Are the Legendary Birds OVERRATED in Pokemon Red / Blue / Yellow? 

What do YOU think? Are the legendary birds OVERRATED?

2:56 _BubbleBeam_ is weaker than _Ice Beam_ in Red&Blue in all situations for Articuno. In Generation I, Fire-type Pokémon don't have a resistance to Ice-type moves. Only Ice and Water types resist it. _BubbleBeam_ is 65 × 2 = *130* BP while _Ice Beam_ is 95 × 1.5 = *142.5* BP, almost 10% higher. Plus: a frozen Pokémon is a death sentence in Generation I. Against Ice-types, _BubbleBeam_ is *65* BP, while _Ice Beam_ is 95 × 1.5 ÷ 2 = *71.25* BP, meaning that _BubbleBeam_ will be always inferior to _Ice Beam_ for Articuno in Generation I. It has better PP (20 vs 10), so _BubbleBeam_ is still useful.

The legendary birds are the best out here IMO

Bubblebeam isn't Articuno's strongest move on Blaine; because Fire doesn't resist Ice, Blizzard would be 180 power after STAB compared to SE bubble beam 130. Even Ice Beam would come out slightly stronger. But the Blizzard TM is on Cinnabar and 90% accurate so

Zapdos is my favorite - quick and spiky

1:53 That's actually not entirely true Sure Mewtwo and Mew are the most powerful Pokémon there but thats not entirely because of their typing; Their absurd stats and movepool is the real problem For my money the best type is Normal, for a few reasons. 1. The top 3 pokémon in OU are all pure Normal (and none of them are legendary) 2. Fighting types absolutely suck in this gen so they've effectively no weakness 3. STAB Body Slam and Hyper Beam Two of the best moves in the gen and they have a bonus on it (Keep in mind this is before Hyper Beam had you recharge if you knocked out the opponent. Body Slam also cant paralyze Normal types)

It may have been easier to get through those gyms if your birds started out at level 50 like they do in the game. Just saying some of Giovanni’s team had you out leveled by 10+.

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It's great...until you face Mewtwo. But I love their terrifying role in the second movie.

Blizzard freezes 30% of the time in the Japanese Gen I mainline games making Articuno more broken. Articuno and Zapdos are equally matched against each other although Zapdos is faster. All three birds slightly outpower Mewtwo's Psychic (Articuno's Blizzard, Zapdos's Thunder, and Moltres's Fire Blast each total 62640 vs 54810 for Mewtwo's Psychic). Mewtwo can outpower them back in Gen I by using Amnesia. Mew can learn any move. They're all amazing, but Moltres isn't too game breaking. Bubblebeam is stronger than Blizzard vs Rhydon unless Blizzard is STAB.

Articuno and Zapdos were both really good in-game. Articuno’s Blizzard was the most powerful unboosted special attack in the game. And Zapdos having Drill Peck was excellent. Moltres, however, was terrible in game. Horrible move pool. It couldn’t even learn flamethrower.

Moltres is terrible but is the easiest to find / catch. Zapdos is easy to get and is good. Always helps for Lorelei. Articuno is the best or at least my favorite but the hardest to catch / find.

They are the original legendaries in players minds

I always knocked out Moltres as a kid. Articuno is really good in pokemon stadium. I always had it for the elite 4.

Zapdos should come with thunderbolt by default.

Loved the birbs. Except Moltres of course. I was team Charizard as a kid, I knew how flawed the typing was lol. Zapdos was my favorite, being essentially the best electric type in the game, AND the best flying type (imo). Articuno was neat, but it didn't have that "cool" look/design factor of Zapdos. Also didn't learn drill peck, and man I NEEDED my flying type to know drill peck..

