Are Lighter Wheels and Tires Better? Testing XC Race Wheels on my Enduro Hardtail - Hardtail Party

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In this episode we take a ride on my Banshee Paradox v3 enduro bike shod with xc race wheels. I'm trying to see just how different my bike feels with the exact same geo, but totally different wheels and tires. I believe swapping wheels and tires can completely change the way a bike feels. Let's find out. Did you learn something valuable? If so, show your appreciation and support this channel by becoming a Patron today: / hardtailparty
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@carloswright 4 года назад

10:23 thankfully I'm not the only person who can't stand loud hubs. Engagement= good. Hearing it= bad

@Rusty-Metal 4 года назад

Here in the Midwest we love our weenie tires. I run Racing Ralph 2.35 and 2.25 tubeless. Fast and grippy in our clay and sandy soil. One trip to Copper Harbor in a northern Michigan and I had a razor slash within 30 seconds though. Tires are very area specific.

@Detroit3Pistons 3 года назад

What wheels do you run with that setup?

@phoenixeasyrider6026 4 года назад

This is a crazy passion, so many variables! Some of my struggles are equipment, some poor technique. I guess that's what makes it so much fun. Looking forward to the time when my bike is an extension of my mind. That's why I'm now a Patron I need the help! Thanks for your content.

@jasonmcmillan1165 3 года назад

Looking forward to trying out my maxxis Ikons. Thank you for all of your situational reviews. Very helpful

@tonkadestroyer6513 4 года назад

I really like these long videos of you riding through the trails! and doing reviews on things. Your the only channel I know who does it this way 👍

@hardtailparty 4 года назад

I appreciate it, thanks.

@ElevationEveryWeekend 4 года назад

Good overview, about what I expected to happen. It’s all situation specific based on terrain and riding style, but like a lot of things probably setting up somewhere in the middle would gain some of the efficiencies without completely losing the traction and comfort of a more burly setup. For me in CO with climbs and tech I can see setting up for 80% of what I ride👍🏻

@breakandrun70 3 года назад

Great review on the tires and wheels, I tried the same thing on my Norco Fluid, went from 27 x 2.6 to 27 x 2.35 on the tires. It helped some but I just need a lighter bike. Have a great day on the mountains.

@abuzman123 4 года назад

You are absolutely right. I have a Tassajara that I have run Velociraptors, 2.1 front and 1.95 rear, and also Nevegals, 2.3 front and 2.1 rear on the same light wheels. These seem to have become outdated tires now but good in their time. Nevegals were great where trail conditions dictated but with the Velociraptors the Tass handles and accelerates like a sports car. The difference is of course tread but more importantly weight. Great videos and I especially like it when you make changes to bikes and take them on challenging trails to see how they perform.

@billgibson4232 3 года назад

Great video. Really emphasizes the importance of finding the right tire for your terrain, and how much it can change the riding characteristics of you bike. Here in the Midwest, there are a lot of guys going with DHF's for more rowdy trails, and then the other end of the spectrum are the Racing Ralph, Ikons, etc... Last season I started riding Vittoria Barzo/Mezcal front/rear 29 x 2.35 around here, they are really a good trail/xc tire, run about 100 grams heavier than the Ralph, Nics and Ikons, but the sidewalls and casing are tougher and the traction takes it up a notch without feeling like you have to work harder on the climbs. They're now making a 29 x 2.6 and I have GOT to get one for the front of my current bike. Based on the 2.6 Mezcal I put front of on my rigid SS, the volume, ride, weight (810g), and traction should be sublime! I'd sure be interested in your opinion how they work out in Sedona.

@Marmuz1982 4 года назад

I did the same experiment changing only the tires and I had the same feelings. I prefer to fit larger tires, suffer a little more uphill but be able to go down safely where and how I want

@norootsnoproblem 4 года назад

Super awesome experiment!

@nickmolinaro2158 4 года назад

Great vid. This is exactly why I have a 27.5+ and 29 race setup for my Tallboy v3.

@hardtailparty 4 года назад

That's a great way to go. Makes it feel like two totally different bikes.

