Are ETFs better than self custody? Currency Wars 2 and VR Class (1 min video)

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During the February 2024 Patreon Q&A, someone asked if owning bitcoin through an ETF is better than self custody. Referencing his epic talk "Currency Wars 2" Andreas explains why ETFs are like staying home on a VR headset - you're not even on the boat.
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Комментарии : 77

@johnbeach846 5 месяцев назад

The "vr class"... love it

@michaelschliwa1096 5 месяцев назад

The Bitcoin community owes this guy huge. Great educator and a great thinker. His explanations are why I was able to grasp the protocol enough to be confident in it

@darraez 5 месяцев назад

I'm glad i actually saw the video instead of just get infuriated by the title 🤣

@expioreris 5 месяцев назад

There is nothing wrong with the title. How can a question infuriate you?

@perrybarnacle 5 месяцев назад

Self custody is great for people who can manage wallets and have some technology background. Retirees, non-technical people, etc are better off going with spot ETF purchased in a tax advantaged account. A Roth IRA filled with spot Bitcoin ETF will be a really nice source of tax-free gains upon retirement.

@sunchips5 5 месяцев назад

I totally agree with what you said. Even for tech-savvy folks with a lot of bitcoins, ETF's can help with the diversification of one's custody of this asset and would make sense to use for retirement accounts.

@pran10000 5 месяцев назад

All Millenials and GenZ can manage a HWW.

@DavidDubord 5 месяцев назад

I bought ETF in a TAX FREE account for living and spending. Sill have bags. It's called a Maximalist diversification

@heygoober1653 5 месяцев назад

I was gonna say ETFs are raffle tickets, but Andreas KO'd me with the VR class. Epic 😂

@amtsgedicht 5 месяцев назад

love to hear you - classy like always! love it! greetings from zürich.

@DukeFan99 5 месяцев назад

I don’t know if I agree. Self custody is too difficult for most people and not having exposure to bitcoin is very risky. So etf is great for regular people.

@wrfootball3847 5 месяцев назад

Well you could say no pain, no gain. In the early days of internet, browsers and other tech was to difficult, but a little bit of learning and its very easy. Self custody with a nano ledger....so so easy. I got noobs using them...just requires learning something new, which most don't want to do. You see, most people forgot about the last GFC, a big warning that you don't control your own funds. It will need another huge financial crisis for people to realise then they will finally get it. I'm not saying go all in on self custody but it's worth learning at least

@gainknowledgeandinsight 5 месяцев назад

I’m loving it! I get to put my IRA funds into BTC! So I can dollar cost average with money I didn’t think that I had. 😅

@pran10000 5 месяцев назад

Please read the first page of the white paper. Self custody is not at all hard for millennials and GenZ. Boomers can use ETF for price exposure - but that's not actual Bitcoin. Any Bitcoin that is not in self custody can eventually be confiscated by the state which defeats the whole point of Bitcoin.

@CreditCrusader 5 месяцев назад

After all these years the masses still don't understand.... NOT YOUR KEYS NOT YOUR COINS!

@davidcarbon9771 5 месяцев назад

Aloha from Hawaii! I heard your message on JRE back in 2015 and it changed my life. Bitcoin is hope and you are one of it's honest messengers.

@user-db9dd7hu1y 5 месяцев назад

the best short explanation ❤ thank you

@slinetty 5 месяцев назад

VR class.... lol .... love it!

@fabiomerlin8820 5 месяцев назад

ETFs defeat the purpose of having BTC. Thanks for the video.

@jimmytimber7074 3 месяца назад

Wicked smart. Thank you 👍

@Jalartifact 5 месяцев назад

I'm glad to see videos from you, Double AA

@stakand3972 5 месяцев назад

We need more people like Andrea!!

@pbr653 5 месяцев назад

Great analogy. 😂 I’m glad people are buying them though.

@realcyberghost 5 месяцев назад

Hehe, this was a nice one, I think the ETF’s are still better than USD or EUR, could be a first step. It’s probably also better than some exchanges, but unless you can take self custody later, you are locked in. So yah, it is more for institutional investing. The plebs better take steps towards self custody 😎

@6Dimensions-vf8vh 4 месяца назад

Great video!!!

@ThePokersurfer 5 месяцев назад

Momentum is EVERYTHING regardless of what class!

@highvoltagee 5 месяцев назад

brilliant analogy

@ThomasConover 5 месяцев назад

Haha 😮 this is the best explanation I’ve ever heard, of what the imaginary fake instrument a ETF really is. ❤️👍 Glad to see you’re still the OG of crypto, mister. 👍😎

@Junger2183 5 месяцев назад

I'm digging the stashe Mr. A!

