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Are Super and Hyper Forms the Same Speed? 

Bobby Bionic
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@BobbyBionic
@BobbyBionic 11 месяцев назад
Just to be safe, i want to reiterate that this isn't a scientifically accurate test. I replayed each form numerous times until i got similar runs. The player's input and the level's obstacles are going to be a factor in any normal play of the game. The idea here was to see if there was any significant noticeable difference in each to form's speed, and i couldn't find anything substantial. With all that being said, if anyone has any tangible evidence of a difference in max speed, acceleration, etc. found within the code or anywhere else, i'd be interested to hear it. Thanks for watching everybody!
@chacrax6
@chacrax6 11 месяцев назад
According to the og games' source code and sonic retro super and hyper forms share the same speed variables, the only difference is that at least with hyper sonic, he gains the ability to do the attack that fills the screen with white and kills all enemies in sight along with gaining the ability to breath underwater
@malachigv
@malachigv 10 месяцев назад
By a slight technicality, the faster palette updating of hyper sonic can cause extra lag. Highly unlikely though, palette animation code isn’t exactly the main bottleneck in that game
@chacrax6
@chacrax6 10 месяцев назад
@@malachigv the palette system the games on genesis use are made so they can rapidly change it's values since it is manipulated using asm what may cause lag it's if a bunch of particles are loaded at once since hyper sonic emanates this particles from his center and going in a circle motion depending on wich way the player is facing
@bluequacker
@bluequacker 11 месяцев назад
i think Hyper Sonic *feels* faster because of his dash ability and the afterimages, even though it's actually the same speed as Super Sonic
@psyxypher3881
@psyxypher3881 10 месяцев назад
Yeah I knew for a while the Hyper Forms weren't any faster. The draw was really the new abilities. Which themselves weren't even that good, but hey, you feel like a boss when you do it for the first time.
@mr.jitterspam9552
@mr.jitterspam9552 10 месяцев назад
The hyper dash ability was very good though, so you get all the shield effects, except magnetic rings
@Chillipeffer
@Chillipeffer 11 месяцев назад
I never really felt a difference in speed between forms, but this was and interesting test
@joewilliams-un8vu
@joewilliams-un8vu 11 месяцев назад
Thank you for measuring this, I always wondered if they were or not.
@pvzmariosonica8fan
@pvzmariosonica8fan 11 месяцев назад
There's one other thing with 2.1: For some reason Sonic 1 crashes when you go underwater as Tails...
@takiallahjamai
@takiallahjamai 11 месяцев назад
unplayable
@ABUltra64
@ABUltra64 4 месяца назад
They fixed it
@jbhamham3754
@jbhamham3754 11 месяцев назад
Apparently the game crashes on console if you play as Tails alone in Labyrinth Zone in the new update…which makes the game completely uncompletable as Tails….it’s extremely unacceptable that something that obvious wasn’t fixed before the update rolled out.
@BobbyBionic
@BobbyBionic 11 месяцев назад
Wow, i just tried it and it crashed on each act each time. I wonder what in the new update causes this, since it definitely wasn't an issue before.
@Chillipeffer
@Chillipeffer 11 месяцев назад
@@BobbyBionic could be his swimming
@PossiblyCoolAnimations
@PossiblyCoolAnimations 10 месяцев назад
⁠@@Chillipefferwait so then wouldn’t it crash on scrap brain act 3 too
@nOT_sURE08
@nOT_sURE08 11 месяцев назад
Wake me up when they put the original music back into 3.
@budgetcoinhunter
@budgetcoinhunter 11 месяцев назад
Agreed. The November 1993 proto's tracks were infinitely better than what they 'remastered' from for Origins.
@marie161719
@marie161719 11 месяцев назад
Its never happening
@thecoolbroscoolman4672
@thecoolbroscoolman4672 7 месяцев назад
Unless MJ’s Associates let go of the songs, it’s impossible
@harrybest2041
@harrybest2041 3 месяца назад
​​@@budgetcoinhunter The tracks used in Origins are probably sourced from a pre-November 1993 prototype that hasn't been leaked online. Some are identical or very similar to how they were in the 11/1993 proto. It's safe to assume they are remastered.
@shadowopsairman1583
@shadowopsairman1583 11 месяцев назад
Nope, Hyper Sonic doesn't drown in water, has the flash attack.
@Sharutia
@Sharutia 10 месяцев назад
Cool, the video is about speed tho
@SpeedyNinja1152
@SpeedyNinja1152 4 месяца назад
Wow, they had me fooled for years. Like maybe over a decade.
@pvzmariosonica8fan
@pvzmariosonica8fan 11 месяцев назад
How did you get past those vine grabber things without spindashing?
@BobbyBionic
@BobbyBionic 11 месяцев назад
That's new to Origins. Having the super form let's you break out of those vines with a jump or roll once they're fully stretched.
@cjtquk
@cjtquk 10 месяцев назад
I always assumed super and hyper forms have the same speed with the difference being extra abilities and afterimages.
@flandechocolate9675
@flandechocolate9675 11 месяцев назад
I always felt that hyper sonic in S3&k was a little bit slower but after many years of playing the game i started to feel that hypersonic just gets to max speed a little bit slower, i might be crazy though
11 месяцев назад
Nice will be if they add Knuckles chaotix
@damonke7674
@damonke7674 11 месяцев назад
it's not really that good though...
@IsayahPesulima
@IsayahPesulima 3 месяца назад
​@@damonke7674 It them will be named Sonic origins ++ (Maybe you can play as them then too)
@samsheyman1312
@samsheyman1312 4 месяца назад
I *swear* that Hyper Sonic is faster then Super Sonic
@gmoneythestickman
@gmoneythestickman 2 месяца назад
How did you think that hyper and super were different speeds?
@BobbyBionic
@BobbyBionic 2 месяца назад
The illusion of the after images, the idea that a hyper form is an upgrade to the super form, the fact you never play Super Sonic and Hyper Sonic back to back, level obstacles impeding either form from reaching top speed consistently, placebo effect, and mostly just playing through the game without giving much thought to if the 2 different forms have the exact same speed or not.
@inkredibill6352
@inkredibill6352 11 месяцев назад
Video starts at 2:11
@joecanhearyou
@joecanhearyou 11 месяцев назад
They removed Hyper Tails in 2.0
@NGO9000
@NGO9000 11 месяцев назад
In my mind, i believe they wanted to have super amy like super tails in the OG S3K, but sega didnt want that, and gave amy a super and hyper form, but forgot to say that super amy is unlocked. So it makes me happy that there was plans for no hyper tails or hyper amy and just have super forms when they got the super emeralds
@soncraftthehedgehog
@soncraftthehedgehog 11 месяцев назад
Hyper sonic can be faster than super with his air dash, also if you can notice, hyper sonic has better acceleration
@malachigv
@malachigv 10 месяцев назад
He doesn’t have better acceleration, the values are byte-for-byte identical.
@jekblom123
@jekblom123 11 месяцев назад
Also, I'm pretty sure that the speed shoes powerup is actually faster than Super Sonic.
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