Are the New Stardew Valley Crops Really That Bad? 

I, for one, thought they were fun new discoverable items. I don't think everything needs to "add" so much to a game that it upsets balance or becomes a new big money maker. I feel like it should be said that carrots and broccoli used to be added in in the old PPJA crops mods, and carrots grew in three days there, too. For free items, I think they're a good time investment.

People saying things like carrots are useless when they give THREE TIMES as much energy as salmonberries do and they only take 3 days to grow. Thats a game changer for early game. Now i wont have to worry about energy early game anymore

“And the romancables who act like kids” 😂

I just loved that we had new crops. Also, the carrot making the horse happy is awesome. Apples should too.

It actually threw me for a loop that we didn't have carrots in Stardew Valley before this update! My favorite veggie lacking in one of my favorite (farming) games! How did I not realize we didn't have carrots until now xD I'm happy we have carrots in SV now, even if they may or may not be that good.

Carrots are just so broken for energy early game, which has always been my biggest struggle. Before that first (or even second) star drop it feels like I’m always running out of energy because I don’t have money for salads or cows for cheese yet. Carrots with their quick grow time fixed this for me!

I think it's worth saying that the governor likes summer squash. It's a good option for the luau!

Admittedly, whether or not theyre generally good, they were a lifesaver during my "no buying seeds from pierre" run. (Seeds only because I want backpacks, bouquets, and ai refuse to play traveling merchant roulette for that long for saplings)

On one hand I'm relieved we don't need to cook more recipes for perfection, but..... on the other hand it's kinda sad these plants aren't used in any dishes. Like c'mon it's the carrot and broccoli!😢

There's a really good mod for the new crops called Hidden Crop Recipes (found on Nexusmods) that adds cooking recipes for all the new crops. The new crops are great, but having them involved in cooking makes them feel more integrated into the game for me. Also if you're speedy with unlocking the greenhouse, Getting Racoon shop open before winter is very possible, and Powdermelon seeds for pinecones is probably one of the best shop deals in the game.

Carrots are meta, change my mind

The carrots are great when you're just starting a new game -- they give a lot of energy before you start building up your stats

I was shocked when I first found out how much carrots healed. It makes the Field snack almost completely useless.

Also, 6:04 CORRECTION Despite not being mentioned ANYWHERE for some reason... in 1.6 Edible forage can be used in Preserve Jars and Kegs. So you CAN pickle/juice the Snow Yams/Roots now. (crystal fruit always could be Jammed/Wined) You can even Pickle Edible Mushrooms as well. Purple Mushrooms and Chanterelle go pretty hard in Jars.

People hate the new crops? I LOVE them. One, they give you a reason to look for artifact spots after you get all the books and artifacts. Two, I don''t mind that they may not sell the absolute best without optimization because, again, I see it as free food for the mines. Three, I like the variety. I go out of my way to hunt down these crops, especially the carrots. Super smart to have such a quick crop in spring since you're scrambling for an easy and cheap source of food, especially if you're new to the game.

im fine with them not being huge money makers. it was just a nice surprise and i love the giant crops so a new one is neat! one from every season, very satisfying. the way the brocoli looks is so funny i just love it. i personally enjoy the new crops and always plant them. it also helps out early on bc you're so strapped for cash that its just a lil extra income - free money!

You make 22,798,440 gold per year planting carrots playing on the standard farm planting on it and ginger island every day and turning them into pickles.

I honestly think of all the new crops powder melon is the best because tis easy to find yourself bored in winter so they give you something to farm

It's also really easy to harvest pine cones so you can get more powdermelon seeds from the raccoons, so there's another advantage over winter forage seeds.

Just as a correction, with the 1.6 update now winter forageables can be put in preserve jars and kegs! I recommend using crystal fruit as it gives a nice profit

All of them give such good energy. Summer squash is great for my summer skull cavern dives.

I found it strange how carrots have no cooking recipes.

