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Are Engineers nothing without Scientists? or is it the other way around? 

Point of Uncertainty
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“Scientists investigate that which already is; engineers create that which has never been.”
This thought provoking video will make you question whether engineers are more important to this world or scientists... We have featured two of the most influential personalities of their fields. This video shows you the point of view of Elon Musk and Michio Kaku when asked if it's science that driving engineering or it's the other way around.
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* Elon Musk: Who's Better? Engineers or Scientists? ( • Elon Musk: Who's Bette... )
* Michio Kaku: Engineer vs. Physicist ( • Michio Kaku: Engineer ... )
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@PointofUncertainty
@PointofUncertainty Год назад
What do you think... Does engineering drive discoveries and science or is it the other way around?
@user-lb3ex6yh9u
@user-lb3ex6yh9u Год назад
I completely agree with the physicist there. After a new invention or discovery we just lose interest in it. It's then left to others like engineers to commercialise it. Viewing with a different perspective, no commercialisation would happen had the physicists not stepped in. So that's the answer.
@sonicmastersword8080
@sonicmastersword8080 6 месяцев назад
Both of these responses are wrong. They are interdependent. You cannot have the advances of one without the other.
@yashJoshi-hn6bf
@yashJoshi-hn6bf 6 месяцев назад
@@sonicmastersword8080 nope science is not dependent on engineering.
@Parzzyval
@Parzzyval 11 дней назад
yup you’re dumb. I’m an engineering student, so partially biased. think of it like related rates in differential equations. both influence one another, although one may influence the other more heavily. engineering pushes the bounds of discoveries made in science. think of p type and n type transistors in semiconductors. it’s a feedback loop with engineering demanding more scientific breakthroughs, and we apply what scientists figure out at scale.
@istvanp2819
@istvanp2819 Год назад
Both of them are totally right from their position. A good engineer is a promising physicist, a good physicist is partially an engineer.
@yashJoshi-hn6bf
@yashJoshi-hn6bf 25 дней назад
No
@happyhomosapien3138
@happyhomosapien3138 Год назад
Michio Kaku's explanation was on point, and it's more than enough to end this topic.
@PointofUncertainty
@PointofUncertainty Год назад
Yeah... It's like symbiosis, both needs each other in order to survive.
@manishneekhra4583
@manishneekhra4583 Год назад
@@PointofUncertainty But unfortunately there are very less high paid jobs for scientists than for engineers due to which most people do engineering 😐
@PluetoeInc.
@PluetoeInc. 3 месяца назад
@@manishneekhra4583 which weeds out the money seekers from the pool thus maintaining a natural equilibrium between number of scientists to engineers as a specific constant ratio (i speculate)
@priyanshu_6969
@priyanshu_6969 3 месяца назад
@@PluetoeInc. whats wrong with seeking money
@PluetoeInc.
@PluetoeInc. 3 месяца назад
@@priyanshu_6969 nothing , theres nithing wrong in it , the problem is with pure money seeking zombies .
@silverbright8111
@silverbright8111 Год назад
This question is Just like hisenberg's uncertainty principle
@PointofUncertainty
@PointofUncertainty Год назад
Damn True!
@user-eq5kb3sn3p
@user-eq5kb3sn3p 4 месяца назад
It's your knowledge that is incomplete
@PluetoeInc.
@PluetoeInc. 3 месяца назад
@@user-eq5kb3sn3p I kind of agree , well the line between engineers and physicists aint so blurry
@yashJoshi-hn6bf
@yashJoshi-hn6bf 25 дней назад
@@PluetoeInc. it is you are unable to see it
@SaptarshiChakraborty-zo5dz
@SaptarshiChakraborty-zo5dz 10 месяцев назад
In short, scientists solve the problems of engineers and engineers solve the problems of the society.
@lusakomwakalenga
@lusakomwakalenga 7 месяцев назад
Scientist are the back bone. In that case
@PluetoeInc.
@PluetoeInc. 3 месяца назад
@@lusakomwakalenga I like to think it of it like a relay race , both are working with postulates/axioms are running with it to see where it leads them , engineer's axiom's are physicists theorems , altho I do think physicist runs the first lap but both are kinda the same .
