Are the SIX ZERO Diamonds TOO GOOD? (Paddle Review) 

Some of you guys may be wondering about these thermoformed paddles and the delaminating issues. I was going to originally talk about delamination as a whole in this review but out of fairness decided against it because I have witnessed and heard it happening to different paddles across different brands and I can't retcon any videos i've already posted previously. I personally don't believe this issue is as huge an issue as people tend to make it out to be but only time will tell how these companies handle these issues and if you have had experiences with delamination feel free to share your experiences in the comment section, be nice y'all 🙏

Hey Will, fantastic review! We must be on the same wavelength, because I'm writing the script for my review of these paddles, and it pretty much hits the same points as you. Good confirmation. Also, I always enjoy the production quality of your videos. Thanks for all the good work!

All I have to say is, all your reviews are so good really appreciate the time you put into these videos and you deserve way more subs keep it up! 👌🏼

I tried it for dbd 16mm for doubles game. I like the power, spin, control for drives. I find response little bit slow on volley and dinks may due to stiffness or i didnt warm up enough. I would probably prefer 14mm dbd

I just have one question - how long do you and Chris recommend microwaving them before hitting them with a mallet to get the face to delaminate? 🤣

DBD is my favorite paddle (I also own a legacy pro). I’d like for them to make one with a bit longer handle but I don’t mind the handle as is. I also added weight to 9/3 and it helped with stability

Their website said they will ship at the end of April. I used your discount code 😉. But they actually shipped the same day from within the US.

Love my Black Diamond. It takes a good amount of touch to tame but hits so crisp coming off the face, 8:21 which I like. I’d equate it to playing ping pong with the thin paddles with barely any cushion.

Hi Will, I just got forwarded an email for the triple black diamond? Not too much detail on it so far but it states elongated shape with longer handle? Any insight you can give since it’s called the ‘’Willanator” ? I was just going to purchase a ruby but will be waiting now i think.

One category I'd like to see reviewers start to use (or maybe include in the control category) is consistency in power. And what I mean by that is how intuitive the power is. Does the power feel linear -- if I swing twice as fast, does the ball feel like it comes off twice as fast. Or does the power feel more exponential - as I swing faster, the factor of speed off the paddle also increases. This is how I feel about the Black Diamond vs. the Legacy Pro, for example. The BD doesn't feel nearly as soft or plush, so one might call it a power paddle. But, it's power is very consistent and intuitive. Once you use it for a minute, you know how it will respond. The Legacy Pro, while much softer, feels harder to tame, because you don't quite know how the ball will come off it. So, while softer and plusher, it is not nearly as consistent as the BD -- and that factors heavily into control.

Great review! Which Carbon thermoformed paddle for power and balance is the best? Crbn 1x 16, Legacy Pro or the Black Diamond power?

Thanks for the great video! If I'm finding the DBD 14mm a little tough to control on touch shots, would adding lead tape help?

I just order the Black Diamond. My main paddle is the Forza but I just wanted to try this paddle out. Don’t know if I’ll switch from the Forza but it’ll be a good paddle to have in my bag.

I really like the dbd 16mm, but id like a little more power. Dbd 14mm or should i go with the bd?

Just ordered the double black diamond primarily for doubles and interested to see how this compares to my current paddle (Vulcan v740). Been waiting to try the thermo formed and carbon paddles and this seems to be in line with my playing style. Thanks for the code, and the review!

Great video! Ordered the DBD! End of May or early June for delivery! Will post after playing it!😯

These are dope paddles. Nice review Will! Unique stuff on the BD. I love that it’s different. Dale, the founder, equates it to a race car. It can really go but you need an excellent touch. DBD allows me to do everything with a little more forgiveness.

