I love the way Alex's side kicks have gotten more and more weird over the years. It started with Pavel who looked 90% normal, just like he'd taken 1 too many valium, then the young lad with the long hair and liking for clothes made from silver tape, then the kid with the wonky eyes, and no these 2, the beret wearing lad with the thyroid issues, and yer man Zod here in this video. I know I'm missing some, like the mechanic guy, but he's pretty normal, the word normal here being relative.
A shame the girls aren't in more vids. I think Sus is awesome, he is like a fearless lion too and nearly crossed the line swimming in a pool of contaminated standing water, loved it when he nuked the ukulele hehehehehehehe
What happened with Pavel(or Pasha)? Last video I remember with him is when they were riding their bicycles showing their torn from the war town. Why they'd split?
@@dodgydruid I think Dima is the smart quiet one of the bunch, I also liked watching Anton in the Chernobyl Flat cleaning and painting repairs. Good bunch of guys!
The reactions you see are proportional to how charged the batteries were when they encountered the thermal event. If the battery is nearly dead there will be very little reaction. However, if you do this with fully charged batteries you will get the most reaction. Edit: Also, to extinguish a battery fire, a fire extinguisher is nearly useless. If you want to put it out, pour sand or dirt on it to extinguish. When we do repairs on devices with batteries like those, we have buckets of sand in case of any thermal events. Water does not put out chemical fires.
@@Linus-nq2op - it's not the lithium that is burning. It's a very mild lithium salt solution. The liquid and insulating layers are what is burning, however that's only the reaction of those materials to the intense heat. The heat is simply the uncontrolled discharge of an absolute shitload of energy. So it's more like an electrical fire (welding) than a chemical fire.
Water will help remove heat from the batteries and stop the remaining unexploded cells from exploding, problem is you need a lot of water to do this. As seen when they poured water on it the explosions stop for a short time but then it heats up again because there is just too much heat remaining and then more batteries explode
it is irrelevant with batteries, as it is not pure, elemental lithium. there is so little lithium in the battery water works perfectly it cools. and stops the reaction. It just was not enough. it needs to be doused and flooded not sprikeled.
It’s not pure lithium in the batteries and it’s plated only few types of batteries have lithium metal in them (energizer ultimate lithium, lithium Button cells, etc.) but lithium doesn’t explode in water it more fizzles and ignites, sodium, and down on the periodic table will react explosively with water.
I Cuba we've had many accidents when lithium batteries on electric motorcycles have exploded, mostly during charge times, full houses have been set on fire and destroyes, plus people have been badly injured and some even died on the process, pretty dangerous!!
The BMS is not meant to prevent explosion from impact! It protects from explosion while charging, though it's not a good idea to rely on it: you need a proper charge controller as well. Crazy as you are, you might want to try to overcharge a pack burning the BMS to see how it fails!
Well, according to my 12 yr old son, the dim hit Antonio in the head and now they are not friends 🤗🍿 I don't know but I wish they make up because they are the best.
@@thanoxTOTTS antoine is one of my favs too but he does whine. And complain about everything lol still miss him tho been wondering where he is the guy with a scarf I don't really like hes kinda bizarre and childish
These episodes are getting hard to watch. Two things that made this channel what it was even before Anton was even on the channel. 1. Doing crazy backyard experiments with friends and building contraptions. 2. Pripyat trips were awesome when you were sneaking around and showing the people of Chernobyl and fixing up Pripyat city like the apartment you painted. Now it feels like you are trying to combine the backyard experiments with the adventures to Chernobyl. I would suggest going back to separating the two again. Even without Anton I will watch like I did before he was onscreen. No neck makes things uncomfortable with his actions and I question his mental capabilities.
IKR, I've been watching Alex for years, from when they were connecting capacitors to the mains electricity, but I just realised I hadn't watched one of their videos for ages, despite being subbed, so today I have unsubbed. The trip to India was brilliant, I haven't really watched them since that.
In the trip to India they blew up a 55 gallon drum of caustic chemical sending it several stories in the air with many civilian onlookers and no ambulance in 100 miles. How do you have a problem with this and praise that
As someone who knew that fire was not going to be put out by any of the means they had at their disposal, I am so grateful to have professionals like them out there
At that point battery temps would be so high they are already in thermal runaway. A powder extinguisher is probably the least effective on taking away heat!
