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Archelos Lagoon Mystic card review 

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This commander got a cool land egg combo going for it. Something I used to play a long time ago. Back then it was a 3 card combo. But now with the commander, it could be easier to assemble.
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@dajosh96
@dajosh96 3 года назад
I’m lookin forward to seeing this deck in action if you actually build it :)
@cedhtv
@cedhtv 3 года назад
I am doing some tweeks to it now. I think I am going to play this on saturdays stream and see how it goes. Going to be an experiment at that point but we will see.
@dajosh96
@dajosh96 3 года назад
That’s how all brews start out anyway. Hoping it works!
@argonnas2
@argonnas2 3 года назад
I was thinking more of a stax build myself
@thevergemtg2518
@thevergemtg2518 3 года назад
I've started building this and there are a few cards I want to share. 1) Squandered Resources 2) Lotus Field/Vale 3) Everglades (there is a blue and green one also These all play off splendid reclamation lines. I have a bunch of other cards that I found that synergize well. Reply if you want to see them/discuss.
@jackhayes6969
@jackhayes6969 2 года назад
what are thet
@LoveBystroem
@LoveBystroem 3 года назад
Master oogway lookin pretty cool
@criscofields7242
@criscofields7242 3 года назад
Don't forget Sylvan Safekeeper!
@cedhtv
@cedhtv 3 года назад
That card definatly fits in this deck for sure.
@simianancestory1137
@simianancestory1137 3 года назад
Quick question for the loop with lands why not just use mystic sanctuary?
@cedhtv
@cedhtv 3 года назад
I have added it to my decklist actually. I was a bit sceptic at first about the island count. But I think it should be possible.
@simianancestory1137
@simianancestory1137 3 года назад
@@cedhtv tru with the island count but the commander says enter the battlefield untapped. And with this wording island count shouldn't matter of you control your commander. Unlike amulet of vigor which untaps lands that enter tapped. I feel that it is overall a nice replacement or add since it will ultimately sometimes have utility outside of the combo.
@uliketurtle
@uliketurtle 3 года назад
My favorite card now. I am making a deck right now I can't wait
@PiroMunkie
@PiroMunkie 3 года назад
Bold of you to assume I would attack with Archelos as a means to tap him.
@cedhtv
@cedhtv 3 года назад
There are others tricks you can do for sure. But attacking is a really simple way of doing it.
@Rathie645
@Rathie645 3 года назад
lol Thumbs up on vid for that song at the end alone.
@nonlinear3084
@nonlinear3084 3 года назад
cEDH lands deck tech?
@cedhtv
@cedhtv 3 года назад
Yes, when I have something more structured I might make a deck tech video off it.
@nonlinear3084
@nonlinear3084 3 года назад
@@cedhtv excllent
@VittamarFasuthAkbin
@VittamarFasuthAkbin 3 года назад
@@cedhtv that would be amazing!
@TDQC88
@TDQC88 3 года назад
Have you gotten to play with this yet? I'm going to build Archelos and the land combos seem awesome!!
@cedhtv
@cedhtv 3 года назад
I did. I think I have 2 games recorded from stream but I haven't edited it yet.
@TDQC88
@TDQC88 3 года назад
@@cedhtv awesome!! Can't wait to watch them! How did it play? Any changes to the deck list you would make?
@cedhtv
@cedhtv 3 года назад
The deck won 2/4 games I think. Was some time ago now. I think I might lean more into ad nauseam as the land count is kinda high we could get a good ad nauseam result from that honestly.
@STATICKILO
@STATICKILO 3 года назад
I can see running an earthcraft in this.
@lucasbuff8451
@lucasbuff8451 3 года назад
A masterpiece at the end wow
@FlyFoxAir
@FlyFoxAir 3 года назад
What other cedh lands combos are there? (Them being your favorite and all)
@cedhtv
@cedhtv 3 года назад
You have infinit turns with a land I don't remeber the name of. Valakut is my personal favorit. There is the gate thing but that isen't soo good. yeah. might be more. Mostly I have lands for utility. But sometimes like in thise case suddenly you can make combos with them.
@FlyFoxAir
@FlyFoxAir 3 года назад
@@cedhtv I meant land combos in general, not strictly for this commander, maybe for Golos or something
@genbu2870
@genbu2870 3 года назад
I will try to build turtle tribe with stax and cedh elements
@bigdon9999
@bigdon9999 3 года назад
Zuran orb is infinite life isn’t it?
