Are the Tories 'refusing' to see where they 'went wrong'? | LBC debate

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Conservative MPs Michael Gove and Andrea Leadsom are stepping down at the General Election on July 4th, meaning a record 78 will not be contesting their seats. Matt Frei takes your calls to try and understand why.
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@ThomasKing19933 23 дня назад

The Tories can't see where they went wrong because they are deluded.

@mrdaveythebaby 23 дня назад

They don't think they went wrong, they are worried that people aren't brainwashed anymore.

@blue_jay31 23 дня назад

For sure !

@bonbiskadafi9423 22 дня назад

Because all they ve done in the last 14 years was lies , propaganda, divisiveness and hate 😅

@pholdway5801 21 день назад

Tory is an Irish word used to remind THEM of the potato famine and landlords who may have been living in the U K but who were not actually ENGLISH. It is a cheap jibe used for political benefit

@sonofsomerset1695 19 дней назад

If you're worried about delusion you wont be voting for Kier Starmer, who doesnt even know what a woman is, then will you?

@brianferguson7840 23 дня назад

Because they are going to suffer the biggest and most humiliating defeat in Tory history. No-one wants to be a Portillo !

@DaleHanson-nw9yc 23 дня назад

Sounds brilliant

@duncancurtis5108 23 дня назад

A lot hope Moggy will get brass banned at 2am😊

@weswheel4834 22 дня назад

It is a bit sad. I mean yeah, Portillo lost and it was probably a bit embarassing for a bit. But just walking away now (as some are) just looks pathetic. Also it is like leaving the football early when your teams losing, it makes those who are left look bad.

@Sam_Smith1987 22 дня назад

Not sure it’s going to beat 1997, but it’s going to be a spanking for sure! Assume the position, Rishi! 😂

@weswheel4834 22 дня назад

@@Sam_Smith1987 Trying to think who is left who will care. Sunak seems past caring now. Mourdant and Braverman?

@user-zc4yd9ss7h 23 дня назад

The Tories haven't a clue where they went wrong. But in truth they've never really bothered to try to find out. Too busy feathering their own nest...

@matthewn1805 23 дня назад

So true, even if they did realise their mess up they would still deny it and continue regardless, why things have just got worse and worse.

@coppershark1973 19 дней назад

Precisely this. They want power to gain wealth. The country and its people are a distraction to that goal.

@mark-wh2qc 23 дня назад

The gravy train is over, they've fleeced all they can and now they're off....

@rde4017 23 дня назад

What £4 billion in "lost" PPE money?

@darlik1 23 дня назад

Labor have to refill the coffers.

@darlik1 23 дня назад

@@rde4017 And the rest.

@cousinit2392 23 дня назад

@@rde4017riski has written off 11 billion

@drunkengamer1977 22 дня назад

@@rde4017£49 billion in dodgy covid contracts

@tonylanfranchi7244 23 дня назад

Give the Tories another chance??!! FFS - where DO they get these callers from?

@malcolmmitchell6529 22 дня назад

Some fool said THAT?

@aragornthebrave 21 день назад

They have to have "balance" as the election's been called. I wonder how many people they had to speak to before they found one who supported these terrible Tories!

@rayglenister9799 21 день назад

The party head office.

@sonofsomerset1695 19 дней назад

They same place they get tribal Labour voters from, the uninformed general public.

@leroysimon5692 19 дней назад

👏🏾👏🏾👍🏾

@1erkyrob2 23 дня назад

The Tories are totally in wipeout mode.

@Gaza-vu6gl 23 дня назад

If the Tories were way in front of the polls. They would be staying. Gravy train driving to a halt

@rchas1023 23 дня назад

The number of Tories lacking conviction of their beliefs is shocking. One might almost think they're just in it for the money!

@andydarbyshir8699 23 дня назад

After 14 years of Conservative government they have increased the national debt by 1.4 trillion have plus they have their highest tax burden in 70 years and distributed wealths to the very top earners in this country. This is the reason why this country is in such a state.

@juliegreen640 22 дня назад

The debt now is wait for it... . 3 and a half TRILLION and still rising!!!

@frankpaterson9786 23 дня назад

It's not unusual for vandals to run away from the damage they have caused.

@50_Pence 23 дня назад

Gove. Dignity. These words do not go together ever.

@leroysimon5692 19 дней назад

👏🏾👏🏾👍🏾

@damianleah6744 23 дня назад

It needs a huge defeat for clouds of delusion to lift from these self indulgent tories.

@kwanchan6745 23 дня назад

be careful what you wish for...sir kid starver is going to be worse, much worse...neither labour nor tory parties are fit to govern the country

@garyh1572 23 дня назад

I hope you include whoever voted Tory in that delusion.

