I've said this before and I'll say it again. Being submissive is not the same as being subservient. Most people get these two words confused and think they are the same. They are not. That is the biggest problem here in the west. Most women think that being submissive is the same as being subservient. I do not know of any man western or not that wants a subservient woman. Submissive: willing to obey someone else. Subservient: to obey others unquestioningly
If 2 people are trying to drive the car at the same time & both are pulling at the steering wheel it will end in a wreck off the side of the road. To me submissive (although I don't use the word because of its negative connection here in the US) would be the woman taking her hand off the wheel and trusting her husband to steer while she takes on the task on looking at the map and providing him with information from the map. Sharing how far until the next turn and keeping watch for important road signs. Both are essential to getting to the destination. I think too many people have become so accustomed to having a GPS/smartphone navigate for them that they don't work as a team with their partner like they should. Sadly I think we have become so reliant on technology to where many people trust a smartphone's opinion over their own spouse. But I'm just an old man in a young man's body lol, 😆 so I don't think the same way most folks do my age.
Of course, you are correct and it’s a good point. In the Bible it’s mutual submission as well. The way I read it, the man is supposed to lead, as a servant and the wife is supposed to enable his leadership. God is supposed to be in the middle of this and the ultimate leader that both submit to. If the man is not using good moral discernment, I do believe that the wife can help keep him focused because he has to uphold his role also. He’s really serving her and the family and not his own selfish interests. I do believe it’s teamwork.
YES!!! I love you ladies!!! As an American man who just retired I have been single for twenty two years. I just got so sick and tired of the competitiveness over who was going to be the man in the relationship.
I'm an American male dating and formerly married to American women. This video confirms why I've now chose to dating will marry my Filipina as soon as her K1 visa is approved. Please pray for a speedy processing time for us. BTW I met my future wife on Christian Filipina
You sound ignorant judging American women. Did they bear your children? Did they have a full time job? These young Filipinas have no clue how people live in America. They just wait for a American left overs to make their life better. Old men think it’s great to be waited on, SMH.
Filipinas are more submissive, but it makes the man more encouraging and supportive towards his partner. If you want to know the true character of a man, look into the countenance of hide Wife. 🙂
Much respect for Cynthia, I value her opinion and would like to add that a Filipina's submissiveness is not a weakness but a desire for happy life. Despite being widowed, she is still very capable of running her life, she does not NEED a man, she DESIRES a man. I'm well aware that my own fiance's initiative has proven that she is capable of taking care of herself and building a future, but I'm so happy that I'm now part or her future. She may be submissive to me in many aspects, but I'll never cease to value her opinion,
My Filipina girlfriend of 6 years is a senior medical doctor. She is neither submissive, overbearing, nor argumentative. She often seeks and considers my advice and acts on it (usually quietly, without telling me, i.e., she's not doing this just to win my favor). This is something I really love about her. Likewise, I often take her advice too.
I think the word submissive has a negative connotation to it. I don’t like it and I think it gets used wrong in regards to foreigners coming to the P.I. to find a wife.
Many of Southeast Asia countries are just a few hours apart, therefore each country will have similar values with others. The Philippines Palawan island and Sabah Malaysia/Indonesia island, is closer than even to Manila. It therefore goes without saying that filipina's , Malaysians, and Indonesian women would all have common values ,traditions, and family bonding.. To often Filipina women are spoken of as if they drink some special kind of water different than any other Southeast Asia women. Women are women, worldwide ! There are Pro,s and Con,s in us ALL.
Cynthia such a wise and charming and intelligent lady. All very nice guests ! Submission = Cooperation. Support his lead and share in the effort to make it work. A Good leading husband honors and cherishes his wife, and considers and values her mind on matters.
