Exactly! That’s what I think the outcome would be. We’d all just save up for a good PC and move on from consoles. It’s disappointing Sony want that much money for a pro and then expect you to buy a disc reader separately for another £100. Not sure who they think had this sort of money to blow lol
@@GamerofOldAs soon as I saw the ps5 pro announcement I decided then and there that I'm switching to pc by next gen. I've always been envious of pc gamers since a kid (mostly due to mods and library selection), but now as an adult the practical use of a pc is too attractive even outside of gaming. All I needed was a financial incentive.
@@therealjaystone2344 But it is the thing that SEPERATES consoles from PC gaming. What's the difference if they take away the ability to physically buy/collect their games? A console then just becomes a cheap bad computer. and who wants that? There will be no incentive to buy consoles anymore. It is like they are eating their own market....
@@stanettiels7367 completely agree! I’d hold onto what you can because it’s definitely not going to be an option one day. Plus it’s literally an investment if you get it now. It’s a physical product of value. Once it goes digital those days are gone :(
As much as I support physical media I can't help but prefer my digital library. I was never forced to get games digitally, it just happened naturally. I remember being stoked when the xbox 360 marketplace dropped as a kid, I honestly can't remember a game that I bought physically since then that I didn't eventually replace with a digital copy. Even all of my classic consoles have whatever mod I need to store the entire game's library on a hard drive, which has saved me what would equate to thousands upon thousands if it were all physical. In the case of tv/movies, I prefer having dvds because it saves me tons on streaming. But in the case of gaming, my only criticism is that PC has been a fully digital medium for what feels like 20 years now without any real criticism towards the change, and imo we aren't far off from consoles needing to compete with pc to sustain relevance (ps5 pro level pricing, the growing popularity of the steam deck, consumer trust transitioning from AAA to indie)
Imagine a world where you got a free digital download of the game with every disc purchase? Or where you paid much less for the digital version because you don't own the license and Sony can kick you out of your account at anytime and bye bye digital game library?
@@latingringo89 I’m imagining it right now but sadly I doubt we will ever see it :( it’s gone the other way actually. I miss getting the game with a map and guide etc. all for $40 too! Now we get a digital game which comes with an outfit for your in game character for $100 lol
Yep same here as well. I own physically alot of consoles since the day's of super nintendo and so many game's over the year's. I'm pretty satisfied now i game on playstation 5 and the switch and it seems that's where I would have to jump off the train. One's it becomes a full digital and all gaming company's go full digital only that's where I take my leave and say goodbye. I've been gaming for 34 year's and that's pretty much good for me unfortunately every good thing must come to a end. I did truly enjoyed these gaming with my friends and family relatives for a long time and the game's. for the new generation of kids playing on these newer consoles or future consoles or pc I hope this is what you wanted and dreamed about. A all digital only game world sounds crazy to me and insane. Now California law will require online stores to disclose you are purchasing licenses for digital games, movies, music, and ebooks, not owning them. Wow we already know this foray year's but now it's really going to show right in front of your faces. I love owning my physical game's most ps4 and ps5 game's have a 1.0 version that works right of the box from beginning to end same switch game's. You don't even have to update them unless you want to. However some game's are down right broken and some need a online connection. For example the division 1&2 and destiny 1&2 and even the newer call of duty game's like black ops 4 and newer cods you can't even play single player offline without a internet connection you see how bad that is. When those servers shutdown and it will that's it like look what they did to your warzone you can't even transfer your old purchases from the old cod warzone to the new one. They really bend you over and you fans just took it lol. Now I don't know if it's true that's what I heard.
I've been a pc gamer for a long time now and digital only has been mostly the only option on pc for some time now so I'm used to this idea. But I also own a ps5 and when I bought it I got the disc version, I still like to buy physical copies of my games on console and I still like to buy Dvds and blu-rays and watch them on my console. That may be an old way of doing stuff but streaming is far from perfect and owning your games is a big plus if you in many ways if you ask me many of those ways you pointed out. So yeah I don't like the idea of a truly digital world only, physical games (and other stuff) have their place in this world and that place should be preserved.
Do you think it will Be? I can’t see it being around forever just because of the changes we are seeing now. Games going 100% digital. It’s interesting to see it happen over time but you can’t deny the convenience. I just like having the physical copies just to have them. Would be nice to keep both options open though. I guess we shall see!
@@AVVGaming1Won’t happen. Well, not to say it won’t happen but it can’t happen. It would mean the end of console gaming. The reasons why people accept digital on PC or with their music or movies are completely different from consoles and they are reasons that the consumers themselves shifted themselves into, not the publishers
@@AVVGaming1Those reasons being people shifted themselves to not owning their media with the rise of sailing the high seas with CDR and DVDR starting with music and movies. It wasn’t a shift brought on by publishers. PC is a very different ecosystem from console. The reason PC gamers are comfortable is because they have more than 1 place to get their games, be that soaking the high seas or multiple different storefronts. They can also backup those games themselves. None of this is possible on a console where you can lose your entire library if you’re banned for what ever reason they decide. There are no other storefronts. There is no way to backup the games yourself. You are entirely at the mercy of the publisher.