@cedhtv
@cedhtv 3 года назад
Yes it would be.
@prosamis
@prosamis 3 года назад
There's one biig land combo I believe you're missing that doesn't require the big mana and land setup of splendid + mirror pool Deserted temple + magosi, the waterveil with the commander is infinite turns for just 4 mana every turn(and your land for turn) High risk, certainly, but without disruptions, it's high reward And, at least, dodges counterspells that can't hit activated abilities, unlike splendid And just needs these two /lands/
@ernic11
@ernic11 3 года назад
Doesn't work, unfortunately. Magosi makes you skip the extra turn you would get. Can't be done with Proliferate either (Karn's Bastion); you'd have to use Nesting Ground to move eon counters around :/
@prosamis
@prosamis 3 года назад
@@ernic11 you skip the next turn, THEN get an extra turn. Do the same every turn, it works (but when you pass, you practically never get your turn again)
@ernic11
@ernic11 3 года назад
@@prosamis check the oracle text, it doesn't work that way. You skip the next turn you WOULD take.
@prosamis
@prosamis 3 года назад
@@ernic11 just checked, you're right Damn It doesn't say you /would/ take, but that's what it meant Guess I'll have to copy the activated ability to take 2 extra turns for this to work
@markmecha3100
@markmecha3100 3 года назад
I'm building this deck for cedh, I'll send a list as soon as the primer is ready
@argonnas2
@argonnas2 3 года назад
Was planning to make this deck
@cedhtv
@cedhtv 3 года назад
Really. You seam to build everything just like me.
@argonnas2
@argonnas2 3 года назад
Lol great minds mons, also im a stax boy at heart and this boy screams stax and tax
@Crazymachin3gun
@Crazymachin3gun 3 года назад
I wish gitrog combo could fit
@cedhtv
@cedhtv 3 года назад
A bit expensiv but maybe.
@Crazymachin3gun
@Crazymachin3gun 3 года назад
@@cedhtv unless u want to run adnaus mana bonds as a combo so u win at the endstep
@crovax1375
@crovax1375 3 года назад
I would use Squandered Resources with land sac loop to simplify getting infinite mana
@adalbertschwahfel1532
@adalbertschwahfel1532 3 года назад
I'm going to call this deck 'Turtle Eggs'. Would love to see a second video on this. I think some cards that are good in Gitrog might be a nice fit for this deck as well.
@MasterDecoy1W
@MasterDecoy1W 3 года назад
The text formatting (not using the whole name the second time) was a change instituted around Dominaria (I think) to reduce the amount of text they need to use. It mostly applies to legends, because they usually have a proper name and title. WotC ruled that after fully stating the card name once in the text box, further instances could drop the title and still be sufficiently understood as [CARD NAME] and not generically referring to any other versions of the legend that might exist.
@vooshPOW
@vooshPOW 3 года назад
Aren't you going to review Hullbreacher? I see it almost as much of a format changer as Opposition guy.
@cedhtv
@cedhtv 3 года назад
I am planing on doing a big pirat video review actually. But I wanna w8 untill all cards from the set are reveled. But I guess hullbreacher deservs its own video actually.
@lovelandfrogman2136
@lovelandfrogman2136 3 года назад
I replied before I read the comments; Ido Sherman I’m on the same page as you! Hullbreacher is nuts especially in my Nekusar/Kess Wheel Storm deck
@GREEDxAXED
@GREEDxAXED 3 года назад
I was looking to see how I could make this viable without going a complete Stax route and didn't think land theme would be viable. Thank you for shedding some light!
@GREEDxAXED
@GREEDxAXED 3 года назад
Just thinking about it now, you could always throw in a storm card as a back up win.
@cedhtv
@cedhtv 3 года назад
@@GREEDxAXED I think there are a few possible combo options we could go for. It is hard to say ATM. Needs play testing.
@m1gr3nA
@m1gr3nA 3 года назад
@@GREEDxAXED mirrorpool does not increase number of spell cast if that is what you mean. you would need something to inflate storm count. old omniscience legacy decks used petals of insight to inflate storm count and find actual storm card. i'm interested if there are other options to do this more efficiently.