@PluetoeInc.
@PluetoeInc. 3 месяца назад
@@lusakomwakalenga & dont confuse my answer to be a diplomatic one , I hate diplomatic answer and I hate hypocrisy .
@yashJoshi-hn6bf
@yashJoshi-hn6bf 25 дней назад
It's totally different actually
@yashJoshi-hn6bf
@yashJoshi-hn6bf 25 дней назад
Pure Scientists remain above everyone else in pillar of wisdom as they create knowledge, applied scientists found a way to find applications of that knowledge in daily life & engineers apply that technically.
@victornweze7230
@victornweze7230 Год назад
...or the physicists are just waiting for engineers to catch up.
@PointofUncertainty
@PointofUncertainty Год назад
Well... yeah maybe...
@victornweze7230
@victornweze7230 Год назад
@@Mendax297 You dunce, the theories that guide the inventions have to come first. Learn to read and comprehend!
@TheManOfTomorrow
@TheManOfTomorrow Год назад
@@victornweze7230 exactly! Most of the times, Engineers need the understanding of the concept to invent things that are based on those concepts. In case of some (not all) concepts, physicists and mathematicians can survive (Note: not talking about literal life-death survival here) without engineering and machines but engineering need both i.e. mathematics and conceptual/theoretical physics.
@engineer3447
@engineer3447 11 месяцев назад
​@@TheManOfTomorrowyou just wrote exactly opposite
@Dermie
@Dermie 11 месяцев назад
I am engineer so trust me, we dont need anything we just measure
@parthkhanayat420
@parthkhanayat420 Год назад
What a beautiful video !!, Good Job Ankit
@paulnnamdi4098
@paulnnamdi4098 Год назад
I liked the video because of Michio Kaku and not Elon Musk. Kaku put everything succinctly as it is while Elon was just ego rambling. I studied Engineering myself.
@yashJoshi-hn6bf
@yashJoshi-hn6bf 25 дней назад
You have studied engineering, so you would know that applied scientists are the one who find applications of science & you engineers apply them in real life
@attitudeprince3563
@attitudeprince3563 3 месяца назад
Computer Science Is Engineering Discipline and branch of Electronic Engineering....
@sanskaarsingh2669
@sanskaarsingh2669 Год назад
Just Awesome👏
@mohdareeb3541
@mohdareeb3541 Год назад
Bro please make video related to programming.... like its application and real life uses....
@PointofUncertainty
@PointofUncertainty Год назад
Sure, the next video will be on it! 🔥
@TPMA_Official
@TPMA_Official 2 месяца назад
In short Scientist is to discover and Engineer is to create. Both must work together for the successful creation.
@yashJoshi-hn6bf
@yashJoshi-hn6bf 25 дней назад
Engineers don't create anything, they just make uses of science more efficient and profitable & those uses which engineer works on is created by applied scientist
@Someonrr4458
@Someonrr4458 10 месяцев назад
Both are great in their way
@nnishchit289
@nnishchit289 Год назад
Engineers are train and physicist are the tracks
@yashJoshi-hn6bf
@yashJoshi-hn6bf 25 дней назад
Actually, you are somewhat wrong here Scientists are track that's true but engineers are not train they are passengers on that train & the actual train is applied scientists
@nazeerahammed3019
@nazeerahammed3019 Год назад
Btw from which college are you from ?
@PointofUncertainty
@PointofUncertainty Год назад
I am gonna join college this year... I'll update you after JEE Advanced 😉
@YloGamerPro
@YloGamerPro 5 месяцев назад
We are just a Team, there is no reason to attack each other. We have the same goal, and it's to make the advancements to our world be a better place. Scientist and engineers together lead the development of the future.
@PluetoeInc.
@PluetoeInc. 3 месяца назад
I like to think it of it like a relay race , both are working with postulates/axioms are running with it to see where it leads them , engineer's axiom's are physicists theorems , altho I do think physicist runs the first lap but both are kinda the same .