@@AVVGaming1 I'm not sure if it will be around forever, I hope it will but I'm not sure. However I think rickybobby made some good points I think physical on consoles is still popular so it may survive there. But on the other hand I'm thinking if that is the case why would Sony make a console with no disc option at all, to test the waters maybe? I guess we won't know for sure what way the wind blows until we see what Microsoft will do with the X-box, if they go digital only then we have our answer. Until then only time will tell.
I will buy physical until i cant. Digital and physical should always be both options. And i personally think there should be laws around digital where they cant take it away. I dont like separate disc drive requires internet to setup. People willingly giving up their rights is wild. If these companies worded it as licensing for $70 vs buying for digital games i feel those people who say it’s the future will sing a different tune. Digital only puts power in store’s hands and you see sony increasing old games price. A lot of games do start digital only but get a physical later so im okay as long as games get physical at all
I agree with you but the ship has already sailed. The moment consoles became connected to the internet and discs started requiring patches/internet downloads, you no longer own the physical copy. They can patch the consoles to not read the disc or prevent any necessary patches/internet downloads to brick the game from running anymore. Or send a new patch to just brick the game. They have many tools at their disposal to make the disc unplayable now remotely. And if they wanted to pull a specific game from the market, they can just patch the console itself to no longer read that specific game.
I like physical discs. The ps5 disc version will be the last game system I buy. It's unfortunate that physical media is dying. People don't know what they have until it's gone and once physical media is completely dead, people will dislike it.
Why rent a game for $70 when you can own a game for $70? If I can get a $20 game for $5 digital I will opt for the digital but if i have to pay 25+ give me the physical copy. I will hate the day that they opt to go digital only
@@slapshotjack9806 because no matter what happens even if they take the digital store away or your account gets hacked whatever you may lose your progress but at least you still have the game to play. Pt should have been the wake up call that they can do whatever they want with a digital download
Lets play a game; pull the internet cord out of your console and lets see what games you still can play.... Smart gamers buy physical! Dumb gamers buy digital.
The true threat to physical games is the gaming industry itself. While some gamers do accept and embrace digital media, Gaming companies are the ones that truly want an all digital future, not gamers. Subscription services is a scam to continuously milk people of money, so instead of paying one payment of X amount of dollars and be able to enjoy your favorite game for decades, you now have to pay a monthly/yearly payment forever to play your favorite game, which could potentially be taken from you if these companies want to take the game of the platforms service. I love gaming, I've been doing it for over 30 years and always saw myself gaming forever, but I am preparing myself to let go of this hobby.
Digital games will most likely never be cheaper than physical copies and they won’t be cheaper when physical is no more. But I will stop buying so there is that.
Yeah it’d change how we approach gaming overall. I like the option and think it should always be there. If you exclude it, then a lot of people will just switch to Pc I reckon
Thank you! We are being cornered by these companies. "This is the only way to play video games!" is what they are saying towards digital only. Yet I am firm that I don't want to move towards digital. So what happens? This divide in the gaming community. One side pro physical and another pro digital. When did we get so comfortable not owning what we buy?
Correct, even DVD bluray was always selling so well. But it was companies plot to not even support the physical cause they want ALL PROFIT and CONTROL.
I grew up with physical media, I am a 31 year old woman, I have quite a bit of game retro collection with my husband, however lately we have switched to mainly PC and Switch. We have a PS5, but after the Pro was announced, we talked and just wanted to stay with PC and Nintendo. Honestly we still like physical but if our house burned down all the physical games we would lose, and we would lose our computers, but all the digital games could be downloaded again. So there is pro and cons to both. Plus if Steam goes anti consumer and deletes a game that is even on our hard drive, if it's retro/classic enough we can emulate it if we wanted to play it so much. The main problem is dedicated systems/consoles. They are becoming more obsolete, and if they really get rid of physical media, there is no reason for them. Just switch to PC.
Exactly! And I think that’s how things would turn if they stopped accepting discs. We’d all just go and save up for a good PC. It makes more sense and steam has more variety and better deals too. As far as the switch goes, that console is unreal! I buy all my games physical for the switch but that’s because my wife also has a switch and we can swap and play games together. I’m playing xenoblade chronicles 3 now and it’s outstanding. Honestly I’m gonna do a video about the switch because I think it’s one of the best consoles ever. Witcher 3, RDR, KCD, Persona 5, 4, Skyrim, BOTW, TOTK, smash bros, Mario kart, just mental selection !
