I am from Poland and since I am white i must be racist too, coz of my race. No matter the fact, that we were in much worse position than blacks even closer back in the past. First concentration camps, death camps and forced labour by Nazi Germany, and then gulags, forced labour by Soviet Union.
@@johnbrennan4759 Misgendering people is fucking rude, regardless of how much you disagree with them.. I'm not a huge fan of the things Munroe says but disregarding her personhood in that way is disrespectful. Shame on you.
She is mixed race. Half black so yes she has opputunity being half white and looking fair in complextion compared to someone like me who is full black and dark skinned. I think thats what she meant.
@@ridealongwithnicolle1581 the problem isn't that she is mixed, the problem is that she denies being racist herself. If you have to turn to other subcultures like "black britain" it's because you are racist and not because you are being supressed. A lot of people of different colours are not experiencing structural racism and are not living in subcultures amd only socializing with the same race like she does.
She talks about a poor experience at university and how she felt mistreated by peers. One thing that may be overlooked is that people tend to respond more to your personality traits, than they do your skin colour.
@@Dan_Backslide I have a hunch that she’s a vile person. I think she was being civil for the camera but If she was off camera and had leftist friends around her shed berate them for being straight white males. Which would just prove that she’s no different than the very people she deplores.
Definitely a narcissist and in love with being the martyr which aren’t particularly endearing personality traits. The entitlement and privilege it has whilst lacking all awareness is common nowadays amongst their crowd
Yeah they hired her. Would they hire a dark skin transwoman though? One who is not mixed race? I am not a transwoman but i can bet my life that people of my complexion does not get the same opputunities as someone of her complexion.
@@piecrumbs9951 no it's so easy to manipulate statistics of trans people because alot of people are not aware and they don't always deem them trans while reporting statistics they don't acknowledge them as trans to keep them rates down
I love how she can just attack white people, and say we are “the most oppressive and violent race”, then go “you people need to stop being defensive”. Just brain numbing
Munroe Bergdorf, and people like her, fan the flames of racism from all sides. She's said her no.1 goal would be to end prejudice, yet she's one of the most prejudiced people around. Oh the irony!
She wasn't asking if he was playing the race card, dummy. She was asking him to clarify if he was talking about the race card, which makes complete sense given the context of the discussion.
"If black kids are taught that white history is paramount, that's feeding into white supremacy." Until the latter half of the 20th century, Britain was almost entirely white. What does she want? Shall we lie and say that Richard the Lionheart was black to spare her feelings? British history is overwhelmingly white because for almost all of it's history, Britain was white. It's an unchangeable historical fact. It's not designed by anyone to be this way, it's just the way it is. It's like complaining the sky is blue or grass is green. A demented, anti-logic, spiteful position to hold. The intersectional left is always trying to foment division and resentment, irrespective of the facts. A disgrace and an agent of evil.
She gets a lot of her facts/arguments from the American left. Those arguments hold up in the US, but not the UK. She also neglected the facts about income disparity/systemic racism in the prison system in the UK which would have helped her make her point.
@Grace Mainwaring 10,000 slaves were not in the United Kingdom. The United Kingdom never had any legal form of slavery on the isle of Great Britain or Ireland. No slave would be in England was the standard of the time. Were there slaves in the colonies? Yes. On Britain? No. Slavery in Britain was long outlawed.
@@Alaois Just because something is illegal doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Slavery is still illegal in Great Britain to this day? Yes of course there are, with reports suggesting there are around 136,000 slaves in the UK today, from a range of ethnic backgrounds. I live very near the gypsy camp that held British slaves captive for over a decade, believe me they exist.
@@anthonyberry1314 If you honestly believe that there are 136,000 slaves in the United Kingdom right now there is something wrong with you. Number one the international community would've already jumped on Britain's case and I'm sure the Russians would try to revoke the UK'S Security Council seat. Stop speaking bollocks.
The victimhood mentality develops so a person doesn’t feel they have to take responsibility for their own failures and actions. Only a person of weak character would want to be in this constant toxic state of mind
That is true and I do agree but it sounds like you think racism is a myth. I can see you are an attractive white woman alot of black men prefer white women than black women I'm not sure what your type is or if you are even single but for the sake of my point I will just go ahead and say when you are the mother of a bi-racial child you may see that racism still exists. You may come across a mean nursery worker, an unfair teacher, misdiagnosis when you take your child to the doctors, you may witness your child not getting the job she or he worked so hard for and has to result to a different career, police brutality (Chris Kaba). These things can all be explained away... separately. But when there is a rain cloud following your child who happens to be a child of colour you may see things a little differently.
