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Vicki puts the RenaultSport Clio Turbo up against its race car alternative, the clio cup race car. Which is better? For access to exclusive Fifth Gear content and all FULL episodes, join our channel ru-vid.com/show-UCa6xsp7d4s-NgpPUGc57ZGAjoin
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@DrCrunkMusic
@DrCrunkMusic 3 года назад
Before I even watch yes of course they are 😂
@amineghostdog
@amineghostdog 3 года назад
well you cant compre laptimes with the added weight of a passenger...
@altergreenhorn
@altergreenhorn 3 года назад
And different tyres - a huge difference
@captmcneil
@captmcneil 3 года назад
@@altergreenhorn Weell, the passenger is one second and only really countering the driver here. The road tires however are part of the deal. You could tweak lots of things, like throwing out the passenger seat - that's just not the idea.
@Dan23_7
@Dan23_7 3 года назад
Plus a standing start
@karolyorban
@karolyorban 3 года назад
she did get a rolling start too, on the timed lap
@karolyorban
@karolyorban 3 года назад
can't edit my own reply :) it looks like i missed, that he did get a similar start as well :D
@jofan1982
@jofan1982 3 года назад
To make this more accurate you'd have to 1)use same driver 2)warm the tyres on the regular car and 3)go without a passenger. Just sayin... ;)
@LewisRhymes
@LewisRhymes 3 года назад
Yeah she also had a rollling start on the actual timed lap 😠
@kenriehl7852
@kenriehl7852 3 года назад
I think we all know that... I’m going to go out on a limb and say, the producers decided ahead of time that Ms Victoria was going to win this one. Just a guess...
@altergreenhorn
@altergreenhorn 3 года назад
Yes and the same tyres
@iluvfionaleggate
@iluvfionaleggate 3 года назад
@@LewisRhymes So did the road car in fairness
@rexmedorum
@rexmedorum 3 года назад
@@altergreenhorn No as that would make the road car no longer road legal.
@lord8139
@lord8139 3 года назад
The most uneven way to compare the two. Two different drivers 1 lap with a passenger 1 with a flying start 1 with a standing start WTF
@jasonboyle7203
@jasonboyle7203 3 года назад
Aye it is but in the name of entertainment lol
@jofan1982
@jofan1982 3 года назад
And cold tyres on the regular Clio as well..
@vytbbb7146
@vytbbb7146 3 года назад
i believe they did a flyer with the stock car too. just filmed the burnout for the drama :)
@WhuDhat
@WhuDhat 3 года назад
@@vytbbb7146 you tell em Bob, don't doubt old top gear or ol'Tiff-æh. Those boys(+1) were always competitive and wouldn't rig any real test no matter how bad the odds, unless of course it was for a challenge then as with all TG's all bets are off every now and then haha
@akshaysankarshana2405
@akshaysankarshana2405 4 месяца назад
I mean, it should be same driver and warmed up tires, only the driver sitting in both cars during the hot laps. I guess the flying start for the road car was just edited out, if it were from a standing start, it would've been an even bigger difference.
@RobinThomson277
@RobinThomson277 3 года назад
Vicki's so great always
@vytbbb7146
@vytbbb7146 3 года назад
i wonder what "stock" clio would do with those racing tires, and no passenger.
@system450
@system450 3 года назад
A lot better laptime for sure !
@AgtX999
@AgtX999 3 года назад
Or interior.
@dominikrollenmiller2523
@dominikrollenmiller2523 3 года назад
Stock clio is available with 220 hp and the 100ms shift times.... This race car is just a street legal where you put all Interieur out.... And guess what between the 200 hp version and the 220hp version are miles different..... EG nearly half the time needed to 200 etc
@Feral6-h3g
@Feral6-h3g 3 года назад
So to summarize some comments here. She started over the line while going flat out, he started from stand still. She was in the street car adding weight. The tyres should have been the same for the test. Should have been the same driver for both cars.
@arifabdullah7142
@arifabdullah7142 3 года назад
Silly race! The road car has 2 people in it. That's at least 80kg heavier.
@DashDrones
@DashDrones 3 года назад
Rolling start, less weight with one driver, what's the point of comparing?