You could just as easily lose those digital games. Someone else controls those servers and has the power to remove the content at a moments notice. Or rather no notice at all. In the end many would just resort to buying more expensive storage to make sure they keep their games
@@jefferytillis8309 That's an easy choice, piracy is the great equalizer and DRM is vanquished again and again. That's the relationship between company and consumer. If they won't satisfy, we won't spend. They keep making slop, we stop buying it, they raise console prices, we buy PCs, they misshandle a game, we mod it to be better, they take away access, we pirate and emulate. Internet nerds are so brilliant at circumvention that sometimes I wonder what we need AAA for. Whether it's remastering or remaking games from scratch. Exploiting hardware through itterative jailbreaking. Rebuilding, privatizing, or loopholing servers after shutdowns such as the xbox 360 marketplace, the crew, or the pretendo network. Creating extensive expansions through modding and romhacking. Forming dev teams that take advantage of industry standard engines like UE. Or even stepping past troublesome emulation to port exclusives directly to pc through the process of decompilation as seen with SM64, Ocarina of time, and hopefully soon, Bloodborne. In an anti-consumerist era, gamers have more insentive by the day to switch to Pc, and on PC, thanks to these few geek geniuses, gaming is dang near open source.
The main issue is I don't want to spend $70+ on a game that I don't own. That amount, right now anyway, usually gets me a disc, case, some nice artwork, and maybe a little goodie inside like a keychain/art cards. Digital offers nothing but air. So far this year I have pre-ordered three physical games, wish I could afford more to support physical game releases! So many people tell me "it takes up to much space!" and I'm like "but you have no control over what you buy". What if you hit a rough patch and need some extra money? A digital game isn't exactly going to help you but having a physical game to sell online will. Add to the fact if you don't like a digital game you can't return it and get your money back, you are stuck with it forevermore! 🤧
You don't own most of the physical games these days either. Still gotta download the bulk of, if not the entire game even with a disc. If there is a version of the game on the disc, it's the busted, borderline unplayable version with no day one patch. So without the internet and access to these digital storefronts, the disc is useless anyway.
With the world collectively moving towards minimalism and making the maximum out of progressively limited space, it was only a matter of time. This pet theory isn't probably as far-fetched as it sounds!
Convenience as well. That’s what gets us in the end! Convenience of fast food got us good. Convenience catches us and it will probably get us here too lol. Ps5 pro is certainly a move in that direction and Xbox been pushing hard to get game pass on pc so they know something is coming
The problem right now is that storage is still required to play top tier games. Doesn't matter if it's a Blu-ray disc or the more expensive internal drive. Streaming the top games would take tremendous bandwidth that's just not there. For me , if I can't get a physical copy, I'm not buying. Leaves too much power in the hand of the owner of the servers. One minute you own a game, the next minute you don't. It's all up to those that control the storage. I see it as no different than government trying to force you to public transportation. When did we start accepting that others should have control of the products we purchased?
@@jefferytillis8309 you're absolutely right but as AVV said we are nearing the end of life on physical copies for all the reasons he mentioned in cost cutting and convenience. If the companies do end up keeping physical copies for people like you who refuse to digitise entirely, then it will be those overpriced collector's edition discs which will make you pay a premium for the same game and basically include a markup on the price for printing and shipping :P
@@debopamroy56Even those aren't safe. Some collector editions now come with an empty steelbook and a download code instead of a disc. It's completely idiotic.
Haha I think that is generally what will happen! I don’t think Sony are thinking this through. Like someone else said, if everything goes digital, then we would all be better just getting a good pc!
I think games should go all digital because I want companies to be able to fuck over my purchases and your purchases and everyone's purchases and you're going to like it 🤓
I will never go all digital for a console. I don't like it for pc, but have adapted, but so far my old games have not required specific hardware to play them. Console games will lose a lot of business going digital only.
Totally agree! I think if Xbox and ps announced the next consoles were digital only, most people would take the money they’d spend on them and invest in a gaming PC anyway. It’s crazy these companies don’t think about that. I think Microsoft is thinking about that though because they have been getting game pass on Pc. They must know something is coming.
Yes, physical media is being killed off, but not by gamers. Side note: the value of physical games is going to sky rocket HOLD ONTO YOUR PHYSICAL GAMES.
This is great advice! It’s crazy because the value starts at $60 then drops down to almost nothing after a few years, then it just bounces right up! Incredible really
Let’s face it the majority of new gen gamers are lazy as hell and would rather download games rather than physically go somewhere to buy a game or wait and get it delivered from amazon…for me unless its free i never do downloadable games…i will buy physical games until i cant play anymore…
A lot of discs nowadays dont even contain the game you buy. it still just goes to the store to download it. The real question is how you get the data. If i buy a digital but drm free version of skyrim on GOG, i own it much more concretely than a disc version on the PS5 that still requires a bunch of downloads from the PS store (not sure exactly what the drm for skyrim specifically is on PS, but you get my point). Regardless of the fact that the GOG version is digital, i can save or copy the installer to whatever storage form i feel is best and never have to rely on the digital storefront again, even if the game were to lose a license or get delisted.
