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Some creationists (such as Kent Hovind) claim that evolution, and atheism, are religions. In this excerpt, Kent Hovind (Christian) and Bernie Dehler (atheist) discuss it.
Click here to see the full discussion:
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-eEm8C-EpxRA.html .
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Here's the description from the full video:
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On Mon. 6-6-2016, Bernie Dehler had an videotaped discussion with Kent Hovind for a TV show in Beaverton Oregon called "Questions for Christians." The program has these segments:
1. Is atheism/evolution a religion? (7:02)
2. Is the gospel nonsense? (19:22)
3. Does a supernatural soul exist? (27:08)
4. Is Genesis literally true? (39:42)
5. Are Catholics REAL Christians? (50:30)
More info on the presenters:
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Bernie is the author of "Modern Science and Philosophy Destroy Christian Theology," which can be found here:
tinyurl.com/lmlqy56 . You can also find him on Twitter here: BernieDehler and on Facebook here: Bernie-Dehler-467276896621775 .
You can see some of the local Portland events where Bernie participates, here (Center for Philosophical Naturalism):
www.meetup.com/Philosophical-Naturalists .
Kent Hovind (Dr. Dino) is a creation science evangelist. He has a brand new book available:
"What On Earth Is About To Happen… For Heaven’s Sake" (details can be found here: tinyurl.com/zzktsh3 ).
Kent Hovind's RU-vid channel is here:
tinyurl.com/o46emrg .
This video is a softer version of a Kent Hovind debate. More interaction, less sermonizing.

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Комментарии : 91   
@MultiAllu123
@MultiAllu123 5 лет назад
Bernie is a nice host.
@parsivalshorse
@parsivalshorse 7 лет назад
Amazingly Hovinds definition of religion as 'how we got here', can not be found in any dictionary.
@keonihillier981
@keonihillier981 7 лет назад
parsivalshorse the dictionary copy and pasted: a pursuit or interest to which someone ascribes supreme importance. it's in there
@parsivalshorse
@parsivalshorse 7 лет назад
Keoni Hillier​​ Sure. What is your point? That's not what Craig said. I'm not sure how defining religion as something of supreme importance would relate to atheism anyway - you are not a Hindu, so is your not being a Hindu a Religion?
@eddyeldridge7427
@eddyeldridge7427 6 лет назад
If you want to use the colloquial definition the dictionary offers. Here's the proper definition, from the dictionary: the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods.
@grantcoetzer8676
@grantcoetzer8676 6 лет назад
According to you Running and Fishing are religions also?
@johnphelan7403
@johnphelan7403 6 лет назад
I suspect the description you copy & pasted relates not to a primary definition but to a way the term might be used colloquially.Some people might be said to treat a particular sport like a religion - but few would seriously attempt to define football literally as 'a religion.'
@georgemessenger7567
@georgemessenger7567 5 лет назад
it's still code
@BryanRitchie-Gonebush
@BryanRitchie-Gonebush 7 лет назад
Hi Bernie. Even though I'm a Christian I nevertheless appreciate your balanced approach to debating the issue of creationism versus evolutionary theory. Both sides of the discussion normally tend not to listen to each other and are very dogmatic about why they are right (despite the facts). This is not the case with your debates and it has really got me thinking. None of us should be afraid of truth, scientific or otherwise. I find people like Richard Dawkins to be just as evangelical as many dogmatic Christians and to tend switch off when listening to him/them. This is not the case with your debates.
@aaronwilliams673
@aaronwilliams673 5 лет назад
7:33 Stumped
@BtheOutLIer
@BtheOutLIer 4 года назад
It’s foolish that’s why the host couldn’t say anything. How do we know how computer code gets created? It’s obviously created by humans. Can 2 computer programs sexually reproduce? Is it a possibility for 2 computer programs to reproduce? How is DNA spread from parent to offspring? Can you point to a single person created by a God? If not, how can you say that God designed human DNA if it’s never been observed or not even a possibility. Also different organisms have different designs, does that mean that they had a different designer?
@gratefulapostate3123
@gratefulapostate3123 8 лет назад
Kent says that the definition of religion is a belief system that explain the origin of the universe. So the statement "I don't know." is a belief system?
@Pray-4-Me
@Pray-4-Me 5 лет назад
Weekend at bernies 3...
@runits
@runits 8 лет назад
sci·ence ˈsīəns/Submit noun the intellectual and practical activity encompassing the systematic study of the structure and behavior of the physical and natural world through observation and experiment.
@StormBringer1966
@StormBringer1966 8 лет назад
This guy on the phone confuses evolution with abiogenesis. What is the god of evolution and atheism if they are, in fact, a religion? Also, when we talk of evolution we mean organic evolution. Not chemical or cosmic evolution. Evolution is a word that fits in certain processes as an alegory, but 'theory of evolution' is aimed to academic Biology.
@joshpotts6316
@joshpotts6316 7 лет назад
You fail to understand why he defines it as a religion.