Please do an interview to "Comrade", I think this is his nickname - I mean, the guy with long hair. I see he's concealing scars under his neck and have scars on his hand. Maybe he have a very interesting story to tell - and this can help understand his character. Please people, respect him. He's "acting" for the channel but I think he's a nice guy with a very hard story to tell.
For all the times that Kamrad has annoyed me, chain saw a raft and then sink the chain saw in water, wearing bright orange while in Exclusion Zone. Today, I actually got satisfaction seeing Kamrad being scared when the lithium batteries exploded! It still does not forgive Kamrad for his prior stupidities in Exclusion Zone. He's still an immense liability to Alex and Sus with his clownish antics. Kamrad is type who would find working security cameras and go up to them sticking his tongue out like an idiot.
This is a great video to show that you can't just put out a lithium battery fire. It looked like they were using a Class D extinguisher, but you need more than just the one, and you need to know how to properly use it. You can't use water to put out a lithium fire, it will only cool it temporarily. It needs to be smothered. I've heard that some jurisdictions in the US will call in a dump truck of fill dirt in a Tesla fire since the car is a loss anyway.
Wow ! Lithium batteries 🔋 explosions are extremely dangerous ☣️☢️⚠️when punctured , shorted or even slightly compromised . There’s really no way to extinguish them using water 💦 or a fire extinguisher as they will keep shorting from being wet until all cells are completely self destroyed . Stay safe .🤗
My father is a firefighter and I therefore know that lithium batteries cannot be extinguished, the fire brigade has a special tank that is filled with water into which an electric car can be immersed for several days. a fire in a tunnel would have devastating consequences and it is not unlikely that you will be burned alive in an electric car after a minor accident that you would have survived in a normal car without problems…
Classic fire extinguishers, with foam or water, don't work on lithium battery fires. The only way to extinguish a lithium battery is to flood the battery with water. You should document on your projects more...
@@vanessaruiz4705 Maybe you're right, they dramatized the situation a little. In any case, they should explain why it didn't work and what's the proper way to extinguish lithium battery fires. The video could also be informative, not only monetization.
I adore you guys 💕 just keep up the positive ions and make up for the fans, of course we miss the old crew but still unite the old with the new people and keep making good content.
Can't believe you were bathing your ol' noggins with smoke from plastics... cyanide is produced when burning most plastics and not a good thing without a mask. Good to see Max Wallski is a little less manic today, waves to all from darkest Dorset :D
Even the fire services just let lithium battery fires burn, you cannot put them out easily, and DEFINITELY don't put water on Lithium batteries, cos, much like sodium or potassium, lithium goes boom with water on it...
This is incorrect. Water is actually the only thing that does work to any real degree. It's a common misconception. Please be aware lithium ion batteries don't contain elemental lithium.
The professionals moved the car 1 foot away from danger, these guys are good, well great comedians, love your show. I am definitely watching your videos now. Great stuff. I believe your video was a 100% success, those watching definitely will know the dangers these batteries can cause. Imagine now a car battery or a bus or truck or even a train. Amazing stuff.
a fire extinguisher is not meant to be turned upside down at all. there is a pipe inside that sucks the powder from the bottom, if you flip it upside down you just release all the gas and the powder remains inside.
""Fun-fact"" : Some electric cars runs on big 18650 battery packs ... and when the batteries are heavily damaged they don't only catch on fire but they also continue to burn, beacause all the batteries are all one next to each other. And a single damaged unit that catches on fire can destroy all the other batteries in sequence and burn down the entire car.
Explosive fun but very dangerous batteries indeed. Sorry about your GoPro. Thanks for sharing the fun but also the need to be very careful with these batteries
Now imagine a 500kg battery from a Tesla car... terrifying. Also, love how they left the extinguisher right next to where the fire would be. Definitely professionals! (not that it helps much with lithium..)
This is genuinely good information. Basically 18650 li ion cells in a pack will explode one by one from the heat of another cell. So if one cell is punctured while fully charged the whole pack is gone
If an electric car battery starts burning (happens more often than you might think) the fire brigade usually just let it burn out. Water will not extinguish a lithium fire but if you pour *lots* of water on it, it will at least dissipate some heat.