The first lady answer on submissive was point on. Submissive to me is sharing all responsibilities. So both man and wife should be submissive at different times in live because of love. But all good answers good job ladies
It was great to see my favorite lady Girly (Cynthia) on the channel again!! 😁 I would absolutely adopt her as my 2nd mom if I could because she reminds me so much of the Sunshine that my mom was. So full of life & love, and it always makes me smile to see her! 😁 I really hope she finds a great Gentleman again because she absolutely deserves to have happiness and to not be lonely. As for me, I can only hope to find a woman my age that has Girly's zest for life & love. I'll be keeping you in my prayers Girly, and I hope that on one of my trips to the Philippines in the next couple years Ill get the chance to meet you. Much love!
I don't like that word because it has some negative connotations. I don't want a slave. I just want a feminine women, not one of these loud, combative, and argumentative ones we have in the US. This is one of the reasons (among many) I believe American men are attracted to the Philippines. This peaceful state of mind seems part of the culture. I don't know how true this is since I've never been there. The home should be a place of serenity, not a battlefield. I am looking for a partner that I feel truly loves me, not merely likes me or feels that I will do. I want to be the same for her. She has her strengths and I have mine and we are combining our strengths to minimize our weaknesses so we can build a better life. The hard part for men is finding someone that truly loves you and not someone who only sees you as a means to an end. The hard part for the woman, if she lets the man drive is, is picking a good driver. She had better choose well or she might find herself in the role of teaching him how to drive or pushing him into the passenger seat and taking over the wheel when he shouldn't be driving. So it's on the man. If we want to lead the family, we had better be good leaders--and good listeners because your wife can be very helpful to you in identifying areas where you are weak, or where you might be making a mistake--hopefully while stroking your shoulders, not hitting you on the head with a kitchen utensil and mocking your weakness or decisions. It's then up to us to grow stronger in that area, or reconsider our plans. (I did not mean to write a book.)
Great video , majority of the women here in the US would get pissed if they hear what the women are saying in your vid ...... ....... traditional values went out the window here in the US , majority of the women here want men to have traditional values but the women themselves don't want to be traditional with their boyfriend or husband smh , that's why so many relationships fail here in the US and women being alone is increasing at a rapid rate cause no man wants to deal with them and stay with them
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Another good topic, I believe if the man is the head of the family and makes most of the decisions, it is his responsibility to put the family’s needs first and work hard to take care of them and protect his family and put their needs above his own, that’s what being the head of the family really means, it is a very important job.
The first woman said it all, God bless her. And I pray she will find a husband that will hove her again. You can see how feminism infultrated the younger girls mindset. Aspecially the 2nd interview with the lady in the black, the chances of her finding a husband and be happy, might be less then the others who better understands the role of a husband in a marriage.
If you follow Jesus Christ, it goes like this: Christ is the Head Husband is next Wife in that order...if you want a long marriage follow Christ and his words.
Speaking of submissive what if a husband and a wife have been having a hard time meeting eye-to-eye on a certain topic and coming to a final decision who should make the final decision and end the days-long discussion you can't spend two years discussing something right somebody has to take the lead in coming to a conclusion who should that be the husband or the wife any Filipino women out there want to answer thank you
To love, honor & cherish. Words spoken many times over the years in front of witnesses, but many don't take it seriously these days. I'm with ya on the word submissive. I think the original definition might have had closer tied to Honoring her husband and trusting him to get their ship (their family) safely to their destination. Because if he's the captain it's ultimately his responsibility and his failure if the ship sinks during the voyage. But it's essentially for him to honor as well.
I respectfully disagree. It’s the opposite. They should be submissive but not necessarily agreeable if he’s not doing something right or for the wrong reasons. He has to uphold his role to serve her first. In the Christian religion it’s mutual submission but the guy is supposed to be a leader.