@svsilverfin 4 года назад

Stranded in the Middle East working but dreaming of buying a Specialized Chisel or Epic as soon as I return to Alabama. Your videos are great and confirm 3 things I have been thinking about lately. We are probably going to retire to Arizona (Payson and surrounding high country is the first place we will check out), I am getting a XC hardtail and my retirement gift will be a 2019+ Miata RF. Seems like you have checked all three of these boxes! Our company bike is an 35lb alloy Evoke hardtail 29er but with the most basic components (like cable disc brakes). The frame is a large (too big) but it has non-slack angles so is still fast and fun to ride for daily exercise. Thanks for this channel...it has made my time over here a little easier. Keep the hits coming.

@mikeljhonson8959 4 года назад

While watching this, i remember my experiment with different tyre on my xc hardtail 29er. I found the end result is so fascinating that i am sharing this here. You know Schwalbe smart sam tyres are pretty popular in hardtail bike segment. As it is designed for basically xc or commuters in mind. While Schwalbe's nobby nic tyre is for downhill or trail enduro riders. But after riding with 650gram 90 tpi performance line nobby nic both front and rear on my 29er xc hardtail, i found it performs much faster and speed up quicker than two 860 gram, 90tpi performance line smart sam. Though nobby nics knobs are so aggressive and spaced wider because of that their rolling generates considerable vibration on paved road. While smart sam center line is so jam packed that it felt weirdly muted if you came straight out of nobby nics. At the end tyre's grip, rolling, longevity is always important to consider but the biggest factor while considering any tyre should be the weight. Oherwise, how come a less weight enduro tyre felt more comfortable to ride than a overweight xc tyre!

@jamiesessford6599 4 года назад

I have a Spot Brand Longboard 9 with a pair of Spank Oozy 295 Trail for 2.3” DH tyres and a pair of Stans ZTR Crest for 2.1” XC tyres. I sold my Full Sus before Christmas because I just use the hard tail all the time and swap between wheels. I sold my flat bar road/commuter bike at the weekend as, besides recent lockdown jaunts, it never got used and have put some of the cash towards some Panaracer GravelKing 45c which should fit on the Stans. Hoping they are here for the weekend to experiment but the theory of two wheel sets definitely runs true.

@montyjcm 3 года назад

Love the channel.. just ordered an XL Paradox V3 frame to build out! Been on FS for the last 4 bikes. This will be a nice change of pace!

@hardtailparty 3 года назад

Excellent choice, it's one of my favorite hardtails I've ever ridden.

@reallybigphilly 4 года назад

I thought as much - great tyres for climbing, flowy sections and naturally grippy surfaces, but they do fall short when it gets really rocky and gnarly. There's a hand full of rocky features on one trail near me, which I do clear with Ralphs and Rays, but I need to go slow and be precise about my lines. For my local trails in dry conditions the Nobby Nics are already feeling a little sluggish - imagine that... ;) althoug they do hold up better when it's muddy. Nice experiment!

@carlosgomezzzzzzz 4 года назад

My next setup for XC racing will be something like this, trail geometry + light/race wheels

@246Drew 4 года назад

This vid was very interesting. Trying to "fine tune" my current wheel set. My CushCore consideration is all with keeping my wheels as light as possible but having solid trail capability and not beating the heck out of me during a ride...lol... plus some rim protection. The 29x2.4 Rekon's on the rear wheel at ~20 psi feels pretty good; 30mm ID rim. That size would keep me in the range of CushCore XC. May get to drop a psi or 2 and that is significant.

@wallyedmonds8199 3 года назад

I love Nobby nicks but 2.8 😉 thinking of Cush core , true area where you ride makes big difference

@ravynx 4 года назад

Yep, nail on the head regarding tires are the major component in stopping power. It's another misconception in the motorsports world where people think they can slap a big-brake-kit on their car but not change out their 400 treadwear tires thinking they'll get massive performance gains.

@davidgeiger8620 4 года назад

I love schwalbe tires,i ride on my cheaptrick 29 er front hans dampf soft,nobby nic rear, have very goid experience with it...... cush core rear of course

@guillermoq7884 4 года назад

great review, I like the lightness feel of an xc wheelset specially on the climbs , a pair of maxxis ikons or more xc/trail tires would be more interesting to test in the future...

@hardtailparty 4 года назад

I wish I had the budget to test a whole bunch of tires, but sadly I can't afford to purchase $120 of ties just for one video. I need a tire sponsor to be able to do all the tests I have in my head.

@JenkinsB 2 года назад

@@hardtailparty Where you at KENDA!!!!!?????!!!!!

