Archaeogenetics (with Daniel Tabin)

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Daniel Tabin (Harvard University) presents on and answers questions about the emerging field of archaeogenetics. From a Zoom conversation recorded live with Jackson Crawford's Patreon supporters on December 17, 2023.
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@BobbyBermuda1986 8 месяцев назад

Lecturing tips for Daniel: slow down, stop apologizing, don't hedge so much. You do have authority to speak.

@arquebusierx 8 месяцев назад

It's something many of us struggle with, but with enough practice/confidence can be overcome!

@seanbeadles7421 8 месяцев назад

11:28 The term is Subfossil, if anyone is wondering.

@beepboop204 8 месяцев назад

cheers mate

@RCSVirginia 8 месяцев назад

The Quagga Project is one in South Africa that was started by conservationist Reinhold Rau who suspected from their skins and skeletons that the extinct Quagga was a subspecies of the Plains Zebra. Later DNA examination would confirm that identification. So, since 1987, volunteers and ranchers have been selectively breeding Southern Plains Zebras to create individuals that resemble the lost Quagga in appearance. The process is quite far along, and there are now the new Quaggas, ofttimes called Rau Quaggas after the conservationist who started the process, that have brown hindquarters nearly devoid of stripes like the original Quaggas.

@arkaig1 3 месяца назад

Good to see part 1 now too. Perhaps that also brings me to my questions over on part 2? Rechecking this one now. I'll recheck that other video next maybe. Thanks again!

@herdyhely3496 8 месяцев назад

You should try and get Razib Khan on to talk genetics, he is brilliant.

@bogdannarancic5763 8 месяцев назад

Some studies for people interested: Vikings: Margaryan et al. (2020), Rodríguez-Varela et al. (2023) Goths: Stolarek et al. (2023) Langobards: Amorim et al. (2018) Anglo-Saxons: Gretzinger et al. (2022) Celtic Britons: Patterson et al. (2021) Etruscans: Posth et al. (2021) Italic peoples: Antonio et al. (2019) Mycenaeans/Minoans: Skourtanioti et al. (2023) Italians/Greeks: Raveane et al. (2022) Sardinians: Fernandes et al. (2020), Marcus et al. (2020) Balkan populations: Olalde et al. (2023)

@nandam3779 8 месяцев назад

Fascinating. Thank you!

@aniketanpelletier82 8 месяцев назад

Thank you for covering this!

@AlfOfAllTrades 8 месяцев назад

It's the first time I've felt I had to slow down the playback... Fast talker, that man 🤣

@lakrids-pibe 8 месяцев назад

yep. 75% hehe

@briantaylor9475 8 месяцев назад

And he starts five sentences before he gets halfway through two more before finally finishing one. He needs to ditch the Red Bull and actually think about what he is going to say. Oh, and drop the incessant "uh, no yeah". I really wanted to listen to this but I only lasted four minutes. Sheesh!

@jj6051 8 месяцев назад

@@briantaylor9475 Being nervous is absolutely a thing, he had a lot of interesting stuff to say, I'd say it is well worth your time to still listen through the whole thing. Maybe in sessions?

@jarrettpage706 8 месяцев назад

My wife has him beat in the speed talk department.

@rdklkje13 5 месяцев назад

@@briantaylor9475 He's young. Jackson tripped him up by asking about things the other way around than how he'd planned to talk about them and hence included them in his presentation. In his efforts to be flexible and oblige the older (now YT) academic who'd invited him, and of whom he's a long-term fan, he got quite lost. Most people need to learn through experience that sticking to your own plan is generally the best option in situations like this. And most hosts similarly need to learn that more prior co-ordination with guests is usually helpful. In addition to this, either some variants of US English are becoming crazy fast, almost like Danish, or more and more people with (undiagnosed) ADHD participate in talks like this 🙃 Maybe both.

@Vlad1968ful 8 месяцев назад

The forum that Daniel spoke about - The GenArchivist Forum

@melissahdawn 8 месяцев назад

I always find it fascinating that archeosamples will have enough shared information to decide that I am descended from the same sample (or at least share a source) but, the closest modern match for the sample is a place that is not at all included in my family history.