I would like to put in my opinion on why I think the word, "submissive", is probably not the right word to use despite it's relative accuracy. A godly marriage is defined as: A husband and a wife who have not had sex before marriage and who have not sullied their vows before their marriage. This can be understood as not cheating, being abusive, being manipulative, etc before their marriage otherwise their marriage would be built on lies of loyalty, faithfulness, mercy, compassion, honesty, forbearance, etc. When in reality during their dating phase also known as 'courtship' one or both partners violated their future vows. If the marriage vows had been violated before the marriage was officially recognized then you cannot become married in the eyes of God because it's a sham. Next, once vows are exchanged and the marriage is officially recognized the spouses then surrender to one another completely their own sovereignty as an individual to the other in the marriage bed in which you are expected to produce a child to combine the two individuals into one new individual made through the sanctity of their marriage as the fruit of their womb. Now all things regarding one or the other spouse is considered affecting both of them simultaneously. It is no longer, "her womb", it is now his as well. Just says his body is now her body. This is why it is expected for a husband and a wife to dress decently and to show restraint when interacting with others of the opposite sex because it would be indecent towards their marriage with their spouse. A spouse who refuses to show decency for themselves is also showing the same indecency for their husband or their wife which is a violation of their vows to become one flesh and of one mind and one spirit. The reason why I personally have an issue with so many self-proclaimed Christians, or Catholics who identify separately, having premarital sex, and then expecting to have the rights and privileges of marriage, is because very violated their vows before they've even become married. They violated their faithful adherence to the Lord's commands to not engage in promiscuity, adultery, lust, and self-debasement. However as we know God is good and faithful despite our lack of faithfulness which is signified by the church being referred to as a woman who was caught in adultery. Since God is good he allows and even suggests to become married to such women/men who have not upheld their purity until marriage. He allows for this because we as the church would never have been forgiven had he not been the faithful one to marry the church which is his bride despite her promiscuity. Knowing this you can permit but not condone marriage to a spouse who is not chaste. However from that moment forward it is expected of both partners in marriage to remain faithful and to be decent towards their spouse by denying themselves especially in regards to one another's needs. This is why God expects the same level of selflessness that he showed on the cross when he died for us while we were still sinners to love one another by these requirements: Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres. This verse is what marriage in Christ looks like. It is completely devoid of self for the sake of the spouse the same as Christ made himself void for the sake of his bride that is the church. If you cannot or will not empty out your own selfish desires and prideful manipulation of your partner then you are not worthy of marriage in fact God states that such people will be sent away from his presence for eternity. The idea of being sent away from God's presence is what is known as divorce. God is life and being sent away from him is the equivalent of death. When you are being made 'whole' in marriage you have the life of God the same as receiving the holy Spirit. The holy Spirit is a representation of the marriage of the man and the woman and their selfless love for one another. This is why secular versions of marriage which allow for such violations and abuses towards their spouses and for needless divorces are the definition of satanic marriage. They completely invert the meaning and purpose of the marriage as well as the sanctity of it. If any woman regardless of her nationality or race would want to violate these holy requirements then she is not a bride she is a harlot. If any man would want to violate these holy requirements that he has not a husband he is an adulterer and a blasphemer. This is why I've considered marriage with someone from the Philippines; because women there seem to still believe in the sanctity of marriage and the unification of two souls into one flesh in both mind and body through the birth of a new child and through obedience to their shared faith in the Lord. Maybe one day I'll be good enough to deserve your holy faithfulness. I pray that you'll be good enough for me one day too.