@monjesmedia Год назад

Great video. I recently got back into biking and picked up a Marin Muirwoods to ride my neighborhood trails up here in WA. My primary objective is to drop weight for an upcoming hernia surgery. In the short time I’ve had the bike, I’ve already dropped 20 pounds with 20 more to go. Since I started riding again, it’s become the part of my day I look forward to the most. I’m already researching my next bike that I plan to invest in as a reward for dropping the weight and getting my surgery done. This was the perfect topic as I am torn between a trail bike and an XC bike. I really like the idea 💡 of putting lighter wheels on a trail bike as opposed to beefing up an XC bike for for more trail oriented riding. Lots of research to do. I took a short ride on a Specialized Fuse and plan on checking out a few others. Hoping to get my surgery done this Winter, so will likely join your Patreon soon. Thanks for all the great content you put out. I moved up to the Seattle area after living in Tucson for 17 years. I really connect with your content. It has truly served as a big inspiration for me. Keep up the fantastic work. You’ve certainly made a fan out of me!

@hardtailparty Год назад

Congrats! Simon Lawton of Fluidride, is one of the greatest MTB instructors on the planet and he lives in Seattle. When you're ready for some skills clinics, I 100% recommend his clinics, starting at the fundamentals course. He's amazing

@monjesmedia Год назад

@@hardtailparty Thanks! I’ll look him up!

@d4bid15 3 года назад

The wheelset and tires were my first upgrade as soon as I got my Marin San Quentin. The stock ones that it came with were super heavy and the Vee Co Flow Snaps was super slow rolling.

@hardtailparty 3 года назад

I hate those vee flow snaps. Good call!

@johnbuntin7188 Год назад

I agree with you, think the Ikons would be better yet not to heavy and still corner good.

@mikerotchburns1622 9 месяцев назад

i love the sketchy feeling of xc tires

@niteryder50 4 года назад

Hmmm, maybe don't need second bike just different wheel set. Really interesting test. Interesting how you cannot run tyres low due to low volume and makes sketchy. Always pros and cons of tyres and they so important and often overlooked.

@leefunkera 4 года назад

You love hardtails and drive a MX-5. Subscribed :)

@hardtailparty 4 года назад

Hardtails and mx5s go hand in hand

@leefunkera 4 года назад

hardtail party yes! both flickable, reliable, and a hoot to ride without the need for speed. Awesome to see it with a bike rack too. No fun lost driving to the trails 🤙

@stevencole7331 4 года назад

I have Maxis ardents on my xc geometry hardtail . Now they are not a true xc tire and claim to be somewhere in the middle between trail and xc . They are the exo type so not all that light but they are fast but can be unpredictable in soft corners . So after a couple washouts on corners lately and they are wearing out I am going more aggressive and hope for more predictable traction . I going with the mountain king 2.3 in the back and 2.4 trail king up front which seems to me pretty aggressive for an xc style type bike . If I get better traction which instills more confidence than I will consider it a success and willing to loose some speed and climbing efficiency. I also live in a high desert rock environment of southern California . It is kind of like snowboarding on a bike . Kind of fun but a bit scary . So It will be interesting to see if I draw the same conclusions as you and more than likely I will and feel a bit safer on the bike with the more aggressive tires

@adamc5688 4 года назад

What do you think about this setup for XC racing? My local races start in September. I’m thinking of giving it a shot.

@Th3Gr33k 2 года назад

I'm waiting on some wheels that should save me 2lb. My original wheels (on an XC bike...) are a cheap Enduro set weighing 5.5lb, new set are 3.3lb. I can't find much on how this will feel. What would you expect? Nice video btw. Sounds like the change for me should be vast.

@refo1977 Год назад

Great review! I currently ride on my Banshee Xc-Trail Vittoria Barzo-Mezcal 29x2.35 tires, good grip plains very well and good traction climbing. Thinking of changing the fork from 150mm to 130mm. Did you try both configurations 150-130 mm? Which route feels best about flattening and climbing?

@gianttodd1 4 года назад

I don’t think it’s the tires that are making the ride easier,your cardio is getting better!!👍🏻👍🏻

@hardtailparty 4 года назад

I appreciate the vote of confidence, but it's definitely the wheels and tires in this case.

