назад
Don't be scared to start at the bottom.. I learned to run tractors and shovel cow manure before I became a crane operator..
@hickory572
@hickory572 3 года назад
As a contractor looking for workers i go to highschools and i talk with kids and tell them about the trades. Tell them that yes it is nice to go to U of M. or to MSU but if they want a job that pays them now and does not give them bills for the next decade then think about going to the community colleges taking trade courses learn a trade. Start making 23+ an hour go to work 3 weeks and school 1 week out of every month. Be a mill right, plumber, electrician, pipe fitter, welder, carpenter.
@DrJustininJapan
@DrJustininJapan 3 года назад
I agree that apprenticeships for many years have been underrated while college degrees have been over emphasized. Great video!
@seekingfurtherlight34
@seekingfurtherlight34 3 года назад
my union apprenticeship essentially cost me nothing. I've been in the trade for over 13 years and now own my own business and a second business in real estate. None of which would have been possible without pursuing the trades.
@redporschekilla
@redporschekilla 3 года назад
Yes, I can relate, achieved my apprenticeship as a building drafter in Germany, which lead to a education in computer science and a climb of the “Ladder” to a VP of IT OPS for a large US based insurer, to a specialist in building and operating corporate data centers! I love Google and Wikipedia, but both can’t compete with the hands on teaching of an apprenticeship!
@TheLRider
@TheLRider 3 года назад
Snobbery pure and simple. I did a HND sandwich course in Electrical Engineering; college 6 months followed by six months in industry repeated for three years. What's not to like.
@zakarriyahburns7304
@zakarriyahburns7304 3 года назад
Here in California, the Employment Development Department and jobs training programming applies to community colleges as services.
@TheBurgessNetwork
@TheBurgessNetwork 3 года назад
I agree with this assessment. I have a BA in English and as time goes by the BA/BS degree becomes less valuable. A HS diploma is not going to help either. So the only solution I see is going to a cheap local college and get a degree there and avoid the expensive colleges including Ivy League schools. I got my degree from Columbia and many people don't care I went to an Ivy League school. Apprenticeships are not offered in many places in the US here so I would like to see more money put into creating apprenticeships. That way people have options. A perfect example of the value of apprenticeships is Leonardo de Vinci. He apprenticed under Andrea del Verrocchio and when he completed his training he was able to make a living as an artist! I would like to see America offer more artistic apprenticeships and prevent many people from becoming "starving artists." We need it in filmmaking - for ex - because a college degree does NOT guarantee a career in filmmaking. They offer it in the Ballet field and it works out very well. It keeps dancers making a living.
@bhimsaud900
@bhimsaud900 3 года назад
Great one
@wings808
@wings808 3 года назад
I am a Machinist and for the 20 years so far in my career, I average around 80k in annual wages. No degree whatsoever.
@easyrecipesanddeliciousfoo2954
@easyrecipesanddeliciousfoo2954 3 года назад
Sending love from a small RU-vidr 💖🌷💖🌷
@knowledgeandentertainmentadda
@knowledgeandentertainmentadda 3 года назад
Yes After Completion Of Education.. Really Need Apprenticeship Program's...
@user-ku5dl4fp2i
@user-ku5dl4fp2i 3 года назад
فديو جميل جدا بالتوفيق ان شاء الله روعه بجد 🥰💜
@KWizard__
@KWizard__ 3 года назад
"I wanted to be John Lennon" - The janitor in breakfast club
@Scorned405
@Scorned405 3 года назад
How do you get into a apprenticeship??
@elissabarton4265
@elissabarton4265 3 года назад
I'm working on getting into one and I found that states generally have apprenticeship programs and then you can figure out the career/sponsor from there.
@renehill3351
@renehill3351 2 года назад
Im leaving nursing and going into cosmetology to become a cosmetologist and eventually a master hairstylist with a focus on color. Most of my fiends are going to community college where they tell me they fell like they are learning nothing or to private cosmetology schools like Paul Mitchell where they have to take out a loan for 20,000 US dollars. I have chosen to join an apprenticeship where I learn hands on in an actual salon and go to class once a week and only had to pay $2,500 upfront and another $2,500 spaced out over two years. I am learning more then any of my friends and the funny thing is...after my friends graduate they still want to become a salon assistant/apprentice so they can learn how hair is actually done and learn all of the modern up to date styles. By the time they do that I will already have learned what I need to know and have my own clientele and be taking real clients. I strongly encourage apprenticeship programs, its really setting me up for a successful future and I also dont have 20 thousand dollars of debt. I'll actually graduate with no debt. AND my apprenticeship in the salon pays me hourly just like a job. I think I made a better choice then any of my friends., They are definitely not getting paid to go to school lol. Cant not say enough good about an apprenticeship program..what you learn in school and what is being done in the real world are two totally different things My friends do roller sets and perms over and over and over..I don't know many people getting perms or roller sets these days lol.
@jordanmahonytheblindworld8483
@jordanmahonytheblindworld8483 3 года назад
I agree with her because we should be saying to her future generation of children that you’re going to be broke when you go to college when going to the actual physical college should be there right there right to education
@charlotte2549
@charlotte2549 3 года назад
This kind of makes me want to not go to college but there's a lot that u can only get at college for me I hope to play in The WNBA for which I need to play in the NCAA and a degree is required for a contract maybe they should change that
@listenenglishamericantv1008
@listenenglishamericantv1008 3 года назад
❤️❤️❤️
@bambusleitung4422
@bambusleitung4422 3 года назад
For a european it is so weird to see how expensive college is...it is like 300€ in germany and u even get free public transport
@LemonHeadPenny
@LemonHeadPenny 3 года назад
If you want top out at middle management and have to always train your new boss....listen to this woman. APA ?