👌👏👏 4 stars out of 5 - Did not work for me. I tried the 14mm 6.0 double black but it did not work for me. Started getting heavy shoulder pain and elbow pain. My background is from league tennis 3.5 level in PB too. Having tennis elbow is usually expected for me but getting shoulder pain was horrible with this 6.0 paddle. I am taking a temporary 2 week break. I use Joola Hyperion and Ronbus paddles primarily. Loved this 6.0 paddle and it was a tough decision to return my 6.0 paddle.I did finally. Love the feel of the paddle otherwise. Please share any alternative paddle options within th 60 paddle family. I love the PB game and hope to play the game very soon. Thanks.

I wanted to see how much this paddle would cost to ship to me and I used your code to get the best price. I was really just trying to see the total cost and I accidentally ordered it because their website redirected to the shop app which had all my information. I have been trying to explain to my wife that it was an accident but not gonna pretend that I'm not exited for a new paddle

I have a Vatic Pro V7. Very poppy. I get a couple aces per game, if I am on. I got a Legacy Pro delivered yesterday. Here is the issue....the Legacy feels very soft. It feels like one of the OG CRBN 16mm to me. I know that Will and Chris talk about the Legacy having so much power and you mention it in this vid too. In my experience, no way. It is an absolute control paddle. So I am pretty confused. I expected more power than my Vatic, but it is the other way around. In general, what I feel when i play with a paddle you've reviewed is pretty close to the way you describe (Will), but not this time. You do a great job describing. Now, I am wondering if Legacy changed something. They sent e-mails about changes they made to mitigate de-lamination, so perhaps they did in fact make a change that affects how the paddle plays. You would have an earlier version, I presume. Also, after one use, the Legacy is rattling like a moracca. That's what happens when you have too much glue - it becomes dislodged and bits are floating around in the honeycomb. My Vatic is not de-laminated. Compared to others that friends have. Same sound. Same power. Oh and one more thing. People have said that the Legacy is so different, so poppy, it takes a long time to get used to and hard to switch back. That is also not my experience. I can switch between a CRBN1 16mm and the Legacy and they are very close. Switching to the Vatic requires some re-calibration, but not the Legacy. So confused.

DBD is a top notch paddle for the tech, price, quality, performance and durability. Good review!

Will !!! You two hand backhand is absolutely beautiful. I started pickling 2month ago and the backhands is my weakness, Im ambidextrous and need some work on the power from backline with the backhand. I bought the Solarie 14mm because of your review. I demo it with other 7 paddles and Love the paddle!! Keep up the great review 🎉🎉😂❤🎉😂❤🎉 Cheers from Tampa.

Man I love my Double Black Diamond. Thinking about grabbing the black diamond just for some extra power but my double is pretty powerful

DBD 14mm please my dude. Love your videos. Best is the biz. Play better!

Great reviews Will. Any update on these paddles now after using for another month? It sounded like you were leaning towards BD as your go to, or do you now favor the DBD?

How would you compare the dbd to the crbn 1x 16mm? And the BD to the crbn 1x 14mm?. This is like the main tiebreaker I need

Thanks for the reviews @PickleballWill I’ve come back to this video multiple times to read new comments. Sounds like you enjoy both the 14 DBD and the 16 DBD. Initially you said you preferred the 14 and in more recent comments you’ve said you like the 16. Could you clear this up for us please? I have both and have been using the 14 (Lead tape 3-9). I really like it but I just got my DBD 16 which I initially wanted but couldn’t get due to back order.

Just got my 6.0 double black diamond and liking it very much. However, having played with another paddle with shorter grip and more elongated face, I would prefer an option to have the same with 6.0…or maybe I can start working on my two handed backhand instead.

Nice review! You and Chris are the 2 of the best and I appreciate all the info you guys provide. I'm strongly considering the 6.0 DBD as my next paddle (replacing a Babolat RBEL Touch due to edge guard cracking). I feel the control I have with the Babolat has been excellent but getting to the point where I think I want a little more power but want to maintain quick reactions at the NVZ and not compromise control too much. I'm a intermediate 3.5 player. Any thoughts about whether the DBD would be a good choice? Also, is the colored edge tape you have on the paddle just colored electrical tape? Love the look with the bright green. Is there a brand you use?