I feel like the new crops will be hugely useful for doing different challenges

The biggest benefit of the Powder Melons is absolutely the farming experience, I already find foraging the easiest skill to level up, I nearly always have a higher foraging level compared to farming level.

Posting again for (a) engagement and (b) my heartfelt thanks for giving me something to watch between submitting the check run to the boss and getting them back approved to send to the vendors. That's why I went to college. To get paid to watch RU-vid. :)

One small correction near the end: If you've progressed far enough in the giant stump quest, you can trade with Mrs. Raccoon for the new seasonal seeds! EDIT: He mentioned it at 0:35 and I somehow missed it!

I haven't watched the video yet so I'll add my preemptive two cents: the powdermelons are a much more pleasant way to keep fertilized fields going over winter instead of just using fiber seeds, plus the giant crop version is beautiful!! i plant them all winter and use them to fill up my dehydrators whenever i dont have anything better to put in them. I don't do much with the summer squash and broccoli beyond just pickling for fun. The carrots though? That's a god-tier crop. With agriculturist and deluxe speed gro, they only take one day, which is awesome. I use them in my greenhouse or ginger island whenever I don't know what to plant. They've become my endgame food source too. Whenever I harvest them, I keep all the gold quality ones in my inventory to eat, turn the regular ones back into seeds and hang on to the silver ones. People always recommend using gold quality cheese on skull caverns runs but I'd much rather eat a 52 gold item than a 483 gold item just for some health. I find most of the cheese healing just gets wasted by overflowing anyway. Plus, it's way more fun to feed my horse a carrot when I'm eating them as well- it feels like sharing my snack with a friend :3

I really like the new crops, carrot and squash are great for early game energy. I really could care less about the money these crops could make, personally I like how they just complete the game, if that makes sense. Not everything needs to have "value" or tie in with the game entirely to be able to be good

I mean carrots speeding up your horse for a day is good enough to make saving all but one (for the shipping 1 of every item part of perfection) until you can get things like obelisks. I do find it a bit weird how there weren't new recipes added with these new crops, like carrot cake for carrots, broccoli cheese soup for broccoli and something for powdermelon and summer squash (I don't really know what squash is used for tbh)

Thank you so much for this informative video! I loved the way the new crops looked but I wasn't sure about their profitability! And now with the mushroom cave only producing every other day, it was cutting down my battle snacks. Carrots to the rescue! ☺

I think something worth pointing out is that, once you're getting into winter of years one and two, you've probably gotten to a point where you're starting to chop down a lot of trees for wood to make new farm buildings, and of course kegs. So if you have done that in the Mountains, on the Back Path to the Mountains, or even in Cindersap, most of all those trees are going to be giving you pinecones. This means that of all the seeds you'll have to trade, powdermelons will be the most plentiful, and something you can have prepared before the winter forageable seeds. (In my case I had a couple hundred powdermelon seeds, because I was compulsively planting and re-harvesting pine cones as a tree-farm in the desert, so that I'd have a good amount of wood to get myself started.)

3:15 It's actually a full week before the next season So it starts at day 21 of any season

i love any new items !! and honestly if you get loads of these, theyre pretty great !! the next season seeds thing is also really handy :D my only niggle is the integration in recipes but there'll already be mods for that by now !!

1:23 RIP Garlic and Bok Choy

Winter forageables (except crocus and holly, but holly doesn't come from seeds) can be put into preserve jars and kegs as of 1.6, and crystal fruit can be put into the dehydrator. Also having a 250% on seeds is better in my mind than the 200% from seed maker. Or you can seed maker the winter roots and sell the rest. I love the new crops, but never underestimate winter forage.