I was chatting to a black guy on the train the other day. He told me although born in England he hates Britain and just wants to exploit it to get enough money to go to Africa where his parents are from to live there.
@@Jenacide He told me he wants to live there. Buy a house, start a business and have enough cash to live, start a family as he wasn't going for a holiday. Just because he is black doesn't mean he is going to Shangri-la!!!
I strongly advise Munroe Bergdorf to live in south Africa for a year because she would soon find out as a brown woman not a black one what real racism is and I can near enough guarantee after that year is up she would be more than glad to be back in the UK
That is a terrible argument, all you are doing is just belittling her suffering by comparing it to somewhere worse, if that is your argument then why not say to a Jewish person to faces daily institutional racism to think about how much worse it was for Jewish people during WWII? It’s a flawed argument and is just justifying racism.
@@ashleyjuste6110I disagree and completely understand what the comment means. Its not belittling anyone's suffering. Just pointing out the very obvious hypocrisy and the delusions that they think they face daily in a very accepting and open society unlike other countries that wouldn't tolerate their crap.
When people don’t want to stop talking about black crime statistics it’s clear what their motivation is. When someone perpetually discusses and requests atonement for atrocities in white civilizations and no amount of it ever stops them from wanting more and more you know they have the same motivation.
She doesn’t want to talk about the violence against black people by black people. When she runs out of ideas she resorts to “I don’t feel happy that you are challenging my feelings and I’m not going to engage with you”
@@elenohr1369 the point is she wants only to blame white people for the problems that black people face around the world. Yet more black people are killed by their own race.
We need to help the white young men that are being left behind with all this narcissism coming from a very small minority. The only racist on that panel was her.
The most amazing thing about this video is why someone takes the time to debate the issue with someone who clearly doenst know the facts and only uses their own feelings to determine this.
To point out their stupidity on not having knowledge on the topic to have facts to back up their sayings. When you cant prove facts you are just lying to yourself to make you feel like you are right
This persons point always circles back to mental health and feelings. They think we should base our worldview on the volatility and subjective perception of these people over facts, statistics, and critical analysis 😂
@niall joeseph That’s your problem is you think everyone is out to get you because they’re expressing their bad experience from a certain group. Grow up. If you’re offended by what she says, you’re PROBABLY APART OF THE PROBLEM.
@niall joeseph That doesn’t change the experiences she had to deal with in the past and even NOW. From the color of her skin which a white woman in her position would not have to go through.
I think people today have lost site of what the word racist means. To label somebody a racist because they’re white and privileged is racist in itself. The one thing I do agree with is that more multicultural history needs to be taught 👍🏼
Thing is, british history was almost entirely made by white people. There where no black people in Britain. Unless one would try to argue that Anne Boleyn was black because he saw it on a show, it is really difficult to find a black guy in Brittain 600 years ago, so they obviously can't talk about anyone else than white people.
@@vornamenachname989 I mean we can't deny they had an impact on our history recently and are a part of our society today. That should be recognised. However you are absolutely right. Proportionally, most of Britain's history of being invaded, invading and beyond was mostly: Britonic then Celtic then Roman then Anglo Saxon/Jutish then Viking then French and then more mess. I give up about 1300 A.D.
@@wonderfulowolabi5578 yes… because the overwhelming majority of white people in todays society have not engaged in the slavery of black people, mockery of black people, stereotyping or injustice of black people or police brutality. I certainly have never done such things. When you claim that a group of people - in this case, white people - are racist… well, that actually makes you racist! History is history. And yes, it happens in todays society. But you cannot categorise a group of people, based on skin colour - and give them a derogatory name (racists) without actually placing yourself in the same category as those who are discriminative. You by and large are doing the exact same thing as people who say “black people are all criminals/blacks have a chip on their shoulder/ etc”. When you say “whites are racist” it is literally the exact same thing. I didn’t choose to be born white. But I sure as shit WILL NOT allow myself to be categorised as racist because of it. I have a multicultural upbringing and family - many different races in my family too. I speak for all races. No race is immune to racism. And I’m sorry but how does the world expect to move forward when we dwell on the crimes of our ancestors? WE ARE NOT THEM!