@alexandrebl1nd79
@alexandrebl1nd79 3 года назад
une traduction en Français est -elle disponible ?
@defan2105
@defan2105 3 года назад
Take the government grants and loans from College and they would have to be more competitive...not less. The more big government got into education, the more the price has gone up.
@defan2105
@defan2105 3 года назад
@@Dimitris_Balf It is like McDonald's food here. You can get a burger for a dollar but the same burger in the federal government (congressional offices cafeteria) costs about 8 dollars. If they use tax money, the price goes up. You say it is free in Europe but somebody is paying for it so what is the real cost? Look at SpaceX vs our government...the private sector is doing it better and for much less money.
@defan2105
@defan2105 3 года назад
​@@Dimitris_Balf I'm just going by what the Senate release...they actually said the same burger was $15.00. The only time competition doesn't work is if the government gets involved. We have Public sector unions that overpay teachers for not producing better students, we have the military paying for $500 hammer that costs $12-$15 dollars in private. They don't care about the people it is to get votes so the more money they can funnel to the unions, the more votes, and power they have. As for bombs, if the middle east didn't bother us or their neighbors we would be able to stay home but if they attack us, like on 9/11, they are lucky we don't level their entire country so it can't happen again. Palestine (via Hamas) keeps attacking Isreal with missiles so what is that country supposed to do, take 4,000 missiles and just sit back? If my neighbor kept shooting at me, I would fire back so they couldn't do it again. American is based on freedom and LIMITED government and daycare, education, all that is supposed to be an individual thing, not a government. If people don't like freedom, they are free to move to another country, not make ours into a 3rd world country. Why do you think so many want to come to this country? If paid education and all that is so great, they should be flocking not to the USA but to Europe or the Middle East. I never understood leaving a bad state or country to come here to change it into what you just fled.
@prabathmadusanka9812
@prabathmadusanka9812 3 года назад
@patricesilva8004
@patricesilva8004 3 года назад
I'm still paying my daughter's student loan and she still in my house working 2 jobs
@ReneesatItAgain
@ReneesatItAgain 3 года назад
Aww, Patrice!! Sometimes, they have to go back to what and why they chose their interest of study. It's tough, but not a lost cause.... lack of money and personal finance, financial needs is always stifling .... 2 jobs!
@betulgedik6254
@betulgedik6254 3 года назад
Hi love myself
@getfreemazes
@getfreemazes 3 года назад
isn't funny how doctors opinions always involve using their service
@user-ck7sg5ck3p
@user-ck7sg5ck3p 3 года назад
Why so fast?
@v838monocerotis9
@v838monocerotis9 3 года назад
0:29 among us
@balenhaidar4071
@balenhaidar4071 3 года назад
Have any kurdish in there?😞😁
@yahyeenaji8110
@yahyeenaji8110 3 года назад
The first rt one 😌
@cookiechokkate9340
@cookiechokkate9340 3 года назад
ur not
@pri.sci.lla.
@pri.sci.lla. 3 года назад
No you’re not
@pri.sci.lla.
@pri.sci.lla. 3 года назад
Apprenticeships are nice for some but not practical for really anyone studying STEM.
@bigspear4358
@bigspear4358 3 года назад
explain?
@joseaguirre744
@joseaguirre744 3 года назад
Explain?
@tl8601
@tl8601 3 года назад
That makes absolutely no sense.
@jordanwilliam7709
@jordanwilliam7709 3 года назад
Isn't it harder to get apprenticeships for stem programs....... i know in my country it's hard you need connections. I'm studying construction management and idk what I'm going to do after because of how difficult it is to penetrate the working world.
@LightRibbon
@LightRibbon 3 года назад
I’m undertaking an amazing data analytics apprenticeship with a major investment bank, so that’s got the maths part disproved
@ahmedragedhamed7743
@ahmedragedhamed7743 3 года назад
Auf Deutsche
@doaasaade9018
@doaasaade9018 3 года назад
Hello.. First comment
@cookiechokkate9340
@cookiechokkate9340 3 года назад
it's not the first
@doaasaade9018
@doaasaade9018 3 года назад
@@cookiechokkate9340 i don't care by the way
@rishab671
@rishab671 3 года назад
First
@cookiechokkate9340
@cookiechokkate9340 3 года назад
no
@pri.sci.lla.
@pri.sci.lla. 3 года назад
No you aren’t
@rishab671
@rishab671 3 года назад
@@pri.sci.lla. I was competing with myself only 😂😎
@beratkonyar5537
@beratkonyar5537 3 года назад
Kelimeler nerenden çıkıyor. Yavaş yavaş
@TerenceMa1989
@TerenceMa1989 3 года назад
Lol no
@penguntingbulutelurafro7421
@penguntingbulutelurafro7421 3 года назад
hi i am the first human being to comment in this video
@cookiechokkate9340
@cookiechokkate9340 3 года назад
ur not
@pri.sci.lla.
@pri.sci.lla. 3 года назад
@@cookiechokkate9340 yeah they were actually.
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