@farvatron
@farvatron 3 года назад
*3 Vicky is clearly punching for two these days!
@atkins.8832
@atkins.8832 3 года назад
Should been just one driver in the road car. Either way the race car time is slow !
@LifeExplanatory
@LifeExplanatory 3 года назад
I bet you’re a much better driver than Vicky 🤣
@atkins.8832
@atkins.8832 3 года назад
@@LifeExplanatory funnily enough yes as gone quicker round there in a Clio 200
@jonnyxs892
@jonnyxs892 3 года назад
Vicky you were ballast😂😂
@polarweis
@polarweis 3 года назад
the clio rs in that color is stunning.
@talal1987alami
@talal1987alami 3 года назад
Didn't he start from a dig while she blasted past the start/finish line flying from the previous lap?
@roby054
@roby054 3 года назад
yep
@rossthompson2699
@rossthompson2699 3 года назад
Exactly.
@jamesdm75
@jamesdm75 3 года назад
Extra passenger in road car and flying lap in race car, hmmm , well done Vicky
@nicola5307
@nicola5307 3 года назад
What a joke!!!! I have been on at least 10 official renault track days, 1 lap in a clio RS race car as a passenger. Race cars are are on a different planet.
@geraldgoodiii6993
@geraldgoodiii6993 3 года назад
Those straight cut gears ⚙️ 💜
@badusername4
@badusername4 3 года назад
Fun vid ! car throttles bmw estate was probably the best series to show each components difference to becoming a faster car.. quite surprising
@TheQuestionTheAnswer
@TheQuestionTheAnswer 3 года назад
I never got how you can do these sorts of comparisons with one of the cars on slicks....the amount of grip you get off a slick is actually terrifying
@Baturatus
@Baturatus 3 года назад
Wait, is this a new video? Vicki Butler-Henderson looks great. Oh I want this Clio Cup Race butttttttttttt I live in Mordor).
@bign3ck
@bign3ck 3 года назад
I miss the 200 Cup manual Clio so much.
@drazenbudis1303
@drazenbudis1303 3 года назад
Buy one before they skyrocket, and they surely will
@mr.carguy654
@mr.carguy654 3 года назад
Vicky is 🌶🌶🌶
@paulsimonsson
@paulsimonsson 3 года назад
Would have been properly interesting with the same tyres on both cars. Vicky is brilliant!
@rohanpatil6168
@rohanpatil6168 3 года назад
Vicky :D really like the idea of comparing those two cars too
@richboy900
@richboy900 3 года назад
Considering a civic touring car is quicker than a McLaren supercar around a circuit, I'd say that's pretty accurate
@PhantomMark
@PhantomMark 3 года назад
My E36 race car lapped around there in 1:40 flat pretty much, where my old VXR8 managed a respectable 1:47 with a lot more power tbh...... 1:45 is a decent enough lap around there in the Clio race car to be fair, I was a little surprised the road car wasn't a little quicker tho, I didn't feel my laps in the Holden were "uber" fast......its not really a power track either ?
@Phnergelde
@Phnergelde 3 года назад
I love my RS 197. Such a wonderfully antisocial wee beasty.. Smiles per hour.
@anthonypetty9288
@anthonypetty9288 3 года назад
Cadwell Park looks like a fun place to race.
@maximahafm
@maximahafm 3 года назад
The Road Clio is a R.S. 200EDC of frist generation, must be a Clio R.S. Trophy 220EDC of second generation (are very different cars, I had been one) against the Renault Clio Cup. If you want do this thing, do it well or not do it.
@PhantomMark
@PhantomMark 3 года назад
1:49.7 , actually disappointed with that , I thought it would be quicker tbh, managed 1:47.5 around there in a big fat Holden V8, I really would have expected the Clio to dominate a car like that around Cadwell ? Phil wasn't exactly hanging around either !!
@nonopus3125
@nonopus3125 3 года назад
Gotta love VBH! 😍
@finite934
@finite934 3 года назад
Been laughing along with top gear all these years, but now they seem a bit old in the tooth and a lot un-PC, and I realise that the 5th gear team is really lovely, down to earth, and so technical in comparison. It's a shame that top gear always stole the limelight with their brashness.