Love my pink dbd, I call it Barbie, I have the legacy and prism, both great, Barbie does everything well, very balanced paddle!

Will, did your test cover the 14mm double black diamonds AND how does it compare to the Hyperion 14mm… Thanks.

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Hi Will, new to your channel and as newbie to pickleball (occasionally play with friends) I wanted to invest in a paddle, Was thinking of the vatica prism v7 but also seeing this DBD which I also like, which would you recommend for a beginner Thanks

We are in Queensland Australia. Where these paddles are made. All be it roughly 1000miles from the Caloundra base. We have a high exposure to these paddles. Most in the club have tried them. With a handfull purchasing them. I have ordered one of the new 14mm versions. As my thoughts were that while the spin felt above my Selkirk Labs Project 003, the power wasnt as mindblowing as I had hoped. Remebering this is a feel from a short period of use. I did feel the sweetpot is enormous. If you already use heavy topspin and use corners of the paddle a lot, it was undeniably like nothing else available in Australia. This most definitely has a place in the next generation of paddles. Those that have swapped from Gearbox, Selkirk and Pro Kennex (all older gen paddles) have noticebly improved in power, accuracy and consistency of shots. Occassionally they can't control the power. ( that I couldn't "FEEL") These players noticeably hit harder now. (So I'm hoping when mine arrives it has a similar effect) My question is, like golf clubs, is there a diminishing level of return with respect to power? The stronger the payer you are do you recieve the same benefit as those that are, let's say, "3.5 at best". And yes. To the question,"Do we have a player that that has a paddle that has delaminated." It started with one side. But within a day it was both sides. It is unbelievably loud and noticeable. No need to do the Olsen twin test of flexing the face with super strength thumbs. (although I did and he's correct. It crackles when it's broken) The hilarious part is, he is in complete denial that its broken. Refuses to send it back. Is completely convinced it was always like that. On the side. He has admitted it has way more power now and bucket loads more spin. In summary. Really greatful for this review Mr Chang. Can't wait for more inovation in pickleball and the contraversy that ensues.

Will, I just used your promo code to purchase a DBD 14mm with the cherry blossom coloring. I saved $18 by using your code. I'm a pickleball enthusiast and have been playing 6 months. I'm upgrading from an Onix Z5 paddle which I really like but it just doesn't generate a lot of spin. I was looking for a paddle that emphasizes control and spin and had some of the latest technologies. I'm not really worried about power as I could get plenty out of the Z5. Thanks for your review on these paddles.

crbn 2x 16mm vs double black diamond 16mm. power and control. I am more curious of the control part.

I've used the 14mm BD couple of times and I'm liking it. Less pop than BD for sure, but more than the 16mm BD. Better Control than BD.

Been playing the Legacy Pro for about 3 months 4 days a week. Have you heard of any of these paddles losing pop? Mine seems to have a mushy spot in middle. Thanks

Awesome review Will! Based on the color of the logo at the throat, it looks like you have their old batch of paddles. Have you been able to try the new batch with updated glue? I heard the stiffness is different and it's slightly heavier with the added glue. Also have you been able to try the Vatic Flash 16mm? Curious to hear your thoughts on how it compares to the DBD and where you would rank it in your comparison at the end of the video. I was hoping to be able to do a comparison between the DBD and the Flash 16mm but my DBD was an old batch and delaminated on me after a few days 😢 so recently have been playing with the BD

Will do you know if the foam used in the Thermoform process is EVA? Hope either you or Chris does a review on the Icon V2.

