Are The SILENT HILL Movies Really That Bad? 

Maybe the human centipede series?

Work's of Argento?

Clockwork orange

You should talk about Treatsforbeasts's bizarre short films

can you talk about hell raiser?

A guy I used to be in a band with gave me a burned copy of the soundtrack. I listened to it on repeat for like 3 months straight. Akira Yamaoka is one of the best, most underrated composers of our time. I would love to see what he could do on a del Toro film.

Facts

The one thing that never really lost it's quality was the soundtrack, that because Akira Yamaoka made the soundtrack to basically every SH game up to Shattered memories

I think everyone who has played the games, or even just watched the movies, can agree that the soundtracks are masterfully executed, unique and beautiful.

My Heaven a bop

The Behind the Scenes for the 1st movie were great! They put so much thought and effort to the scenes, the characters, the monsters, and the visuals.

I'd still say they managed to keep a good chunk of the symbolism there, like when Pyramid Head stabs through the door and the beetles pour in which can easily be interpreted as forced penetration. Admittedly, I'm not a huge fan of the games but I've always loved the first movie and now defend it vehemently after watching GoodBadFlicks's video on it.

I LOVED the first (as a Silent Hill fanboy, but as a movie critic I agree)! I saw it 5 times in theaters, something I've never done in my life! The sequel...there was no sequel in my eyes. 🤫 But I am very happy to hear Christophe Gans plans on making another Silent Hill film in the near future!

While I'll admit that the 1st film had cinematography and great atmosphere of a silent hill nature...the plot is kinda dumb. I know anyone would accuse me of hating simply because "It didn't adapt fully from the 1st game" well no cause that would be boring as I already did the game so changes can be good if executed great. What lost me was the back and forth of Cheryl oh wait Sharon I'm sorry having both parents alive so we can see what Rose is doing then cut to Chris (who's played by a not dying Sean Bean) is doing this breaking the tense atmosphere from Rose. We take away a cult trying to impregnate a little girl with psychic powers to birth a god...to witch burning.

@@renegadedjinn5325 to be fair, the Sean Bean scenes were forced afterthoughts from execs who thought there was too much focus on the women in the movie

It’s kinda weird that the movie didn’t have any male characters originally since the first movie was based off of the game about a father looking for his daughter.

@@pathetic2399 They felt like a mother going to these lengths to save her child would be more believable than a dad doing it. I mean...if they let Harry be the main character, problems solved. There are plenty of stories about single mothers, why not a single dad? Sean Bean could have pulled it off nicely.

@@pathetic2399 true that. Although it suits the films theme of motherhood a lot. It would have been so much stronger, if it wouldn't have been for these overly tedious Sean Bean scenes. Or at least if it wouldn't have focused so heavily on them

If only the game had a male character that appeared throughout the whole thing.

Amanda Flowers wow that’s not sexist at all. Heaven forbid fathers actually care about their children.

That's creepy

Alma... Like in F.E.A.R.?

@@mcduck844 Alma, fire... Everything checks out.

Preach!

Yeah, the janitor had greenscreened legs but was still a cool effect I thought. I didn't know the nurses were practical effects though, that's cool to know!

The fog filled town was also, in fact, a real set. Most of the movie is practical, only the impossible stuff was done via CGI.

The film honestly has the same problem as final destination 4-here I think the effects work to its advantage because the uncanny valley of the effects being real but not so at the same time feels genuinely disturbing in the back of the mind. The problem with the practical effects they are either edited weird like with the creature with no arms (sorry I don’t know most of the creature names) or it feels like CGI was layered so much onto them that it ends up feeling fake. Final destination 4 uses the same technique for effects in final destination 2 and for some reason they look more fake in the fourth film than the second one even though it’s the same techniques which makes wonder what the fuck happened? I feel like they tried to have the nurses be real but they added some editing tricks and effects to make it more uncanny making the CG feel off and either it works for you or it doesn’t-it either works to be uncanny and creepy or feels fake depending on how much the uncanny valley affects you. So to some extent I agree-but I feel they added some shit in post that made it look worse. The dude with no arms is the best comparison because they sprayed real black liquid onto the actress like in the film but in the actual scene it ends up looking fake and digital….

all the monsters hybrid effects, every single one was performance artist in a suit/makeup but with CGI overlay, I think that was more to blend them in with the green screen background

And Laurie Holden as Cybil Bennett was really great. I like movie Cybil almost more than game Cybil. Only almost, because game Cybil is so open and honest. She's a huge breath of fresh air in the confusing plot. She's the only character besides Harry in the whole game that doesn't have some kind of shroud around them. Movie Cybil is a strong (literally and figuratively) badass, but game Cybil is strong and reassuring.