The moment she said you cant compare racism in other societies I knew HE was full of crap. This is me as an American talking. middle easterners ran the most brutal slave trade. yet were always blaming whites. Asians had the biggest and worst slave society in the world period. No other race can compare to Asians? im so sick of people like him. How is he a loreal model? The moment he said " im not about to tell you" thats their que to get booted off the show. These conversations are disingenuous.
If it’s so engrained in British Society why doesn’t Monroe leave? There’s plenty of other countries in the world. I strongly suspect it’s only the white western culture who are the most accepting to the transgender community. Mmmmm. Strange that.
@@connormc5809 it does make you wonder on what kind of upbringing Munroe had to develop such an overwhelming feeling of continual oppression and victimhood.
@@lennyg1233 Where did that silly assumption come from? This is not a generational issue, this a is racist and misandrist triple minority who has been brainwashed into thinking everything is about race. The issue is the internet exists, and millions can interact and brainwash each other into thinking how they think. If the internet was around 50years ago it would have the same result. You do know "free speech" does have its limits, at least in most places. So no one is seeking to limit it because it already has limits.
@@holdtightadele8017 Well I'm not suggesting in the least it's generational when I say yet you cause alot of the problems and seek to limit free speech I'm not talking generationally I'm talking about anyone with the victimhood mindset I'm actually inclined to agree I used to be like it and thought everything that way as well of course i started looking at things objectively and limiting free speech is a major issue because when you start you cannot stop because of subjectivity and the victimhood mindset that's the problem with limiting free speech because it doesn't really end when it starts to the point of now you disagree with someone of a different colour your labeled racist and it prevents open conversation on what's real racism or not because there's no clear line anymore because now if a black person for example charges at you with a knife and your a police officer and open fire your labeled racist like that unfortunate incident last week so when I talk about limiting free speech I should really saying limiting ideas
Where can I check in my white privilege? I've fallen on exceptionally hard times during Covid, I mean a fall from grace beyond my ability to handle it. So please where can I check this privilege in???? SOMEONE TELL ME????? I'll keep looking, but I doubt I'll find it
I don’t know if anyone will see this, but me, as an Irish person, has been taught of the many injustices of the British empire - in Ireland. The racism experienced by my ancestors by the British - towards white people. It doesn’t take much of a open mind to understand that the British empire wasn’t specifically racist to people of other skin colours. Most people in Ireland are white as snow and there is still a seriously oppressive history of slavery and discrimination here, between different groups of white people. The problem isn’t the English not being taught about the injustices of the empire against people of colour, it’s the English not being taught about the injustices of the empire all together. This expands much further than just race. The country is not built on racial abuse it’s built on abuse. The English were abusive towards other people regardless of race, the empire just happened to claim less powerful land outside of Europe - which generally consisted of people of colour, which is where this myth of colour specific slavery and discrimination comes from. Irish people were enslaved also, and discriminated to the point where pubs in England would have placards outside that stated “No Blacks, No Dogs, No Irish.” The Irish came below dogs. This is where Munroes argument falls apart, she is stubborn and very specific in her research, allowing her to be caught out in many areas.
Not just the Irish, which would be very recent. White people have been enslaved many times throughout history. By other whites, by Arabs, even by black and brown people. This 'unique black experience' isn't really unique at all. If we count oppression and enslavement by the Crown and royalty landlord's too, which we totally should, almost every white family was once a slave.
Indentured Servants amd so on too. If u couldnt pay someone off THEY OWNED YOU!!!! So hell yea!! There are so many instances of race not playing a role, its just perspective of entitled privilege and oppression. My boss is black, his boss is black, and HIS BOSS IS ASIAN… i dont want to hear people are holding race back becUse it is not true. And if it ever was there are so many MANY laws and regulations, programs, initiatives, and policies out there to reprimand those who actively pursue discrimination. Its a joke to say a huge problem is occuring with racism. If the pointed out specific areas then itd be easier to fix. But these people tout everything is racist and homophobic… really and type of -ism or phobia they can lash out at to get their agenda across
When we look into world history we realise that the story of civilisations is one of suppression, destruction and exploitation along with the building of culture and empires. And then we realise that our freedom is very new. Most people were legally unfree. Bonded serfs etc. Universal citizen rights for males (personal freedom, right to vote and own property) only date back to around 1870 in central Europe. For women a little later, comparatively.