@DimitrisKaritzis 5 месяцев назад

You are amazing man.. ! 😂 I love watching these videos

@chrisfilet 5 месяцев назад

Before watching the video I thought Andreas was going to offer classes in VR.

@formetoknow540 5 месяцев назад

The best in the business was here in the early days

@BTC_Vibes 5 месяцев назад

How about holding holding it on an exchange ? How does it compare in this cruise ship situation?

@MichaelCoughlanmusic 5 месяцев назад

AMEN.

@cj_clippy 5 месяцев назад

Wow, facial hair! Looking good Andreas!

@chevchelios354 5 месяцев назад

💯👏👏👏

@paranic7 5 месяцев назад

that was quick!

@TheMkkr 5 месяцев назад

Don't know what the other classes there are but I doubt physical based ETFs are the worst. They all have pros and cons. Self custody bitcoin is on its way to become unaffordable premium class though if the price continues to go higher faster than the chain can scale..

@jonathanlivingston7358 5 месяцев назад

Careful VR headsets are getting good 😂

@9Crow 5 месяцев назад

two tickets to paradise song - eddie money 😂

@sunchips5 5 месяцев назад

Great Song .. lol

@kapraweoko 5 месяцев назад

😂 Bravo

@crustybastard8256 5 месяцев назад

Awesome lol😂😂😂

@TheLongRun369 5 месяцев назад

But the appreciation is tax free in a Roth IRA

@alui5362 5 месяцев назад

LOL vr class XD so apt

@NA-lp2re 5 месяцев назад

It’s probably better than buying bitcoin on an exchange and leaving it there until the exchange goes bankrupt and steals it from you. But self custody is obviously best.

@pannlann148 5 месяцев назад

lol the VR class 🤣🤣🤣🤣

@bitpi5185 5 месяцев назад

ETF is perfect solution, if you want to donate btc for rich bankers! :)

@bitcornfarmer6868 5 месяцев назад

Hello. I love your content and have followed you since 2017. Somehow I got blocked on x and don’t know why

@robertwerner5992 5 месяцев назад

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@ajinkyakamate421 5 месяцев назад

So this is just Andreas saying BTC ETFs are pure shit in the most polite way possible. I like it.

@ajitha3130 5 месяцев назад

😂😂😂😂 that's cool

@my.luminaire 5 месяцев назад

😂😂❤

@bradmarcus26 5 месяцев назад

It matters why you buy BITCOIN and what you plan on using it for. If you trust centralized companies and governments than etf's are the perfect vehicle.

@wojohowitz5432 5 месяцев назад

how does this logic fit in with "the great taking",? ETF's will get gutted just like every other stock, security etc.

@jybevox 5 месяцев назад

Bitcoin ETF: "You’ll own nothing and be happy".

@uriuruiru 5 месяцев назад

🎤⬇️💥

@greggapowell67 3 месяца назад

for people who's money is tied up in a self-directed IRA... Bitcoin ETFs are an good way, perhaps, to gain exposure to the crypto market without taking a 10% tax hit for withdrawing money prior to being 59.5 years old.

@88gcllc 5 месяцев назад

Self custody u own the asset, ETF’s r settled n cash and u don’t own any BTC at all, so self custody is 100% the right choice.

@b.magoba2772 5 месяцев назад

ROTFL 🤣🤣🤣

@PatrickAyelle 5 месяцев назад

Andrea’s does not mince words

@patmar7754 5 месяцев назад

😂😂 si si

@asteriskesque 5 месяцев назад

HAAHAHAAHAHAAA.... ahem. Chortle.

@fowchiiiliedpuppiesdied 5 месяцев назад

He double hockey sticks, NO.

@rkeyology81 3 месяца назад

🤣🤣🤣

@hattrickchu 5 месяцев назад

AHHAHA

@ChiIeboy 5 месяцев назад

LOL

@pocangel 5 месяцев назад

ETF are actually good for a lot of reasons, diversifying your security is one.

@SuicidalBabyTTV 5 месяцев назад

LOL, as opposed to another wallet hidden some where besides your primary domicile.

@MrAdamKan 5 месяцев назад

@@SuicidalBabyTTVI agree. The only place an ETF might be appealing is from a pension where you can’t get direct exposure. Or for non technical family.

@pocangel 5 месяцев назад

@@SuicidalBabyTTV Yes, if you are a multimillionaire or billionaire having a % in etf is reasonable, for security reasons.

@sunchips5 5 месяцев назад

@SuicidalBabyTTV Right, there is a lot of value in diversifying your custody, especially when you own a lot of crytpo. The ETF's can help a lot with this.