i feel true pity for those who look upon this character and see only an enemy of a game they heard about, never knowing what a legend they behold. were it so easy....
+Scratch Mcgrady I honestly don't know how Arbiter of sorts didn't just get a full fledged game for himself...way more interesting than human marines in space imo.
+Cykalord Considerimg he was the Commander of the Covenant armada that attacked Reach, and that you also fought in CE, I'd say he was an enemy. You just never fought him directly.
bruv I couldn't have put that any better myself. the sheer impact that the arbiter should have upon killer Instinct and it's players who care about the character lore is unquestionable
I seriously love how they used Impend as his idle theme. As a kid one of the things I associated most with the Arbiter's character arc is the level Uprising where Impend plays... where he realizes that the Brutes have turned on the Elites across the entire fleet at Delta Halo, and he goes across the complex leading the resisting Hunters, Grunts and Elites against the Drones, Jackals and Brutes... it makes it seem like a full blown civil war and a big part of his character is becoming a leader during this conflict. I remember sneaking past Brutes and slapping a grenade on the locks of the Hunter's cells and a single Elite Ultra and watched them tear into the jailers as more Brutes strolled in. The level was called Uprising and it was appropriate. Impend plays during this prison break, so to me, Impend as the idle theme is a great choice. Fuck, I miss Halo.
+idkwmgtis are you iffy about the story, or gameplay? Because the gameplay is leaning a whole lot more towards realism finally, and the story is, well, a story, and people will disagree with stories due to opinions. I personally love everything about the Halo universe, but I never hate stories or franchises.
WhisperedFlame The story is fine on its own, even if its execution was a bit off. Mechanically, I think the retcon to justify ADS was sloppy and aesthetically Spartans just don't look appealing to me. Like, the Spartans in Reach looked like a military today could have commissioned it for research. It looked believable while still maintaining the sense of science fiction and generally looks cool. I think Halo 5 and 4 lost that militaristic appearance and went straight sci fi and I lost the feeling that the Spartans were a military project. It almost feels commercial. I personally don't agree with the realism thing. I feel like Halo 1-3 had a science fantasy vibe to it in terms of aesthetic. It felt mysterious but futuristic and I liked it. Reach combined that with pure militaristic design - including a more realistic take on the Mark V armor - and that's so far my favorite design. Mechanically it's not realistic to me, either. 80 percent of my deaths in H5 MP are to shoulder charges, ground pounds, and grenades. Before that, it used to be primarily weapons, then melee, then grenades. The grenade spam in H5 is reaching Battlefield 4 (at launch) levels. People don't even bother shooting anymore, close combat is usually won by who happened to be sprinting at the time. While the shoulder charge makes sense for a sprinting Olympian in 2000 lb armor and I'm okay with its inclusion even if its a bit overused. Ground pounds makes little sense, but then again I feel that way about all games that include as its becoming ubiquitous and often has more splash damage and range than engineered weapons designed to have large splash radiuses. That seems illogical to me. TTK is super quick now. Maybe it's just me, but I miss feeling like a tank, as long as I was cautious and played well. sure you can live a long time in H5 by being cautious, but there's longer firefights. it seems like small bursts of fire and whoever fired first and happened to be aiming higher usually wins. I played H5 nonstop for a couple months and the medal for turning things around - which happened like 40% of the time in the old Halo's, moreso if your attacker got sloppy as they fired. Now I'll be fired on, return fire, watch them spray and miss but because they fired first I get dropped and they don't even realize it and keep firing half of the time haha. The Halo community is completely polarized. One half is completely cold to 343 and anything new (and I understand their frustration) while the other half feigns reasonability but won't accept any criticism of the games or their new direction. No one just talks about their different opinions anymore. Not everyone liked Halo 3 ODST and while there was always a small toxic community of bandwagon riders who expressed that as intelligently as any given fourth grader most fans of the franchise could discuss why and give and take criticism with a modicum of respect. Halo 5 man, it looked to be awesome story wise. I don't agree with most of the changes in MP but the campaign looked promising. All of the war stories about Chief getting warped to the point he's portrayed as a villain, all to serve as justification for ONI shutting him down to cover themselves and stop him from doing any damage. It's morally gray and that's awesome. I wanted it to make you question who was in the right; Did Chief fracture mentally and believes himself to be saving the world when he's really endangering what he used to protect? Or is Chief still the beacon of morality he always was, and ONI is just using the ambiguity to tie up a loose end ? That's the kind of stuff that can happen after a war that demanded ethically questionable choices. Halo 5 didn't explore that. It was two Spartan teams who lacked basic human communication skills and creating unnecessary