I wonder what she thinks of the history of many African nations that offered slaves to European colonists inn exchange for firearms, gunpowder and many other things.
BigKuriboh EVERY single civilization in recorded human history built its success on slavery throughout the centuries. That's simply history. So many professions within the UK in inner city areas now are completely dominated by first or second/third immigrant groups such as Nursing, mental health and care. I always posit the same question. You're the owner of a company (hypothetical) you get two candidates from a job, one white polish, one from African descent. The employer rejects both. He says 'Africans are naturally lazy, uneducated and don't have a will to work.' He rejects the Polish candidate on the basis that 'Eastern Europeans are dead inside, they are naturally inferior, they have no personality, they are limited in their ability to progress.' So both get rejected. Anyone who woud DARE say rejection number 1 is racist, and the rejection of Number 2 is just 'personal prejudice, and NOT racism.' There is NOTHING more divisive than a hierachy of victimhood.
Africans were enslaving each other long before the white man showed up... white people didn't start slavery but white people were some of the first people to fight to abolish slave trade practices!!
It would destroy her bubble that the tribe leader sold their most weak bastards to merchants for a pack of cigarettes because he would have no use of them or that people who would let catch them on their own land are now the ancestors of the “great” black American culture. The same weak blood that was sold or caught is being pumped by the hearths of these people. This is the biggest red pill everyone is too proud to take. For me I was lucky being taught the true history. When black peoples brag about being so proud of them I want to laugh. Not because they are black. All humans are the same there should be no slaves. But because they are proud of being the children of the ones who were sold for less than pack of cigarettes by their own people or for being children of the ones who let some foreigners caught them on their own land. It’s just sick how history is being lied to us because the truth is hurting snowflake emotions. Anyone who calls me racist for this is brainwashed.
She was outwitted in 10:29 andshe started going on a tangent... "I think I am sat on a couch to try AND JUSTIFY MY FEELINGS TOWARDS RACISM" holdup!!! What does that even mean?
I could watch this over and over. Love watching the insufferable, ignorant Munroe get completely owned. And, Munroe, that hair weave doesn’t fool anyone. We know you’re biology.
I was thinking the same.. exact.. thing. Probably chose the first name too. “Ooh, I’ll use Marilyn Monroes LAST name as my first name. Yes! That’s it! I’ll just change the spelling, because I’m quirky, special, and unique! That’s the ticket!”
Anyone who says "you've never experienced racism" in the first few minutes of an interview is a racist. You don't have to be in the majority to be racist. It just means you have negative views on a group of people based on heritage or visual attributes.
@@gevorgvanarmenie9788 racism doesn't have to be directly against you for it to be considered experiencing it. If you ever see/hear someone being discriminated then you've witnessed/experienced racism. Just not directly at you, but I'm open to debate. Have a great day
I don't have anything against her but I refuse to be titled as part of the "most violent race" and "born racist". This would also be implying that there are different races in the human race, which most people would deny.
vilan sun it’s not though. They literally have job openings, workshops, and scholarships for only minorities. If that’s what you call ‘oppression’ then you need to re-evaluate your decision.
I agree, I'm brown. She doesn't represent my views. There were many good white people, some who opposed slavery and helped to free slaves. The issue is institutional racism. White privilege exists and they should hopefully attempt to be more anti-racist rather than just 'not racist'. The problem of racism exists for all races though
@@anonymousanonymous2319 it would appear Chinese privilege is the pressing issue relating to third level education. This narrative of of western societies being frame-worked to benefit white people rarely stands up to any reasonable statistical analysis so we are left with puzzling anecdotes like "my lived experience" as evidence of this racial conspiracy.
@@anonymousanonymous2319 Indian households earn the largest income in Britain yet Bangladeshi households earn the least. White households are smack bang in the middle. Working class white children are performing the worst in schools yet first generation West African children are performing the best. There is no white privilege in any meaningful metric.