Pls Sixzero for the 2nd gen make a 5.5 handle. Ie Ronbus r1 pulsar which offers 5.25 and 5.5

Very nice job on the video. I am considering a new thermoformed paddle but would like one with good touch for drops/dinks. I am using CRBN2 now so I am looking for a thermoformed with touch. Out of all the thermoformed you have tried (including Scorpeus), which do you think has the best touch? I've been looking at DBD but unsure of the feel, but now Scorpeus is out so I am unsure. Definltely like the DBD price better though.

does the double black diamond have more or less control than the legacy pro? Which would be better for 3rd shot drops? Which would be better for dinking?

Hi Will, which paddle do you think has an edge for singles? And how do you compare the PowerAir to DBD? Thanks

Just curious what are you using to wrap the edge guard on your paddles? ie… at 6:00 in the video. I like how it breaks up the monotony of black as seen on most paddles. Also ordered the Black Diamond based on your and JohnKew’s reviews. Thanks Will!

What are you thoughts on the DBD 14mm?

can you test out the vulcan 940, it has some type of 4x carbon face if possible. I currently use joola hyperion 16 mm ben johns. I added a leather grip and 6 strips of lead at 4 and 8, and I love it. Trying to fine similar paddles that have a higher quality carbon face that doesn't ware down as fast.

Hey Will, Thanks for another great review. I was wondering how either of these compare to the Head Radial Tour CO, which I currently play with. Love the Head for spin and power on serves and returns, but looking to add more control (I need better resets and 3rd shot drops) to my game. Tried the original CRBN 1, but lacked power and with the Legacy I had better resets, control at the net and third shot drops) than the Head, but my return of serve really suffers (doesn't drive as far as the Head and sometimes pops out).

Will how does the double black diamond compare to the new Vatic Flash 16mm which seem to have identical specs.

have you had a chance to compare the DBD 14mm vs 16mm. If so does the 14 mm result in much less control with 3rd shot drops and dinks?

How would you describe the control of the dbd 14mm? I know that thinker paddles have better control, but was wondering if the control of the dbd 14mm was worth the purchase.

Love your reviews. Can I give one recommendation please? It’s “oriented” not “orientated”. Thank you-I feel better now😉.

I was debating if I should buy the DBD 16mm or the Vatic Pro Flash 16mm. Do you know what the differences are? Online reviews are saying that they come from the same factory and virtually identical...do you agree? If so, should I just save money and go with the flash?

Love the video, Will! I’ve been playing with the power air and looking to switch. 4.0 and can use some more touch for doubles but don’t want to lose too much power. Any thoughts? Thanks again!

Hey Will! I love your videos. On a 1-10 scale, I am looking for a paddle with 9-10 spin, 8-10 control, and 5-6 power (I can generate my own power when necessary.) Out of all the paddles you've played with, do any fit that description? Thank you!

Just bought 14mm DBD - used Will's code.

Thanks Will, super intuitive video as always! Hey, I know you like the Hyperion 14mm, so can you speak to the difference between the Double Black Diamond 14mm vs the 16mm? Any preference?

hey will, how much weight did you add to the 3 and 9 o clock positions in grams? i have the same paddle and im looking to add some stability aswell.

I'm sure the difference is very subtle, but Six Zero claims the BD generates more spin than the DBD...do you agree?

I played with a friends Filth, the Sixzero Black Diamond and the Double. My favorite was the Double, but as of writing this they are still out of stock. Is there another paddle similar to the double diamond that I can seek out to test and maybe buy?

@PickleballWill - Great video as always. I was hoping you could give me some advice, I currently play with the Selkirk Power Air and I was looking for a little more control. Would you say the Double Black Diamond would be a good choice?

For the double black, what's your thoughts on 14 mm vs the 16 mm? Thanks.

Hey Will for a INT player (3.5+) would you go 14 or 16mm for the DBD?

Can you add a link to the neon green electrical tape you have on the sides?

Hey Will - What type of lead tape did you use, and how much per side?

I’m looking to upgrade from my Joola Hyperion 16 MM CFS. It’s come down to DBD 16 MM or CRBN 1X what are your thought?! Thanks a bunch.

So you need to use an eraser after every session? How often should you be cleaning the face? And which eraser do you recommend?