The first movie had brilliant behind the scenes parts. Mainstream Hollywood is only just starting to go back to practical effects but the first Silent Hill movie was using real people in costumes way back in 2006 at the height of tacky CGI. Everyone playing the monsters, from Pyramid Head to one of the tiny Asian ladies playing the twisted child demon things seemed to really enjoy their time on the set and the costumes and makeup were just brilliant. Love how the guy playing Pyramid Head is just on stilts the whole time, but it works IMO. All the human characters on the other hand were just kinda "meh" - but my sister and cousin (32 and 33 now) still get freaked out on foggy days after watching it years ago whenever the foghorns are sounded at the nearby river XD

The creature design that was just stolen from the games and heavily misused? Right, got it.

@@Luna-Fox watch ur mouth

@@Luna-Fox stolen? I bet you’d be mad if they made original monsters as well

Blasphemy!!!

He died in the secuel tho *spoiler*

@@357Striker no he didn't. He stayed in silent hill to find his wife

National Treasure?

Bless him. The poor man has died at least... what, 72 times?!

They were practical but had cgi layered over them in a few places. It's a really weird, jarring look.

@@claewilson8234 and it looks or far more dated because of it and unnecessarily makes it look cheaper, but this was rather common for horror this era of horror files in the 2000s. This was a dark time for horror movies as so many of them were just lazily developed and produced

Joshua Chap The grey children were the only ones that had any cgi layering done in post

@@IvanTheDarkAngel iirc, The Lying Figure had it's legs trimmed down in post, too. And they removed the air tube that allowed the actor to breathe, as well as the tube for the goo.

SomeRandomJackAss Reach harder

This, the fps sequence from Doom (along with The Rock’s “Carmac’s condition is irreversible” speech, *chef’s kiss* cinema genius), the music and a few scenes from the first Resident Evil, oh and Sonic wasn’t the worst. Those are, quite frankly, tiny chunks of…not gold, maybe silver? In a sea of utter shit.

The lore was "insane" ? You mean how they completely changed the origin of just about everything? The monsters? You mean how they have absolutely none of their thematic weight or presence? Why is Pyramid Head here? Why are the bubble-headed nurses here? Silent Hill doesn't just make up the same bogeymen for everyone in the town. Those were specific to Silent Hill 2 and had specific meanings within that game. Outside of Silent Hill 2 they are hollowed out fan service. Yeah, visually, musically, and even to a certain extent thematically it's a good try, but some people wax hyperbole to an extreme over this movie.

​@@OpenMawProductionswhat's wrong with some fan service

⁠@@sophiecooper1824fanservice is perfectly fine, especially when you can utilize it well. In a good movie, fanservice can be a fun nod and wink to the audience that doesn’t detract too much from the movie but can add some extra bonus for people to do the Once Upon a Time in Hollywood DiCaprio meme. In a bad movie, it’s not only distracting and annoying but it’s a desperate grasping at straws to try and say “See? Look! It’s a thing you recognize! That makes it good”. Or, in as many words, good fanservice is a little extra zing to what’s already there, and bad fanservice is either a substitute for a whole meal or a desperate attempt at covering up the foul aftertaste with last-minute garnishes. Including Pyramid Head to appease fans is just cheap and adds nothing to the story-just like he added NOTHING to Origins, and nothing to Homecoming, and was UTTERLY WORTHLESS in Revelations; at least games like Downpour took the concept and reworked him into a similar role but under a completely new and more flexible identity.

Ummm literally same lmao. Im like yo... I couldn't even imagine having to be in a place like that. It gave me anxiety to the max watching her go through it, and imagining, what if that was me lol? All I kept thinking was.. im glad it's not me 🤣.

If the film cut down the runtime and cut all the between stuff with Sean bean besides at the beginning and ending-I would feel it would come across better. There is a fan edit called Silent Hill Restless Dreams which makes the film a nice 90 minutes and makes you feel like it’s a rollarcoaster through hell with no breaks. It cuts some cringe lines-cuts the cold open to keep the mystery of what you are about to experience in tact without even a hint of what’s about to happen-cuts the ending to just them heading home out of the fog with a call to Sean bean. And the film cuts all the shit with Sean bean in the middle that takes us out of the hellish landscape. Besides Sean beans scenes in the middle were only added because the studio felt an essential male character was needed and that the person playing rose couldn’t carry a film on her own-they even state this in behind the scenes.

I also disagree with the idea that we feel for Harry at the end of SH1. Dude was barely human. Plus, SH1 isn't about Harry, it's not his story.

@@toprak3479 Yeah tbh I feel more for Rose than I do Harry. Ik it’s just because of the time and how games were back then, but.. Harry sounds and feels like a robot lol.

Except she is the reason her daughter was put in that mess.

I was about to comment this exact thing, lol. Saying it's aged badly when it's actual people in costumes... mate. :'D

i knew some fan would already say this :D bless

also, the creepy movements would usually be done by the dancers walking backwards and things like that, only for the footage to be played in reverse. In that way the jagged, unnatural motions came to be.

I would say MOST of them were real. I still love the first Silent Hill

They layered them with cgi and effects that ruined the practical effects though. THAT'S what didnt age well.

@L Franco YOU ARE TEARING ME APART, LISA!

Yeah, he walked right into that one, lol.

Hi doggy.