@ivepesusic8792
@ivepesusic8792 3 года назад
so...stax with land theme? XDD stax is not a deck but style of life
@NatNatNutmeg
@NatNatNutmeg 3 года назад
The thing with Archelos being condensed is actually a thing with all legendary creatures that mention the cardname more than once, fun fact
@Crazymachin3gun
@Crazymachin3gun 3 года назад
Also squander resources seems really good just as a fast mana into the combo
@cedhtv
@cedhtv 3 года назад
It is in the deck. Great card in generall too soo.
@mikestephens267
@mikestephens267 3 года назад
Any thought to including some elements to keep our turtle tapped? Thus you get a stax-y effect out of him. For example I think Earthcraft would be a natural fit (although if so - you might need to add a few basics) or even things like Springleaf Drum.
@thenewlollipopjam8248
@thenewlollipopjam8248 3 года назад
You can also include other mana elements, like Springleaf Drum and Cultivator's Caravan.
@thenewlollipopjam8248
@thenewlollipopjam8248 3 года назад
Oh nvm Caravan is crew 3. But Silent Submersible would work just as well, and help you draw cards.
@mikestephens267
@mikestephens267 3 года назад
Seems like Mons liked our suggestion, Springleaf Drum - added to main deck.
@soulcedh804
@soulcedh804 3 года назад
Master Oogway and winter orb had a baby
@cedhtv
@cedhtv 3 года назад
haha. yeah.
@shaunmcisaac782
@shaunmcisaac782 3 года назад
It's not like you're prohibited from having ThOr/D-Con in this deck as a secondary plan. But I do think it'll be more tier 2 as he does cost 4 and doesn't win on the spot.
@VittamarFasuthAkbin
@VittamarFasuthAkbin 3 года назад
do you think going the full stax route might be a viable way to play Archelos in a tier 2 deck? Having one of the disrupting pieces for stasis and the orbs as a commander is quite unique.
@Vervos
@Vervos 3 года назад
Tappy Turtle was definitely the commander that caught my attention the most, but of course Opposition Agent and Hullbreacher stole the show.
@Isolanporzellator
@Isolanporzellator 3 года назад
A handful of disconnected thoughts for lands strategies that may or may not be useful for the deck: Sylvan Safekeeper, Squandered Resources and Zuran Orb can sacrifice lands whenever necessary with a beneficial effect. Lotus Vale, Lotus Field and Scorched Ruins sacrifice lands as a cost for entering the battlefield and tap for 3-4 mana. Glacial Chasm sacrifices a land and can also be used to disrupt any damage based win condition, e.g. Kiki combo or Finale of Devastation among others. Coral Atoll can tap for 1U then sacrifice itself since it's an actual ETB trigger. Elvish Reclaimer, Scapeshift and Crop Rotation sacrifice lands and tutor for lands. Scapeshift actually seems really fun with Archelos. Not sure about the wording on Rain of Filth. If a land enters after this is cast, could it still be sacrificed or do only lands that are on the board when it resolves get the effect?
@cedhtv
@cedhtv 3 года назад
Rain of Filth dosen't work. They gain the ability on resolve and lose it when they leave. Humm scapeshift could actually be a thing for this deck.
@lzan4gi
@lzan4gi 3 года назад
Any news on your decklist for this beauty? :)
@cedhtv
@cedhtv 3 года назад
Well this is how it looks like ATM: www.moxfield.com/decks/MLQIum4GNk--pxaCp6BtoA
@martinjechurch
@martinjechurch 3 года назад
What about the karoo lands as part of the loop? They can provide 2 mana, one of which being colourless for mirrorpool and then you can decline to sac an untapped basic and it will destroy itself
@cedhtv
@cedhtv 3 года назад
I did think about them. I might add the blue one for the scry ability. But I am not sure yet.
@martinjechurch
@martinjechurch 3 года назад
@@cedhtv the trouble with that one is it's a replacement effect, so if you don't sac an untapped island it hits the bin straight away, or stays there from a splendid reclamation etc, it never enters the battlefield. I was thinking the more basic karoo lands with just the etb sac an untapped basic or sac the karoo land, but they are probably too clunky tbh, the floor is pretty low if that's a land you have to play in the first few turns rather than as part of the combo
@sceadumor
@sceadumor 3 года назад
What do you think of Scryb Ranger/Quirion Ranger Stasis Tropical Island/ Breeding Pool/ Zagoth Triome
@cedhtv
@cedhtv 3 года назад
Hummm. That is intreasting. I would only play it togheter if the cards are good on their own alredy inside the deck. For example you should have a commander like derevi that alredy like stasis so to say.