I don't agree with the idea that those who engage in pre-marital relations before they are married end up with their marriage being a sham in the eyes of God. Doing so doesn't account for the power of repentance and the washing clean of sin due to Christs sacrifice on the cross. Especially considering their act of repentance for their sin being followed by taking the action of making it right & getting married. Believing that the sacrifice of Christ combined with the act of repentance can't make a broken person/couple whole again to where their marriage would not be seen as good in God's eyes appears to understate the true power of Christ's attornment of our sins. It's possible that you provided that possibly later in your comment, but it wasn't said close enough to the "sham" part for me to easily connect it in my mind. I used to be told by some members in my community that I was going to hell because I didn't belong to a certain Christian denomination. That by not being part of that denomination that I wasn't saved by Jesus. Although it may not be your intention, it "feels" like you are saying something similar for those who engaged in relations prior to marriage. I very much hope I'm incorrect in my understanding of what you said, but wanted to express that it's how I perceived what you wrote. I have no desire whatsoever for those who sin before marriage to feel that they can't do the right thing and repent for their sin followed by getting married to once again become clean in God's eyes through the power of Christ attornment. But that's just my thoughts and I respect if your thoughts differ from mine. That said, I hope you have a great rest of your day 👍
@@WhenTheManComesAround My intentions was saying that the marriage would be a sham in God's eyes was coming from a place of purposeful and knowledgeful sin wherein the spouse would commit sin out of their selfish desires and then expect to receive all of the blessings of a holy marriage. Essentially this is similar to crucifying Jesus and then expecting him to be recrucified for you at your leisure just because you wanted to commit sins before the official marriage. I don't believe that it was right for them to tell you that you were going to hell because you didn't hold to a denomination or a certain religious institution. It's not for them to decide whether or not you belong to God or don't. To re-clarify my position above that I just stated, choosing at one point to become a sinner and then repenting is not disqualifying so long as you truly repented and do not continue to believe that it's acceptable to engage in such sins or to teach others to do the same. There are some women under the impression that they can commit fornication, manipulate, cheat, and steal from their partners and then get married. The very active disregarding the relationship before you've even become married is an act of rebellion against God and the purpose of marriage. When someone chooses to act in sin and then teaches others to do the same they will be found guilty by God. We don't get to commit sin against God, symbolized by your husband, and then get married and get all of the benefits. There are too many women who think that God is so lenient that he's going to allow you to be adulterous and even a murderer, through abortion, but so long as you repent at some point you should be able to receive all of the benefits of the marriage. He is truly graceful to those who are repentant of their decisions they made BEFORE they were aware of the severity of their choices. It's those women who choose to sin in full awareness of their destruction towards their husband and of their society and towards God who will not see the benefits of salvation nor should they be allowed to marry. Everybody thinks that God is a pushover who is just going to allow you to knowingly commit sin so long as you feel sorry about it at some point later on. If that was the case then Jesus Christ suffering on the cross would not have been sufficient because it would require him to be crucified over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over. Endlessly. It would require it because people knowingly keep sinning after realizing that they are causing the destruction of their society, their future marriage, their relationship with God, and with their future children. It's the one-time repentance that Jesus Christ offered to all mankind that we can accept or reject. When someone accepts the salvation it is equivalent to accepting an offer of marriage but the marriage has not been completed yet. Through loyalty, faithfulness, selflessness, humility, forbearance, compassion, and absolute love for your husband is where you find your salvation because man represents the image of God and woman represents the image of humanity. When a woman refuses to submit herself to her husband in all of her ways including her mind, her heart, her body, and even her decisions she is saying that she is above God and that God should be expected to serve her every needs as she sees fit. When she feels like committing sin she expects God to forgive her and when she commits adultery she demands God to look past it. This is what the image of man and woman becoming one flesh in a bed of marriage is supposed to bring to mind. When a woman is disloyal and selfish before they even become married what makes you think that person deserves marriage to a man of God or the right to raise a child in her own image just as broken as she is? God says to such people who commit sin knowingly after having received the salvation, "I will give to you a declaration of separation. You will no longer be welcome as a bride." This is his form of divorce from sinners who actively reject the sanctification that he requires. Mind you these aspects also apply to men of God who also commits sin knowingly. It goes both ways. The problem currently with society is that women believe that they should be the head of the family and that men should submit to them and worship them. This is like telling God to bow down and worship humanity because humanity sees itself as inherently perfect. How can you form a godly relationship with a woman such as this? How could you form a godly relationship with