@nito_gocni5460 Год назад

Hello. I have the Ragley Big Al, love it! I also have a gravel bike, and wondered if putting lighter wheels and faster tyres on could close the gap between the Ragley and my gravel bike in terms of speed and efficiency over paved areas and hard pack? It would be nice to use the big Al in longer rides with mellow trails and road as well as commuting. I'm holding onto the gravel bike( giant revolt, 44mm tyres) as it's just way more efficient. TIA. Edit. Thinking of two wheelsets, one XC, one 30mm trail. Where I live there is terrain of every sort.

@luqman1994 4 года назад

Have you tried the nukeproof scout 290 and 275?

@juanpack8146 Год назад

I suggest WTB Bronson XC tire 👌

@earthzero7 2 года назад

You should try this setup with a set of BERD27 Inner wheels with 2.35 tires like the Barzo from Vittoria or some meatier Vittoria Mazzas or similar sized Maxxis tires along with the cushcore. I know you've tried the Atomik carbon rims and that might be a great combination if you got the XC 35 version built up with Berd spokes with 2.35 to 2.4 tires . It might change your opinion.

@hardtailparty 2 года назад

I'd love to try some berd wheels.

@BhBraaq 4 года назад

Been wondering if I should upgrade to carbon wheels on my enduro, this confirmed what my friends say. Biggest difference I can make for my bike's performance and feel.

@hardtailparty 4 года назад

See my video about whether carbon wheels are worth it.

@michiganstate149 4 года назад

I debated this with smaller rotors, lighter rims and hubs and super light Maxxis tires....then I decided that I'm never going to be that fast anyway, and fun is my #1 priority, so what would really be the point for me? For a lot of people though this would definitely be able to give you "2 bikes" with a simple swap

@bryherdie 4 года назад

Nice video, cool experiment! Now try the opposite and run your bigger tires on your XC bike, assuming they will fit.

@hardtailparty 4 года назад

I've done that before with plus tires. Tons more grip, slower on the climbs

@nito_gocni5460 11 месяцев назад

Question since watching. You mentioned how the tyres felt skitty due to having a lower contact point. Does having a slacker HTA make it harder to maintain traction? Usually a slacker HTA is accompanied by a tyre with plenty of grip which makes up for that. On a bike with a steep HTA your weight is over the wheel a little more meaning that even with a lower contact point you can in effect influence the amount of friction/weight over the front wheel?

@cliffsangelsphotography 4 года назад

Great review as usual. Can you review a Marin San Quentin 3? I'm looking to build a hardtail and I'd like your perspective on it.

@hardtailparty 4 года назад

I'll have one later on the summer. The stack is crazy low, which makes it ride awkward.

@eriksdodges853 4 года назад

About time ! Haha ... i just finished building mine Monday, rode yesterday... wow an awesome bike ! Very fast, jumps great too. Stack and reach feel just fine to me, using a 140mm pike fork. I could see body type (shorter arms) playing a big role in your feel of the bike. Steve, if you ever make it to the east coast of Virginia you're welcome to take it for a spin and do a review away from home !

@StreaminGreen 4 года назад

I own a San Quentin 2. Slack bike and quite playful imo! Can’t beat that price either :)

@nito_gocni5460 11 месяцев назад

Interesting as I have the big Al but have changed job, and no longer have my second vehicle to transport my bike so I have to pedal from my door to wherever meaning my riding style has changed to flow, small technical. I was considering selling my bike for a lightweight xc bike like the giant xtc.....still undecided whether to buy a new wheel set or just change bikes altogether

@paranoidandroid4270 4 года назад

Your videos make me miss Sedona! To be sure the lighter wheels feel better on the trail. I think there’s some confirmation bias (your expectation that the lighter wheels will have a positive impact affecting your ride impressions) but that’s inevitable unless you tested 3 or more bikes at once and didn’t know which one had the lighter wheels.

@hardtailparty 4 года назад

I've been riding for 25 years. I've ridden a lot of lighter wheels, so I have an idea of what it's going to feel like, just not on this bike.

@paranoidandroid4270 4 года назад

hardtail party Ok that makes sense. I really enjoy your channel. Have a great day.

@gr8fulride 4 года назад

I enjoyed the perspective on cush core / tire pressure. Thanks Steve. I got some racing Ralph's for my + bike . Currently running rekons. What pressure gauge are you using?

@hardtailparty 4 года назад

This one: amzn.to/2yUjDF6

@evr-mr3cp 4 года назад

I’m in Southeast AZ myself. I’m curious what jacket you’re wearing to keep the sun at bay?

