You mentioned the "era of hating Sonic's friends" I remember that well. A big thing with Sonic 4 was that it was *just* Sonic & Eggman. I always wondered why there was such a huge backlash to the supporting Sonic cast. I'm glad people have come back around to them!
Yeah, I think it started with "Sonic Heroes" but I honestly loved all the characters and different personalities they had in it. Plus it brought back the Chaotic, and I'm a sucker for bringing back obscure characters. (You can imagine how Happy I was when Fang came back, though shame like Mighty and Ray he's not allowed in the "modern" canon...)
@@TheDoughboy1917 that era to me is also synonymous with the “self-hating” Sonic fan. This was around the post 06 era where the games were really struggling. Chris Chan’s discovery along with a greater visibility to the weirder sides to the fandom contributed heavily to the negative discourse surrounding Sonic at this time. This is also the era of the infamous IGN clip “Sonic was never good”. The fans that were left were basically having to shill the classic games exclusively to outsiders and try to make it sound as if Adventure and Heroes ruined the franchise with the additions to the cast. Never mind that Mario had been adding characters for years and they have less personality than Sonic’s extended cast. It was a hard time being an open Sonic fan from 2006-2010 without being called a furry automatically as a slur along with other things I won’t mention here.
It's weird, cause Mario also has "Stupid Friends", Every franchise of all mediums has side characters or "Stupid Friends". Never really understood why Sonic gets criticized for something so basic, Like in most cases, having some side characters is to be expected. Cause if you don't, then the world just kinda feels very Empty.
You hit the nail on the head in the first 30 seconds! What defines Big's personality isn't stupidity, it's _simplicity._ He isn't a brave hero standing up against evil, an anti-hero who is indifferent to the world, or anything in-between. He's just a big fuzzy guy who wants to spend his day going on a pleasant and peaceful fishing trip with his tiny best buddy. He has a sweet but simple goal in life, and that's why he's one of my top favorites! :^D
@@CountDVB Ian thinks Mighty and Bark are stronger than Knuckles? I could see them being at least as strong but he's been stated several times to be as strong as Sonic is fast, and Sonic is the fastest thing alive so like
@@Mysticgamer Which is definitely weird in Archie's case considering the Mobians are supposed to have 3 toed paws yet big is still shown with blobfeet, maybe he's just really furry ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Archie and prime in my opinion are definitely the best versions of big he’s actually treated like a character and not just meme and his personality is kept intact He’s also just adorable in prime
Archie Big is basically someone who’s rather insightful, eccentric and calm that happens to be a powerhouse whom is only matched by Knuckles and Mighty. Shame he never fought Scourge or even Doctor Fintivus because there’s potential between him versus either a manipulative sociopath with a bad attitude or a cold-hearted genocidal scientist who makes schemes upon schemes.
This is Big. Big is nice, protects his friends, and likes the simple things in life. Be like Big. (I haven’t even read the Archie run and he is already my favorite character).
Big was one of those characters that was hated just because the fandom told you to hate him but he’s always been an awesome, kind hearted cat who just wants to vibe.
Bro I would love for him to eat a bit, that friend.They both like or them trying to start sharing and just get plenty of fucking implant.It's cool floor
Oh he'd be *the* person that pulls Surge and Kit out of their funk. Simple he may be, but Big is just the breath of fresh air the two need. No manipulative scum like Clutch and Mimic, no sermons of right and wrong from people like Sonic, just give Surge and Kit someone that would treat them like normal people. Big's constant traveling to fish would probably be an enjoyable experience.
Honestly, given how Ian's personal opinion is that Big is the strongest Mobian in raw power (beating out even Mighty and Bark), he might be strong enough to actually fight the TItan Metal Sonic.
I really like Big’s Big Adventure in IDW comics, where he’s just a himbo that really cares about his friend Froggy, and wants to make sure that Froggy is safe. It’s so horrifying and sad watching Big getting infected while cuddling Zombot Froggy. All this in a SIDE-COMIC.
Well I think they should do is since big likes to fish, that he should be an allegory for Sonic to learn patience, although Sonic is a Great hero he likes to jump into situations without thinking or waiting, so having Sonic hanging out with big Moore would teach him to just SLOW DOWN.... Also because Big likes to sit down and see the sights, I imagine although maybe not book smart I do think he would be WISE, in making moral decisions. Something that a lot of Sonic characters could learn.
The wisest chad who knows how to take things simple with a truly enviable position who just wants to chill with his frog friend and help out if his strength is needed.