I routinely get 10-20 of the seasona seed whenever i did a mine run. It's nice not having to buy seeds

While I hadn't done the profit math on carrots, I was immediately struck by how much energy they gave. This let me chop down nearly every tree in town in the first few days of my new playthrough lol

I absolutely love them cause they're great in the mines! Especially in the first year with carrots 😀 I absolutely adore the texture for the powder melon, it looks so magical 😂 On another note, ive always been confused if i should always sell my havests that has stars or not, have you made a video about something like that or can make a video about it? Maybe also a video about when to sell stuff and whats a good idea to hoard? 🙏

you can also get the seeds in the normal mines (not sure about skull cavern i havent gotten that far in my 1.6 file, but ive planted so much summer squash from grinding out the normal mine floors)

New Sal video! Yay!

I primarily use the new crops for energie in the mines. Especially in early gameplay these are a game changer in how much energy they give you and they are free.

Very helpful, thank you

I'm just happy they aren't necessary for cooking for getting perfection. Although ig if there's another update Concernedape will probably add recipes for them

Winter Seeds: The Winter Root, Snow Yam, and Crystal Fruit can all be put into preserve jars, and kegs, Crystal Fruit being the only one that can go into the dehydrator.

I love the new crops! I used them for a nice snack in the mines!

When I saw carrots energy value I was blown away and figured that the new crops would either all be for an energy source, or have their own gimmick, with Carrots being early game (and even mid game) energy, but the others just... did not deliver. i was confused

I’ve never been this early to a salmence video 😮

these are goated idc! im a relatively new stardew player and these are awesome for just getting some extra coin in when u dont feel like making the trip to Pierre's haha ! plus i like the inclusion of them in cc bundles bc they add a little more interest and variety to the game :3

Before watching the video I really liked the new crops in my newest playthrough, the carrots especially were a reaaaally good food source in the early game

I definitely love carrots, they're so fast amd are great for filling in spots around the end of the season, and a slight bonus is that its nice for keeping fertilized soil from disappearing when the season changes

I’ve been treating them similarly to how I treat mixed seeds. If I have empty crop space, then they’re an easy answer. Even better the spots don’t give the seeds if there aren’t enough days to grow them.

i do actually appreciate there being a winter seed besides forage able crops, both because they're prettier, and also because I don't need multiple powder melons to make a single seed pack. I've already been using carrots to aid in the qi crop challenge, and the short turn around, plus not being necessarily a valuable crop means I don't mind harvesting after several days of them being ready, but also I can harvest next days if i have enough beans.

Certainly an interesting overview. In my case, I have a dedicated farm space for crops, but I always have nearby land set aside as places to plant miscellaneous seeds if I find any. That includes these new crops. So I don’t really care if they’re “worth it” or not, because I might as well plant them regardless.

I love that raccoon family, but my gosh.. what moochers. Just hangin’ out in their tree whilst I’m slaving away for their adorable selves

I love the powdermelon, you can buy them for PINECONES and just leave them to grow in the winter. They provide a decent amount of gold for the dehydrator, grow giant melons, and just look pretty. Easily my new favorite crop

EDIT: Ignore my comment, I forgot how speed-gro behaves I've got a counter-point about those carrots and the issue is the Deluxe speed-gro. Deluxe speed-gro at Pierre's is 150g. Oasis on thursday it's 80g. So with those options you've already spent way more than the carrot will give. Crafting them is effectively free, but you'd be spending a decent chunk of time gathering bone fragments and pine resin. Bone Mill has a similar problem, and you aren't guaranteed to get Deluxe speed grow anyway. The odds you'd be able to buy it straight from the desert festival is dismal but doable, but even then they'd only be available when the desert festival is going on anyway. I submit that unless you already have a pine-tapper farm setup (remembering that bone nodes are daily only, and farming skeles requires time fighting them), while *technically* carrots can pull more money than starfruit, feasibly it's moot. Unless you farm Hyper Speed-gro from Qi

I liked the new crops! I honestly hadn't even realized they can be so profittable, because I haven't been able to get over how great of a constant easy food source they are. I can eat one season of summer squash for months just off of the seeds I find in dig spots and i love it

I found carrots and squash to be useful as energy/health source in skull cavern runs when I've buffs from all the pumpkin soup 😅

"all npcs like vegetables, other than the kids - and the romancables who act like kids" Okay so Hayley and Alex?