I bought calisto protocol for ps4 rihht and this game could not run. It was a mess. Couldn’t handle it, shaky, lagged, literally unplayable. Patch required day 1, 30GB. Saved the game. But if I didn’t have the internet and update the game would be unplayable. It has unfortunately become a necessity but it’s poor from game developers to release these games so unfinished in the first place! Great point though! Thanks for commenting!
It depends on the game. There are many games that are fully on the disc. Large triple A games usually have/need patches but some is the devs fault. I watch a channel called N Game Arts for quality games that are fully on the disc.
Yeah as long as it's DRM free I don't think there is much of an issue with digital only. If the market is heading that way because people are buying less and less physical games, it's fair enough.
It is stupid to get rid a physical games. Gaming systems are targeting the rich. Not everyone has unlimited data. An some of those games use a lot of data To play and download. They real cutting off a source of revenue. An I not pay for games to just rent it. Waste of my money.
I live in the midwest and there is no internet service where I live that has unlimited data. If everything was streaming idk if I would even have enough internet to be able to play video games.
thats why im collecting physical copies now for my retirement. remember, "you'll own nothing and be happy" future will be a rental economy. applications are now monthly/annual subscription. there will be no such thing as perpetual license anymore. games will be next. Apple is already doing it you can only play games if you rent digitally.
I think that’s what everyone is saying. If physicals games no longer exist, everybody will just move over to Pc. It’s crazy because the consoles are doing it to themselves! Xbox had a plan for PC players whereas Ps doesn’t do I’m not sure why they did this lol. Selling a disc extension for £100+ is really cheeky in my opinion lol
Really? Can’t believe that type of stuff still happens to billion dollar companies but it definitely coincides with the point of the value of physical games!
digital games are not cheaper,in fact they're the opposite,you get less for more money. also always online and censorship are bad,there are no positives for digital over physical
When these companies get rid of physical game discs entirely, it will just open a market for new developers/companies for gamers who strictly want physical media games and provides an avenue for more creative and enjoyable gaming titles to be born for us dedicated console gamers. Essentially becoming a win-win for indie developers and studios. If there is a will, there is a way to overcome this problem.
That depends on whether Sony/Microsoft will allow games to be loaded via disc in the first place. Even if they allow you to connect an external drive they may not allow you to load games from it. Especially if you need an internet connection which may be used to block any game loaded from a disk.
When i can not collect proper physical game copies with a playable build anymore, I'll just re-switch to PC again. There i can at least download a crack for most games that i care about to "own" them. I already get games on PC that are either online only or have an incomplete build on disc, even though they are not a lot.
Physical copies are dieing because idiots are paying the same, if not more, for digital copies. Remember this, physical copies cost developers money to produce and ship, whereas digital does not.
Only PC media I’m gonna invest into is GoG. The only one who most closely respects you. It’d be even better if on PC you could trade, lend, borrow and sell your license keys once you’re done with them. Essentially a 3rd party license trading system that gives you your property rights back. Either that or give us back offline working physical media for PC games using keys. We will get it back regardless if the internet is taken down by the Russians. For consoles I only support physical media for the Nintendo Switch and some ps5 games that are content complete (very rare now on PlayStation; Nintendo is usually better for this). If they go full digital, I’m done with consoles completely. They will lose all value to me.
Buying digitally means you rent a license 🪪. In the end thr license expires and you lose your rented game . Secondly a promise was made by going digitally prices would go down. It never happened. Corporate greed at it's finest by cutting out the middle man.
The disadvantages of digital like storage space and restrictions to reselling and refunding are so obvious and overshadows the positives like not having to worry about shelf space. Heck, I myself loved digital until I realized how annoying it was to have barely any space on my consoles and that I couldn’t get my money back. How is digital winning when the negatives are so obvious and deal-breaking?
When CDs replaced LPs, they said prices would go down once they were able to reduce the defect rate. They never did. Then when LPs replaced CDs again, prices went up another 40% for 100+ year old technology.
While I will always prefer physical over digital (and will pay full price for physical), I will only buy digital when it is on sale and dirt cheap (under $20), as my view is if software companies only want me to 'rent' their games, then they are only worth a rental price. I refuse to pay full price for any digital game, and there is plenty to play that I can wait until they are on sale
It’s far from “inevitable” that we end up with all digital. That’s very deterministic- companies want all digital to maximise profits - that’s it. I personally would not purchase an all digital console for the reasons outlined in video. I don’t see any upsides to digital other than don’t have to get up to change disk but this limitation is only there as consoles force you to swap disks they could let you install full game and validate ownership once a week or something
You keep saying it’s inevitable but it’s only inevitable because the consumer base is a disorganized conglomerate of low impulse control people who can’t boycott or reuse digital only options
We always need a physical option, we need to preserve these games, and all digital will make it worse, corporations has already shutdown digital storefronts, and is a bad sign for preservation!