@yashJoshi-hn6bf
@yashJoshi-hn6bf 25 дней назад
@@PluetoeInc. They don't depend on each other
@yashJoshi-hn6bf
@yashJoshi-hn6bf 25 дней назад
True
@karimmoubayed330
@karimmoubayed330 2 месяца назад
Thats why i chose to take Engineering Physics for my undergraduate. We are the inventors
@dominicbravo9360
@dominicbravo9360 Год назад
they are the same, government just split them so one can go to classroom and teach, one could go to laboratory to invent, research or discovered and one go to construction or industrialization for business and money making activities.
@pattern9271
@pattern9271 Год назад
Bro beauty of computer science please😄
@PointofUncertainty
@PointofUncertainty Год назад
Posting in some days sir!
@lusibhuty768
@lusibhuty768 4 месяца назад
You stole my words!
@valcartoon
@valcartoon Год назад
i think both of them is great
@rahulbasak2150
@rahulbasak2150 Год назад
Physics and Engineering both are related and dependent upon each other , sometimes Technology gives rise to new Physics ; at the other times Physics mostly gives rise to new Technology . Both have great impact on Society . Example :- Wireless Communication Technology which followed the Basic laws of Electricity and Magnetism in the 19th Century. Another Example of mostly Physics gives rise to new Technology :- Silicon Chip which triggered the Computer Revolution in the last 3 decades of 20th Century and many more .... !!!
@yashJoshi-hn6bf
@yashJoshi-hn6bf 25 дней назад
You should know that technology is created by inventors not engineer & inventors themselves are applied scientist
@alokpradhan9087
@alokpradhan9087 Год назад
When I very curious looking & waiting for scientists but I not feeling about on engineer.
@eren_yeager9927
@eren_yeager9927 6 месяцев назад
Dude shut up you commented in this video like 10 times
@kermit5948
@kermit5948 Год назад
The idea of discovery drives scientists but the idea of invention drives engineers. And these inventions are usually from these discoveries of scientists. Not saying one thing is above the other but both are equally contributing
@yashJoshi-hn6bf
@yashJoshi-hn6bf 25 дней назад
Inventions drive inventors not engineer there is difference in them
@jbangz2023
@jbangz2023 Год назад
It's both
@KeepCalmandLoveClassics
@KeepCalmandLoveClassics Год назад
It's like the Batsmen and Bowlers of any Cricket team. Or the Strikers and Defenders of any Football team. Both are equally important.
@lusakomwakalenga
@lusakomwakalenga 7 месяцев назад
No we scientist would replace engeenerers any time we wished just that we lose interest fast as said in the video
@yashJoshi-hn6bf
@yashJoshi-hn6bf 25 дней назад
They are important but engineer & scientists are not equal
@user-fo4ys7bx3y
@user-fo4ys7bx3y 2 месяца назад
The relationship is symbiotic.
@yashJoshi-hn6bf
@yashJoshi-hn6bf 25 дней назад
It's not
@ardhendubhooshans1english906
Sheldon ain't happy after seeing this...😬
@PointofUncertainty
@PointofUncertainty Год назад
😂😂😂
@Arunkumar-mp9fc
@Arunkumar-mp9fc 4 месяца назад
Engineer's are genius but scientist is the legend.
@lavyabansal9742
@lavyabansal9742 Год назад
It is the curiosity of discovery that drives science for engineering it is the uses of it and creating something more that's what I believe. By the way you never told us about yourself(I just read you are going to become a engineer.)
@PointofUncertainty
@PointofUncertainty Год назад
Well... you are right! Curiosity drives everything... . . And about myself... I am just a student right now and I am gonna go to college this year. And I am also a National Level Coding Competition winner!
@yashJoshi-hn6bf
@yashJoshi-hn6bf 25 дней назад
Engineers do not find application inventors do
@pattern9271
@pattern9271 Год назад
Bro computer science pls
@thimiranimsara9741
@thimiranimsara9741 Год назад
Physicists found what can change the world....Engineers change the world from it.
@yashJoshi-hn6bf
@yashJoshi-hn6bf 25 дней назад
Except applied scientists spoonfed engineer
@alokpradhan9087
@alokpradhan9087 Год назад
A person will become a engineer easily but not to possible will become a scientist.