@markhagopian3257 4 года назад

This is exactly what I've been saying for years. When is too big, burly, long, slack, heavy duty too much. If you need the strength it's one thing. But here in Michigan, we ride trails. We don't have big downhill runs. Although i wish we did. I drool over some of these modern bikes. Xc bikes aren't for me. Trail bikes are getting to aggressive for standard trails.

@jfkusa123 4 года назад

Yeah I agree, every year bikes get slacker with more travel. In a few years the yt izzo is going to have 150-160 travel. That’s what happened to the Capra and just about every other trail bike from brands.

@lonewolf30531 4 года назад

Have you reviewed the Trek Roscoe 8 hardtail? Thanks for content .

@hardtailparty 4 года назад

Not yet. Soon.

@TheNik604 4 года назад

Try Magic Mary, they are the best for most of the terrains .

@hardtailparty 4 года назад

Magic Marys would defeat the purpose of this experiment. I find very knobby tires to feel unsettled in the dry, loose terrain we have here. I'm a big fan of the assegai up front. I'd love a lightweight trail version of an assegai.

@JakeBuckeye 4 года назад

Different tools for different jobs for sure. I have a 17.3 pound hardtail and the thing absolutely flies. But the setup (including/especially the geo) means I don't take it on Bobsled or Zen or Gooseberry or anything like that. Really anywhere other than xc trails unless I swap wheels, but that only does so much. But my bigger bikes, like my Rallon, are overkill for most things, including just about everything in Park City. And I was really glad to have the light and efficient bike for when I rode White Rim in a day (and it's great for keeping up with the NICA kids). This is how I justify n+1 to my wife, and so far she has been accepting :) Hoping her acceptance translates into something like an RSD middlechild or Whyte 905 in the near future as I think one of those with a couple of wheelsets would be an ideal setup for most days, as you mentioned. Another great video--keep up the good work!

@JenkinsB 2 года назад

Great experiment. Wish I saw it before covid, $750 carbon wheel sets are now $1500...

@hardtailparty 2 года назад

Ican has $750 carbon wheelsets. I have a 6% off coupon for them. See my vid of my ican wheels for that discount code.

@wesleecyphers5707 4 года назад

What are you using to gauge tire pressure? Just going by feel? Also is a cassette considered rotational weight? Keep up the great videos!

@hardtailparty 4 года назад

I'm just going by feel. I'm pretty decent at telling tire pressure by feel. Cassettes are rotational weight when you're pedalling, but not when you're coasting. Since they're closest to the center of the wheel, they affect the effect less than a tire or rim. They're not generating much centrifugal force compared to tires and rims.

@wesleecyphers5707 4 года назад

Gotcha. Makes sense.

@GeoAnaGR 4 года назад

Cassette is rotational mass, but it's too close to the centre of the movement to create any considerable force. On the contrary on a FS bike, on the pivotal movement of the rear triangle against the front triangle, the parts hanging on the far edge of the rear triangle are over 40cm from the pivot point creating quite an effect on rear suspension movement, in case you were wondering why the cassette+ derailleur weight are considered for that case

@user-ht6em6po5u 4 года назад

Hello Steve. I love coming back to older videos. This makes me think, can I put E-wheels on my non-electric hardtail? They are cheaper and have 32 spokes. I don't care about the weight.

@hardtailparty 4 года назад

Yes

@user-ht6em6po5u 4 года назад

@@hardtailparty thank you as always!! one of the top bike reviewers on RU-vid if not the best

@Max-xl3ml 4 года назад

That it would be cool if there were xc bikes with aggressive geo. Especially with hardtails you can't really find any light short travel xc bikes or short travel bikes at all with slack geo.

@hardtailparty 4 года назад

Stay tuned... I have another fun experiment coming

@Max-xl3ml 4 года назад

hardtail party rad! Can't wait. This concept appeals to me for long miles on the front range of CO.