Love physical media! I have a list of games I want to get! I'm collecting all of my PS3 an 360 games now! Also getting the last few games for my PS4 an PS5! 🎮🤙👌
I currently own a variety of older video games consoles for this reason as well as they are dirt cheap. I picked up gears of war 1,2,3 all for $0.99 cents per game on a black Friday at a retro video game store. Which is insane value when you consider the hours I could spend playing them. I recently got a ps5 so I haven't touched my 360 in a minute but I love that I have a back log of tons of games to play and I don't even really need to buy new video games for quite some time.
Exactly! I think every game has a huge backlog though. I picked up 3 physical games for the switch about a year ago and each one has like 100+ hours of content and I got them for such a steal. My wife also has a switch so she can play them when she wants too. That’s why I prefer physical
The price of second hand physical games is really a rip off. In my country, they are selling it for almost the same price it was sold for 10-15 yrs ago. I need to have physical games, if its not available on pc, im buying it for ps1-4. With a full time job, side business, and financial responsability, i still cant afford this hobby, between pc parts, consoles, games, it quite sucks, and its forcing me to go full digital, moreso because indies pump out bangers, and they dont do physical releases, but thsy do have drm-free downloads
That’s absolutely fair! Which country are you living in? I think that’s tough because usually you can get a better deal on physical games but if they aren’t lowering the price and it’s higher than the digital, you have to buy what’s affordable. If you’re working full time etc you gotta put your own finances first!
I am similar where I currently buy games where they are the cheapest. I have rdr2 digitally, but I have some games on discs, like black ops 1 and 2. I also wanted to say I discovered your channel yesterday and I have watched a bunch of your videos already. I want to say that your content is great, and keep up the hard work as you are bringing up conversations and ideas most wouldn't think of covering. Also I want to end with a question: Will downloading your games on a hard drive or sd card serve the same purpose of physically owning the game? Like if your friend downloaded the telltale game of thrones on a hard drive and tried to play it again, would the same have happened? I am asking because I don't have a pc I have a mac, where I play on a ps2 emulator with the classic games.
Well thank you very much for the kind words! Really glad you’re enjoying the videos! So, what they did is they downloaded the game and then uninstalled it. So if they had kept it downloaded on an SD card or hard drive, they would have been able to play it. The fact is they deleted it under the assumption it would still be there but by saving them elsewhere you do always have a backup and protect it. It’s often a case of deleting stuff to free up space and when you remove it completely you take that risk. If you saved them you’re safe! Thanks so much again for the really nice words!
The moment all games are digital is the moment you see me with a peg leg and an eyepatch. You don’t own digital games, and digital games are straight up more expensive. There are digital store sales, but there are no discount bins. I’ve straight up refused to buy games that released only as digital. If they want my money, they have to give me a product to own.
Answer is NO and fuck ppl who shill for companies that want to make us have as little choices as possible so they can rule their own market with insanely expensive games.
@@Reaper9-4 completely agree. That’s exactly what I said in the video. If they take away physical games, they will control the entire market. It’s up to us to make sure that doesn’t happen!
Only on PC you can still play it even if they lose the rights. You cant buy it anymore but you can still play it. Seems to be a sony and xbox removing games.
@@NatsumeKonno yup! And if they went this route I’d assume everyone, myself included, would switch to Pc. They do more sales as well whereas the consoles tend to avoid thst completely. Thanks for sharing!
I think a lot of people will do that judging by the comments. The outrage it would cause would really be a bad move. By the way, if everyone stopped buying their products they’d switch back immediately!
People had a high opinion then of digital games was before we learned that digital only means you no longer own anything and it can be taken away at anytime.
Exactly! It’s convenient but man it’s a price to pay! $60 gone. No way to get it back. For a promise it’ll be there if you need it…which it might not be. Plus digital only means more space which means additional hard drives for more money, or you delete it and try to download it later but it might be gone..
I’m only 1 min into the video but you can add a disc drive to the pro, I’ll keep watching. I do think physical is dying because the companies keep telling us year over year the % of digital sales is greater and greater.
It is dying the way disc are is not even the same as befor. Now disc is seen as core files to help speed up your day 1 downloads. Along with always online. The good news is the always online could be going away but majority still don't care about disc.
Why should people add a disc drive and not be given the option to have it included in the first place? Plus, disc drives as a separate purchase gives opportunity to scalpers to buy them up and overcharge for them on Ebay.