If the first movie is Downpour, the second would have to be... the pachinko Silent Hill. Practically the textbook definition of a cash grab video game movie.

While The Room was a little lacking in some areas, I loved the story and wished it got more love.

The second one is great if you enjoy riffing bad movies with friends. Pyramid head does save the day, after all.

I haven't seen the second movie. SPOILER ALERT (Silent Hill 2 is over twenty years old but it is too good to spoil.) Silent Hill 2 had some aggressive hugging in it as well.

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Same, I had never played the games because at the time I had been too afraid, but for some reason movies didn't bother me as much so I took a chance on this one. I'm pretty sure I understood every part of it just fine without having to know the Deep Lore in the games. Like I got that Pyramidhead was a manifestation of violence and guilt, that the monsters were part of her nightmare, etc. Isn't that kind of the point of making a video game movie? To give the fans an abridged story of the games to enjoy while bringing in new fans without alienating them? If they had gone heavier into the psyches of the characters and the origins of each monster, it would have needed to be a much longer, messier movie. I definitely don't see the whole "ego" thing Ryan talks about when I see behind the scenes footage of everyone who worked on this film. They were all so passionate and dedicated to making it happen. What they wanted to do was give a basic idea of the games so that more people would check them out, not a 1:1 translation, and I think they did a damn good job of it.

It's only difficult to understand if you're trying to connect it to the games instead of watching it at face value imo

not really. the entire story was explained in the flashbacks. the only thing people were probably confused about was why was sean bean even in the movie and the ending

The movie's plot was kinda fucked up. I'm still trying to understand what sane parent thought it would be a great idea to take their clearly traumatized child to a town she has night terrors about - and be seen as the loving parent (while the parent who actually cares about the welfare of the child is seen as a villain because he wants to get medical professionals involved). At least in the game, Sheryl didn't have nightmares about the town - she and Harry were just heading there for a vacation.

Never played the games either, but watched gamelays. I think the story is simple, kinda, but the symbology of the enemies and general themes is the confusing thing, at least in my opinion. I still can't understand why they used Pyramid Head in the movies, when everybody says was a symbology of Harry's personal nightmares, but well, fanservice is more powerful I guess

First is completely OK to be not bad . But the second one was unnecessary imo

Great? No. The imagery is ok but the acting is awful and they entirely missed the point.

I agree. Havent played the game and I dont care if it supposedly “missed the point” (whatever the hell that means), but as a horror movie it works great. It has an engaging story, great atmosphere and good acting.

@@alj6194 As in the writer and the director had little to no understanding of the lore or what made the games scary while claiming to be fans. Is that simple enough or should I try again via a audio file full of grunts and garbled jabber?

@@inthedeadhours You are already just grunting and jabbling. Was there any doubt about it? However, as I said, I don't give two fucks about the games, haven't played them, I'm judging it as a movie, and as a horror/fantasy movie it's pretty awesome.

Ryan's had a few bad takes lately.

Usually I agree or at least understand where he is coming from but I think this is the first time I have just whole heartedly disagreed with his take on a horror film.

He’s a pretentious dweeb who rarely has any clue what he’s talking about

Literally no one is disagreeing in this thread and it just shows that he goofed

Yes, I like it as well. Screw the second one.

Yes! I liked it too

agreed!

Ok thats a bit overboard The movie is a 6/10 at best

@@RobertEdwinHouse9 I said "my favorite" not "the best"

the town was real, the actors just weren't physically there. they green screened them in the give an ethereal look, which didn't end up working to great

Same with the nurses, they are real but they have been green screened. It’s often done due to a lack of faith in practical effects. Marvel is very bad for this and it results in money not being well spent.

@@caoilfhionndunbar Well someone was there acting up a storm

Must be a bit cool tho, to know you grew up in silent hill ;) Always thought of visiting the town as i liked the passion i saw in the movie, and have respect for them trying to scare people trough atmosphere, rather than silly jump scares.

ZigZag2000 The nurses were shot on a set... there’s behind the scenes footage... wish yall would just stop making stuff up

I agree with you, the first one was awesome, the second was terrible, but still watchable and kind of likeable. :)

I loved the first one. Saw it in theaters and was scared shitless when the air raid sirens went off.

Agree. There was effort put into the first one for sure and it is a good movie.

@Maegnil Dianians how so? The plot was basically the same as the first game though with a few changes.

Agreed. There was a whole behind the scenes dedicated to the makeup and costume team.

If there's one thing they've done right. Comparing nurses from second movie to nurses for the first one, they look really pathetic. My guess is they didn't have budget to hire professionals who actually can stand still.

Obviously that's not what he's referring to. He's talking about the CGI environments.

This was one of my biggest issues with the first movie. They had a pretty amazing practical effects team and the monster actors put a ton of work in and a lot of that work did get CG’d over. Like with the babies they got a tiny actor in this super detailed suit and then they were like “Nvm cover it all up with fire and shit”

He literally said that over a clip of a group of cgi monsters burning...