@brent_s 4 года назад

Perfect timing for this video. Picked up a Ripmo AF and the assegais are boat anchors for anything not downhill. Any suggestions for a fast rolling trail tire for 35mm rims? I like the idea of two sets of wheels one for trail days another for gravity

@hardtailparty 4 года назад

Depends on where you live

@brent_s 4 года назад

hardtail party Most of my riding is in the foothills of the Rocky Mountains (Rocky, rooted terrain)

@hardtailparty 4 года назад

Well, most fast rolling tires are going to suit a 25-30mm rim width. Most people who care about light, fast tires don't have 35mm rims. I love 35mm rims, but they aren't the best for xc. Most fast rolling tires max out at 2.35 wide. You can check out the new maxxis WT xc tires. I like the ikon in 2.35, but I wouldn't want to run it on anything wider than 30mm. With a 35mm inner, you're going to want something around the 2.5-2.6 range for them to have the proper profile. if you had 27mm rims, I'd recommend the ikon and something like an ardent race.

@JakeBuckeye 4 года назад

I second this--I really like the Ikon (and Ardent Race) for a fast rolling tire if 2.35 is enough for you (not on 35mm rims tho).

@brent_s 4 года назад

Thanks! I ordered a vittoria agarro in 2.6 that is supposed to be around 2.5 when on a 35mm rim. Looking forward to trying it out. Just discovered your wife’s channel as well. You guys rock!

@THOELL2737 4 года назад

This is a cool video would haven cool if you did 2 runs and timed it i have an extra set of wheel im going buy some cross country tires

@hardtailparty 4 года назад

Even then it wouldn't have been very scientific as fatigue and learning the trail set in.

@THOELL2737 4 года назад

@@hardtailparty probably but thanks nice video I going to grab som tires tomorrow

@dimc02 4 года назад

You’re like the Scotty Kilmer of MTB videos!Hows the profile of the 2.35 nobby nic on 25 mm wheel?

@hardtailparty 4 года назад

Profile is ok in this case.

@Monkey_slapping_keys 4 года назад

What tyre width did you run? A lot of xc riders seem to be going wider now as they get the benefits and they are considered faster overall.

@hardtailparty 4 года назад

See my previous video. 2.35 front, 2.25 rear. This is what I had on hand, so I decided to toss it on for the experiment.

@timpirtle3906 4 года назад

What trails were those? Everytime we have been to Sedona this year we have got our butts kicked with nothing but climbs

@hardtailparty 4 года назад

trails are in the video description. There are no shuttles in Sedona. You have to earn your descents.

@TrailFeatures 4 года назад

Now put drop bars on it. 😎

@hardtailparty 4 года назад

Not gunna happen. Even my wacky experiments have limits.

@bobte88 4 года назад

Cool experiment but do you think the cush core cancels out a lot of the weight savings from swapping to a carbon wheel?

@hardtailparty 4 года назад

No. The xc cush core is super light (150g). These tires and wheels are crazy light too. This is still over a pound lighter than my normal setup.

@hardtailparty 4 года назад

If I didn't have cush core, I wouldn't make it to the bottom of the trail and I'd end up getting a flat. The sidewall casings on these tires are paper thin, and won't hold up to this abuse without cushcore. The alternative would be to remove the cushcore and get a tire that weighs 200-300g more (cushcore weighs 150). So it's still a weight savings.

@bobte88 4 года назад

@@hardtailparty cool good to know thanks for the reply

@mtbmike9866 4 года назад

Nice experiment. Question, Aggressive tires on a traditional XC bike or XC tires on an Aggressive bike?

@hardtailparty 4 года назад

I like that way you think. You're going to like the upcoming videos.

@nathancouse3596 4 года назад

Strange you dont like it... I ride a steel frame kona honzo with a 120 fork and I ride flow arch wheels on it with 2.4 front and 2.3 rear and never complained about harshness.... but I also dont ride in Sedona, most of my trails are either muddy snowy or really loamy lol. I live in upstate ny!

@hardtailparty 4 года назад

apples and oranges really. For upstate NY I'd probably love this tire/wheel combo. Also, a stan's arch is going to be way softer riding than these enves.

@nathancouse3596 4 года назад

I am with you though on tire choice. I ride a dhf in front always, rolls way faster than a dhr and a assegi and in my opinion better grip than both as well. But change the rese up depending on what season or where I ride. I switch between a aggresor or ardent.

@deanemberley2333 4 года назад

Nathan Couse a DHF rolls Way faster? Please explain. . . Also you said it’s strange he doesn’t like it, yet like he said it’s an Apples to Bowling Balls comparison and you’ve never ridden Sedona. Please explain

@Eric-bh7jy 4 года назад

Would love to see this with 29” XC tires. I have 27.5+ and have considered a second set of 29” for San tan since it’s not rocky and more smooth/flow. Any suggestions?