@DeniseWilliams-jr5xo 23 дня назад

Sadly I don't think it will. They'll blame the groups of people who they most despise. The disabled will probably get the most blame because quite frankly they'd send us to the gas chambers if they could.

@garemacquarrie6705 21 день назад

It needs a tax system that taxes them

@psycrow6699 23 дня назад

Jumping before they are pushed

@michaelflinn7784 23 дня назад

It's much easier to blame other people for your shortcomings and failures. Modern Tories have never faced reality of a modern Britain.

@chrismurphy6070 22 дня назад

Blame is the lazy man's wage

@alundavies1016 23 дня назад

They don’t want to a) lose their seat at 3am July 5th b) don’t want to sit on the opposition benches where they can’t do anything to enrich themselves.

@sergeborrelli2489 23 дня назад

Haven't they enriched themselves enough?

@kwanchan6745 23 дня назад

they've filled their boots already, and can't be bothered to appeal to the proles to vote for them

@alundavies1016 23 дня назад

@@sergeborrelli2489 the only thing that motivates them is money

@col.hertford9855 23 дня назад

C) both a and b

@sergeborrelli2489 23 дня назад

@@alundavies1016 I guess you're right. The billions and billions of dollars they have swindled aren't enough , if you can swindle a few more billions.

@julianshepherd2038 23 дня назад

Self serving Conservatives.

@adill375 22 дня назад

Accumulating money on back of the tax payers money.

@aragornthebrave 21 день назад

Self-servatives.

@andrewrobinson2565 23 дня назад

"Nothing to do with me, all that corruption". Flight risks, all of them. 😮

@allip4226 23 дня назад

Pandering to far-right popularism is about to hand them their biggest ever defeat, yet some of these window-lickers are still arguing that they need to move further to the right! 😂

@Rosskles 23 дня назад

Exactly what I'm saying, they lost the more educated and moderate voters.

@alvanrigby6361 23 дня назад

Delusional comment. Its because they are losing the so called populist. Completely ignoring concerns about immigration.

@zoltan-zq3xe 23 дня назад

Only 4 true leftwing governments left in the 27 member states of the EU that tells you how well the woke globalist left is doing, Trump well ahead in US polls, Trudolf hated in Canada, Labour may get in but the left is on its way out in the west.

@suethorpe1976 14 дней назад

It's such a hoot 😂

@dw-yl3ln 23 дня назад

First step to solving the problem is admitting the problem exists. And Tories are too arrogant and self-absorbed to admit they are the problem. If you have a problem, but don't have the self-awareness to look inside and confront yourself..... the only option is to move on.

@mrdaveythebaby 23 дня назад

The country is turning out exactly as they want it to. The problem they have is that people can actually tell.

@Skylark_Jones 22 дня назад

@@mrdaveythebaby Spot on. 👏👏👍 The idea that they don't have a plan is false: they have a plan alright and we can see it unfolding, and it ain't pretty, nor does it serve the people of Britain.

@mrdaveythebaby 22 дня назад

@Skylark_Jones and Sunak certainly had a plan to rinse as much taxpayer mullah into his wife's company as possible...

@petercarney-gt3me 23 дня назад

tories and principles ....don`t make me laugh..

@user-vs3ku4xk9c 23 дня назад

Because cowards leave their mess for whoever to clean up, Jumping ship to keep their hands clean.

@sergeborrelli2489 23 дня назад

The sad part is that these Conservative folks truly don't believe they have done anything wrong.

@jonzu217 23 дня назад

They knew exactly what they were doing.

@hg82met 23 дня назад

Don't let them off the hook. They knew what they were doing. Every day they lied and gaslighted, whilst conning the taxpayer to enrich themselves and their cronies.

@brianferguson7840 23 дня назад

Is the plural of "Portillo" moment 🤔 "Portilli" moments ? Coz they'll be a lot of 'em.😂😂

@user-zc4yd9ss7h 23 дня назад

They know their time is up.

@LongbranchOlivetti 23 дня назад

Because when they become the opposition, it will be much harder for them to line their own pockets.

@ArsenalTrill 23 дня назад

The Great Escape, before they got embarrassed and trounced in the elections ❤🍉

@David-nd4to 23 дня назад

cos the gravy train is off the tracks now

@darlik1 23 дня назад

The gravy train has run out of money. They need Labor to refill it.

@whackeryounis 23 дня назад

regardless of who you support, anyone who thinks the tories can win are genuinely delusional. when hope beats logic.

@vinylrulesok8470 22 дня назад

Prices going up is NOT an improvement ffs. How can people not see that???