I find Munroe to be totally insufferable, she is a bad spokesperson for both the trans and black community. She is constantly dividing people with the vocabulary she uses so much so she is doing the exact opposite of what she’s set out to do
As a Black person, I have taken it upon myself to research history. I understand that further back in time you go, the harder it was to keep a quality of life, and the human desire to live in the best conditions. I do not blame or feel damaged or find myself disadvantaged of the actions that those people chose to live. Their life, their conditions, their values. Do I agree...hell no, but it was before my time and I'd rather not let the values of some screwy dead people dictate my success. Not only that, people killing and enslaving others is something that has been a testament to civilization and culture. Take the crusades, that the fall of the romans, the rule of the Pharoah, the fighting amongst native clans...it goes on and on. What am I to judge my neighbors simple cause of what they looks like. Is that not in essence the same as dehumanizing some for my own benefit or belief. Animals are more human in that case and we as "humans" would need to re define our sense of life and meaning. Just saying its best to recognize what happen and move forward not with trying to keep it in our back pocket and instead find productive ways to be equal while respectful. I mean just think: All people should be seen as equal. Yet we judge and lower their value based on thier decisions like thier sex or preferences. We say its wrong to take a life, yet it applies primarily to others humans or household pets. Yet if an animal of any sort, be it a dog, a gorilla, or a crocodile hurts or kills a person we immediately seek euthanasia. Why? Just my opinion
Unfortunately your views don't align with the agenda of the people who keep hate and intolerance alive through more racism under the guise of being "woke". Your research means nothing to them as it harms their fragile belief system and they will disavow you for it.
@@epickrimson72 Its the saddest aspect really. To deny the truth of those who are the living in guise of judgment and justice for the dead for thier own benefit. Truly many great people have sacrificed far to much for us to end up here. Far to many....so sad, indeed so sad...
Most everything she complained about isn’t the problems caused by white culture is in fact caused by her own culture.
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“This society[uk] is deeply racist, racism is deep in its core” “There is no use to compare racism between countries, racism is just racism everywhere” Also proceeds to say America is different.. starts comparing… He is not a clown. He also forgets that a lot of white students also don’t get enough attention. Barely anyone goes through education without kinks in the road. No matter your color.
Slagged us off and then claimed she belonged here. Ran up against a few people who did not agree without challenge and made her look stupid. Resorted to feelings and lived experience - or neurosis and inferiority complex - as a defence. BLM's imagined persecution in its entirety.
I would love to be a fly on the wall in the room with Andrew, Michael and Ed after this show 😅 This Munroe should have really thought this through just a little longer before taking a seat on that couch
Don’t you just love how blacks just keep on crying about their history and playing the race card day in day out, while asians and browns just let their hard work and determination speak for themselves.
It’s the easy way out and a career for people like this sad excuse of a human being this fake needs to go to the rape capital and experience another type of culture
Munroe's video literally made me dizzy. Like I had too much to drink and the room started spinning. And that's apart from the message. Obviously videography wasn't a class he took at university.
To be fair tea bags are black covered in white maybe they should bring out bleached tea covered in black bags ? Or for Munro black tea covered in black tea bags ….. but even then she wouldn’t be happy .
“My lived experience”. It’s what she keeps saying when challenged, and then proceeds to make claims about what other people think and feel (they’re all racist of course) and she refuses to accept shades of grey, or the specific points put to her. She ignores any evidence or argument that doesn’t fit with her world view. She is unable to see things objectively. Nothing will change her mind. No argument and no evidence.
It's because the theory of racism she's been taught is that privileged people are ... lacking in empathy, somehow? ... and simply aren't able to appreciate the struggle of others. Anybody who's _not_ privileged is able to discern the thoughts and motivations of others and speak for them. It's massive, massive special pleading in order to allow activists like this to try and argue _both_ sides of the argument.
Adam Smith I can understand that someone who has gender issues and has been subjected to abuse will be sensitive. She feels persecuted. But the problem is applying those emotions and experiences on to the wider picture “the UK is racist” or “all white people are racist.” These are not issues that relate to her lived experience but to objective facts and evidence. When she is confronted with those she has no answer and regresses back into her world of persecution.
@@kataminkaitin2844 The problem is her lived experience (or just “experience” as it could be called) probably does involve racism and intolerance and I can understand why, in some people, this could lead to having a real sensitivity about it. However, her flaw is to use this anecdotal experience to argue that therefore the country is racist and all white people are racist. It’s a big leap, one she cannot support with evidence, and when she is challenged with counter evidence she plays the racist / white male card which is cheap and intellectually dishonest.