a man such as this? There can be no marriage if the person is not sanctified and they are not worthy of raising a child in the name of God. That is what I intended by my statements. I'm making a declaration of judgment against people who do not obey or listen to the voice of God or to the correction of God but would rather do as they see fit for their own pleasure. Such people as that regardless of their gender do not deserve to have the holy sanctity of a marriage in the name of God. You asked me if I'm saying that flawed people should not be married? I'm not saying that shouldn't or that God is not allowing flawed people to become part of his kingdom what I'm saying is simply this: You cannot fake your way into the kingdom of God. You cannot fake your way into a holy relationship in marriage. You cannot fake your way into raising a child in the name of God. There are a lot of women and men who believe that they can pretend to become holy and obedient to God and to their spouse in a marriage while simultaneously demanding all of their feminist values or societal expectations of their spouse and their relationships with their children. Unholy people do not deserve marriage and do not deserve to raise children especially not in the name of God. Choosing to willfully sin and violate your marriage is a sign of a person who is not a child of God nor obedient to the voice of God. A sinner is a sinner no matter if they call themselves a Christian or not. There are plenty of strippers and prostitutes who declare themselves, "children of God", while still engaging in self-destructive behaviors such as this. They will not see the kingdom of God nor will they find a holy marriage with a spouse who sanctifies themselves. Jesus Christ is perfectly sanctified and yet he married the adulterous human race that he calls his bride aka the church. He did so because he gave the church a 'pass' for their past sins which was the grace that he gave ONCE. Now that the Church is engaged for marriage to Christ, which means their salvation, it is expected for them to become holy and sanctified to the best of their ability but Christ knowing our weaknesses acknowledges that we will fail to be perfect and thus gives us his long suffering to endure our temptations and weaknesses. That is not the same thing as knowingly cheating on God by committing adultery or by abusing him repeatedly out of your own self-interest such as being a stripper or a prostitute for money. For those who would recrucify Christ for their own self-interest (happiness), expect eternal condemnation.
God says a wife is to honor and obey her husband and a husband is to love and cherish his wife! According to God the man is the head of the household! Otherwise you disobey God and are NOT a true child of God or a true Christian
We who are the family of Christ should not forget that Cynthia who is a recent widow should be treated with immense respect and honor in this difficult time. (1 Timothy 5:16) If any believing woman has relatives who are widows, let her care for them. Let the church not be burdened, so that it may care for those who are truly widows. In this context the former 'widows' are younger and capable of remarrying thus their commanded to be taken care of by their family until such time as they remarry. In the latter definition of 'widows' It's referring to those who are, "true widows", which are older women who cannot remarry or bear children. A lot of the believing members of our churches around the world do not do their service for the Lord in the way that they treat and take care of one another. We are supposed to be one family in Christ not only caring for ourselves or our own bloodline family. I believe we should as a church make sure that Cynthia, who is a true widow, is well taken care of. You should open a GoFundMe for her or some sort of donation service. I unfortunately am not in a position to do anything of the sort especially since my finances are non-existent. I'm hoping one day that we as a body of Christ can come together to heal and to nurture each other in love and selflessness.
She is a retired teacher and she receives monthly pension which is bigger compared to normal filipinos. No need for gofundme. I feel sorry for her but the reality is, there are poorer filipinos than her.
@@mytextstories It's not about her having a pension or her financial success the idea behind supporting true widows is that they should not be left alone and abandoned now that they're significant other is gone. Yes she may not need the financial support but she definitely needs her family in Christ now that she has no one.
@@mytextstories also the idea of there being poor Filipinos is not something that they should be complaining about for two reasons: • they could easily marry someone who is financially successful • they are young enough to work and to take care of themselves and have no excuse for refusing to change to help themselves There's a reason why we as societies around the world do not have as much compassion for those who are capable of helping themselves and refuse to. However that judgment should be tempered with compassion and understanding that not all people come from similar backgrounds socially and emotionally. I'm a younger man for instance who has more than enough capability to physically do work and to learn and strive to improve myself. Despite this being true I come from an extremely abusive and psychotic family in which my entire identity was broken down to being nothing more than a people pleaser who could never stand up for himself enough to do what is in his own best interest. Would that judgment of harshness and societal expectations still hold true with me? Of course not at least not until I get myself some help to get better and then after that I would be expected to help myself. I do have compassion for poor people from communities like in the southeast Asian Pacific region because they did not have the same upbringing which enables independence and or striving to better oneself. This is my long winded way of saying I understand your position on helping poor Filipinos instead of a true widow like Cynthia but everything should be done with consideration of the facts.
