Architecture school is a joke...

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Why is it that architecture schools continue to glorify the late-night hours, the overworking, overpaying lifestyle. If they at least prepared students for the real world, I'd look the other way. But nooooooooo... you overpay, spend your life making bs models, for what?! To get to the office on day 1 and realize that you know NOTHING and have to be trained from scratch?!

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@Moochers 5 дней назад

Some videos that you might be interested in : 3 Times that architecture destroyed me: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-JX4B8VitkKc.html Before you quit architecture, watch this: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-x68QsadE6tU.html The truth about architecture that no one wants to talk about: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-U-34uzbdEik.html Why you're over architecture (and how to fix it): ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-RdqbaP206hk.html 5 pros on becoming an architect: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-qtXedHHl8YE.html 5 cons on becoming an architect: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-qtXedHHl8YE.html What if you hate your (architecture) boss?: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-mU63PgmCq90.html

@e.s.1873 4 дня назад

You speak directly out of my soul! I am now at the end of the Master, only missing my thesis. Here in Austria its exactly the same. Its more like an art school than anything else. One professor also warned us in the first semester that this school doesnt prepare you for the job life and we have to basically learn all by ourselves...

@Moochers 3 дня назад

At least you got an honest professor! Good luck with your studies and your career.

@ivan0797 5 дней назад

Loved this rant Mooch. You hit the nail in the head. I had A LOT of classmates who drew really beautiful sections and were good at editing at photoshop and modeling who, to this day, are frustrated at work when they have to coordinate plumbing with the engineers or drawing structural details.

@Moochers 5 дней назад

Thanks man! It's really unfortunate to hear that but it does happen often. Those guys that are really good at arch viz should try and get careers within that realm. What bothers me the most is that school will actually teach you how to hone these skills then when you graduate tell you "well, you have to pay your dues and your dues include just drafting for years!" If they're going to encourage arch viz then they should have partnerships with firms that specialize in arch viz so that they could hook them up with jobs! Hope that you're doing well!

@MatthewDunson 6 дней назад

This video is probably the best explanation of my personal career path through architecture school. I was fortunate enough to attend 2 semesters of undergrad architecture school which eventually led me to a job offer that I could not overlook. I had taken both Architecture and Engineering classes in high school and the 4-year class specialized in Architectural Drafting & Design. From day 1, I jumped straight into Drafting which is what I was interested in and understood early on that this is a skill that is not necessarily taught well in undergrad architecture. I have competed and placed in state and national competitions in high school which emphasized heavily on technical drafting while still teaching the methods of design. When I entered into undergrad, I immediately felt the disconnect that this is more structured for design over actually knowing the technical aspects of how to construct a building. I believe that undergrad architecture is designed in a way to teach people how to design things which is an important skill to know if you are barely being introduced to the career of architecture, but it lacks the ability to teach the other side of architecture which is the knowledge of sustainability in using materials and knowing how the structure is built that is explored more in post-grad architecture school. As a working architectural draftsman, I am helping clients daily to design their projects while referencing local building codes, creating working construction drawings, and being able to design spaces that fit the client's needs. My design philosophy is knowing at least a general idea of how a building will be constructed when in the design phase since these are going to be the overarching factors that determine if a project moves forward or not based on budget, sustainability of materials, etc. and I can still learn how to be innovative and creative with these limitations that are normal for a typical construction project. It is unfortunate that undergrad architecture school focuses heavily on the design and ideology of space and how well you can make a 3D model of a building, and this can be challenging when architecture school is a large investment of time and money for better chances of success. My two semesters in undergrad were nonetheless a great learning experience and I was able to take away valuable design lessons from it, but I ultimately know that the only way to become a licensed architect as the end goal is to go through the process of design school. I am very fortunate to be actively working in the industry and this video highlights all of the challenges that I have experienced when progressing through my career. This is probably why the saying goes "architects and engineers don't get along". If it was taught more in architecture school early on that design directly translates to the knowledge of how a structure is built, maybe we will not have as many conflicts with these two industries.