@FlyxPat 8 месяцев назад

I read somewhere that anyone with English or maybe British ancestry could claim descent from Edward III or anyone alive in England/Britain then or earlier, same with anyone with European ancestry from Charlemagne or anyone alive then or earlier (in Europe). As you say. It’s called the ‘genetic isopoint’.

@hugonyyc 8 месяцев назад

Daniel, so much good info. Watched to the end. But you need to slow down, everyone is here to listen to you cause you the boss. Also Mr Crawford should jump in there once in a while lol.

@bombfog1 7 месяцев назад

Zoomers are difficult to listen to, that said I greatly appreciate the edification.

@tainicon4639 3 месяца назад

He talks more like a genomics guy than a zoomer… like the super nerd vibes

@bob___ 8 месяцев назад

Great discussion. Just to put in a comment on randomness, it's a mathematical concept used to model circumstances where cause and effect are too complex to observe or describe (or are unknown). Actual randomness doesn't happen in the tangible world, because the result would be an effect that is not attributable to a cause. This is not intended to criticize the work described in this presentation, because it's mathematical work.

@beepboop204 8 месяцев назад

under-determined =/= in-determinate v un-determinable, it is all higher level stuff which can be unpacked

@bob___ 8 месяцев назад

@@DarranUaM That's the discussion.

@jabezcreed 7 месяцев назад

75 percent is definitely a good speed. Great content, but totally his brain is running at a faster speed than mine. Appreciate the knowledge and the varied expertise recently.

@cdineaglecollapsecenter4672 8 месяцев назад

Ossified means bony. Fossilized means replaced by minerals.

@bjarnitryggvason7866 8 месяцев назад

Y-chromosome replacement by the Yamnaya intrusion into Europe seems shockingly abrupt and violent. Forget about paying these bands of Yamnaya herders tribute like the sedentary farmers would wrt to nomads like the Scythians, Alans and the Mongols later on. Seems that business model hadn't been invented back then so it's just a very brutal straight up near total replacement. 🤔

@RCSVirginia 8 месяцев назад

To @bjarnitryggvason7866 It could be a question of, "Do you want some of their wealth in the form of tribute, or do you want their lands and their women?"

@raptor4916 8 месяцев назад

@@RCSVirginiaand also their lands because you killed them?

@vv6533 8 месяцев назад

Interestingly enough there are no mass graves found in Asia (Iran and Indian subcontinent) like in Europe. Indo-European expansion into Europe was brutal.

@maggan82 Месяц назад

CWC brothers to Yamnaya, or possibly decendants. Guess we soon will know.

@tat1642 6 месяцев назад

So hard to watch for a non native English speaker, this speed is unintelligible

@cdineaglecollapsecenter4672 8 месяцев назад

Maybe you need different technology if you're farming more & herding less, or if you're more sedentary and less nomadic. Re Corded Ware people.

@williamliamsmith4923 8 месяцев назад

1:15:00 I think the data is not showing CW are descendants of Yamanaya particularly because the Y haplogroup of Yamanaya is R1b-L23 and that of CW is R1b-269 which are “cousins”.

@mrchewbacca3400 3 месяца назад

/jámnaja/, not /jamnája/.

@GriffinParke 8 месяцев назад

Steppe is probably better than Yamnaya as their Y-DNA doesn't match most European men, despite being genetically similar.

@r.hagenau3541 8 месяцев назад

Interesting. But please cut back the "ahs", the "likes", the "kind ofs", etc. Clear articulation also helps.

@GustavSvard 8 месяцев назад

Sounds like nervousness to me. Nervousness combined with being excited to talk about what interests you, combined with trying to not slide into jargon. Not as relaxing to listen to as Jackson's voice, but interesting still. And feels like he gets more comfortable along the way.

@cdineaglecollapsecenter4672 8 месяцев назад

Chimps are not ancestral to humans. Humans and chimps have a common ancestor, Where there's a variation in the genome between the two (humans and chimps), you can't determine which version is ancestral without other information.

@beepboop204 8 месяцев назад