Are Roku TVs Hiding Local Channels from an Antenna? 

They get paid

@@jameswilliford5478 We figured as much. In other words, they are greedy.

I'm great with technology and it took me a good ten minutes to figure this issue out! It drove me crazy because I can usually figure out an issue within seconds.

No, it"s because people complained that they combined their channels with the antenna channels and there was a huge backlash.

It gets hard to determine what's local and what's national when they are combined.

Now you know what it feels to be old and having these problems.

the fcc literally lists every single local channel you are "allowed" to get or should get, almost 70 or 80, BUT only 25 or thirty come in, each and every rescan, and it changes 😷☕🇺🇸

I'm great with technology and it took me a good ten minutes to figure this issue out! It drove me crazy because I can usually figure out an issue within seconds.

@@AntennaMan Sometimes, all it takes is finding out what the exact make and model the TV is and looking up the PDF for the TV's instruction manual online...

​@Justin-Hill-1987 but, but, but, he's Antenna Man💥💥💥and you're asking him to look at an instruction manual😂😂😂

Shouldn't need a manual to watch television on a television.

​@@AntennaMan Me too I can look at a problem and come up with a solution pretty fast

I saw this option but figured a lot of people won't want to hide streaming channels. The easier solution would be for Roku to include all channels in the guide including the ones from the antenna. Make sure to watch the THON live stream on Saturday and Sunday. I plan on being there so there's a very small chance you'll see me on it.

Thanks for sharing.

Oh I didn’t know THON is streaming. RU-vid? Somewhere else?

My settings doesn’t display a tv input option

Thank you- I found mines this way!!!

I saw this option but figured a lot of people won't want to hide streaming channels. The easier solution would be for Roku to include all channels in the guide including the ones from the antenna.

@@AntennaMan The easiest solution: Put the DARN TV ANTENNA ICON back on the menu like before. Corporate goons are always trying to rob the consumer. Remember afta aftershave? The bottle is designed to stand upside down to facilitate every drop to be consumed. Well, guess what? Some genius in marketing thought 'Let's make the cap round so they can't squeeze every last drop out of it and thus they will have to buy another one earlier than with the flat cap'. When that happened I quit buying that brand. Guess what? afta went back to the flat cap later on when their CUSTOMERS rightfully quit buying their product. I HATE CORPORATE AMERICA. THEY HATE THEIR CUSTOMERS AND THEY THINK WE ARE STUPID! Bud Lite anyone?

Firmware updates are evil. Most of the time thy make your life worse than before the update.

If it's not baffling newbies, then the cordcutting platforms are paralyzing people with overwhelming choice and/or poorly designed interfaces (Andy Jassy, here's looking at you and Amazon).

They are doing this, because they get nothing out of it, no cash. Of coarse its not going to be front and center.

I always thought his introduction was someone extremely depressed and suicidal.

Not a bug. The two different "Live TV" icons on a Roku TV are actually two distinct apps. The purple "Live TV" app is actually the "Roku Channel" app inherited from the Roku box/stick. The black and white "Live TV" app is the TV tuner app (only found on Roku TV, not on the Roku box/stick) for watching TV from the ATSC/QAM tuner. What is causing the mass confusion is that the TV tuner app ALSO supports the streaming channels from the Roku Channel app and are included in the program guide by default. IMO, the "Roku Channel" app should just be removed from the Roku TV OS software because the TV tuner app does everything it does, but Roku probably can't do that (easily) because the Roku TV OS is just the Roku box/stick OS with things ADDED to it to support the TV hardware it is customized for.

@@Tempora158 They just recently added that black and white live tv app to all Roku models, including non-TV ones. My Roku express has it, but it only shows streaming channels. I think it is intentionally confusing so they can push people to streaming services.

@@Tempora158 These used to be two distinct apps, unique to each type of device. Roku TV's would only show the TV Tuner "app," even if you had the purple Live TV app installed on your other Roku devices. Stand-alone Roku sticks/players would only show the fancy purple app, since they lack TV tuners. Simple. Some time last year, Roku changed this. Now, they have made things even more confusing, by adding the TV Tuner version of the app to Roku sticks/players, alongside the existing purple version. This may cause the opposite problem of confusing people into thinking these devices have TV tuners, when they do not. On a Roku stick, functionally the only difference between the two Live TV apps is that the plain looking TV Tuner version takes you directly back to the Home screen when you back out of it. If you use the purple Live TV version and hit the Back button, it will take you to the Roku Channel app, rather than going directly to the Home screen. Again, this is happening on devices that do not even have TV tuners, so there is absolutely no reason to have two different versions of the same app on each device. Roku, make it simple and put it back the way it was before. The purple Live TV app version should be reserved for the devices without TV tuners, to approximate the function of the TV tuner app for devices that need a Guide app to access the streaming channels. Roku TV's with built-in tuners already have the TV tuner app that integrates the streaming channels with the OTA channels. The purple icon is not needed on these TV's.