@@Hexx_Iztenze it’ll be cheaper for the company to produce without and another potential purchase from you if you want one it’s a win win for them they are in it to make money that’s it
@@roadrunnermjp true. They make money from the original purchase. It's just us who may suffer at the hands of scalpers, either not being able to get the drive or overpaying for it. It's a sucky situation.
@@Hexx_Iztenze it is but I feel more disc drives will be made and eventually they’ll lose money on them because there isn’t a lockdown to slow the production of more Sony will jus see it as demand hopefully and replenish the stock.
Hahah exactly! I mentioned that Pc players will be unaffected at all and i wonder what would happen if it was digital only? I bet more people would move to Pc (I think they are anyway now)
@@nathanielgarza9198 totally agree! I would think people wound almost all go to pc. I mean it’ll end up where the PlayStation will only have like 2 games that’s worth buying it for lol. FF has already had a shift to Xbox
And just so you know I’m not against your content, I like your content and I’m a 80% physical gamer. I buy mostly digital games when they are in deep sale😊
Thank you! I’ve seen your other comments too and will reply here, but I really appreciate the feedback. If I’m wrong about the life is strange being digital only, that’s my fault for not checking it enough. As for the series s part I did try to explain it would probably be tied to finances and those reports are from 2022, which could be totally different now. Either way, thank you for the kind words and all the comments with feedback. As I’m new I’m learning with each video and feedback like this will help me get better. As the channel grows, things I could get wrong before will no longer pass, so I have to make sure to be more thorough. Thanks again for taking the time to write the comments, provide the feedback and leave a positive message as well. It really means a lot.
@@AVVGaming1 I believe people only comment constructively when they care. Your videos are important. You talk about serious stuff and there’s not many channels like yours.
@@herodownunder thank you! And I would ask that you continue to leave feedback. I will never take it badly. It’s actually an honour that people care about my videos enough to comment and offer help. It results in me improving and thus videos getting better. It stops errors because if I say something wrong, like I did, the concept can lose credibility. Thank you again and never hesitate to leave feedback
People who encourage digital gaming are short sighted and narrow minded and like paying the same amount for a digital game they don't own that cost the same price as a physical copy.
Exactly the point I was trying to make! How is that fair? It’s clearly a money grab otherwise they’d lower the price. And if it all goes digital they’ll control the market and can adjust prices however they want as there’s no competition
@@AVVGaming1 and there will be alot of people defending it and constantly say digital is the future stop complaining. A cash grab enabled by idiot customers.
@@MATT-2033 I’ve honestly been surprised by that. But I did a video on Xbox once: saying how their membership thing was bad and how they were buying out all the rights to good studios, then putting them on this membership, essentially stealing the market with funds not earned from the gaming side. Obviously that will end up in tears right? Cuz if they own the market, somebody gotta pay the bill for those investments and it’ll be the players lol but that video was my least successful and most hated video ever so there’s a lot of negativity towards this topic
Between this, rising prices, games as a service, and DEI agendas, the gaming industry is dying a slow and painful death. Out of touch and greedy companies are killing what had become the biggest entertainment sector (in terms of money) in the world.
Sorry I meant the remastered edition (most recent release) but I’m not sure if the new one is digital only or not. It’s good if it’s not, I think the special edition might be digital only. Either way, I needed to do more thorough research as you suggest, thank you for the feedback! I’ll make sure going forward to triple check everything
12:50 not sure at all. Because on the xbox 360 (and Xbox One) Disc, you only have the first episode. The others require a download… BUT the files are no longer available on xbox Store. Sadly. FYI: I only buy physical games (I've been playing for over 40 years), but almost never "recent" games anymore. I stopped at games from the Xbox 360/PS3 generation. If I have no choice, if the game doesn't exist in physical form, often with independent games (Have a nice death, ...): I buy it in dematerialized form, but I don't like that at all. The fact of buying and not owning anything doesn't please me.
Making any kind of comment is now impossible because you said literally everything I was going to. 😅 So spot on. I still buy physical copies of the games I REALLY care about. But lately I have gotten lazy and bought more digital copies. Even of my favorite series. It sure is convenient to the point they are no longer available. But there's very little we can do about it. The future will be digital and collecting games will become impossible. No more manuals, maps or art books. Nothing. Just ones and zeros. Of course this has been the case for PC gaming for a long time now. But you'd trust platforms like Steam to have the games forever. But they won't be there forever either. It's a sad world we are living in. Greed rules over everything. Really good video. Amazing job. Covered pretty much every point I wanted to make.
A big issue is that you technically do have physical media when downloaded via data on your hard drive. The issue comes from overhead from developers making digital storefronts the only way to buy the games. They do that to avoid piracy because you could just download the games for free way too easily in that case, if you legally had ownership of anything that you had on your hard drive that you have a receipt for or proof of purchase, it should never be able to be blocked or removed for you.