@eren_yeager9927
@eren_yeager9927 7 месяцев назад
It's the other way around
@eren_yeager9927
@eren_yeager9927 7 месяцев назад
I suggest you attend an English class first
@SteveOmnipotent
@SteveOmnipotent 6 месяцев назад
​@@eren_yeager9927It's the way he described , even though the english is terrible, it's true.
@eren_yeager9927
@eren_yeager9927 6 месяцев назад
@@SteveOmnipotent Good luck getting employed in a high paying job
@eren_yeager9927
@eren_yeager9927 6 месяцев назад
@@SteveOmnipotent You're typing this on a computer/phone designed by an engineer
@Plethoria074
@Plethoria074 5 месяцев назад
We would slide into obscurity without the other, as an engineer, physicists are the scientists I will never slander.
@philhermetic
@philhermetic 2 месяца назад
The laws of thermodynamics were based on the study of the steam engine. Engineers had already built and run steam engines and locomotives without any knowledge of thermodynamics!
@yashJoshi-hn6bf
@yashJoshi-hn6bf 25 дней назад
They are invented by inventors & inventors themselves are applied physicist.
@Duckface998
@Duckface998 Год назад
Engineering is a science, so the differentiation is stupid but, physicists make the world go round, engineers make the world tangible
@PointofUncertainty
@PointofUncertainty Год назад
Absolutely mate!
@yashJoshi-hn6bf
@yashJoshi-hn6bf 7 месяцев назад
Engineering is not science
@Duckface998
@Duckface998 7 месяцев назад
@@yashJoshi-hn6bf yes it is
@yashJoshi-hn6bf
@yashJoshi-hn6bf 7 месяцев назад
@@Duckface998 nope it's just a different profession which uses science just like doctor, accountant.
@Duckface998
@Duckface998 7 месяцев назад
@@yashJoshi-hn6bf is biology just a different profession too? After all, its an applied and simplified version of chemistry, only difference is engineering uses more physics then biology does chemistry when doing it
@alokpradhan9087
@alokpradhan9087 Год назад
Science and Engineering is separat things, and science is studdy, research of Anything but a engineering is study of desighning, iging for use mass population.
@alokpradhan9087
@alokpradhan9087 Год назад
Not compare scientist & engineer because they are different kind of aim .
@yashJoshi-hn6bf
@yashJoshi-hn6bf 25 дней назад
Both Engineer & scientists lies on opposite position of knowledge pyramid.
@Comtodaddyl
@Comtodaddyl 8 месяцев назад
Basically. A physicists work happens in the brain. And an engineer is the crafts man.
@alokpradhan9087
@alokpradhan9087 Год назад
Engineering depend on science and science not depend on engineer.
@masoudsakha
@masoudsakha 5 месяцев назад
depends. without engineering equipments, you can not do precise experiments to improve your physical understanding
@michealliu8969
@michealliu8969 3 месяца назад
@@masoudsakhaapplied physics usually create their own machines
@yashJoshi-hn6bf
@yashJoshi-hn6bf 25 дней назад
@@michealliu8969 true
@yashJoshi-hn6bf
@yashJoshi-hn6bf 25 дней назад
@@masoudsakha Experimental equipments are made by inventors who themselves are applied physicist
@masoudsakha
@masoudsakha 25 дней назад
@@yashJoshi-hn6bf you think that for example Cern is created just by applied physicists. Thousands of Electrical and mechanical materials, ... engineers help to build that.
@trawsoza2926
@trawsoza2926 15 дней назад
I like the thumbnail lol both are physicists
@alokpradhan9087
@alokpradhan9087 Год назад
Whome population is big in world ( scientist or engineer) then what is easy or hard, then what is more important.
@alokpradhan9087
@alokpradhan9087 Год назад
Engineer (civil, mechanical,electrical) & scientist (physics, chemistry, biology, zoology, cosmology, ) study of universe.
@debomondal
@debomondal 10 месяцев назад
Why Mask is here? Rich does not make you wise. The way he is answering is the answer from an unwise person just like common people.