@Lmtthw8651 23 дня назад

Seeing that the gravy train coming to an end, the abuse of position and public office. Why there are no offences relating to abuse and conduct in public office is a disgrace, that is any meaningful ones. All they have done is serve themselves and sod the country. The people, especially the young ones need to make sure they have very long memories, once they are out, keep them out !!

@mikeallison7753 23 дня назад

Because their days of exploting the public purse is finally over.

@maneshipocrates2264 23 дня назад

These tory voters are incredibly off it.

@mrmajeika6101 23 дня назад

The guy talking about this being like 1992 election is clueless. As the result will show.

@alanrobinson2559 23 дня назад

They are all leading Brexiteers. Has no one noticed

@walrtbstudios5430 22 дня назад

The ones that didn’t believe in Brexit got purged by the constituencies in 2019- that is, all the intelligent ones.

@stepearceu2 23 дня назад

It's nice so many of the Tories are finally leaving - just a shame it took them so long.

@martinrobinson9061 22 дня назад

It’s frightening that those callers walk amongst us.

@teresamcdonald1977 22 дня назад

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

@threebadmicefpv 22 дня назад

It's like the great flushing, however someone has to clean the skidmarks off the bowl

@mrdaveythebaby 23 дня назад

The state of the country is a direct and predictable consequence of their ideology and policies. Don't forget that, despite millions struggling and most Britons feeling the financial pain, the people they truly serve are doing very well at the moment and just getting richer every day. The 'plan' actually is working. It's just not meant to work for the majority.

@chrisspencer6502 23 дня назад

Why is this even a question!? Answer, the game is up they’ve spent 14 years in government feathering their nest. Telling lies doing nothing. Now they need to face reality why bother!? Just walk away.

@West-End 23 дня назад

The Tories have given up on the battlefield, they know they are a lost cause!

@susanb4816 23 дня назад

Politicians are self serving. All the arguments about individual motivations clearly demonstrate they weren’t there to serve but to be served

@XLatMaths 23 дня назад

I don't know, why are they "Leaing"?

@erikschmidt476 22 дня назад

How is it not a much bigger issue that there are 650 MPs! That is ridiculous! The country's economy is comparable to a 3rd world country, but 650 MPs on the payroll: Makes immigration insignificant in comparison for me.

@jackoniel7864 23 дня назад

Mainly because they have had 14 years to fleece this country lining their own pockets and making their mates richer.simple.

@geoffpegler4506 23 дня назад

Because the gravy train has pulled into its final destination.

@paulbird3235 23 дня назад

The party will be smashed to pieces, they can't be bothered to re-build a party from scratch and be on the sidelines.

@juergenweidner1 22 дня назад

They took their ill gotten money and now they run off. I really hope, there will be future legal consequences for them. These corrupt swines must be taken to account in what they have done to this country.

@susanb4816 23 дня назад

They won’t be able to so easily fill their pockets anymore so time to move on to the next scam

@user-ym5dl8ep7o 22 дня назад

It's going to be a Michael Portillo moment for many Tory MPs, they don't want the shame 😢

@pipomorais1 22 дня назад

There's a general behaviour around the world named " cognitive dissonance " , and I sincerely believe all MPs who stand down are affected with this problem ...

@pipomorais1 22 дня назад

Cognitive dissonance is the discomfort a person feels when their behavior does not align with their values or beliefs. Cognitive dissonance is a psychological phenomenon that occurs when a person holds two contradictory beliefs at the same time.

@toriesout8692 23 дня назад

Be given a chance…. He’s had 18months and has been chancellor. How many more chances does he need? He uses Kinnock but it’s a poor example. The Tory vote hasn’t been as split as they have been, polls for the key topics and issues haven’t been as wide, and 14 years is a long time for a government and fatigue is clearly obvious.

@heyhonpuds 23 дня назад

Kings Lynn represent

@johnrussell3961 23 дня назад

Step 1. Define the purpose of Goverment. When they didn’t get that one right what followed was going to be a total disaster.

@poplife123 22 дня назад

The pending criminal investigations .....

@johnproton259 22 дня назад

Brexit taught us that leaving is just losers quitting.

@crazyman8472 21 день назад

They can’t admit it, or they’d never get on GB News again! 😜

@jlpowell51 22 дня назад

The only way that is possible is if their eyes are entirely closed.

@johndewhurst6609 22 дня назад

The Tory downfall began in the 1970's with Margaret Thatcher. She abondoned conservative thinking and embraced neoliberalism. The banks were set free of any codes of practice (hence the crash in 2007/2008). Privatisation ran riot with no controls ( causing the rivers and sea to be polluted with raw sewage for example ). The party never tried to take control again so failure was inevitable. Remeber Thatchers words, "There is no such thing as community just individuals"

@user-qd2pc5gz4n 21 день назад

There are only 4 jobs left at GB NEWS !