@@MarlboroughBlenheim1 I'll correct that "she believes her lived experience is racism". Most likely, as demonstrated perfectly in this video, we have a profoundly stupid person who has gone through life attempting to blame her short comings on forces beyond her control. She's been trained to believe it was racism. İt was her. The individual.
This is one if the things that taking away personal responsibility creates. She has such an attitude when things aren't going her way, I'm inclined to believe that she made life harder than it had to be for herself due to her racist views and victim status. There's a High probability that her parents also held those views which she embraced growing up therfore making things harder for herself because things weren't just handed to her and she had to actually work. People are more willing to help someone who's gracious about it instead of someone who feels entitled to something due to the color of their skin. It's creating a self-fulfilling prophecy loop that they can't get out of. Hope this made sense. Wanted to get my thoughts out before I lost em lol
@@alexevans3520 Thanks for posting this comment. People on the internet are to quick to judge on a person "destroying" another person in an argument when it's a simple viewpoint challenge.
@@bambostarla6259 actually andrew Neil did pretty much destroy the guy with braids and without much effort too... the dude lying and race baiting kept changing the goal posts coz he was getting debunked... the man with braids kept changing things to try to avoid the inevitable and all he did was make himself look stupid and ignorant and racist
It’s no secret that England (like a lot of many other countries) was racist in the past because of colonialism. But most of Western Europe doesn’t have that problem anymore. It’s also VERY IMPORTANT to remember that white people were enslaved too. I’m not racist, so I refuse to be blamed for racism. If anyone is racist, it’s her.
It's interesting that Munroe started to talk about race and racial issues as an inroad to allow them to start talking about transgenderism, which is what they were really here for
@Rachel Andrewes it's the karen/snowflake mindset of "this is how I feel, so everyone else must feel this way". It's an inability to actually put yourself in someone else's shoes. Their followers are empty shells who want to be told what they believe or people with the same mindset.
Y'know, at the beginning I was humoring her, cause some of what she says is loosely based in statistical fact, but when she said racism is inherited, not learned, I lost every bit of what little respect I had left for her.
Did the black man with the blond braids say that "he" was talking about "mental health?" I think I stepped through a worm hole and ended up in... "the twilight zone."
@@theotherwise3102 you and the dude with dreads in the video are talking absolute nonsense that is based almost purely on your own emotions of your "lived experience", and not on anything based in objective reality.
As a mixed race trans person who by chance is married to a black person I have to say that I have experienced more racism from black people than white so stop trying to make yourself look like a victim with phrases such as "white privilege" until you have lived all over the world honey because let me tell you something I have been more welcome by white people than any other race as far as my sexuality and as far as my race. Please let it go and find another argument as to why people don't want to work with you it's your attitude honey it's not the color of your skin that people don't like
As a white working class kid who left school at fifteen, I was actively discouraged by my middle class teachers and employers from going to university. This was middle class prejudice. It did not make me into a victim, it made me more determined to prove these morons wrong. Prejudice is an ever present reality, it takes many insidious forms, it undoubtedly shapes our lives but how is up to us.
I agree about ur point on prejudice and well done of going to uni etc however do u not agree that this was how the class system worked and actually kept country running and by that i mean just look at the standards and shortage of skilled manpower we have in the construction industry. Oh amd i am a white working class labourer. Before anyone says i am speaking from privilege.
@@scottmeehan2422it's been a huge disservice to kids these days. I'd like to wager that the reason a lot of those skilled labor blue collar jobs are woefully understaffed is that white men (who overwhelmingly full those positions) have been told their entire life that they are evil and the problem so they've said fuck it and given up to go play videogames and be as non productive as possible. Kind of funny how much we needed those white guys huh?
I'm 54 I can remember being taught about the British Empire, the slave trade, etc. It may have been the teacher that taught us, had an open discussion about our role in history. Why in these discussions do we not mention all the other nations that had Slavery as part of their economic solution in the past? why do we not mention the countries that use slavery today? if we are going to teach the good and bad about British history, we have to teach it as a reference to the time in which it took place. I believe it's not racism today but inequality, I can't define what a person of colour sees as racism as I'm white, but I can definitely identify with inequality having lived through the '70s and '80s in a village in South Wales.