To be fair not even Twin Perfect gets it right, what with their BS hairsplitting about the dark world

It’s annoying how you have people say it’s simple but they actually miss the whole point

Exactly

I mean, the guy (Ryan) says the film is "noticeably green screen" when the facts of the production are there, be it on the DVD features or even online, yet he calls it "pretentious" without having an ounce of the understanding of (let alone love for) the franchise the director put into this adaptation. RU-vidrs criticizing stuff I like, I can handle and openly celebrate the exchange of ideas. RU-vidrs who don't even do their research or at least get their facts straight tearing apart something, even if I don't personally enjoy that something, is the definition of what's wrong with literary/film/game criticism in the first place.

@@DarthLobitou so much this. Hell James A Janisse did research for Final destination 4 even though he hated it because he wanted to know why the effects were shit and found out they used the same techniques that looked so good in the second film-he literally asks what the hell happened here? It’s the same thing here but he didn’t bother to do research into how the effects were done which aren’t that hard to find. But yeah your sentiment-I 100 percent agree with. I don’t mind people having their personal issues but when they say shit about particular aspects of a production or say there is a plot hole when there isn’t one-it deserves to be called out cause it wrongly puts objective flaws onto something where it doesn’t belong.

Actually did not like that - especially after genderswapping the protagonist just to give us a sexist line. Why the mothers? Overall young children look up to both their parents, so the focus on mother was pointless and it felt like they made the father a mother just for that. Also: it's not even some kind of universal truth, many parents will tell you that, that they feel more like the opposite, especially when the child isn't a few years old anymore. I get the idea behind it, though the should have followed it in a different, more meaningful way.

@@miriamweller812 Sexist? Yeah the mother being the parent who usually overtakes most of the household tasks and parenting duties early on a child's life, is sexist. I agree FULLY with you. Besides pregnancy, breastfeeding, and carrying the newborn and baby for their first months is a huge task, mothers do also household duties and sometimes they have to work after their pregnancy; although in this movie, we are taking about a non-biological mother. Surely the mother figure will all the factors I stated before HAS NO INFLUENCE on how children view their mother 🤣🤣 Both parents carry out their duties but we can't deny that in MOST heternormative households, the attachment a child has to their mother is different than with their father, at least for a few years. For many children, their mother is everything, and for many women, their role as mothers absorbs them so much that their own identities are lost in it.

What stuck with me (and is tbh the only thing I remember from the movie lol) is Alessa going to town on the cult by the end of the movie. Having her get back at them for all the crap they put her through was freaking AWESOME, one of the most cathartic moments ever. They deserved every bit of it.

tbh it works a lot in the movie's favor. changing the theme to womanhood/motherhood creates a stronger emotional plot than copying the original game's lore. Sure, it has some flaws (how the nurses and pyramid head are symbolically irrelevant to the plot, though they still look cool regardless), but it definitely feels like a real Silent Hill story and experience.

​​​@@miriamweller812might be wrong but isn't that's from the game? Edit: Yeah that's definitely a line in the game and it's because birth and rebirth are the whole point of the game And mothers are the ones who give birth Even If it isn't it is still a legit quote that is used to explain how important mothers are too thier children in a kinda their whole world. Think in the terms of ancient mother goddesses All the mothers In this movie share a similar role to their game counterparts, with the exception of Alyssa's adoptive mother, They pretty much kick off a lot of the stuff that happens which result the curse. I think having the adopted mother also played a Central role kind of just makes sense As "Mother is the name of God in the eyes of every child "(OG quote) kinda being the tag line. Even bad Alyssa is , in a convoluted supernatural way the mother of good Alyssa. Changing one character's gender to fit into a motive that's running throughout a narrative has absolutely nothing to do with the with the woke Hollywood. Disclaimer I am in full support of inclusivity of race, sexuality and gender but Hollywood's idea of being inclusive is just bad, uncaring, and all about making money you can tell when it's just performatives and behind the scene just didn't truly care Which always results in hamfisted misinformed bad representation for all involved.

Honestly, this is the way to do it. Silent Hill *really* feels like it's supposed to be a chronicle of different people's personalized encounters with the town, and that's good horror anthology material.

ghostbearlabs Yep, good idea

@@ghostbearlabs omg an anthology is exactly what it needs!

Well, follow-up question I guess. What'd be your dream team for writers and directors on that sort of project? Personally I'd love to see either Jennifer Kent, Mike Flanagan, or Jordan Peele take a shot at an actual licensed Silent Hill thing, since they're all so close to its themes already. But I'm curious which names automatically snap into other people's heads.

There are rumors about Sony to produce new Silent Hill projects

#fuckonami

Well, Christophe Gans confirmed on a French website he's working on a reboot after completing Fatal Frame's adaptation, so it's coming back.

Konami is Konami and Konami is the worst

@@Everan614 Oh god why a Fatal Frame adaptation?

What do you think of The Medium ? It's not a Silent Hill game, but it doesn't hide it's inspiration from the series. Especially by hiring the music composer they had and probably telling him "can you make it sound more Silent Hill ?"