@thetannernation
@thetannernation 5 лет назад
StormBringer1966 His point is not that there is a god of evolution. His point is that you can’t empirically prove it. So it’s faith based. It is not factual.
@TC_83
@TC_83 5 лет назад
I’d like to thank God for making me an atheist
@ikawpipa
@ikawpipa 7 лет назад
the atheist guy believes that fish became humans, and he has no idea that it is a fairytale
@jfalconredskins
@jfalconredskins 6 лет назад
Maybe if you did some actual research you would understand it too and wouldn't be repeating the typical creationist propaganda.
@ninclow5421
@ninclow5421 5 лет назад
No he don't. I suggest that you go and open a book, my friend.
@sabrewolf9567
@sabrewolf9567 4 года назад
Sorry hovind Webster’s defines science-knowledge obtained through study or practice. The word observe is completely absent from the definition of science hovind, come on man you can’t even look up the definition that just shows your say whatever you want.
@umershoeb82
@umershoeb82 6 лет назад
Kent is best
@billludlow3317
@billludlow3317 6 лет назад
Google my debate with him, lol.
@sabrewolf9567
@sabrewolf9567 4 года назад
Ya hovind you should take your idea to court and see how many judges with actual educations believe evolution is a religion, I’ll give you a hint they have enough education to understand its science.
@ufutz
@ufutz 6 лет назад
Can you be 2 religions at the same time? A Jewish Muslim, an Atheist Hindu etc? I would say no. Therefore if you don't believe in Islam, which Kent doesn't, then he is an atheist (with respect to Islam). Since he calls himself a Christian, he must therefore be a Christian Atheist... Unless atheism ISN"T a religion. In which case he is just a Christian. Atheism isn't a religion, it's just a response of "I don't believe you", when religious people make claims.
@austinlupo7099
@austinlupo7099 6 лет назад
I feel bad for all of the kids who had to sit through hovinds biology class
@danduryea
@danduryea 8 лет назад
How perfectly disingenuous of hovind to blatt out that crap about six "kinds" of evolution. The question has to do with the Theory of Evolution; that is the definition with which we must start.
@sandybeach368
@sandybeach368 5 лет назад
you just contradicted yourself.
@CNCmachiningisfun
@CNCmachiningisfun 7 лет назад
In all these years, Kent has consistently failed to actually prove that his particular manmade god is real.
@s197gt6
@s197gt6 5 лет назад
I dont know about u guys but I'm for sure that I didnt come from a fish lol.
@sabrewolf9567
@sabrewolf9567 4 года назад
Webster’s definition of. Evolve- develop gradually over time. So are your children 100% exactly the same as you if not, even one gene different mean they are evolving which is evolution.
@vladtepes176
@vladtepes176 5 лет назад
bernie, sorry to say but U R very dedicate it to computer's and against all odd's U literally dont have enough skills to build one from A to Z , so U need a lot of information about the "TRUTH"
@koyotecow7102
@koyotecow7102 8 лет назад
this atheist needs to research storing data in DNA. fundamentally the computer system is modeled after biological systems. The internet, intranet, and AI is modeled after neurological brain system with tags and redundant storage.
@SecHummer
@SecHummer 8 лет назад
RE: "The internet, intranet, and AI is modeled after neurological brain system" Then you know nothing about computer science. Digital computers work with 1's and 0's ... the brain (neurons) works totally different.
@koyotecow7102
@koyotecow7102 8 лет назад
+SecHummer I work for one of the biggest tech companies in the industry and I got a masters in computer science. Shutup troll
@koyotecow7102
@koyotecow7102 8 лет назад
Electrical pulses going through those neurons. Ones and zeros are electrical pulses you idiots. The brain sends electrical signals and so does the computer.
@peterh7575
@peterh7575 7 лет назад
as a comp.sci and being in the IT field, i agree with the other guy, making that connection between brain and computer is heavily foolish.
@danduryea
@danduryea 8 лет назад
Not one reference to "how the world got here"; hovind lies again! Simple Definition of religion : the belief in a god or in a group of gods : an organized system of beliefs, ceremonies, and rules used to worship a god or a group of gods : an interest, a belief, or an activity that is very important to a person or group Full Definition of religion 1 a : the state of a religious b (1) : the service and worship of God or the supernatural (2) : commitment or devotion to religious faith or observance2 : a personal set or institutionalized system of religious attitudes, beliefs, and practices3 archaic : scrupulous conformity : conscientiousness4 : a cause, principle, or system of beliefs held to with ardor and faith Source: Merriam-Webster's Learner's Dictionary
@randall21ism
@randall21ism 7 лет назад
Douglas Davis lol the third definition described atheists and evolution very accurately. how can you look past that?
@mac2brown
@mac2brown 6 лет назад
Kent is brilliant
@jfalconredskins
@jfalconredskins 6 лет назад
If by brilliant you mean purposely ignorant and a liar, then yes he is brilliant.
@Raw-guitar
@Raw-guitar 6 лет назад
Atheist need not apply in heaven...its your choice...