@hardtailparty 4 года назад

these are 29" xc tires.

@JakeBuckeye 4 года назад

For what it's worth, I have a couple of bikes where I run a super light 29 setup (Stans Podiums at 1295 grams!!) for fast and flowy, and a 27.5+ setup (heavy Syncros) for fun. For my Spark, for example, I've won fast XC races with the Podiums, but then I've bombed Ahab on the same bike with 27.5+ Syncros. Just a totally different bike with the two wheelsets. I don't know San Tan, but I've been running a couple sets of the Podiums for a couple of years and they've been fantastic. My first ride on them was Bobsled in Salt Lake City, and I was super cautious on them given how light they are. Since then, they've survived plenty of trips on Bobsled, and they've survived my kid abusing them on NICA courses. If you fit within the weight limits, I'm very high on the Podiums. That said, the 27.5+ is way more fun when I'm out to ride just to ride. Hope that helps!

@Eric-bh7jy 4 года назад

hardtail party haha. I thought you just did 27.5”. I guess the screaming of my kids in the background muffled the sound. Lol

@hardtailparty 4 года назад

@@Eric-bh7jy I can understand that!

@tonyparkin3379 4 года назад

Was looking at " hunt cc trailwise". Apparently the lightest Ali wheels for $400.

@hardtailparty 4 года назад

Interesting. i'll see if I can demo a pair.

@tonyparkin3379 4 года назад

@@hardtailparty pinkbike reviewed them 1,834g a set for $400.

@hardtailparty 4 года назад

Did pinkbike review them, or did hunt make a press release that was featured on pinkbike? I couldn't find a pinkbike review at all, just marketing copy.

@tonyparkin3379 4 года назад

@@hardtailparty review was on 22/11/19 on pinkbike. Also www.mbr.co.uk reviewed then. Lightest Ali wheels (almost carbon range) on market.

@phoenixeasyrider6026 4 года назад

BTW was that regular cushcore or the new?

@hardtailparty 4 года назад

See my precious two videos

@navarro697 4 года назад

What's your favorite hardtail currently?

@hardtailparty 4 года назад

Depends. Currently it's the banshee paradox

@alifallah1954 4 года назад

Is cranks rotional mass too ? What else is ?

@hardtailparty 4 года назад

They're rotational mass when they're rotating. When you're coasting they're not.

@702cooks13 4 года назад

Hi there, what helmet are you using ?

@hardtailparty 4 года назад

Specialized ambush pro

@amydavis131 4 года назад

what jacket are you waring when you ride

@hardtailparty 4 года назад

It's a patagonia tropic comfort 2 sun hoody

@amydavis131 4 года назад

@@hardtailparty thanks I just liked it because it had the hood that can go over the helmet.

@rakewawrz5200 4 года назад

I believe the real reason why you're clearing obstacles better is because you brought yourself to a new level endurance with your 60 mile ride.

@hardtailparty 4 года назад

lol. I wish it were that easy.

@chunkylover54 4 года назад

as a fat guy those 24h rims freak me out. dont think ill ever ride carbon rms who know though

@hardtailparty 4 года назад

They freak me out too

@samvilla6290 4 года назад

So you know how most bikes have relatively steep effective seat tube angles but slack actual seat tube angles. What if it was the other way around so you had say a 73 degree effective seat tube angle but a 93 degree actual seat tube angle. So as your seat post goes up the seat tube angle increases putting you in a better pedaling position the higher your seat is and a position with your weight more centered for descending with the seat down. I know it sounds crazy but could it work and what would be the disadvantages of this.

@hardtailparty 4 года назад

Effective seat angle is really all that matters.

@samvilla6290 4 года назад

What I’m saying is you put the start of the seat tube well behind the bottom bracket and then put the seat tube at such and angle that the effective seat tube angle increases as the seat post extends. A diagram would explain it better

@hardtailparty 4 года назад

Most bikes have a slacker effective seat tube angle than their actual seat tube angle. They claim the "actual" so it looks steeper on paper. I understand what you're saying. In the end, the effective seat tube is the only measurement that matters, since you're only using it when it's up and you're climbing. When you drop it out of the way, the seat angle doesn't matter at all since you're not sitting. There is a point where too steep of a seat angle becomes a bad thing, but very few bikes seem to be approaching this limit.