@sceadumor
@sceadumor 3 года назад
@@cedhtv I run it them in my Derevi deck. I also use Vannifar and Yisan. I think it would be good in Archelos because they synergize with his effects. Since he makes their stuff enter tapped (when he's tapped) it's one less piece one has to draw. His untap replacement effect allows Breeding Pool and Zagoth Triome to enter untapped for Stasis. Plus they work really well with Bloom Tender under stax effects. I'd also run Amulet of Vigor as redundancy and incase I want to keep Archelos tapped. My only complaint with Archelos is he's not Bant or sans red.
@revelmonger
@revelmonger 3 года назад
I'm so glad to see other people loving this commander
@cedhtv
@cedhtv 3 года назад
I am a lands player. Whenever I can play land strategys I am sold. So this is a commander I really wanna build and try to work.
@darkrai205
@darkrai205 3 года назад
i honistly love him for the fact hes in my pris deck that has ways of tapping creatures for mana just hes fun
@chillinon3263
@chillinon3263 4 месяца назад
I've been looking at a couple of your fun land deck ideas like this and Soul of Windgrace now that we have gotten more Splendid Reclamation effects recently and on the way (Aftermath Analyst + Lumra, Bellow of the Woods). Whilst lands are certainly not a real cEDH archetype, this kind of thing makes me really happy, would love to know if you've played around with more recent brews
@nitrodavid
@nitrodavid 3 года назад
how cool is it to shut down Dockside extortionist? basically removing that wincon, would you run free from the reel to be able to tap and tap/untap him at any time you want?
@albertofraccaroli6795
@albertofraccaroli6795 3 года назад
As I saw I finally had the commander for my turtle tribal. Not exactly competitive but You know.... Life is not a race...
@g33kaholic24
@g33kaholic24 3 года назад
PLEASE do an official deck tech. XD
@cedhtv
@cedhtv 3 года назад
one i have something i belive in. you can count on my showcasing it. but i wanna playtest it and find something i belive in first.
@g33kaholic24
@g33kaholic24 3 года назад
@@cedhtv okay! :) thank you!
@OpusCulo13666
@OpusCulo13666 3 года назад
I instantly thought of the OG Turbo Stasis combo from the black summer. mtg.gamepedia.com/Turbo_Stasis
@lovelandfrogman2136
@lovelandfrogman2136 3 года назад
ERMAGERDDDD MONS can you just talk about how good Hullbreacher is already? Lol
@IceForPvMGaming
@IceForPvMGaming 3 года назад
I want to see you build this. It seems really interesting
@Brassgnat
@Brassgnat 3 года назад
Tomb of Urami Might be a good fit
@cedhtv
@cedhtv 3 года назад
Hummm. There have to be better lands we can play then that. Not so sold on it.
@Brassgnat
@Brassgnat 3 года назад
@@cedhtv I only suggested Tomb of Urami so you dont have to strip mine your own lands and you can hit your opponents lands instead and still get the rest of your lands into the graveyard
@jemm113
@jemm113 3 года назад
A good infinite mana outlet in these colors are Torment of Hailfire or a labman finish.
@Lasor4
@Lasor4 3 года назад
Sse vehicles to play him and tap him immediately (which is why I am sad he isn't white)
@jgmclellan
@jgmclellan 3 года назад
With the mirror pool loop and strip mine i play you can also strip all your opponents lands
@NeuroDevCoach
@NeuroDevCoach 3 года назад
Arch = great, Chelonia = turtles
@tristownsproductions7472
@tristownsproductions7472 3 года назад
I personally didn't bat an eye at this card bit now that you showed me what it could do it seems powerful amd budget friendly for the main combo
@cedhtv
@cedhtv 3 года назад
I don't know if it is really that broken or bonkers yet. But budget cEDH this should definatly be a cool budget deck. Hummm I guess I could try and make a budget deck tech for it.
@Kryptnyt
@Kryptnyt 3 года назад
I love the turtle boy and I look forward to getting one
@g33kaholic24
@g33kaholic24 3 года назад
WHERE IS THE DEDICATED DECK LIST IVE BEEN WAITING SO LONG
@bastionsea2829
@bastionsea2829 3 года назад
Landfall, don't need the mana, just the land
@DutchSnake
@DutchSnake 3 года назад
Why does the first card comes into my mind is Stasis? Pretty hilarious if you can work around it.