So right, why do black people think they are the only ones who were taken as slaves the whole world was built on slavery, the 2022 world cup was built on slave labour but are we all going to watch it of course all the hypocrites like Linaker and Jim White will be there.
The problem is you see it through white eyes that have been told it was okay. Once you keep seeing history through white eyes that tells you everything worked out for the best you forget the damage you've caused other races. To say now your freedom after being raped being abused being used as nothing more than pools. Get a woman that has been raped and let her now go to work with a bunch of men that look like the man that raped her. Does she do well at her job? Kanchi function or does she need to tell herself to everything around her. And I'm not talking about rape as in I said no and they have continuing. I mean brutally raped. The issues that woman has she passes on to her children. Would you passes it on to the next group and to the next group until they have to fix it themselves. Your schools don't tell you that the time like doesn't tell you that. This was happening all around the world to this group of people for Generations swear they didn't even know who or what or where they came from. So when you free them and think that they are going to be just like everybody else. You are actually lying to yourselves and world. When people have friends that are shot beside them. Those people need therapy. What happens when generations of one group of people are consistently rate killed abused used and then go on educated. Then they're told their free and they can mingle with Society. A society of people that look like they hate them and treated them that way. It was not an easy transition to see someone you owned actually going out and acting as if they are human when you dehumanize them the whole time. They weren't treated with respect. Now you're saying your history which has been taught through white eyes and white thoughts is somehow going to teach you that it what's wrong what they did and how they did it. No this is where white supremacy comes in. It was for the betterment of Britain or the United States or whatever country you're talking about. That was the way back then was it not? The problem is the ignorance that people want to carry when they try to say things are better now. Once one group holds all the power and has resentment to another group that group was no power it's always on the heel of the group with power. The same goes for people throw a white person people that are black. One feels they are entitled the other one feels they have to fight for everything. This is stuff that psychology books beg for. Yet no one ever touches this because it is too deep atopic and too revealing of people in power.
@@stevemartin7798 you obviously do not know what black slavery was. And why it still is a problem till this day. Never actually thought about what it meant for someone to have gone through that. Much less the whole Community has gone through that. Then to think about they had to now fix themselves without understanding who they work because they were there for so long. It is easy to fix yourself once you know who you were but when your history is erased and lied about it is even harder to find out who you are or should that be. And then to being a society where there is systemic racism or just hatred towards you period not to mention a community that is broken with all those broken pieces come together as one and told to act normal. There is a lot of problems in their Community because of the way things are done and are still being done period not to mention wealth and power and how they treat people
@@jasonking3651 i'm sorry i cant see what your point is, I accept that our past history is not all glory, I agree that by todays standards our history is horrendous. but I can guarentee that the times we are living through right now will have an impact on the future. everybody names Britain and America has the major benefactors of slavery, why are they always singled out? what about the Belgians, Spain, Portugal, France etc. What about the nations that are involved in slavery today mainly middle eastern nations? You talk about trauma as if its colour related? i dont understand that! you say that the trauma suffered by ancestors have an impact on todays relatives, well i dont feel the trauma of my grandad who served in the second world war. As a former serviceman i can relate to it, but i cant feel it nor be able to understand how it affected him. if you are suggesting that all white people are guilty of suppressing other people who dont look like them, then Isuggest you look at history with out colour. look at the height of the Muslim empire, believe it or not they raided the south coast of England and Ireland and kidnapped them for slavery. All I believe is that if we keep looking backwards we will always have a problem moving forward. lets not forget a major elemant of todays so called suppression of ethnic minorities, remember where govts. put them to live!! look around they are not living in Knightsbridge they live in predominately white underdeveloped and deprived areas alongside white underprivileged families.
