Are Bike Spokes The Most Important Factor To Your Riding?! 

Shout out to the squad 🫡

Hi there Phu. Double butted spokes were not designed around being a lighter spoke, the butting serves a purpose. Plain gauge spokes are very rigid and push all their force under use to either the hub or nipple/rim end, which can crack your hub flange or sheer off at the nipple end, the idea behind double butted spokes is they are thinner in the middle and more able to flex and soak up the forces that may cause more expensive damage elsewhere.👍

I think that the entire bike is important, but most important is this channel with the awesome content. 🤘

I’m over 200lbs and I’ve never had any problems with butted spokes. Dirt. Street. Park. Well worth the extra cost.

From a physics standpoint tension is greatest at the ends of whatever things tension is being put on (rope, cable, rod). If the tensioned thing is vertical the tension will be greater at the highest point, if it is horizontal it will be equally great at both ends. Either way the point of least tension is in the middle. You see this same effect in tow ropes and other things that snap under high tension. It happens a the ends, not in the middle (unless there was some sort of defect or damage elsewhere in the length). Also, on Ti snapping. As a general rule of thumb, the harder something is, the more brittle it is. Hard/strong brittle things snap, softer/weaker things bend and flex. Most people have probably bent a piece of metal back and forth until it snaps off. This is called fatiguing, the softer the metal the easier it is to bend, but the more times you have to bend it to fatigue it enough to break off. Moral to the story is that if you are putting a material in an environment where it needs to flex and be super strong such as a bike rim, you want something that is a happy medium in the hardness scale you select. Stainless steel is an alloy, and the mix can change the hardness. There are ways to determine what the optimal hardness level is for a given application at a set tension, and it appears that Odyssey has gone through that effort ...

Personally, Titanium Spoke are very good, the bike feels very soft, I have never broken one, I have been using them for 3 years, it all depends on your riding style.

The biggest advancement in spoked wheels is the cross-lacing design on G Sport rims and BSD Nasa rims. It's equivalent to increasing your hub flange width by 1 CM or half inch. Super strong design.

Great information! Love this…

You guys just saved me a ton of money 💰 😅! I was going to build a set with Ti for the first time. I have run Sapim double butted and had no issue and DT Swiss . But that’s more common for 14” up I’m running a 26” street Mtb

Lacing a wheel with spokes is only as good as the installer. There's a whole technique to lacing, and without this learned attribute, the wheel has a high chance for catastrophic failure... That's where a quality shop comes into play to get it done right the first time . Thanks for the upload learned alot

This video hits home first day riding after maybe a year I broke my spoke, old spoke a bit rusty had wheel relaced with stainless spkes

After building wheels for 40+ years all of my and customers wheels are built with DTs unless someone brings spokes to me and insist I build with them. For 20-24 inch wheels DT 14g is the standard. Rolled threads are best.

Wow thanks for the video, It helps me a lot 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

Yo fella$ hot topic! I’m shopping for spokes recently and discovered the spoke calculator. Had no clue some rims take different size spokes, and depending how big is the flange on the hub would vary the size of that side spoke. Great show Phu and Al.

Would love to hear more about rotational weight and new rim tech / materials. These videos are perfect, the minutia of BMX is theraputic. Cheers!

0:43 Double butted, spokes, always snap on the butt get 14 gauge stainless steel spokes 👍🚲💨

Slick jokes with slick Phu comin at you! I’d be down to watch a 15-20min vid on the Phu/Epic beginnings. Shiii…maybe even a lil series and some highlights from the boys thrown in from over the years 🤔 I know that’ll take a min to put together but I’d watch it for the BMX culture 💪 Also, another “real street bmx” bike check would be dope 😂🍻

Sapim Double butted spokes will never let you down! But I have broken some from having them too tight.

Thank you man for talking about this I have alienation felon and deviant laced with all ti spokes to a profile totem hub I'm a little dude and I just do basic bmx tricks not like jumping off roofs n shit..I was wondering so much about them because I've never had a bike with em so big thanks to u man..I'll be ordering some ti crank bolts here shortly from yall..keep talking man your the inly bmxer that I can understand what u teach so thanks fam alot!!

Good take!! Never considered this before

very nice video 👏

Thanks

I wanna give a shout out the the Casey family. Thoughts and prayers to you, im truly sorry for your loss.

Any EPIC BMX merch available?? I really enjoy these videos! 😎

Could you review/talk about string spokes 🙂

Why no 4130 cromo spokes?

Should find out about the Berd Spokes

Is the 14 gauge double butted stronger then 12guage spokes for my ebike. Keep popping spokes need advice on wat spoke is strongest?

On the subject of spokes how do you know what size spokes you need because there's different hubs out there, how do you measure?

So what is a good tension and how to check? Every time the temperature changes here my spokes make noises and get loose. I'm always afraid to put to much tension on it so I just put as little as possible on to stop the noise.

Never used them always bought the 14g spokes I never seen the used for them I always thought of them for racing Bmx but never freestyle Bmx

I also still wanna see those berd spokes not sure if I'm spelling it right.

Butted spokes and alloy nipples are lighter then titanium spokes. Further more. Butted spokes can be stronger then regular spokes.

Couple of my spokes are bent very sharply so I can’t bend it back perfectly, it’s wavy, is it ok👌I trued them afterwards

hey Alfredo I have a heavens gate Rame bar folks seat I have money to buy the rest of the parts can I pull up to the store & help me choose my parts and assemble it ?

boss ask lng po ano po size ng bladed spokes png ksyrium wheelset

Some people still believe that titanium is the holy grail of metals for bmx, and they would like to have a 'titanium-everything' bike. With today's parts designs, titanium is totally unnecessary, I could say almost 'obsolete'. I've compared aluminium and titanium parts over the years, and some newly design parts were even lighter in aluminium than Ti, at the very least the same weight, or the weight difference is negligible. So if you're going for weight difference, why pay double, sometimes quadruple the price to lose 1/2 oz? The only Ti part I would give it a try is a crank axle.

so thats how

Do Ethan exploded these carbon rims?

"he likes budlight" 😂😂😂

Do y’all cut & thread your of your spokes Manually with a cutter or do you have a machine to do it??? I think, titanium, exposure, overrated for Park & Street if you got the money that’s fine. And carbon fiber rims are just a whole different aspect. As far as I would go is titanium spindles are pegs are Bar end’s. He’s a ride about breaking spokes with titanium. And I hate it working and trying to true titanium spokes. Specially, if they’re at that point.

Yeah as a machinist, titanium isn’t as malleable as stainless , it will just snap instead of bend

why no chromoly spokes?

What about them vegan hemp spokes

Honestly just feel like the spokes are to tight why would they blow out on max doing a skid but not on the pro's?