@Moochers 5 дней назад

It's pretty amazing that you were able to guide yourself so efficiently from such a young age. You were definitely at an advantage over most people! "As a working architectural draftsman, I am helping clients daily to design their projects while referencing local building codes, creating working construction drawings, and being able to design spaces that fit the client's needs." This is very powerful. This is what the foundation of architecture school should be! Knowing how to draft a building correctly greatly enhances your ability to design!

@jamesepicmamba 5 дней назад

It just seems misleading. I have my M.Arch and have been working a couple years already. Although i see the connection, the education and practice are completely different.

@Moochers 5 дней назад

Yup! It’s horrible…

@CTPAsports 4 дня назад

Ive been through architecture school. It’s not all design. Its 50% design and 50% theory, management, statics, materials&systems, digital tool tutorials, etc. The design is the most important part of a building (when we think about its entire life, and not just construction) so it makes sense that that is the focus. It takes years of dedication to hone your skills in design. If you want to learn how to be a project manager, take a project management specific course, if you want to be a draftsman go to drafting school. To be honest the rest of architecture comes to you if you understand design in a really real way. But maybe thats just my experience, one that started with passion.

@Moochers 4 дня назад

There are a lot of opinions that revolve around the way that school is set up. Some like it, some don't - it's all valid. In your case, school highly benefit your education, so you achieved the intended purpose which is great! To touch up on what you said, I disagree with some of your points. Although the design is extremely important, what you call the design is equally as important. I feel that schools tend to focus on aesthetic design which has very little value compared to the functional design of a project (i.e climate, systems, sustainability, assemblies, user experience, etc.) School has the student spend more time working on renderings, models, graphics, and presentations which all pertain to the aesthetics of the project instead of the functional design of the project. This wouldn't be a problem if most firms in the region required this process. There is just so much time wasted in school when helping students build the foundation for their career. You did hit the nail when you said that it takes years of dedication to hone your skills in design, but this is only really true if you have actual experience designing and experience the process of design from paper to the built environment, except most students graduate and spend years drafting and eventually managing projects. True designers that are required to generate a design from scratch are very rare.

@jsanchez796 6 дней назад

My experience is this: I spent 1.5years in undergrad doing what is essentially just drawing and learning how to draw, (which I learned from my dad growing up) the history of architecture and physics classes and learning how to use a glue stick. Into my 2nd year, we got into rendering and using materials to build mockups and models…but little to none on the actual technical construction behind building and drafting your plans and learning how to put CDs together, (depending how much effort your professor took the time to teach you). Because I already had a bachelor’s degree in in general studies I was able to jump into a fast 3yr graduate program without having to finish my undergrad program. The graduate program initially gave a crash course of what I already learned in my first 1.5 years, but immediately jumped into comprehensive classes that utilized concepts to hyperfocus on vertical construction details but still barely touched on putting together a CD set. While I was enrolled in an elective, …ELECTIVE…that was only focused on how to draft a CD set that involved framing, foundation, 1/2 plans, sections, elevation, and title blocks and sheet numbering/ordering! …once I took that class I completely understood how much of a waste my whole architecture school career had been a scam,…because I knew that this ELECTIVE class is was I need to know and what firms actually dealt with 90% of the time. And what solidified that realization was when I began to intern at a luxury home builder (Toll Brothers) in my last year in graduate school. I’ve eventually got a full time job there and entering my 4th year now and I’m so grateful because I’ve learned more from my boss/mentor than school ever did.

@Moochers 5 дней назад

Really relatable...spending years learning theory, history, and doing projects that feel disconnected from what you end up doing in a real architecture firm. It’s almost like architecture programs focus on everything except what you actually need to know. It’s great that you found a mentor that could guide on things like CDs, which are such a huge part of the job but somehow get ignored in school. It's insane how an elective course was more valuable than most of your core classes....

@vglqwp 6 дней назад

They teachs us about Disneyland then suprisingly we work at Battlefield lmao. Anyway, my hypothesis is, we all know Architect is a Noble job for Noble in the past, they have money and relationship to do it. In modern day, its more like for rich people being a Architect and normies will become worker - drafter, so normies learn and their money help school afloat in economic view, while who have enough condition will become architect themself, anyone try other thing (dont have enough condition and still trying do pure architecture) mostly endup in a poor sittuation.