I currently play with a gamma 405 paddle and I'm really leading towards this double diamond paddle because the reviews are consistent on this particular paddle and really good. My paddle is 13 mm and I'm trying to decide if I want a 14 mm or 16 mm paddle. I like power but I also like my control since I play with a lot of topspin on my shots but I also use a lot of slice when I'm being defensive in my singles games. I have a tennis background so I've always prefer my string tension in the middle to give me a balance with power and control but I feel like I need more pop on my paddle because I'm having to swing harder to achieve the power that I want with my current paddle. I know the thicker the paddle the less power I'll have but is there really that much of a difference between the 14 mm and a 16 mm for this pedal?

Have you had a chance to look at the new ICON V2? I’d love to hear your thoughts.

Like that light blue MLP shirt... wish they sold it on the website.

Will love your content… for selfish reasons would love maybe an ig story if you like this paddles and want to upgrade this is might be for you.. I play a benjohns Franklin 13 bought a CRBN 1x 14 thought it was a good upgrade 🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️and caint use it.. I miss the feel of my Ben John’s I just caint spin the CRBN Help!!!

Unfortunately I have had three of these delam within 2 months so needless to say I’m bowing out of these thermo paddles until the dust settles. To be fair sixzero has been amazing with costumer service and replaced them

Thanks!

have you used the 14mm version? im thinking if i wanna get the 14 or 16

hi will w/c one you refer to me I if will use for doubles game? Thanks for your advise :)

Hey been a long time watcher! But between black diamond and legacy pro, which would you recommend for singles?

How do you think the dbd 16 conpares to vatic flash 16?

Good Review, I think it might help if you slow your speech just slightly when you explain things. You talk pretty fast and sometimes its hard to understand all the info you are dropping. You and Chris are some of my favorite pickleball youtubers :)

I just got crbn 1x 16 mm and its not as powerful as I hoped.. is it worth returning and getting a BD if I already have a Legacy pro on the way

What thickness do you recommend

Did already played with DBD 14mm?, how does it compare with 16mm, what do you prefer?

So you think the DBD has good control like the legacy?

Do a Forza Mach 1 review. That paddle is 🔥

Will, what is your favorite paddle right now for doubles in the $200 or less range?

Great video

Most of reviews on you tube are for advanced players, can you do some reviews for newbies to pickle ball pls. Just rec play.

Review is very accurate.

Thanks for the video. For Black Diamond face being made of fibreglass, would you say this paddle will last much longer than any carbon fibre face paddles?

Hey man what hat are you wearing in this video?

The discount code?

Hey Will, is that led tape on the outer edge of the paddle or just colored tape for aesthetics?

I have the “Power” Enjoyed the review but the Black Diamond is simply not fibreglass faced. The Website says: “Composite Textured Surface The Six Zero Team worked closely with material engineers to develop a proprietary Premium Japanese composite textured surface that provides amazing spin, grip and feel on the ball. Multiple interwoven layers add strength, power and controlled pop.” It is the cheaper Saphire paddle that has the Epoxy (fibreglass) face. You can feel the difference straight away.

It sounds like you're not loving the Legacy any more - is the honeymoon over?

The double black diamond and vatic flash 16mm seem almost identical - how equivalent are these in real life?

Out of stock everywhere still

My black diamond delaminated after 2 weeks. It now plays terrible. This is a real problem for all the thermofformed paddles. If it deliminstes it is unfair and unsafe. Other than PPA/mlp it can’t be tested in other tournaments. I suspect most will eventually delaminate

Bobby Beams, you handsome son-of-a-b****

Looks like a ronbus…..

Had my Double Black Diamond for about a month or two, and really loving it. Came from Prince Response Pro (Thanks Barrett! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-PO8mYV2qX1c.html) to the Gearbox CX14 to the PURSUIT EX 6.0... Feels like a good step up from these and really liking the feel and control and honestly power it gives.

Made in China :(