@@MyWatchIsEnded tbh, I dont think she is alone. You must know that our culture here is completely different from the west. Kids live with their parents and vice versa. It is extremely rare to find old people, especially moms who are living alone. That is the you can’t really find nursing homes here coz we take care of our elders. Hope my comment is not offending to you. Thanks for worrying or thinking about her situation tho.
@@MyWatchIsEnded " the idea of their being poor isn't something they should complain about"..you said that.. Who complains? Filipinos are generally content and simple people. Life is not always about money. In my case, I am a nurse and inatead of working abroad, I chose to stay here as I am happier here. Life is not always about money or wealth.
I think this topic is only one sided..if you only talk about the Filipina than it's only half a topic..this question is never address to the foreigner...if you are going to be in a True Relationship there needs to be a time when the man needs to be Submissive..a couple is a unit...like the brain and the heart...they must work together...one is not more important than the other ..it makes no sense to be submissive to someone who is not willing to be submissive back...are foreigner submissive ?
I can only speak for myself as I wouldn't assume another man has my same foundations. As for me, I don't use the word submissive because to me it has a different meaning. I'm in agreement with Cynthia when she talked about honoring her husband, thinking about him, and supporting him. I believe that a family is like flying a plane or sailing a ship. The captain is responsible for the safety and efficient operations to ensure the voyage is successful so that everyone arrives safety at the destination. The captain also has the responsibility of his entire crew (in this case his wife & kids). If they get hurt or damaged because he didn't ensure the routes they were taking were safe it's ultimately his failure as a captain. The copilot or first mate (his wife) may not make all of the final decisions on the running or steering the ship, but her role is without a doubt absolutely essential to the success of the voyage. She's consulted on all operations of the ship and her opinion far outweighs any other options of other members of the crew or people not on the ship. The captain may make the final decision, but the consequences of that decision are ultimately on his head. If they run into turbulent waters or a storm the captain is responsible to navigate to safety. There has never been a time when a first made has been blamed for a failure to keep the crew out of harms way if the captain wasn't incapacitated at the time. That said, if the captain is incapacitated then he must then hand over the wheel to this first mate (his wife) to steer the ship during that time. But if that does happen and she fails to steer the ship out of dangerous waters the responsibility comes down once again to the captain for not ensuring his first mate was fully trained & capable to take on the role of Captain at any time. So, the captain may make the decisions about where to steer the ship, but any failure to arrive at the destination or failure to keep the ship & crew safe & healthy are ultimately his cross to bare. So back to your question. When I eventually find, date and marry a woman in the future my top priority is her safety, health, mental well-being, and also ensure she is fully trained & capable to steer the ship if needs be. Her opinions, dreams and goals will become my goals as well. To become one flesh in so many ways. People often hear the word submissive as something to where the woman's ideas don't have value, and that it's my way or the highway but in my mind it is absolutely the polar opposite. Having 2 people pulling the wheel of the ship at the same time in different directions can only lead to disaster. To me, the part of being submissive comes into play by her letting go of the wheel because she trusts me to guide the ship with responsibility & honor. That she trusts me to steer while she focuses on the running of the ship & crew. It's a team effort and without both people doing their job to the best of their abilities the ship will crash or be capsized in the storm, the ship will sink, and all hands will be lost forever to the sea. I hope all of that made sense and that I gives you a better idea of how I view relationships. As I said, I only speak for me, but this is how I see a successful relationship working. That said, I appreciate you giving me the opportunity to respond to your comment & hope you have an incredible day 👍