I agree. Also it's Harry. James is the second game's protagonist

Silver Moons whoops! Harry duh!!!

James? lol "I got a letter... it's from my daughter... short, black hair... She would've turned 7 a few months ago had she not died because of that illness." Meanwhile... "Have you seen my wife? Short, blonde hair, just died last week..."

Ehh. I can see where it comes from, but I still personaly think that the movie would've been better if it was Harry mason. I don't think anything will ever be able to top Harry's constant "Have you seen a little girl?" Edit: I definitely see the bond. I just personally think I liked it better with Harry mason. And I think the fact they thought a mom searching for her daughter was more believable than a dad searching for his daughter is BS.

I am not a parent but I agree with you. Their relationship was amazing!

How?

@@andrewkrylov1501 With how much of a hot pile of trash it is, obviously

yes! this!

YES!

Yoooooo!! I agree. A fantastic movie!

Showed that to my wife recently. She was blown away

Teague K That is a fantastic movie.

Twin Peaks is Silent Hill

@@FrenchToast663 Deadly Premonition as well.

It would be shit. He would go too far on the wankiness.

I’m sure Guillermo del toro would be a better fit

what about a Silent hill movie directed by Sam Raimi

He dies two times in second movie, but in a dreams.

It's a good movie. Tho he didn't die either in Jupiter Ascending, that's another story

That's totally why it was not received so well. People wanted to see Sean Bean die, and they did not get it.

Lol maybe he demanded that his character stay alive this one time

What do you mean, the director had one of the few copies of Silent Hill in France? The game was a big success in Europe, all the French video game magazines gave it great scores and it sold well over here. Bought it right when it came out, I still remember the crazy hype... It had a full French translation via text, unlike Resident Evil 1 for example, which didn't even bother to translate it in French to release in on the PSX and Saturn.

@@randallflagg3700 In the Shout Factory release, the supplemental features include different interviews about the film production, cinematography, and additional artworks related to the film. In that material, it mentioned that the PS1 game was released in extremely low numbers in France. Less than 600 copies for a population of 60 million in 1999.

@@ShaneyElderberry - Damn, in one of the big French video games magazines (Joypad, or Console+ maybe) they wrote something about the game winning some kind of "Gold" award for its great sales in Europe, I mean, Silent Hill was even re-released in *Platinum* edition, which was a great initiative reserved for games that sold more than 400 000 copies and had been out for more than 6 months... I'll look it up and come back to this post, but 600 copies? When it came out I wasn't even living in France, but in a French colony, New-Caledonia... and just in Nouméa I knew several other teenagers who had bought it, attracted by the "like Resident Evil, but not really" survival-horror theme, and excellent critics everywhere. That would be weird as hell, I'll look it up; but thanks fror the heads up.

@@randallflagg3700 Yes, my point is that in 1999, Gans bought one of the earliest copies of the game. Subsequent re-releases were offered later, of course. Gans attempted to make the film for five years, before the rights were finally approved by Konami.

The games looked amazing for their times. They still look pretty great. Also it’s kinda bad that he played the game but still thought that Harry should be a woman;;;

Thats how reviewers are they can be harsh sometimes

Yet again he admitted to not already liking Scary Stories to tell in the dark due to the hype train surrounding it. He needs to stick to obscure stuff much like Yourmoviesucks

As someone that really likes the first Silent Hill movie quite a bit, I have to say I am bothered by a few of the critiques that I have for it. For instance, I think it kind of sucks to be cursed with the knowledge of the rationale behind switching out Harry Mason for a Mom. Apparently someone felt a dad searching for their daughter was too feminine and had the character replaced. Ultimately the demographic of the parent doesn't matter all that much, and I'm fine with the decision, it's just distracting to be privy to the rationale and feels bad. Another thing that I don't particularly care for is the needless insertion of Pyramid Head. As someone that likes Silent Hill 2 quite a bit, it's very difficult for me to look at a character that has a lot of meaning and intent within their original context appearing out of place. He looked great though. Obviously it's not a problem for everyone, and I'm not saying the people that aren't bothered by it are wrong, but for me, it's very difficult to not be distracted by his appearance in the movie. Reflexively, I try to figure out if there is meaning in his appearance, or at the very least why the hell he's here. I don't think he really added anything thematically, and I sincerely doubt that there was a purpose in his appearance. Whether or not my guess that his appearance was a studio mandate is correct, I was very distracted by the things the movie was doing on purpose and I found that to be a detriment to my viewing. I still love this movie, but from my perspective it's riddled with flaws that seemed very easy to avoid and that were distracting to me. Again, I don't think people that aren't bothered by things in the movie are watching it wrong or anything lol. It's totally fine for a thing that is enjoyable to not be perfect. In fact, it's inevitable, nothing is perfect. Good things are every bit as worth criticizing as bad things are, if not more so. And while there's no accounting for taste, at the very least I agree with you that Ryan might have been a little harsh.