@michaeloshea5505 23 дня назад

Now lets see the Portillo moment again. But this time Jacob Rees-Mogg ! Sweet!

@Martyre20 22 дня назад

All they care for is money, do not let them run off and pretend they are not running from accountability.

@Cosmic-Gecko66 22 дня назад

They are doing what Tories do. When something doesn't go the way they want they leave. David Cameron started the trend of leaving when the Brexit vote didn't go the way he wanted, and the Tories have been a mess since.

@georgechurchill3622 21 день назад

Do people stick around after committing crimes? lol

@christopherfry9003 22 дня назад

The Tory plan is working. Leave the chaos of Brexit to Labour.

@jonandrews382 23 дня назад

Because they think they’re gonna win! Oh wait no… it’s the opposite

@jamesmurray-fg7pw 21 день назад

They are going for consulting jobs with extortionate wages consulting in what causing mayhem ?

@mrdenson3101 22 дня назад

They got higher paying jobs on the boards of many companies in the City of London

@lvazure9 23 дня назад

Thumbnail is missing a "v" in leaving

@CmdrDjBurp-dr5uy 22 дня назад

They are leaving to go hide all the money offshore 😎👍

@stevemccullagh36 22 дня назад

As far as the "Big Names" like Gove go, they don't even have the guts or decency to wait for their Portillo Moment.

@frank47ism 23 дня назад

As Churchill once said a 10 minute conversation with the average voter is the biggest argument against the electoral system.

@paulandhisguitars 22 дня назад

They are leaving because they want to avoid having a portillo moment.

@custa73burner 23 дня назад

The gravy trail has just pulled into the station, and it's time to disembark with their ill gotten gains.

@MiPointIs 22 дня назад

I thought Boris was banned from the entire parliamentary estate so how can he become a peer?

@IanReesDavies 22 дня назад

perhaps they think the police may come knocking for any amount of nefarious actions and decided to get a head start. I WISH lol

@NathTMcC 22 дня назад

Labour are too centrist at the moment

@themidnightwoodsman1804 23 дня назад

(5.13)😅😅 Stop it! My sides can't take it

@davidrose213 22 дня назад

Many of them must finally be feeling embarrassed about the lies they told us about Brexit

@kimmcbride30 21 день назад

they've made the rich even richer and are now going to the reap their reward in the private sector

@user-er7yi8hk6f 22 дня назад

They are leaving for Jobs in GB news, Talk TV, Times Radio and BBC TV

@maxine2798 21 день назад

The worry is they’ll be replaced (in the token few seats they might win) by even worse

@davidjupp961 23 дня назад

Why ? Really?

@p0ssiblypossiblynot557 23 дня назад

Safe & Effective fallout...

@michaelgibson4705 21 день назад

Riding off into the sunset,to enjoy the best pension known to man

@annepoitrineau5650 22 дня назад

I really feel sorry for the second caller.

@NeilHughes-ti6pz 21 день назад

Taking their winnings out of the country.

@alanmansell4297 17 дней назад

A massive Mea Non Culpa! The cat is out of the bag. Chickens come home to roost ad inf. None of them are prepared to see their collective responsibly revealed. I bet JRM is secretly wishing the worse.

@kevinwillis6707 22 дня назад

that second caller is off his meds...

@suemckenna1585 22 дня назад

All jumping before they are pushed 😂

@user-dk6pl9lj3e 22 дня назад

'Leain'. Is that like... skipping through a meadow? Like Theresa May did rather naughtily? ;)

@Zahidpiash 22 дня назад

I don’t think so anyone will miss Micheal gobe

@perrin6 23 дня назад

I don't know why they're leaing, I don't even know what leaing is.

@robertwilliams4084 20 дней назад

Why are you a politician?? For personal gain or because your a civic minded individual?? The conservatives dont give a snap about the electorate!

@steveunwin830 23 дня назад

They know the gravy-train is over.

@ruthguthrie1099 22 дня назад

Oh dear. What a waste voting for Alba.

@ryanmcmahon2422 23 дня назад

NEVER UNDERESTIMATE THE OTHER MP'S GREED..

@SuzanneJones-qy3zh 22 дня назад

The privileged fews gravy train is drying up.

@chrislesiter4531 23 дня назад

David Cameron, George Osbourne and Boris Johnson were all first elected in 2001. The first two entered Government in 2010 after facing two terms in opposition to Labour. And that is why so many are stepping aside: they see the polls implying at least two terms in opposition. And by then the current names with have to compete for attention against the new up and comers.