conflict because of it. It was one of those things where all of the conflict between the Spartans could have been resolved if one of them just levelled with the other but instead they were both stubborn to a fault, that of the writers'. Not to mention that the potentially complex relationship between the Spartan II's and IV's. That could have been deep and complex but instead they're all buddy buddy, and frankly, given all of the things they had to struggle with, I can easily imagine any surviving Spartan II's could potentially even resent the IV's, the way some of the veterans from wars in the past few decades often criticize the modern military, not for ethical reasons but reasons of relativity, i.e. You guys only ruck with 25 pounds and only 12 miles? Haha we used to march with 60 and we weren't allowed to sling our weapons and it was 25 miles! Especially considering that the use of a Spartan used to be a solemn, necessary affair whereas now Spartan simulations are treated like sports, especially with how they act in and out of combat. MY favorite thing about 5 is the love they do give the older games. I use the Halo 2 BR in every warzone match, the M6D came back from Halo CE as a power weapon (Which was a really good idea), the needle rifle got a spiritual successor, Halo Wars Spartans in Mk IV got their armor set in the game, the concept art for MC in the first Halo got modeled and called the alpha version, which is a very nice nod (even though I would have appreciated the actual Mark V armor as seen in the games), Carter from Reach got an armor set, the carbine is viable again, and the free updates are seriously appreciated. Fan requested stuff makes it into updates which I seriously love, because I lamented the loss of firefight and now that it's back with the requisitions used in warzone cough Halo 2 BR cough and I thought I saw a plasma rifle in the trailer and that excites me. Those weapon revivals (Halo2 BR, Halo CE / ODST pistol) feel true to their originals. I've gone onto maps and tested the Halo 2 BR versus the BR 85HB from 5, and the BR 85 is technically superior in every way, (tighter spread, higher bullet velocity, faster cyclic ROF) as it would be irl, but I still perform better with the Halo 2 variant because it's familiar to me. I could go on for hours man. I used to be veeeeery passionate about the halo universe, and while I don't agree with a lot of 343's decisions and frankly, don't necessarily like their main sense of direction, I still follow the universe and on my Xbone I have every single Halo installed on it permanently; the only other game that has yet to be uninstalled from my Xbone is Killer Instinct, and that's another one of my favorite franchises. Did I mention how hype I am that they have Arbiter in KI? Omfg he's so fun. CE Elite ftw. Anyway man, I like talking about the Halo games with other fans regardless of how they feel about the newer or even older games. More than anything I want the Halo community to have some sort of solidarity the way it used to. Halo fans used to be able to talk to each other more or less disregarding their individual preferences in games. Now it's polarized and it quickly becomes toxic and anyone who misses the old games and haven't taken a liking to the new ones are afraind of evolution and "can just go play the old ones then" (seriously that's the reply I see to everyone, no matter how respectful they are initially) and fans of the new ones are just "fanboys who need to get off of 343's dick" (another ubiquitous reply) and because of the toxicity and defensiveness of both parties, they wind up taking shots at each other. Fans of 5 often take potshots at the old games and that spurs those fans to be more defensive about their tastes and throw more potshots in return. Sorry for the long reply! Like I said, I used to be very passionate about Halo - Clearly I still kind of am haha
The danger theme of Arbiter, it feels like you're making your final escape like in almost every Halo game, when you're in a vehicle, driving fast, and make it alive before the whole place blows
The Arbiter was more like a Chosen Representative from the Sangheili species. for a time it was a coveted Role until an Arbiter turned Heretic. A Central Figure for the Sangheili much like the Prophets for the San 'Shyuum. Post-war Description is still Accurate enough to be Correct but Before the War and During would need Correction important Enough that they are appointed like a Roman Style Dictator to Deal with Crisis. Much like Cincinnatus whom Cincinnati was named after being a Rare Boneveolent Dictator that I'd joking mention Reincarnated into George Washington since they both while good leaders expressed the desire to return home as farmers after they served a term as leader. (It was even known that if Washington didn't step in that a King would have Been Appointed where president Washington would have used his dictatorial power to forge his position from would be king to President, a Leadership Role forged in the Legitimacy of Democracy instead of a more Eternal Divine right used by monarchies as a gesture towards Secularism and ultimate disconnect of church and state (Arguably a Reason why the Constitution is not Held up as Responsibly as it should have been since despite it being the main limitation of Tyranism, It is not Religiously Consulted and Enforced Hence why we have laws like the Alien and Sedition act of 1918 or the National Firearms Act that Put Military Arms out of Civilian Buying power (Criminals could buy it more often now))) After the Heretic Arbiter Incident, It became a Penal-Martyr Role to Punish the most Heretical Sangheili