@@zukiezuke From what I understand of the production, the replacement of Harry with Rose was a decision made by Christophe Gans, as he wanted to tell a more "feminist" version of the story, or something along those lines. The feminist intent definitely becomes a lot more noticeable when you remember that the _only_ reason Sean Bean is in the movie is because the studio sent an angry note that "there are no men in this movie", that's why the Sean Bean subplot is so, noticeably jarring. As for the monsters and Pyramid Head, yeah, as a fan it's pretty jarring when you see them and know the specific psychological reasons why those creatures existed in that particular game, but at the same time, Silent Hill 2 was the one with the more iconic monsters, so I can understand why they'd draw on those designs over the skinned dogs and gargoyles from the first game. It's still one of, if not _the_ , best cinematic adaptation of a video game, and the things that are mostly bringing it down definitely appear to have been things the studio demanded be put in the movie.

I know right? Especially since the movie put so much emphasis on motherhood and the likes. It would have worked beautifully without these Sean Bean scenes and a different ending

Forcing motherhood into the story ended up destroying the message the game had. The fact that the movie creators felt a father could never love or care about his child like a mother could ( and how all male figures are rapists apparently) is freaking ridiculous.

@@IWasaTeenageTeenWolf part of the reason motherhood was so prominent in the movie was to compare Alessa's relationship with her abusive, religious zealot willing to sacrifice her child in an awful way mother to Sharon's mom, who braved silent hill to save her daughter, and also helped Alessa get her revenge in the process. The movie wasnt saying "men cant be good parents" it was saying "look at the huge difference between these two mothers, one risked her life to save her child and bring another peace while the other wanted to sacrifice her child by burning her to death" It is an *adaptation* of silent hill, it doesnt have to copy the story beat for beat.

@@IWasaTeenageTeenWolf Yeah, Harry Mason MADE silent hill 1, did you ever notice that silent hill 1 is the only(to my knowledge) silent hill game that the enemies running around the town weren't created by the negative attributes of it's protagonist?

@@Glitchy1988 well, 3 and 4 too. 4. are Walters monsters

Doesn’t make it good though, just stick to the first 4 games, they do a much better job than the first movie ever could.

@Hung Low It's a revelation for some people

I wonder how this guy can do a review on this movie with all these assumptions and not know any of these facts? The crew also consisted of top-tier set and monster designers. Shame that people dismiss all of this because the story wasn't a 1:1 adaptation.

@ULGROTHA Yeah, the movie still looks amazing to me!

The reason that one shot looked green-screened was because the fog was added in post, too. The town was real, but they added fog later because how are you going to get dense fog in outdoor shots? Technically, you can argue that the so-called "out of place CGI that hasn't aged well" adds a bit to the visual style. The point of Silent Hill is to make you feel uncomfortable, and apparently for movie-goers and critics something looking fake makes them uncomfortable. Part of the horror is confronting something "unreal," like the mannequin monsters and people who look exactly like people you know.

I can't figure it out. I went back to look at the movie tonight. Because I saw everyone mentioning it was practical, not cgi. But no matter how hard I'm looking it still looks cgi, even though it is mostly practical. I wonder what it is that makes it look like that, when they had such great vfx artists.

@@coldstuff9784 Because he's talking out of his ass most of the time. He wants a direct replica of the game put to film and - based on his arguments to criticize it - seems to have very little understanding of how Silent Hill came to be. Talking about bad cgi when most of the stuff are done with real actors, practical effects and camera trickery. You can't have a live action adaptation of Silent Hill without Pyramid Head in it.

Hey its alessa unles it correct you on there, this is the plushie home and there are two of us me and eli. Im a girl my brother is a boy eli. My name is alessa i was named from that movie. My brother made the plushie home up.

Except Pyramid Head shouldn't be in this, or any monster from SH2 for that matter

If i'm correct, the film's version of the town was inspired by Centralia, not the game The fog in the was inspired by "The Mist" and the fact that the PS1 couldn't render the city all at once, so they had to hide the draw distance behind the fog. A lot of ps1 games use fog effects to hide the draw distance, but Silent Hill did it best The movie even mentions a fire in the city, just like Centralia's fire, while the games make no mention of this.

@@rickydo6572 Ahh, I always heard that the games were based on the town, but being based on "The Mist" makes more sense with all the horrible creatures and such. Thanks for the correction.

Yeah I was about to say the same when he said that the town being a former coal mining town where the mine caught on fire was a "standard horror movie trope". It's probably one of the better parts of the adaptation since usually you couldn't go "oh an abandoned town eternally burning and covered in smoke, we've got one of those in the States!". Centralia is a really creepy place- not that you should go there even if you could find your way (they took its name off the maps and the highway sign). You'd fall into a sink hole. www.vg247.com/2020/03/19/real-silent-hill-centralia/ Check out this article to see some pictures including "Silent Hill PA" graffiti

Disinformation is scary. I know in some ways this is meaningless trivia, but look how many people upvoted this before the guy accepted the correction.