@elvanmilla830
@elvanmilla830 3 года назад
That’s a brilliant video more like this comparisons 👍
@chriscringle9263
@chriscringle9263 2 года назад
I bet the Clio wasnt the only thing he wragged around that afternoon!
@rotorblade9508
@rotorblade9508 3 года назад
That was funny Anyway I expect the race car to be much quicker: more power and probably like 200kg less ? idk then the suspension, brakes and tires add more performance, like a some good seconds faster.
@bitkarek
@bitkarek 3 года назад
he should do one lap in the race car too... i would like to see the drivers difference.
@stevecowham1017
@stevecowham1017 3 года назад
1 warm up lap/slicks. An extra passenger..no contest.
@davecroden9793
@davecroden9793 3 года назад
That’ll be the fast rolling start you had Vicky; laddie had a standing start only
@rudi_ghuliani
@rudi_ghuliani 3 года назад
I think this is staged this way is bc the race car can't get proper heat in their tires in one lap.
@rafailspari1529
@rafailspari1529 3 года назад
Can't wait to race my Clio in nurburgring track ❤🚘
@paulroberts3974
@paulroberts3974 3 года назад
So have both people in the non race car that makes it fair lol
@Johnjakfay1969
@Johnjakfay1969 3 года назад
Also she was at full speed when she started and he had to go from a Dig.
@davespooney8472
@davespooney8472 3 года назад
One started from a stop?
@resnonverba137
@resnonverba137 3 года назад
I do enjoy these videos, but the comparisons really need to be a little better done.
@DANNY-xk9fg
@DANNY-xk9fg 3 года назад
Why didnt you use trophy? Both would of had same power
@elvanmilla830
@elvanmilla830 3 года назад
More videos like this 👍 brilliant
@leed2883
@leed2883 3 года назад
Road car standing start,race car flying lap?
@davidwilliamson9162
@davidwilliamson9162 3 года назад
Go on Vicky lass !👍
@leedstown
@leedstown 3 года назад
4 seconds is a lifetime in racing
@squadmeta
@squadmeta 3 года назад
Oh, a tyre comparison video.
@baronhyatt6729
@baronhyatt6729 3 года назад
Absolutely love this episode cuz I'm Vicky wheel of Vicky Vicky Vicky Vicky and Vicki one
@berndecke9488
@berndecke9488 3 года назад
Vicki did a great job at all..
@dominikrollenmiller2523
@dominikrollenmiller2523 3 года назад
The question is how old is that test? Cause.... The 200 edc clio is shit. But there is a clio rs trophy 220edc with the same specs like the "race car" and its absolutely street legal. For comparison the trophy drives at around 8:30 around the nurburgring. The normal 200 edc is more then 30 seconds slower....
@steveunderhill6570
@steveunderhill6570 3 года назад
1 person slicks and a flying lap, a moron may have bet against the track car , it would of been a lot closer with both laps from a standing start
@Neil-Aspinall
@Neil-Aspinall 3 года назад
Why do so many people in the UK have that lisp?
@jaseleese7549
@jaseleese7549 3 года назад
Stiff upper lip
@Neil-Aspinall
@Neil-Aspinall 3 года назад
@@jaseleese7549 Oh I see Sir, right you are!
@tony66au
@tony66au 3 года назад
I dont care who you are, VBH for the win every time lol
@TG-pd3ft
@TG-pd3ft 3 года назад
carrying an extra 100kg of ballast just may have slowed down the road car a bit no?
@Beastnappy
@Beastnappy 3 года назад
She won't weigh 100kg mate😉
@steviewonderzaful
@steviewonderzaful 3 года назад
@@Beastnappyhis right, the race car is lighter so it's about 100kg difference in weight.
@superbike1
@superbike1 3 года назад
More power,more grip and no passenger, if they had the same tyres and no passenger in the road car then the gap would have come right down to around 2 seconds
@owenmarron6651
@owenmarron6651 3 года назад
wtf the car used in video is my car that i wrote off last year
@janludwikkotowski
@janludwikkotowski 3 года назад
running lap vs standing start? only there you got like 2-3 sec advantage... what a bs test. the fact is race car is reinforced mostly because stock one wouldn't handle more than 2-3 laps with race pace. It'd overheat and gearbox must've been replaced every second or third race weekend...