Yeah it’d be sad for sure. Either that or everyone will just go to PC. I don’t know why but I’ve always preferred physical games. Just watching the opening of the GTA San Andreas brings back memories and I think it was £40 and you got a map a booklet etc. wish all game companies did that as it was a really nice touch!
@@AVVGaming1 I've been gaming since Atari and Acetronic even before when it was just a dot and you had a slider to try keep the dot bouncing about the screen. Not having a physical game a disc or a cartridge feel like your paying for nothing in a way and they'll make you pay the same price games won't be any cheaper. Game prices should have dropped when they transitioned from cartridge to disc as they where much cheaper to produce but they didn't.
@@eastman566 yeah I mean the price will only stop increasing once people stop buying. The price jump from ps1 to ps2 was $20 then ps3 another $20 and they’ve been trying to get it higher for a while but people pushed back so they haven’t been able to do it yet. They will always try though. That’s so cool that you’ve gamed thst long! I started at Super Nintendo era.
So I used that title as a placeholder and forgot to change the title to the right one lol by time I came back and changed it it had already gone live lol lesson learned! Thanks for letting me know as well :) Your comment reminded me and I am able to fix it quickly!
Unfortunately you’ve gone and made a click bait video. My grip is you’re being uncharacteristically deceptive. By choosing not to clarify the actual price difference between PS5 digital and standard you’re giving less informed people the idea that the two console makers had the same price point
Unfortunately you’ve gone and made a click bait video. My grip is you’re being uncharacteristically deceptive. By choosing not to clarify the actual price difference between PS5 digital and standard you’re giving less informed people the idea that the two console makers had the same price point
Digital platforms can simply BAN you like Steam even if it was an error. And they won't fix it. Bam, you have lost every game. You don't have your internet for a long time? can't play them either. Only for a short time. Wanna lend your friend a game? Add him to your family, or lend him your account. lol. But now steam added a 360 day cooldown. So join a family carefully!! Nintendo will continue to make physical copies. this is how Japan is. I will buy a switch 2 and may just only play that. And once in a blue moon if there is somethng I MUST play on PC, I'll get it while it's on sale :)
I’ll always buy physical games. Why buy digital unless it’s digital only? You can’t play if you have no internet access at the moment, you can’t play the games you bought if they decide to cancel your account. Always buy physical copies. Even DVDs I have been collecting. These streaming services won’t be around forever and the internet isn’t always working the best so buy physical. You have to “work” harder by putting the game/movie in the console but it’s definitely worth it because you for sure OWN YOUR PURCHASE. Be smart, don’t be lazy and buy digital if it’s digital only. It’s not worth it at all.
I think this will also be my last PS console I buy because it's not the future. I sick of these greedy corporations forcing their customers into BS agendas and trying to be greedy and always steeling from its customers. They will find out that many will loose customers and will regret it. I hope people are not dumb enough to keep listening to these clowns 🤡🤡🤡 and stand united and show them without customers YOU DONT MATTER AND EXIST.
Sadly they are for me, I no longer see the value in owning games that require updates to play. It's like FF7REI, I buy the disc and, If I pick it up in a decade and play without updates, I got an inferior product that is probably readily available for $5 on Steam. No Pro patch, no graphic options, just a botched launch release of a great game. My dilemma is seeing the value in a PS digital library, Sony is becoming a nightmare to deal with and if not for trophies and a mediocre couch experience on PC, I would have jumped ship before the gen started. SteamOS is getting there.
One big factor for the studios/console makers actually killing physical games of is profit loss from there deluxe editions or etc i remember when pc slowed down physcial you still get some like farming simulator. But at the rate its going if not the next console gen "excluding nintendo who knows" could be last disc based systems
I hope not I really do. I just think it’s so nice to have the option of buying a game physically and having them. Are you saying that they could lose money from the change? I do see the deluxe versions on digital but they aren’t as valuable as the physical ones. It’d be interesting to compare the difference in sales to a digital deluxe game compared to a physical one which comes with actual products
@@AVVGaming1 even if it costs more to make the physical the avid fans would want to support there favourite games and where i live collectors editions these days can cost nearing as much as a nintendo switch it used to max £100. Only platform i see not doing digital trend for now is nintendo but that can easily change
@@lewisgriffiths5997 yes and the switch is the best selling of the lot! Go figure! I always get my games physical from Nintendo for the switch because my wife has a switch too and we can swap it back and forth. I’m a huge fan of the physical games and I’d fight for it to remain.