@@futurestoryteller I mean I'd put this more in the "video game urban legends" than disinformation. It's certainly worth mentioning that it was based on a specific place in America for the movie

I agree, the first movie wasn't a masterpiece but definitely better than the second one, also the third games main player was a woman

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Exactly

I honestly thought the first one was absolute garbage that missed the core appeal of the games. The second was a huge improvement and had some great casting.

The first movie was ok, but I never knew there was a second one. Is it bad that I thought the first Restident Evil movie was better than Silent Hill?

Both of them are Shit, and neither did justice to the franchise. 🤮👎

The movie is a better than the game.

@@andrewkrylov1501 lol NOT even close. You can't even compare them AT ALL as the movie is a joke and the game is actually great!

@@Gadget-Walkmen NO

@@andrewkrylov1501 YES! What you’re saying is just massively wrong.

@@Gadget-Walkmen you are just a simp for Heather. I am gay therefore more objective for this case.

Still isn't a good movie

@@blankieplays1350 it’s better than most people give it credit for.

@@phoebe4871 fair enough

@@blankieplays1350 youre right its a great movie

It’s alright if you look at it as it’s own movie. But it’s a shallow representation of the games. Maybe I’m too much of a fanboy...

Get this it was cause the "lack of a male lead"...yeah not like Silent Hill had any male leads. Also the reason the director made the lead a woman was cause in the first game Harry "acted like a woman" while searching for his daughter. Like a father wouldn't have that love for his daughter. Harry going through hell to get his daughter back was a great character traits of him and him being protective of Sybil and Lisa, yeah that's a man's nature, we protect those we care about.

Silver Spade That’s ridiculous, I’d like to have a little talk with the Director

Good gosh there were some sexist and stupid decisions made in that movie. Cut Rose, make Sean Bean Harry Mason and have him search the town with Cybil. There, a solid male-female duo with some minor romantic tension that hits Hollywood's quotas and streamlines the cast. Why was this so hard for them to grasp?

David Anderson I want a Director’s cut with most of the Sean Bean scenes removed

@@renegadedjinn5325 The sexism was going both ways with the creative team.

But Silent Hill IS cult shit.

@@Mafon2 SH2 had nothing to do with the cult and it's considered the best Silent Hill game. And I agree with zero punctuation.

@@coldstuff9784 Well, SH2 is a black swan of the original quadrilogy. And even it has it's ties with the cult.

@@Mafon2 It wasn't about the cult, is the thing. I also love how you call it a quadrilogy because I also agree with that. :)

@@coldstuff9784 Peace.

I gotta agree... Lately he has become too pretentious and ultra ''analytical'' about things that in the end do not give true substance. Kinda like Lars Von Trier. Wink wink.

I thought I was crazy for feeling that way after watching a handful of his reviews lately.

I'd agree, he really was nit picking. However will back him in one way... Doom the film sucked, Witcher series sucks, I'm not looking forward to STALKER the film (cause i love the games). Why? Cause none of them stick to the game lore... It seems our host for this review really was a fan of Silent Hill the game before the movie arrived and has that "It's not the game" mind set. I can understand that.

I don't play TES:online! Why? Cause the have to appeal to the masses and destroy the lore already created in order to appeal to the mass market because the need a return on their investment. SH the film is the same.

@@ElectronicPleasure I am a long time fan of the games but i can still appreciate what the movies were going for even though neither turned out so great. When making a video game movie you are very likely to be damned if you do/damned if you don't. For example, the first movie tried to stay true to the source material while including alot of new ideas which made it more messy than it needed to be.

And Sean is known for dying in films too

Exactly what I think, everytime videogames to film adaptations comes into discussion, I always bring this one up, it's just soo good.

Same out of all the video game adapted movies. I think this is the best but I also have a few other favorites as well Silent Hill Mortal Kombat ( most of it cuz of the nostalgia but I watched it the other day and I still love the 90s cheesy lines and the fight scenes are still dope especially Lui Kang vs Reptile) Rampage ( I though the monsters looked dope and I actually cared about George and the final fight was dope) Resident Evil ( I thought the first one was good especially the soundtrack. Watched it the other day and still enjoyed it, the other ones though....yeah, not so much)

@@Neocoolzero yeah! The games are obviously better, but the first film still captured the first game like no other video game adaptation ever has. The fog and other world, the tense atmosphere, some of the key monsters replicated well like Pyramid Head, similar characters and plot but changed for film in ways that I didn't actually find annoying. The sequel felt more like the later game sequels: more action and less scares, Pyramid Head being there for a silly reason which makes no sense in Silent Hill lore, etc..

Agreed :)

the creator of pyramid head has already said on twitter that it was *not* the inspiration and merely a coincidence.

I think he meant the movie is to clean for SH standards dude...

@@aluna1234 yes, & he proceed to talk about the games being the same after the third one. Like I said, I didn't dispute his remarks on the movies btw.