All 3 are absolutely overrated. Non legendary Pokémon like Gyarados and Starmie outperform all 3 of the birds quite easily. Many other Pokémon have a similar performance. Like there isn't a massive difference between Zapdos and Jolteon, in fact Jolteon is occasionally the superior choice thanks to Flying's glaring weaknesses(like Ice) and the fact that Flying itself doesn't cover particularly important types. In fact Moltres is actually the best of the 3 birds, in the sense that he's what Charizard was meant to be, a proper Fire and Flying Pokémon with access to powerful moves from both types. Where Moltres falls short is that he doesn't naturally learn most of those moves, particularly of the Fire variety, so you have to burn TMs on him but than he's a legendary bird so 1 of the better candidates for TM usage. Still, Fire is incredibly weak in gen 1 so you don't really need it in the first place, and being Flying is a double edged sword rather than a clear advantage over the mono Fire types like Ninetales. So yeah, all 3 are pretty fun and all but either come in extremely late or require a massive detour. Articuno is the only one you get rather naturally IIRC so there's that. At least they all come online at level 50 so it's not like you have to grind them after getting them, well aside from Moltres who has a pretty terrible move set and learns Sky Attack very late. Anyway they don't really offer anything unique to the table and are all easily replaced by non legendary alternatives. If Flying was better than they'd have an edge, but being the double edged sword that it is, meh...

Moltres is available SO LATE it makes no sense to me

I find it ironic how Zapdos is vulnerable to electric attacks. Maybe it was deemed too powerful they added an extra weakness?

Bro please change the battery in your smoke alarm, i kept hearing the chirp thinking it was mine but realized it was the video. Other than that the audio sounds fine Not trying to hate just trying to help you for your future video creating endeavors

You should do gen 2 dogs next

They're all dope imo, how'd you get them under level 50? 🤔

Your smoke detector needs a new battery

Wait rapid spin traps, i think you ment fire spin lol. It was said at 5:28.

Zapdos, a lightning bird can use Dig. Gen 1.

How'd u get low level birds? Cheat code?

I thiiiiiiink that articuno is ou in smogon rby, for blizzard. zapdos is like top two in smogon gsc next to raikou, and moltres is solid ou in smogon advanced for immunity to spikes, use of will o wisp, and strong special attack. so um. I've always liked articuno the most. but these are the kind of legendaries I go, well they look cool. but I think about them and go yeah, they don't seem that legendary.

I laughed when you said about moltres using rapid spin

Why did you use gen 3 sprite for Articuno 🤔

Hears a funny thing when I was a kid I thought zapdos was actually spelled zaptoast

DOE notice his smoke alarm beeping throughout this video? Lol

I disagree on the whole “most evil man on earth thing”

back in the day I thought Moltres is in Victory Road because it represents the "Spirit of Competition" of the Pokemon League. Mainly because of the anime. But in terms of ingame story reasons, no explanation was given. It sucks in terms of performance too. Even if you got it earlier, without Fire Blast it is nothing but death weight. Fire Spin doesn't help much either.

Moltres is for sure. I only need Articuno for Ice beam. Zapdos is OP 😤

Zapdos and his drill peck was pretty legit

All 3 birds are encountered at level 50 in the games so your video with them appearing at a lower level isn't very accurate

If you play Zapdos you better use that X Accuracy or something better otherwise you will be sorry when your thunder mises in a crucial moment in a battle. Little light on the defense, maybe I'm just a bad trainer idk

Can you do snorlax and rydon pleass :)

Cuno edges Zapdos only because Jolteon>Zapdos imo

Moltres is the worst considering how late you catch it in the game and the time you need to level it up to have a chance against the Elite 4. Also Gen 1 Fire types are just bad and don't really help in the game at all based on Weaknesses on pokemon Types. Articuno is good just because the FRZ Status stays until the opponents pokemon Faints, however since the Kanto Region is half water based there are better water types to have in your team such as Starmie having an Ice Beam since again Ice types are bad at their defences. Even if it has more bulk weakness in Fire, Fighting, Electric and Rock is too much. Also considering that the Articuno Cave is in the middle of nowhere and having you to solve a "puzzle" to get it just a waste of time. Zapdos is the best in my opinion out of all 3 of the legendary birds, first of all it's the most cool looking and you have an easy access to it. Gets 2 Stab Attacks, Drill Peck & Thunderbolt, can also Paralyze pokemons (i see it as a nerfed FRZ) It's faster out of all 3 of them which in Gen 1 Faster = More Critical Chance = Double the damage. And all in all is the best Electric Type pokemon to have in your team. Not sure if earthquake can hit it since it's part a flying type, so it cancels out it's electric weakness and the only Super Effective move against it are Rock Type moves which i don't remember are good in Gen 1. However everyone has their favorite and with a little bit of exp grind each and every pokemon can just powerthrough the game, so doesn't really matter which one is the best if you taking your time and don't make a speedrun or don't want to use those pokemons in a competitive play.