@Kallistosprom
@Kallistosprom 3 года назад
Vehicles - mario cart deck
@thepyromancer1332
@thepyromancer1332 3 года назад
You can play th sultai colored bouncelands in this deck. Probably a lot of exploration effects to make the strip mine/crucible combo better and because its a land deck. You can also use things like nevinyrrals disk if you want.
@Puddlesyahomie
@Puddlesyahomie 3 года назад
Please for the love of all things that are turtles make a deck tech on this turtle. I love the idea and can’t wait to see what it becomes. I’m going to start a build for myself but i would love to see what you do with it especially after your valakut deck. One of my favorites to play.
@amosherrera3007
@amosherrera3007 3 года назад
Can you do a review on Obeka!? (:
@cedhtv
@cedhtv 3 года назад
Maybe. Can't promis but if I have time for it I might be able to slip it in.
@jeremyreguer4182
@jeremyreguer4182 3 года назад
I'm playing a muldrotha lands deck with Gitrog lines, tatyova lines, and consultation. I might need to switch commanders now!
@Iguessimhere154
@Iguessimhere154 3 года назад
Huh, land shenanigans is a pretty interesting deck tech. Kinda reminds me of the frog considering how the frog also plays with lands
@cedhtv
@cedhtv 3 года назад
I actually had this combo inside gitrog once.
@agenecrobiosis
@agenecrobiosis 3 года назад
Hi Mons what do you think of adding lands that tap for 2 mana but that normally come in tapped such as Hickory Woodlot?
@jaibell4835
@jaibell4835 3 года назад
I think this combo with Duran orb would be really good inside thrasios, vial smasher as well
@paulkia1669
@paulkia1669 3 года назад
I'm trying to implement the pickels lock in my Archelos Lagoon Mystic deck
@kend6916
@kend6916 3 года назад
Excellent video! Lands is also my favorite archetype.
@thyronebennett1170
@thyronebennett1170 3 года назад
Woah spiceeee
@cedhtv
@cedhtv 3 года назад
Yeah this is a thing on its own.
@chewywookie5223
@chewywookie5223 3 года назад
Already have the deck built just need him (:
@nlamothe
@nlamothe 3 года назад
Dangit, that song... Heading to Patreon.
@bastianrhone9390
@bastianrhone9390 3 года назад
This with derevi shenanigans is neat in sisay
@tqbrowne
@tqbrowne 3 года назад
I have a soft spot for lands decks. Looking forward to sitting down and taking a closer look at your list.
@cedhtv
@cedhtv 3 года назад
Same. I really like land strats.
@kaeltxwz
@kaeltxwz 3 года назад
looking foward to a potential turtle shaman deck tech in the future
@cedhtv
@cedhtv 3 года назад
Me too. I think I am going to play this on saturdays stream and see how it goes. Going to be an experiment at that point but we will see.
@revelmonger
@revelmonger 3 года назад
No Sylvan Scrying?
@cedhtv
@cedhtv 3 года назад
I actually didn't play it in my old version of this. Black tutors usally did the job. But we will see maybe it gets in there.
@rubikx6097
@rubikx6097 3 года назад
YESSSSSS thank you so much for covering this card
@cedhtv
@cedhtv 3 года назад
Np. I think this could be a commander I am going to like.
@grimwatch5974
@grimwatch5974 3 года назад
This is assuming I have a mirror pool in play when I cast reclamation correct?
@cedhtv
@cedhtv 3 года назад
Yes. You have to have mirrorpool in play.
@KoiPondDreams
@KoiPondDreams 3 года назад
Use crop rotation to get a better chance at getting it into play
@jemm113
@jemm113 3 года назад
Or with your commander out, you can scapeshift into the land half of the combo. And blue let's you tutor instants, green grabs you the creatures, and black is universal tutors so grabbing the right creatures and spells may not be a huge hassle.
@KoiPondDreams
@KoiPondDreams 3 года назад
That's spicy. I love it!!
@viniekoza
@viniekoza 3 года назад
The final song was so funny! Thank you for the video!
@cedhtv
@cedhtv 3 года назад
Your welcome Vincius.
@viniekoza
@viniekoza 3 года назад
Now me and my friends want to see your build for this Commander. Can you please brew one? Thanks!
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