SH4 made me laugh. Monsters looked like they were from Castlevania or something, not Silent Hill

@@futurestoryteller The burping ones made me shake my head. The wheelchairs assaulting me also just made me laugh out loud. But legit parts of the game still haunt me to today.

exactly, the second one is awful :/

Agreed. The first is a pretty decent spin on SH1 even with my issues with it (also the odd inclusion of adding the Sean Bean scenes because there apparently wasn't enough male led scenes to execs). Rev goes nuts on retconning the first film to be more in line with the game while also ignoring a bunch of SH3, like vincent being a totally different character. Also Revelations has a pop tart jump scare so minus points for that off the bat.

Agreed. While I'm not in the camp of fandom for the first film, it's very well made and genuinely creepy at times. Revelations was written during a frat party and filmed during the proceeding hangover.

Why do people not like the second one? Are you too much of a sheep to form your own opinions?

@@TheSCPStudio Bruh, the final battle is a mildly peeved hug on flaming carousel.

100% agree. Called the first movies effects bad even though they’re practical, but compliments the CGI nightmare in #2? I am legitimately baffled

I don't think it's scary but I think it's cool.

Wait when he said pretentious why did he use the first scene with james and then the scene with Angela holding the knife I thought they were solid scene in the game proving that the quieter moments of the game are stronger in their own right and were more frightening then any scene with the monster those are good as well but I was more invested in why James is in silent hill in the first place and when u find our your like "oh shit"

Yeah. “Pretentious”.

@@JorgeGomez-hx5uu it’s not. Hate that word.

@@Gadget-Walkmen okay

The soundtracks were FROM the game.

Gregory House oh really? I assumed they were slightly different

Don't quote me on this. I believe the soundtrack was composed at least in part by the same person (Akira yamaoko?), but the soundtrack itself isn't the same.

@@DrGregoryHouseIT I believe it had to be altered for the movie (by someone credited as the music editor?). Might have been for legal reasons, I don't know, they do have some game tracks credited.

Because they used the music from the game itself, mostly from Silent Hill 2, instead of doing something inferior themselves. The same goes for monster design.

Mortal Kombat is but Silent Hill is a close second

Not a high bar you're setting there but I agree

I think DOA deserves an honourable mention. You can really tell that the creators really studied the source material and put in a lot of effort to capture the core appeal of the games. 😀

i agree. honestly, as someone going into watching the first one without ANY knowledge of the game or any of the history, the first one did something weird to me. hard to explain, like it changed me somehow.

@@glittersoop the first time I heard of it, i didnt even realize it was based off a game

And Miyamoto said he thought maybe the Mario Bros. movie was too much like the games - so what? I don't even think that's true. The development team doesn't give their blessing, the distributor does, and that's the infamous pachinko party that is Konami.

You know, I agree. After the crash they could have cut back to Sean Bean and ran most of his segments, 10, 15 min? With short clips of Rose walking by or being chased like the Perfume scene. Then back to her for most if the movie with clips of Bean just like her with the conclusion at the end.

Facts

I don't even think that's really an option :P HOW in the hell are you going to juggle several characters, that exsist inside other characters's stories, and THAT set around a house with a cave like insides. The only way you could ever do that is just focussing on Navi and skipping ALL the rest of the book ? no Zampano, no Johnny, just the Navi tapes. It's filmable (and could potentially even be a decent movie) but it has no real depth compared to the book.

Dennis Wijker yeah, exactly. Not to mention the little clues and patterns throughout the pages.

That is an impossible thing to adapt and I guess you are very apt in saying so. It's a very Interactive Book like Silent Hill is a pretty Interactive Game. The Nuance is something that cannot be argued over or watered down or altered. Another piece of unadaptable literature is the Berserk Manga. Even if House of Leaves was 14 an hour episodes long. It just wouldnt be anything like the book.

yeah the character changes are the only things that kind of irk me about the movie adaptations... another big one for me being how dahlia was the antagonist and abusive mother of alessa in the games but they portrayed her as a victim in the movie??

shannon g BIG TIME! I like the woman who played christabella could have done perfectly as dahlia if they put the characters where they should have been... AND sean bean as harry mason in the first place would have been perfect! Why not portray a man as a good father looking for his daughter? I have too many opinions haha

@@cmindovina I know right

I didn't mind them changing it until they said that. You can say it: it's sexism. And as it often does it insults by oversimplifying and stereotyping both men and women. It's also redundant. Sean Bean's role in the story is to look for his wife in Silent Hill, who is looking for his daughter in Silent Hill. So apparently he can love his wife enough to jeopardize his life, but not his daughter. It's also funny because how many scripts have "only men" in them anyway?

@J Yeah I gotta be honest, I'm not here to confirm your prejudices or conspiracy theories either. The director, personally, has outdated ideas about what constitutes "believable behavior" regarding the sexes. What anybody else does or does not do in Hollywood in that same vein is only tenously related, and likely just as personally held.

No no you've made me curious I wanna here it now

You summed up my primary issue with this adaptation. In world where the media loves to praise single mothers and rant about deadbeat dads, I loved a rare positive portrayal of a loving father who would go through literal hell to rescue his child, and it pisses me off that they went with yet another story that treats mothers as the end-all-be-all of parental devotion.