The fire brigade here in super woke country had to procure special water tanks to store burning electric cars in when they have caught fire. It is a matter of time when the omnipresent arsonists here catch a Tesla - or the car next to it close enough to spread the fire. If this happens in an underground car park the building above might suffer structural damage.
Hate to admit but I had a battery I built without enough education first about this same size for an eBike go off in my house, was pretty scary waking up to that thing blowing up in showers of sparks like when they vented the flames on this one. House burned down in about 2 minutes, good thing home insurance exists though. Was 3 years ago and still trying to get back to where I was in terms of projects I had to work on. Cool video though, just saying you really DONT want this to go off in the same place you sleep at night. Terrifying. :c
We can send you a Tesla car battery from here in USA so you can perform these great tests on it as well lol! By the way, I was going to replace the lithium cells on my drone battery before seeing this great video. Thank you for possibly saving my life!
I think actually yes. when he shows his hand at 14:42 It seems like it's having burn scars. I think he burned once, and thats why he is covering his neck and chin which are having burning scars.
The best thing to do with a lithium battery fire is put a heavy cloth of some sort and cover it over it not letting air into it, and leave it covered for 24 hours .. this is how the fire services around the world are now tackling all these electric car fires.. you can look it up if u don't trust me but I'm telling you guys something that's 100% new technology the fire services are using.bcoz these kind of batteries are hard to extinguish... Great video, you guys are very smart and I like that.. I want to visit Russia and hang out with u crazy guys! 🤙🏼
There is no good way to put out a battery fire. If you put it out with an extinguisher, it will not stop the internal reaction that causes the heat, and it will reignite. If you put it out with water, you will short out the cells and cause more of them to explode. The only thing you can do is stand back and try to keep the fire from spreading while you wait for it to burn out.
@@bogwitchsophie yep indeed... I've seen some phone batteries which were exploded. It's quite the same effect... I wouldn't puncture it myself... Way too risky.
A chemical extinguisher is pointless, since it's not a chemical reaction. The heat is caused by an electrical short circuit, kind of like an arc welder or plasma cutter. Lithium has nothing to do with it - the fire is here is simply the materials of the battery getting hot and melting then catching alight.
Fire extinguishers do not help at all in case of a battery fire! The fire brigade put burning electric cars into a container, filled with water, and then wait days or more. I am happy, the two of you were not hurt, wounded or severely burnt during these very dangerous experiments.
When they demonstrated the "Radiascan" product they want us to buy, they were happily working with three devices all of which contained lithium or sulfate batteries. So I guess what they have shown us is you should not hammer nails into batteries. It's like putting a lit match in a can of petrol. Same result.
Part of the problem is that Lithium reacts to water and liquids so even if you get it soaked it will keep burning. Getting it cooled off is the best thing you can do.
@Neb6 - The danger of these batteries is the "energy density" - in other words, the massive amount of power that they can store. If these is a fault, a huge electrical current flows through the battery and that causes heating and sometimes fire. It's not a lithium fire... it's an electrical fire. Until the energy is depleted, the electrical arcing will continue. Since the batteries are made up of numerous small cells, a fault in one cell can cause overheating and failure of adjacent cells. Once it starts, a chain reaction can occur. It is possible to weld under water with similar amounts of current as can be stored in one or two "power-type" 18650 battery cells. People make spot welders with the pouch cells used in RC hobby vehicles. A dead-flat lithium battery won't burn for very long, if you can get it alight.
This is incorrect as there is no elemental lithium, plus lithium doesn't actually make up much of the battery. The issue is a massive amount of stored chemical energy. The fire is a runaway chemical reaction that doesn't need air to keep going. Water works, but you need insane amounts, preferably fully submerging it. Even then, it doesn't stop the reaction, of slows it down and takes the heat out of it. Even more effective is extremely cold brine. Brine can stay liquid at around - 20C and it also helps discharge the battery. It's been demonstrated to be more effective with EV fires.