@@taffshep1 after reading what you said. I understand why you have a problem understanding. You don't want to see that one group did not do or have not anything wrong. The problem we did a lot of things wrong in history. We rate the land as well as the people on it. One of the reasons why we kept sending people than ships was because the gold and the resources on the continent were being used up just to be claimed as wealth. So well also became a thing for owning people as slaves. When you keep taking from the land and you take the people on the land as well that in itself is an abuse. Now our standard is the wealthier you are the more powerful you are. It was the same back then. When it comes to trauma I'm sorry to hear about your grandfather and what they went through. I am thankful for what he did. But trauma to a family or a small group of people for one generation or 5 years, is completely different from generations of being broken so that you can serve. Remember these were strong Warriors that were engineers and all the other things that were broken by the whip and mental games or what will be known as mental Warfare. These men and women were stripped of their religion their culture and their identity. And then they were constantly Sean they had little-to-no value. They watched as family members and friends were thrown off ships to prove that point. Their children were born into slavery whipped raped sold putting fields to work to death literally all in the name of making sure people of A different race were able to say they were rich and had enough money to take care of themselves. There is a trauma that happens to you when you are treated that way for Generations. You are comparing five years to over five generations of that. If you think about a generation a lifetime could be 68 years for each generation. If you had children they were taken away from you and sold. Reason why they were sold was because the attachment of a father fighting for his child or Mother fighting for their child was too risky. So they were always sold. Until they were completely broken. So now we're talkin about Generations into slavery. When you have a group of people that are constantly being shown that they are worth nothing and they have children and they have children and they have children and each generation is being shown they are worth nothing. We kill them if they show and signs of intelligence to prove that they are as just a little smarter than animals. Then we free these people once we morally wake up. We force them to live in the poorest conditions that still insist that they have little to no value. We portrayed them a foolish savages that know no better so that they are view by most as a threat. When they show intelligence and build up into more than we thought and more than us we burned down their prosperous cities or businesses. (This still happens in business dealings). Giving them more reasons to not work hard yet they still do. We highlight the same problems in their communities that we have. We just imply it is worse in their communities than ours. We now know that type of trauma needs therapy. Then we let them have none while still trying to Imply that they have very little value. The African countries are still paying billions to a lot of the European countries for Europeans losing their properties. So you see it is the money for the rich. In the United states it is the money made in many ways like the privatized prisons.
I don’t get why she is saying there is no progression when in UK schools we have black history month and are educated on matters such as slavery and the British empire.
Me Mo well, I’m English and live in Australia. It’s no different. You either like people or you don’t. Here, indigenous tend to stick together. My husbands family are half indigenous. The only problem they have is being heard. They want to be part of things, and it’s getting better. But, there’s no killing because someone is indigenous. No hatred that I’ve ever seen my husbands family experience. You get idiots who just hate everyone....but, this munroe is absolutely ignorant.
@@pommiebears unfortunately racsim is a huge issue in Australia especially in the justice system. Also, a 15 yr old Indigenous boy was bashed and killed by a group of white Australians last week because the young boy was Aboriginal. It's absolutely horrible. Just because your husband hasn't experienced racsim (thank God) it doesn't mean that it doesn't exist. Go march with the Indigenous peoples on Survival Day and see non-Indigenous peoples (white men mainly) hurl racism abuse at the Indigenous peoples marching. It's messed up. P.S. I'm speaking from experience.
As a white person that went to a majority black school, I can tell you that racism is alive and well. But it wasn’t the white kids being racist, it was the black kids being racist towards everyone else.
So basically she doesn't like statistics but then brings up anecdotes about her own personal bad experience and broad applies that towards every black person's mental health/experiences in Britain. lmao.. holy shit.. She acts like you cant get statistics regarding mental health or peoples personal experiences regarding race during their time in school and shit.. she really just came to the interview with 0 facts and 100% emotion and anecdotes.
The 10:33 mark is absolute gold. After being absolutely hammered with facts her argument just fizzles out. It’s a glorious, glorious moment. Well played Andrew Marr
It seems the one person on the couch whose views seem racist is the person who claims they are against racism!!! I cannot get my head around this constant claim that more diverse and ethnic groups should be holding posts higher in society just for the sake of equality,. It should quite simply be the best person for the job regardless of colour, creed, age, gender whatever. Would it therefore be considered racist for instance if less white men would be hired in a variety of jobs in the future just in the name of equality>?
It is already happening. We have companies hiring candidates just in the name of gender diversity and not on qualification. Deserving candidates are loosing out on jobs because the company wants to look good and supportive of gender equality.
But her mum is white 😳🙄. And she’s not black she’s mixed race! It’s a shame that people see a mixed race person with a white mum and a black dad and that child is still classed as black. People are not educated enough to know the difference when it comes to skin colour