I love using the new crops as food because they're so easy to obtain and give a lot of energy, summer squash in particular gives such a ridiculous amount of food I find myself not buying even a single salad the entire season

I just started a playthrough on a wilderness farm and carrots have been amazing. I just carry a stack of them and now I’m not buying salads any more or using my fish that I could be selling or turning into Sashimi. With a 4 day grow time too you could get lucky and have some ready to pick right when the mines first open up.

*Points to comment* Look mum, I'm on TV! Great video as always! I do still stand by what I said - the role of 'free seeds you can find out and about' was already filled by mixed seeds, so the wild crops are kinda pointless in that regard, but it's nice to see the niches that they can provide as 'more reliable' freebies. For fun, here's the calcs for base profit/day of mixed seeds: Spring: (175/12 (cauliflower) + 1.25 x 80/6 (potato, accounting for extra potatoes) + 2 x 35/4 (parsnip, which is twice as likely))/4 = 12.19g/day Summer: (11 x 50/54 (corn grown on 1st Summer) + 8 x 40/26 (hot pepper grown on 1st) + 90/6 (radish) + 25/4 (wheat))/4 = 10.93g/day Fall: (160/8 (artichoke) + 4 x 50/26 (corn grown on 1st Fall) + 5 x 60/25 (eggplant grown on 1st) + 320/13 (pumpkin))/4 = 16.08g/day Bonus Ginger Island! (note that regrow crops don't die): (3 x 50/4 (blueberries) + 250/12 (melon) + 300/7 (pineapple) + 220/13 (rhubarb))/4 = 29.53g/day I could try and spin it as 'oh the spring and fall ones are actually more profitable than the wild crops' but let's be honest: just plant any freebies you get, at least in Y1, wild or mixed. They're FREE. (Later years you may want to hold onto mixed seeds for Fiber Seeds).

I love finding carrots in spring, at the start of the game.

i still want to ride a Ostrich like the Horse

Im on console, so i can't even play 1.6😢😢😢😢😢😢😢

I agree that a lot of the new seeds are very under rated. Good thing we have Sal to teach everyone!

The random carrots I got during normal play gave a huge burst to energy before salmonberry season, previously I had to conserve my food for future days watering but carrots left me with loads of leftover food when week 3 came.

I have been using the summer squash as my main energy source ever since I got them 😅 (just about to end year 1!)

I love them for energy, and added crop variety, which I think is the main thing.

The powder melon can be used to craft the farmer pants. Much easier than crafting from a pinapple or strawberry. The others you just need to wait and play the game, wild plum and cranberries. The powerdermelon seeds are orange color dye. I be working on a wardrobe in stardew to pimp myself out for the wife and to go to events in game. Plus its not an aspect I ever messed with.

Carrots rlly are a life saver during my new run. I'm in year one and my energy is often quickly depleted so having these extra crops help a lot with that + fill in empty plot spaces!

I really like Powder Melons. Gives me something to grow in winter and they just look really pretty.

Carrots were nice as quick growing crops that were randomly given. It felt like a little gift and let me plant in the last few days of spring.

I can get more winter seeds if i just use the winter root in a seed maker, then i sell the flower, put the crystal fruit into kegs and keep the winter yam as my carry around if i need energy and health if i go into the mines, cavern or dungeon im in fall of year too and i still have a little over 100 winter yams in my inventory while i have 200 + winter seeds next to my seed maker waiting to be planted.

one of my issues when starting a farm is the energy consumption, even when the sauna opens my farmer is always on the verge of collapsing from a heart attack from overwork, carrots are a godsent, the ammount of energy they give is high and goes beyond with silver quality and on, they are also really easy to find in bulk in the mines, now every spring my farm morphs into a carrot farm

For Year 1, the only free energy items that come close to carrots are the fishing jellies. Which sell for more than carrots if you just need raw energy.