@@AVVGaming1 its a great platform im glad you still get extras like posters,statue figurines etc if it does end up fully digital who knows by then people will be making there own games or having ai do that and the person burns to disc,cartridge etc
@@lewisgriffiths5997 I think the indie studios like warhorse and Lorain will always want to have a physical game or at least give physical items in it like KCD2. It’s all about whether the company is a sterile corporate company or still got some love, heart and creativity left in it
a year or 2 years ago i did buy 2 games digital in a sale. It where games from indie developers, and not very well known games. Turned out they are really hidden gems! Last week, there were at a physical sale in the local game shop. Guess what, i did buy those games again for very cheap. Those games will stay in the seal, and i will continue playing the digital version. But they can never take those hidden gems away from me anymore. So, i made a little extra investment for the future of those games. But every physical game you buy is an investment for the future (unless its a online only game). A physical game ALWAYS pays itself back. A digital game is lost and worthless the moment you buy it. Other story... Last week i did buy Marvel Midnight Suns legendary edition (digital) for 25 euro's on Xbox. Played a little bit, great game, i loved it! But i did refund it. Why? i came across the same game physical. The physical version was a little bit more expensive, but still the legendary edition. So i actually just tried the game as a demo digitally (remember this trick😉 ). The physical version will keep its value, the digital version not....
I own both physical and digital on both Series X and PS5. A worry I have is that digital content can be altered or removed at any time. (Look at the recent concord debacle which may have upset the 2 people that bought it 😅) Sony removed some shows that customers had paid for due to licensing. Another thing that worries me is does buying a physical copy really change the situation? Seems a lot of discs I've installed don't seem to be the full game. 15gb from the disc the rest downloads online, plus any updates and patches and DLC also is online. (Don't get me started on how over reliant developers have become on patches.) I see the pros in digital content, many people lack space to store all the physical copies. You can play any game without getting a disc out or watch movies without switching a disc. You can have a new game/movie in an instant through the digital store. However there are a lot of cons. Game stores seem to be dying. Where I live there is literally one place when there used to be 4. Trade in and swapping is pretty much dead. Lending someone a game won't be possible anymore. Sale prices don't generally seem as good. We don't seem to really own said content. Which seems the worst part.
So currently the disc drive sells for $80. If you ask anyone the price of ps5, they wll probably tell you $500 and not $450 (which is the price of digital ps5). If ps5 pro launched with a disk version, it would cost $750 and all news outlets as well as criticisms would be based on this price. $700 being already too high, sony might have done it to make the ps5 pro sound cheaper. Would be nice if they brought down the price of disk drive to the price difference between digital and disc version ($50)
As an ex game collector myself, i have come to the conclusion that all games have a shelf life, how long that is, depends on person, whilst its a trophy to have your games, i feel the entertainment value will eventually vanish until something else replaces it somehow, im not a believer of nostalgia, sega rally is still a fun game and all you want to do is be closer to the best experience, so you can either have the game or the arcade itself, and its always just a case of scratching an itch until the itch changes form. I have been a fan of armored core since 97, armored core 6 actually released, its excessively rare i want to go back to AC1 even though i own it, I want to go back to 3 or last raven till this day, and yes i own the series so i can, AC6 is 10/10 as a fan of the series, but i still wont get the old stuff back until a remake (likely never) or a slight bit of hope of AC7 being more of the same with x10 the content and dynamics like old-gen, as when you go back thats what the old games feel like, its like getting the right portion size for dinner. We are in such a strange place in gaming.
They have been dying for a while sales wise, and you also never get DLC on disks anymore. The companies are pushing digital games by choices like this (even having to buy a drive separately for the slim). Sony dropped allowing 3rd parties to sell digital keys too. It is inevitable now that physical games die, but sony's model will be hurt by it. Microsoft want you on gamepass, Sony just want you to pay £70 rather than the £50 a lot of games drop too on disk day 1, and Sony want to control those sales, rather than cheaper games being off store. It's not even just the 2nd hand market, disks from Amazon are often PSN sales prices all year. It is what it is, but it does suck. The PSN store is just too expensive in the UK. PS+ extra does not offer new titles, it won't change the market they are trying to kill.
Another pro for physical games is those of us with bad internet speeds. I bought gran turismo 7 on disk. It was about 90GB and I had it installed and ready to play in an hour. Horizon Call of the Mountain on the other hand I received digitally with my psvr2. It was about 40GB. Took about a week to download. And if I run out of storage space and delete it and decide I want to play it later. I'm gonna have to do it all over again.
12:55 this is not true anymore. If you buy a physical copy for the Series X & they lost their rights to a game, if the 1.0 version is on disk, you can play it from start to finish. If it's a game where your xbox has to request a the game files from their servers, you are screwed. You are double screwed if your game is online only... UBISOFT (The Crew)...
"If every game is digital, there is no alternative purchasing option". PC doesn't have this problem because there are many legitimate 3rd party sites that sell product keys as well as multiple digital stores that compete with each other. The problem is with your beloved Sony and Nintendo that want to keep a stranglehold on digital sales, not a problem of the digital medium itself.
It’s “common knowledge that the series S became most people’s 2nd or 3rd console only due to the price and for gamepass but the same dynamic didn’t happen with the PS5 digital