You can't put out an electric fire with any kind of extinguisher! The fire is a manifestation of the energy being released from inside the battery. When you ruptured it, containment was lost, and the energy exploded out from the battery. There is nothing you can do except to wait until all that energy completely depletes.
oh poor fools, lithium fires are notorious for being incredibly difficult to put out, water reacts with lithium creating heat and fire and you need a specialized extinguisher for it, in order to truly stop a lithium fire without the specialized extinguisher, you need to fully submerge it in water for atleast 3 days.
Fire extinguishers generally won't help in this case as the burning stuffs contain raw alkaline metal. Those elements are so reactive that it can easily stuff electrons into CO2 molecules yet still releasing a ton of heat to keep the reaction going. Oh and don't put water on it. You forgot that alkaline metal reacts with water explosively, didn't you?
Won't work. Nothing works other than totally submerging it in water and waiting for the reaction to run its course. This is because the chemicals create a fire that has it's own oxygen.
The only way to put out a battery fire short of waiting for it to burn itself down is water immersion to take the remaining "good" cells below thermal runaway temperature. Current battery tech generates its own oxygen when its electrolyte decomposes and cannot be put out any other way. If any surviving cells got damaged, they may enter thermal runaway at any time. A damaged battery pack cannot be considered safe until it is either destroyed or dunked into a salt brine to fully discharge whatever may be left.
There is no guaranteed safe way to extinguish lithium battery fires. The first thing you should do is move it to a safe location where it hopefully can't hurt anyone, then just let it burn until all the energy has gone. Focus on preventing other things in the area from burning. If there are some cells in the pack that did not burn, they are already damaged but still contain a lot of energy, so they should be burned in a safe and controlled environment before disposing.
These videos have been recorded long time ago. They are now uploading them to their english channel. They are not able to leave no neck at home this time.
This video was released a month ago) As we promised, we have gradually reduced the difference between Russian and English channels. And we are still working to further reduce this difference.
@@kreosann some viewers are complaining about the absence of Anton. Is the current situation between Ukraine and Russia the main reason he isn't present in the videos? I mean, tensions between the two countries are bizarre. I think by giving some form of info, it will clear most of the negative comments.
You know I feel like you're being paranoid moving the car but I can actually see you're right this time on this video you are absolutely right on everything I'm proud of you I'm talking about the guy that blue bandana a long-hair I'm proud of that guy he's actually doing the right thing wow he's a different person he should stay this person
This was sooooo ridiculous. People don't go around holding phones up to their faces and stabbing holes through the phone. Also people don't hold battery power packs and stab holes through them either.
you used the fire extingiusher wrong you have too keep it upright not upside down since there is a pipe going down and the pressurized co2 gasses push the powerd upward through the pipe
Sands. Always sands. It's the best fire extinguisher which should be used on most metal fires, as well as to prevent the secondary fire (ie. grass fire), as you found out the hard way that regular fire extinguisher is totally useless as the Anode electrode already provide Oxygen, and there is already serious short circuit occuring so it simply just keep the fire going, thus the necessity to have a sand bag handy to control the scenario safely especially if you have the need to scratch the pyromaniac itch. Plus, Lithium reacts super explosively with water, so it will obviously light on fire, so again, liquid fire extinguisher is completely useless, so are most solid fire extinguishers, you need special one with Copper compounds to encase the whole thing in Copper ceramics to seal it off so it doesn't pose too much problem, with it also removing the heat from the source of fire. They're unfortunately hard to find nowadays due to toxicity of those special metal fire extinguisher powders.
You guys are the real "Crazy Russian Hackers"! The lithium metal reacts with water, and even with water just in the air. When you put water on the battery, that can actually cause the reaction with the metal to get hot and make the fire keep going. There are some fire extinguishers rated for electrical fires.
Fail comment is fail. There isn't any lithium metal to react with water. This is not a chemical reaction, it's an electrical arc from the short circuit and uncontrolled release of electrical energy. The plastic and electrolyte smoking and catching fire is a BYPRODUCT of the heat from the electricity. A fire extinguisher CANNOT "extinguish" an electrical fire - you have to prevent the short circuit (arc) from occurring. Fire extinguishers that are "rated for electrical fires" are simply using a non-conductive spray or gas, so that the electricity doesn't come from the fire to the operator and electrocute them.