@Adelfuns18
@Adelfuns18 Месяц назад
Last century physicist did a lot of heavy lifting but todays physicist are stagnated putting all their attention and time on string theory, they need to work on something else with engineers to keep improving technology.
@matterasmachine
@matterasmachine Год назад
science is based on experiment. No radio - no experiments on radio. Therefore creation is first. Engineer is first.
@PointofUncertainty
@PointofUncertainty Год назад
Engineering forever! (I am also gonna become one soon) Cheers!
@AlokSingh-ld5zt
@AlokSingh-ld5zt Год назад
Theoretical physicist who gave theory of Electro magnetic radiation are laughing sitting at a corner.
@AlokSingh-ld5zt
@AlokSingh-ld5zt Год назад
Theoretical physicist who gave theory of Electro magnetic radiation are laughing sitting at a corner.
@matterasmachine
@matterasmachine Год назад
@@AlokSingh-ld5zt you are saying bullshit. First there was faraday and and his electric engine created through retries.
@karmveer_singh_rajpurohitr4686
@@matterasmachine but the engine word says about fundamental laws of physics. And an engineer never can work on anything like this he just apply the fundamentalism of physics. And finally it's about who is first it's always a scientists, they give the direction to engineers to work on the subjective.
@io2068
@io2068 7 месяцев назад
A good engineer is a Great Physicists 👍
@yashJoshi-hn6bf
@yashJoshi-hn6bf 25 дней назад
No
@user-eq5kb3sn3p
@user-eq5kb3sn3p 4 месяца назад
I am little late here, but yeah Elon is True! Science owes more to steam engine than what steam engine owes to science. What came first scientist or engineers? Engineers, men who invented fire or wheel were damn great engineers, physicist are just philosophers building castles in air! Their work is often useless since it has nothing to do with utility. What is science? Attempt to predict laws underlying some phenomenon, usefulness is not a criteria here but Novelty is. What is Engineering? Creating something badass that is gonna change the way we live, to design cost effective, safe and profitable artifacts is engineering, it owes nothing more to science than it owes to language. Engineering is intuition for how things work, it's passion for invention of crazy stuff. Physics owes to engineering much more than anything else.
@yashJoshi-hn6bf
@yashJoshi-hn6bf 25 дней назад
Engineers don't invent anything, inventors do & inventors themselves are applied scientists.
@yashJoshi-hn6bf
@yashJoshi-hn6bf 25 дней назад
We exist because of science, science thrives towards eternal knowledge, it gives us wisdom, Engineering do not stop us from believing in superstition, science do,, science flame of knowledge!
@blackhole4813
@blackhole4813 2 месяца назад
Scientists are also engineers. Engineers can't be scientists unless they do research.
@railgap
@railgap 5 месяцев назад
You based a video on this? Seriously? Don't you have homework you should be doing? Have you tried NOT being laughable?
@space_monkey3188
@space_monkey3188 Год назад
Engineering is the weakest branch of science no cap fr
@eren_yeager9927
@eren_yeager9927 6 месяцев назад
You're typing this on a phone/computer designed by an engineer
@yashJoshi-hn6bf
@yashJoshi-hn6bf 6 месяцев назад
@@eren_yeager9927 um invented by an inventor
@yashJoshi-hn6bf
@yashJoshi-hn6bf 6 месяцев назад
Engineering is not science
@eren_yeager9927
@eren_yeager9927 6 месяцев назад
@@yashJoshi-hn6bf Can you read?? I said "DESIGNED" not invented, says a lot about your comprehension
@eren_yeager9927
@eren_yeager9927 6 месяцев назад
@@yashJoshi-hn6bf Get your facts right, the transistor was literally invented by an engineer together with a physicist, but guess what? It was the engineers who revolutionized it where they could fit literally billions of transistor in a thumb-sized chip. Also, it's the engineers who actually design technological systems
@alokpradhan9087
@alokpradhan9087 Год назад
Engineer are not smarter then to a poor physics student
@alokpradhan9087
@alokpradhan9087 Год назад
Elon mask a engineer with buisness man but not great from Elbert Einstein.
@illusion-x8518
@illusion-x8518 11 месяцев назад
PHYSICS❤❤❤😍😍😍😘😍.
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