That assessment of Big as being like Totoro is actually perfect! And personally, the way I've always seen it is that he's kind of the "Sloth" to Cream's "Chunk". (that ref being for all of my fellow 80s kids) And that he's sort of an adopted member of Cream's family. =)
i feel like the possible funniest implication of big's answers from the post-super genesis wave is that it's entirely possible that by some miracle he _does_ remember, but just does not care in the slightest about the universal reboot because there's no immediate problem for him to deal with
Can we all just appreciate how well drawn Ron Lim's art is in the Archie Sonic Super Special? (Starts at 2:58, ends at 4:13) It actually looks good here!
In some ways, as one of my favourite characters from Sonic, I guess it's kind of a good thing Big was so heavily memed on in hindsight considering where we are now. It managed to keep him relevant to a degree that SEGA or Sonic Team thought he was good enough to return for spin-offs like Sonic Rumble and even the mainline entries as seen with Frontiers. Heck he even was heavily rumoured to appear in the second Sonic Movie as a cameo in a cut scene that was similar to bar one in the final movie. And seeing the later Archie issues start to treat like a character and less of a joke was really sweet. Hopefully IDW will eventually do the same for him. I think Big's "biggest" role in IDW so far was during the Zombot saga if I'm not mistaken which is certainly a while ago now. And even then that was just a small side story.
Oh my god, a video thats just perfect at capturing one of my favorite characters, thank you Everyone always hates on Big and call him stupid or something, it makes being a fan of him hard cause you got people hating on him for being so simple, or hating on him for being on amy and creams team and assume hes creepy or someshit. Big has always been a character close to me, and I think it's cause I can see similar autistic traits that I have, in Big. They'd probably never confirm anything, but having be so oblivious to tone and straight forward with his goals and wants hits close to home for me. I love Big the Cat, and I hope he keeps getting used more
The Wolf Pack and the Felidae would still be fighting, and Sally wouldn't be alive if Big didn't go in the fortress. This is why I like the Archie Sonic comics, they will sometimes focus on other characters, not just Sonic.
Big arguably has the best theme from adventure, such a bob to mellow out to, but how can you not love this big lug. Good hearted, strong, and simple to a fault. In a way, he’s kinda like Kirby.
i love big as a "civilian hero" and i think idw could include that without even having him be in focus, just put him in the background while sonic and the gang are fighting whatever eldritch horror or big death robot eggmans got this time you see big shielding some kids from the rubble, and in the aftermath while the main gang are doing exposition you see him trudging along doing clean up, hes not a fighter but he still saves people
I guess. Sonic characters are all just Dragon Ball characters. Tails is Krillin, Knuckles is Piccolo, Shadow is Vegeta, Silver is Trunks and there's probably more that I don't know about since I've never really watched Dragonball.
@@windscar15 I guess, I'm not familiar with Dragonball. I probably misspelled all the names. Isn't Trunks Vegeta's son btw? Imo that would confirm Shadow to be Silver's ancestor.
No, because Big gets shit done even if things aren't dire but Yajirobe only contributes if things are really bad. They are also very similar in that they are very simple people. Yajirobe likes to eat and be lazy and Big likes to fish
Even though he probably was (literally and figuratively) thrown to the Wolves to be an expendable by whoever leads the Cat Country, I’ll consider my personal alternative that Big was sent in because he was one of the best diplomatic negotiators of Cat Country I mean his direct way of speaking implicates the staunch finality of whatever he demands or an immediate answer to whatever he asks, he’ll stand ten toes down on whatever orders he’s given against all parties, not to mention as an experienced fisherman(cat) he’s probably got an ocean’s worth of patience to deal with whomever he’s talking back and forth with as he explains and counteroffers the other party’s demands... and now looking at my list of reaching, I probably gaslit myself into legitimately thinking Big might actually a decent diplomatic negotiator
I need to read Archie (I just keep pushing it off alot lol) but this why everyone should love big. He just a chill guy who loves fishing and loves helping his friends. What else can you ask for.
Rosy is Not Only The Rascal in Sonic Archie But Rosy Also Happens To Be The Queen Of Corona Just Like In The Song Called Me And Julio Down By The Schoolyard
People don’t like Big because he came before all the other characters people don’t like. He’s the original target of unlike-atude. Fuck those people. The games had almost zero explicit plot before Adventure. It and its character driven story/plot did more to expand the world of Sonic than the so-called classic games. Also his fishing mini games rule. Totally unexpected but cool addition to an awesome game. Just gotta learn how to play 'em properly