Articuno and Moltres, yeah. Their barren movepools do them no favours. Being limited to STAB and Normal moves for coverage in Gen 1 hurts them. Cuno gets BubbleBeam but it doesn't hit anything hard that Ice Beam doesn't hit harder. Starting out with Ice Beam is really good though. Moltres is just kind of sad because of its terrible movepool and Fire types not being particularly great in Gen 1. Its outclassed by Charizard despite its stats I'd argue simply because Charizard has a good movepool. Zapdos gets its props with its dual STAB even if it's stopped hard by Rock/Ground types (Hyper Beam being its strongest option which won't even leave a dent). All 3 of them have the strongest unboosted Special Attacks in the game with Blizzard, Thunder and Fire Blast so they have that going for them and even resists don't particularly enjoy those moves if they don't have the Special stats to back them up.

Well Moltres is. Articuno is OP for the end game

As an Articuno fanboy since I was a child running through red version 1000 times, I'm very disappointed in the new version, kinda lame. The OG Articuno is so elegant.

There move pool makes them crappy even when I was around 10 I figured out there stats did not make up for it also bubble beam is weaker then ice beam vs fire in gen 1 stab ice beam is 135 power its not resisted bubble beam is 130 fire gain ice resistance gen 2 .Also fire spin is 70% accurate.

Personally I think they are overrated. Statistically speaking no, their great. But by the time I get their personally, I ready have a full team and type-coverage has been taken care of. And when your whole team I'd a cohesive unit, replacing one means the whole team needs to be formatted. Theirs also all the stat-experiance that the birds dont have in comparison to my pokemon. Idk. Just seems like a waste of time to catch.

I personally think Moltres is pure CRAP despite getting it before the E4 the other 2 are still MORE useful for them.

Zapados is one the the best Pokémon of all time

No pokemon in Generation is all that hard to capture, an asleep legendary has a little over 20 percent to be caught in an ultra ball.

I don't agree with articuno vs fire types, in gen 1 ice is neutral to fire both defensively and offensively

The reason Moltres is available in victory road is because game freak figured out that most players meaning 85%+(I'm pulling that out of my ass btw) will not know where is Zapdos is because of how out of the way it's capture location is not to mention that nowhere in the game it's told explicitly where to capture Zapdos. Articuno is found on your main quest when you travel from fuchsia City to cinnabar Island and Moltres is found on your main journey when you travel through victory road to the elite four.

Moltres is overrated, as fire spin is overrated ... Bubblebeam is the attack

ArticUNO ZapDOS MolTRES

The three legendary birds are illegal in 37 American states?

Legendary beasts >>>> legendary birds

Why arent your Birds lvl 50? XD

im sorry for ruining your 69 subs, it had to be done.

I cannot stand when younger people pronounce Moltres wrong. The names are based off of Spanish: uno, dos, and tres. When you pronounce it like trez (rhymes with Pez) it makes the video unwatchable. I'm aware a couple of times the anime pronounced it like that. Doesn't excuse the ignorance.

Zapdos!!!

Zapdos

I always thought psychic types where way op in gen 1.

I never did like moltres

"fairly late in the game" funny thing is you can probably find 2 of the 3 with only 3 badges, and in frlg, probably all 3 of them with 4 badges, due to moltres no longer being in victory road. (obviously they are supposed to be late game encounters though)

I think you can catch zapdos through the powerplant..if my memory serves well

Ah, gen 1 Articuno: a 90% accurate Blizzard, a Special stat of 125, and fire types not resisting its ice type moves Lorelei walls my boy HARD, tho. Everyone else is a joke

Chad Zapdos, virgin articuno and moltres can seethe