since the mission would have killed them anyway. Ripa Moramee, the Second to last Arbiter before the collapse of the Covenant died Fighting in the Human-Covenant war. Erected by the Same Triumvirate of Prophets, Truth, Mercy, and Regret as Thel Vadamee for the same General Crisis, Humanity was the Covenant's most technologically Advance Enemy at this Point and Thel was Erected to Find and protect the next encountered Halo Ring since Thel himself was put Responsible for the Destruction of Installation 04 after a Vast Underestimation of Humanity especially at the silent cartographer where Arguably how the Flood outbreak Started being the De-activation of the Security System by Master Cheif. After the Collapse of the Covenant, Arbiter Thel Went Back Home to Rally a Civil war Against the False Covenant Religion. often allying with Humanity who was the first group to offer a hand after such a huge identity shakeup caused by the Covenant Civil war. not to mention Humanity was designated the Successor to the Forerunners in the Mantle of Responsibility (Arbie would have overheard this from the Monitors of 04 or 05 at some point if not by Other Luminaries Or the Fact that the Only Quick Way to the Ark was on the Human Homeworld, Earth/ Erda-Tyrene). The Covenant itself would have to Continue under the Created's Banner. so the Arbiter would have to side with Humanity's Decision to Disallow a Rogue AI and its own Army of AI and Former Covies. Especially if Thel Still Believed in the Forerunners as we'd Belive in the Romans as a Civilization to Aspire to be Or Replace. It Honestly Reminds me of the Warlord Era in China. The Banished would be like the Communists, Thel's Faction being what started the Uprising would be like the Kuomintang (Party Still Exists in Taiwan) and the Nationalists being Directly the Mental product of Sun yat sen's Tongmengui Revolution in 1911. the Covie loyalists would be the Qing (San Shyyum here), Beiyang Army (Didact's Hand Probably Here), Fengtian (Loyalists on Sanghelios), and the Manchurians (Created's Covenant) under Japanese Protectorate Status If the United States Breaks up like this under the Rot of its Own Constitution, I Wonder what might happen?
Ah HA! It's a remix of the Halo 2 soundtrack. The one that plays on the Delta Halo mission. You drop down in a ODST pod and walk out of it and grabs a rocket launcher. Very good.
@@anameorsomething894 I think they meant that you'll only play master chief, like Halo CE and 3, meaning that Arbiter CAN still make an appearance as an ally that fights on your side. knowing what road 343 is taking with infinite, i think that it's very likely that this will happen in some way.
@@OxbloodXIX Right, but more leaning towards chief, because it will support co-op and thatd be weird if arby was in it and other players dont play as him
the genius new age choral sound of halo mixed with the dynamic tone of killer instincts music, might be the best theme in the game so far in my opinion.
God i love this theme, especially the chorus. Its so Halo, so Arbiter! I do hope they add Cortana to the KI roster along with Joanna Dark and Skorge from Gears.
Unethical Garrogate Problem is most people don't even know what that means, or what Arbiter meant by it. W/e here's my mandatory Arby quote: "If they came to hear me beg, they will be disappointed"
+Skorpior You might want to check out the two Spartan Assault games' soundtracks both are done by Tom Salta (Atlas Plug). Not as metal as what's going on here, but good stuff none the less.
I think there is something to be said about fans making something better than what the company who produces the media puts out, i think it has something to do with a deep and sincere love for a piece of media and the need to just make another buck off of it.
While I myself never liked the idea of guests in fighting games like KI (as they may tend to distract from the games amazing roster) The Arbiter was an excellent choice. I played Halo series, loved it to fricken death, I grew up with KI and love KI2013 so two things I like put together!
I like how they put Arbiter and Raam instead of Master Chief and Marcus Fenix. It's like the creators sent a huge middle finger to Chief's and Marcus' Fans.
Actually I'm glad they did. I don't know much about GoW, but Arbiter really deserves to be in the spotlight more. If Chief died in Halo 6 and Arbiter replaced him as the main playable character, I wouldn't even be mad. Ok, I would be really mad, but just let me avenge him as Arbiter and we're all good.
I thought it would make for a good mix-up because when a game is about to have a crossover you expect the main protagonist, not a deuteragonist (secondary protagonist) and an antagonist ( bad guy)
I'd be totally for Arbiter taking the main character and series mascot role, but they'd need to refine his new design a bit. Looking at all the current official designs, Halo 2 Arbiter's body with Halo 3 Arbiter's armor looks best in my opinion.
Chief: Space Marine shoots aliens Arbiter: Divine Crusader is disgraced and takes revenge on the religious leaders that manipulated him and betrayed his people.
Whilst smash has samus, who is a chozo warrior, killer instinct has the arbiter, a covenant soldier, both are feared with their armour that was made long before they were born plus both are rivals to the spartan supersoldiers, with multiple arbiters fighting the spartans and samus fighting nicole in haloid, the inspiration for death battle
7 years later and 343 still hasn't made a theme as good as this. Ain't that messed up? Killer Instinct gave more respect to The Arbiter with one cameo than 343 has with their entire tenure