​@@Tempora158 I have an option on my Roku TV to hide that menu selecton and app icon for streaming tv channels. Doing so does not prohibit me from accessing real live TV and the streaming live TV channels from the other Live TV option.

I agree it's probably the best streaming device out there. I just wish it didn't de-prioritize local channels from an antenna.

@@AntennaMan M-O-N-E-Y 🤬

I'm great with technology and it took me a good ten minutes to figure this issue out! It drove me crazy because I can usually figure out an issue within seconds.

There shouldn’t be a difference. It’s crazy to have such inconsistent behavior on identical named items. “Live TV” app should be “Live TV” app - regardless of where you launch it from on the Roku. (But it’s not.)

@@curtispavlovec I agree! I haven't looked into it, but I'll try to remove the Roku live tv app from my mom's tv. I highly doubt that I'll be able to do it without some type of a hack. By the way, today while they were discussing their ages, my 92 year old mom told her lunch pals that she was 102. Perhaps it's a fruitless battle to mess around with her tv. 😒

Another viewer suggested renaming the first "live TV" icon to "Antenna TV" to differentiate the two.

@@majorbuzz You can go into the Roku settings and hide categories, which are the items in the sidebar.

At least my LG remote has a numeric keypad so I can enter a channel #, Roku not so.

Were you? Do you know if the problem is on Roku TVs from HiSense and TCL? I found the issue on an Onn Roku TV from Walmart.

@@AntennaMan Great question it was on TCL we don't seem to have the problem on the Hi Sense..I didn't notice that until you mentioned it.

I also don't understand why the two guides aren't identical.

@@AntennaMan The purple one was intended to be a streaming-only Guide app for Roku sticks and other stand-alone Roku players. The problem is that it is now also showing up on Roku TV's that already had their own integrated TV Tuner Guide. This makes it difficult for those of us who have both stand-alone Roku players and Roku TV's on the same Roku account. We need the purple version for easy access to the streaming channels on our sticks. However, adding an app to one Roku automatically adds it to every Roku on the account, including the TV's that don't need it. This comes in handy for most apps, since there is no need to do a Search on each Roku device to manually add a new app to each one. The Live TV guide issue is confusing, though. As I said in my other comment, now even my Roku sticks have added a new Live TV guide app that looks identical to the TV Tuner version, even though there is no TV tuner in the stick. So now all of my Rokus have both versions of the Guide, when all I need is one TV Guide (the appropriate one for each device) on each device. How hard can this be for Roku to understand? I could uninstall the purple one, I suppose, but I refuse. It was there first (on the sticks) and it looks nicer. The confusing duplicate (that was automatically added by Roku) is the one that needs to go away.

Helpful, thanks!

Most people don't read the user manual. Even if they did, one would assume that antenna channels would be shown on the guide from the one icon. The fact that I had issues figuring it out means there's a serious problem.

@AntennaMan I deduced that it was their live TV option based on the fact that it looks exactly like their Roku TV icon.....but power of deduction isn't necessarily some people's strong suit. Very click baity video titles here of late, you're better than that.

What brand TV do you have?

@@AntennaMan TCL

I'm going to try this on my friend's TV. If it works, your comment will be pinned.

May even be listed as coax

This. You can also edit favorites and your channel line up through this.

I don't get why Roku doesn't put the antenna channels first within the channel guide. Most would agree that local channels are probably the most important. I wouldn't be surprised if it has to do with money as there is definitely some exchanging hands between Roku and some channels integrated within the channel guide.

@@AntennaManyep. The answer is always $$$.

I don't think it is hard, it's just confusing due to the layout.

Incorrect guide data occasionally happens on Roku and Fire TVs but it's usually with one or two small low powered channels, not the largest CBS station in the country.

What you described is a nascent product category called Smart Displays, not Smart TVs. The Consumer Technology Association requires a member company's TV set marketed as a "TV" to have a TV tuner. Otherwise, it's not a TV.

@@Tempora158 it’s a TV! Because it’s meant to watch television! There’s some smart TVs that don’t have a tuner, because the manufacturer wants to cut costs and use Wi-Fi. And because of the OS from Roku, Google, WebOS which I find it clunky to flip OTA channels.

@@Markimark151 Dude, I wasn't making up the "Smart Display" thing; when Vizio was selling displays that did not contain a TV tuner during the years 2016-2017, they could not, and did not, call them TVs; they were "Home Theater Displays". However, the lack of a TV tuner in even their flagship models caused enough market confusion that everything Vizio released since 2018 contain a TV tuner. No one since Vizio has released a so-called "TV" that doesn't have a TV tuner.

@@Tempora158 I know about those so called tuner-free displays from Vizio! But there’s still new televisions without coaxial tuners sold at Best Buy and Costco, which are made for cost savings and sold at steep discounts. It’s kind of like Apple and Samsung got rid of the headphone jack, but not realizing lot of people still use wired headphones because of their quick connection to their devices!

How does that work out? Issue(s) resolved?