@ahnilatedahnilated7703
@ahnilatedahnilated7703 3 года назад
Passenger, flying start, you were bound to win.
@carculturenation2166
@carculturenation2166 3 года назад
Most race cars have regulations and sometimes have roll cages and other things that bring weight back up after weight reduction. So in some cases the street version is faster if not just build it faster!! Lol
@WhuDhat
@WhuDhat 3 года назад
We all knew the answer, but we still watched because we wanted to see the attempt, right?
@averagepal572
@averagepal572 3 года назад
So road car was a standing start and the race car a rolling start? This comparison was a great idea but executed poorly.
@SA-zoom1
@SA-zoom1 3 года назад
Are supermodels more attractive than traffic wardens?
@pmeyer37
@pmeyer37 3 года назад
Not sure how that's fair, two up road car vs 1 up racer....
@jerrymyahzcat
@jerrymyahzcat 3 года назад
Vicki had a running start though...
@MrBrenden830
@MrBrenden830 7 месяцев назад
5 seconds I would give it to the street car. Heavier on street tyres with 2 people. The person has got to be worth 3-4 seconds alone. Don't know why they did that other than the street car was faster so the put in the passenger to slow it down.
@akshaysankarshana2405
@akshaysankarshana2405 4 месяца назад
That's not how you do a fair comparison, FG. Same driver, only one person in the car, warm up both tires before the timed laps. The fact that you guys are re-uploading old content clearly shows that the new Fifth Gear, especially after Tiff Needell left, was absolute trash.
@torquecars2338
@torquecars2338 3 года назад
Extra passenger and a rolling start, hardly comparable really
@PushToStart
@PushToStart 3 года назад
Not really fair given that she had a flying lap where the dude started for stationary 🤣🤔 Never the less, do love a Liquid Yellow Baguette 🥖 🇫🇷
@OllieC100
@OllieC100 3 года назад
Yes they are. Next!
@EugVR6
@EugVR6 3 года назад
Extra passenger!....Come in 5th gear!
@dylangough6806
@dylangough6806 3 года назад
100 percent should’ve been compared to the trophy
@KadettLino
@KadettLino 3 года назад
Should have switched wheels and tyres.
@ProTasiable
@ProTasiable 3 года назад
Sounds like it has a supercharger.
@bmstylee
@bmstylee 11 месяцев назад
Probably straight cut gears in the transmission whining.
@Chic-A-Dee
@Chic-A-Dee 3 года назад
4:38 Fifth Gear.
@andrewbeard2235
@andrewbeard2235 3 года назад
just here for Vicki
@farvatron
@farvatron 3 года назад
You like 'em big huh?
@andrewbeard2235
@andrewbeard2235 3 года назад
@@farvatron yeah your mum was the original big mama though
@TheNonAlignmentMovement
@TheNonAlignmentMovement 3 года назад
Need tiff
@christopherdaniel6142
@christopherdaniel6142 3 года назад
why this vid gave me such a dirty mind ...no idea why ,oh! the lil back an forth was hot to me for some reason . im sending this to hornhub is a video pitch
@deejarvisful
@deejarvisful 3 года назад
Different drivers, different number of occupants. Hardly scientific was it? 🐒
@sl077766
@sl077766 3 года назад
Er, ballast! :D
@charlieburton9967
@charlieburton9967 3 года назад
So he had a road car. And A passenger. Hmm. Sorry but that sucks.
@PhantomMark
@PhantomMark 3 года назад
VBH, dunno what you are doing but you suddenly got smoking hot again....