@Moochers 5 дней назад

Spot on. The client is the designer in modern times. The architect is more like the curator of ideas in most cases.

@JustinSeara 6 дней назад

Guess what? It’s 2024 and you can render 3D models on a computer. Why are we using glue sticks again?

@Moochers 5 дней назад

It's crazy to me. They need to teach objective information such business, means and methods, and project documentation. Subjective ideas such as design and visual representation should be supplemental. This is architecture not graphic design/photography.

@vasihv9762 6 дней назад

Great video. I relate heavily to things you are saying because I am in my senior year about to get my bachelor of architecture but have been interning for 4 years. These kids don’t understand what is gonna happen to them. My main goal it to become licensed, should I still pursue grad school?

@Moochers 5 дней назад

Thank you! "These kids don’t understand what is going to happen to them. " It's true and VERY unfortunate.... If you want to get licensed and are in the US, head over to NCARB and see what the requirements are for your jurisdiction. It's usually a degree from an accredited school + Three-thousand-something hours of working experience. I would honestly do the bare minimum when it comes to school (i.e., get the bare minimum requirements that will get you a seat to take your tests). You should only be doing extra education at a university if 1) you love it 2) can afford it 3) want to learn more about architecture in that setting. At the end of the day only you can decide what is the right answer here though ... I won't judge for whatever you decide to do.

@_Breakdown 6 дней назад

Great video 😊👍🏼👍🏼 Q1: What architecture school did you go to? Q2: Couldn’t (doesn’t?) an engineer👷🏼‍♂️(9:38) fulfill the role of HOW a building is put together? Q3: Couldn’t a person with design talent (designer👨🏼‍🎨) team up with a person that has engineering expertise (engineer👷🏼‍♂️), and perhaps a person with construction👷🏻‍♀️🦺 experience (for the documentation)? 14:05 - - PHASES - - 13:46 ~ SD (Schematic Design) ~ DD (Design Development) ~ CD (Construction Documentation) 19:27 - - apprenticeship is more practical 19:33 - - everything in arch school you can learn in a book

@Moochers 5 дней назад

Q1: I ended up going to Florida International University which according to The Amber Book is the worst architecture school in the US if your goal is to get licensed. Here is a link to that www.michaelermann.com/architecture-school-rankings ... Now obviously, at the time, it didn't feel like a bad school... Q2: Architects work very closely with engineers (mechanical, electrical, plumbing, structural, and civil are the basic ones, other consultants are included depending on the project). Since the architect is responsible for documenting the whole entire project, they must be well versed in putting the building together so that less time is wasted on waiting around for the engineers to send you information so that you can continue documenting. Q3: Yes, this is how it works but again, most firms don't function this way. Most of the projects in the United States require true design... and when they do, it's usually the larger firms that Acquire those projects.

@myt7011 6 дней назад

I'm currently in my first year of architecture what skills and knowledge should I be looking into other than my studies

@Moochers 5 дней назад

Good luck with your studies! You need to look into what the career actually entails. What your tasks will be when you start working. Start looking at what firms you want to apply to. Make a list of local firms (big and smaller ones). Reach out to them and see if they have any internships that you could do in the summer or during breaks - even if just for a few hours a week or month for you to shadow them and ask questions. Start to interact with local firms (networking) so that when you are ready for a job, you're not starting from scratch. This will also give you a better idea as to what path you should take within the industry.

@AlvaroHFelix 3 дня назад

Architecture school its about the basics and principles, its about learning how to read all this many paths. The rest comes with experience (dedication and practice as well) there is no way anyone can understand Architecture as a whole if you don't experience all of these process. Model making teaches you about scale, free hand o technical drawing, to express the first ideas or a primary concept. It is not about the best software, AI or business as well. As an architect myself I understood there are many approaches to the practice, you get to choose what better suits you, that is why Arch School may seem outdated, but students still have to learn Architecture. Practice worldwide, it's different, it is not even for no one. I think this video critique has some frustration underneath, no offense. I get that nowadays you have to be practical and efficient but at the end tools are tools, they don't solve stuff, mind with problem solving does.

@Moochers День назад

That's a lot of time and money spent on just the "basics and principles".