im kind of on the boat of pay to play where if you go to woodward or whatever your gunna get that 2 foot 3 foot step right up until your 14 feet in the air doing 900s vibe. lol. its hard to learn anything going 100mph and thats where were at for most prebuild skateparks you see locally.
Looking at Japanese kids, everything is easier for them. 😂 Now seriously, another important factor is the size of the ramp. The first 900 was done on a "small" vert ramp not a mega. But again, I saw a Japanese kid doing a 540 on a very mellow miniramp.
Because children are lighter and shorter with a low center of gravity. Tony Hawk is giant for his sport at 6'2. Imagine kids trying to do a 900 with stilts
I had the same thought when I saw those back to back 9s! I wanna see if they can still hit them when they're fully grown. Only way we'll know for sure, as kids being able to bust out 900s is new territory. And even if it is easier, still full respect for the skills
I see it as Tony's legacy changing the game for new generations, kinda like Rodney did with flip tricks in the 80s. Absolutely love seeing these kids go nuts.
Competitive vert skater here (no proof on channel sry) I think you're spot on regarding a lot of things here, even more creds to mitchie for being 6'1 and still doing 900s on vert frequently, straight out of roll-in at the most recent x games too (nbd btw) For the part about hawks legacy you're absolutely right, it also needs to be mentioned that hawk's 9 isn't scalable at all and for all intents and purposes is genuinely very different from Ema's. Something I've noticed is that smaller people tend to flat spin a lot more, while larger people tend to go more of axis, mitchie who grew up with spins is an excelent example as he corks his 9's a lot more now compared to a couple years ago, he still flatspins quite a bit in mega though. Note: I'm 5'11'' learning 5's at the moment, it's extremely difficult for me. Most of the 5's done in my country were done by people when they were kids, I'll be one of like 3 to learn it as an adult.
From what i've been told before, the closer the body's center of gravity is to the floor more agile it tends to be, which explains why gimminast are so short and also why kids would spin easier. In the human body most common form, usually the center of gravity is around the belly button. But also, the fear thing has great impact too, not only for vert, but also rails, gaps and downhill.
Great video. It's also worth remembering/ realizing that the top vert skaters in the 90's were trying the trick unsuccessfully, such as Danny Way. At the end of one video, I forget which one, they purposely cut the clip so you weren't sure if he made the trick or not (in fact, he did not).
Thanks for covering this topic! It’s something I think about whenever new clips come out of young skaters doing these insane benchmark tricks. I like your takes on all of it.
Despite the obvious balance negatives of being a taller skater, there are a number of arguable advantages to being taller for skating. You can (should be able to) jump higher, you (should) have more power to work with, your longer arms make grabbing the board easier, you just have more LEG to work with which I think REALLY helps on tricks like tre-flips that really require a significant amount of power and finess to get that board to do what you want it to do in time.
I would say it's easier because they weigh less and are smaller overall, so they can probably spin tighter and faster than someone like Tony at 6 foot whatever. I don't think it takes away from what the trick is, just shows how once someone proves you can do something it becomes just another trick to learn.
You missed the actual most important variable that affects spinning and it's not height, it's the actual diameter of your body (from a top down or bottom up angle), more specifically when actually curled up during the spin motion, and not your arm lengths. THIS is what is SIGNIFICANTLY smaller in children versus adults, even if you normalize for height. The smaller the diameter the smaller distance you actually have to travel to complete each revolution, so it's not "easier" but they just have to physically travel less distance to perform the same spin amount. That and the injury factor of simply being a smaller lighter torso combined with the fact that youth itself has a number of built in "anti-injury" factors.
another great video. 😊 If you look at who is starting in the street at the Olympics this weekend, there are also 'older: skaters (nyjah), but especially for women you have to be under 20, preferably 13-15
Turning radius of a 4'11'', 70lb person is muuuch smaller than any average adult. A 40mm wheels will make more revolutions for every meter moved than a 50mm wheel
THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I STATED OF THE KIDS DOING THE 900!!! It's honestly not that impressive when you take weight into the determination. I'd love to see these kids do them when they're older weighing more than 50lbs LMAO 🤣🤣
GOOD, VALID GOD DAMN POINT! edit: Also as a youngster being a gymnast I could stand on my hands till I just fell unconscious. Since medication caused epilepsy and chronic fault balance I can not do that at all, just getting up 180 degrees fears me the fk out, but I can stand for some while, but... Yeah, I got decent at skateboarding, doing impossible etc, getting better. Lost all my friends. DO NOT accept Seroquel/Quetiapine from any doctor or whatsoever, as there have been more severe affection linked to this bullshit of a medication. Awareness, and not looking for sympathy.
Because children are lighter and shorter with a low center of gravity. Tony Hawk is a giant for his sport at 6'2. Imagine kids trying to do a 900 with stilts
When I seen lil homie do them back to back I immediately said this.. it’s so much easier to be smaller to do these spins than a grown man who’s 6 foot plus
It's kind of funny: I've heard gifted hater explain this exact same reasoning on why it is significant and different to be the first person to do a trick, yet he is also the kind of person who makes those kinds of comments about Tony when kids do the 900. I think hating tends to neglect logic lmao