I like Carrots for easy energy, and its nice to have something to plant in winter but i never felt a need for the other 2

You can put forages in preserves jars now!

Pickled broccoli was my reliable energy source in the mines during winter.

The seeds for the next season actually crop up as early as the 22nd of each month, which is when you can start harvesting your daily tea! So, you really do have a full week to get next season's seeds. Including barrels and boxes in any mine or the volcano!

I love the new seeds. Not everything needs to be a game-breaking min-max exploit, but, like you said, carrots legitimately rule.

i had noooo idea you could plant powdermelons without a greenhouse in winter!! i got So Many seeds in winter and hadnt unlocked the greenhouse in year 1 so i didnt use them 😭 now i know better

I just wish we got recipes with the new crops. Carrots and broccoli especially - those are so versatile in cooking! Also, carrots are OP.

Forgeables can go into preserve jars/kegs too though?

Ive been using powdermelons to dye my clothes! They're strong in dye strength but other than that that's about all I use them for 😅

I’m not 100% sure this is a new feature or not, but some forage can be used in Kegs and Preserves Jars. This would cut into the amount of seeds you could replant, but we’re also trying to profit off of these Edit: You can also place the forage required for Wild Seeds into a seed maker to obtain them easier

When i saw how much energy the carrots give i was really choked,its no expense high reward crop,of course for the late game it isnt but the first year or two is amazing. The other ones are allright,but the winter poder just for beeing a winter crop is good.

I use broccoli to fill my kegs when I don't have anything else to put in, Broccoli juice is a pretty great energy item for the minimal amount of effort you put into getting it

Can you tell me what is the best spring crop? Other than strawberrys, ancient fruit and coffee?

I think the reason to make giant powdermelons is so you can get more powdermelon seeds.

Carrots are amazing for the early game, and Powder Melons are growable in Winter. Even if the Squash and Broccoli to me feel underwhelming, the other two 100% see use from me. I think thats great Edit: Also Powdermelon made me actually want to plant Winter Seeds, which i used to not do. Having both to help out with farming and Foraging EXP while making some money is pretty awesome, and im glad i now do that

I just like having a bunch of different crops. Used to run the PPJA More Crops mod but now I have Cornucopia

They all are just really pretty as well! Really great for aesthetic farm builders like me!

I think carrots are also super helpful for getting your farming skill up in early game. They give you the same amount of XP per harvest as parsnips (8), but in half of the time. As someone who sets it and forgets it in terms of their cropfield at the start of a season, I can now easily break farming level 4 in the first spring.

I actually noticed how nuts the carrots energy was when I came back I was like no way does eating 2 of these give me all my energy.

given that half the crops in spring have 4, 6 or 12 day growth cycles, and you're likely to have a bunch of empty patches come day 25, carrots are a great way to fill out all that extra space and give you something to do for those last 3 days.

I think that one place that these items really shine is with the new buff to preserved products that makes it so that you get both health & energy from jellies and pickles. For fruits, using a preserve jar is a flat doubling of its base health & energy, which means the only time you're losing out on energy is when you're preserving iridium quality crops. It's a similar story for vegetables, but there you lose out at gold quality instead. Pickled carrots give around 130 energy per jar, making it probably the best energy source you can get for spring year 2.

I think they all do something special, but we have not discovered it yet. We know that carrots give a day-long speed boost to your horse, but we don't know what the others do yet.

I’ve been playing a new 1.6 farm with remixed bundles and ended up getting broccoli in the fall crops bundle. I could not find those dang seeds for the life of me. Halfway through the season and I still hadn’t found a single one. I ended up getting a single crop spot and only had 3 broccoli for the whole season. I had gotten red cabbage from the merchant so I thought my year 1 community Center would be taken away by broccoli of all things.

thanks ❤