@aaronhotchkins2854
@aaronhotchkins2854 3 года назад
Do you not need to wear a helmet at this track
@ussvoyager8650
@ussvoyager8650 3 года назад
Vicki I totally love U... you R the Hottest Woman on the Entire Planet I totally loved watching U on Top Gear back in the 90s & U R even more Beautiful than Ever & U R the best driver in the whole world EVER & U have such an amazingly beautiful voice
@jamesdm75
@jamesdm75 3 года назад
Stalker
@ussvoyager8650
@ussvoyager8650 3 года назад
@@jamesdm75 no I'm just saying that she's an amazing woman & a great driver I've watched top gear back in the 90s when she was on & fifth gear & she's on 2 of my Jeremy Clarkson dvds
@ussvoyager8650
@ussvoyager8650 3 года назад
@@jamesdm75 I am not like that I'm nearly 42 & I've never been in trouble ever I was not brought up that way I'm a really great person & I've never hurt anyone
@jamesdm75
@jamesdm75 3 года назад
OK mate chillout , was saying more in jest than anything!
@ussvoyager8650
@ussvoyager8650 3 года назад
@@jamesdm75 oh ok did U watch Top Gear back in the 90s
@thecornishbiker9323
@thecornishbiker9323 3 года назад
80kg lighter due to no passenger
@Ellie_Melloy
@Ellie_Melloy 3 года назад
I couldn't watch this to the end, she's insufferable. But it's obvious which one will win. The race car has more power and better tyres. In the road car she was a passenger probably adding 80kg, and it still has all seats which could add another 70kg. That's probably 10% of the car's weight. Plus she got a rolling start and he didn't. When they make trash videos like this, you just know they swapped drivers and ran different laps until they got the time they were looking for - it's probably a paid advertising trick.
@fenboy3779
@fenboy3779 3 года назад
Race car flying lap.Road car car standing start ,do they think were all idiot's.
@AMIGOALCAM
@AMIGOALCAM 3 года назад
Just buy a Peugeot 308 GTi 300bhp standard 😂
@AgtX999
@AgtX999 3 года назад
Nothing to do with the huge difference in weight then?
@mikep9945
@mikep9945 3 года назад
Vicky..... My dream wife
@albertt7784
@albertt7784 3 года назад
What a totally pointless comparison! Does anyone really think a racing car that costs more than double that of the road car its based upon is going to be slower around a track than the road car which has an extra passenger in it and is starting from a stand still vs a flying start for the race car? What a totally pointless video.
@mateuszodrzywoek8658
@mateuszodrzywoek8658 3 года назад
fifth gear, for when BBC is blocked in your country
@mateuszodrzywoek8658
@mateuszodrzywoek8658 3 года назад
dont get me wrong fifth gear is awesome
@gavinwyllie7855
@gavinwyllie7855 3 года назад
Use a VPN.
@leehenry5764
@leehenry5764 3 года назад
I'm jealous that you're country blocks BBC.
@xWILZTAx
@xWILZTAx 3 года назад
Fifth gear when you refuse to pay you're tv licensing as to not fund a paedophile organisation
@farvatron
@farvatron 3 года назад
@@xWILZTAx BINGO!
@davidkelsey2864
@davidkelsey2864 3 года назад
Vicki, you're too much of a distraction, get outta the car!!!
@ukwan
@ukwan 3 года назад
4.5 seconds isn't competitive against anything around that track, you can't compare the two not even close.
@garypCronshaw
@garypCronshaw 3 года назад
Der brain!
@TANKSINATRA289
@TANKSINATRA289 3 года назад
Si ma dovevi prendere la Trophy da 220
@swissyodelbear
@swissyodelbear 3 года назад
LOL
@napraznicul
@napraznicul 3 года назад
"no cheating"?!.. it's huge cheating from the start, because street car runs with about 65kg weight added. I can't watch further, because really don't matter ...
@farvatron
@farvatron 3 года назад
Jesus Christ Vicky lay off the pies love!
@farvatron
@farvatron 3 года назад
@Ross Bourne Simp!
@edgimson5706
@edgimson5706 3 года назад
Women have curves like Vicky. Girls have bones. Obvious which you prefer.
@farvatron
@farvatron 3 года назад
@@edgimson5706 HAHA bit of a fat kent ourselves are we?! pmsl!
@ignacioentrocasso8171
@ignacioentrocasso8171 3 года назад
Rubbish... the race car did not start por still. Dissapointing
@mahadzirabdkarim4800
@mahadzirabdkarim4800 3 года назад
..+.3√π\45¶∆ = that lady Weight 88kg