Are There Any True Heels in Pro Wrestling? 

umm.....

so damn true

u gotta admit Bray Wyatt is bound for a face turn...he gets a huge reaction from the fans so to continue to try and make him a heel just doesn't seem right...in fact i think Bray has traits of the undertaker but we just gotta wait n see.

thats very true, but at the same time i feel like they're forcing it with trying to get the audience to sing along to that stupid ass whole world song...they need to stop that, and just let it happen organically

Kyle P the choir was designed to scare kids and make them feel sorry for Cena.

well then they failed because little kids were in the audience singing along

+Jonathan Roche EXCELLENT!

Getting X-Pac heat means very little.

You forgot angle and Eddie they were two of the best heels

Only one you forgot was Eddie in late 05

***** www.google.com/search?q=kurt+angle&oq=kurt+angl&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j0l5.3661j0j7&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=122&ie=UTF-8

Haasan man what a waste.

Imagine if they booked him and Cena for the title at The Great American Bash 2005. Cena probably wouldn't been getting so many boos.

RockSolidEJV420 I can agree

+diesel101raw 2009-2010 Batista was fucking awesome. "You'll be Kissin' babies and hugging fat girls while I'm in a gym training to kick your arse at WrestleMania.."

Dillon Haggett Batista as Heel is classic

punk was the heel

We are still in the PG Era, WWE just don't want people saying that because they are all too aware people view it in a negative light.

The whole Reality Era thing was one heel promo by Hunter, I don't understand why people take it so seriously.

tehCrazian Because marks are complete morons.

MrMoneyInTheBank very true lol

+MrMoneyInTheBank You called it the Reality Era

Dude, He Sucked as a Heel.

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no Orton in 2007 was more vicious he was taking ppl out he took out hbk rvd ending careers etc 09 Orton was vicious but 07 was his best heel incarnation

taker use to just drop with the tombstone Kane use to jump with his version of the move that's how you could tell the difference between the two

Andre Lewis Watch his WM26 match with HBK again and you'll see. He could BARELY walk after he did it and he never came back full time after that match. He never even did his victory salute that he does after every match, which NEVER happens.

I'm guessing the reason is the smarkish crowds. The people who were cheering Punk weren't marks so they weren't thinking "Oh, what an asshole" they were thinking "WOW that's some GREAT heel work!" The problem is that the wrestlers adjust with the fans. CM Punk no matter what when coming back was going to be cheered.

Shonen I know I’m late but you gotta throw Jericho in 2008 up there, Orton in 2009, Triple H 2002-2005 imo.

Agreed. But one of the reason JBL was a great heel is because he had an opponent who's a good face to work with in Eddie Guerrero.

You are right. It's easy to be a great heel when you're working against an even better face.

They already do though

diesel101raw Agree.

Damon Brande True.

Really? I haven't seen anyone of those people say that. I don't know anyone who denies John Cena is a good person. I think you just like to complain.

+Travis McDonald you mad bro?

Jason Tan YES!

1Paraj That Orton was brilliant. There were a few good heels around at that time. Punk was getting booed out of buildings and in a year with S.E.S would have an old lady at a house show jump across the rail slapping while yelling "you're not Christ your'e the devil!" Getting mountains of heat.... pity they went with Miz's X pac heat, heel for the Mania match. Jericho was hated by EVERYBODY in the building after and during the Shawn rivalry. He was a perfect mix of heel with his belittling of the fans (wouldn't even humour kids asking for his autograph) was cold and calculated, broke every rule he could and just an all round prick. Edge was Smackdown's resident heel cheating to beat everyone, giving no one credit, would run but not because he was afraid but because of advantage. Would sink to every sort of low including hoping into bed with his higher ups to get what he wanted. Edge was a very manipulative heel that got heat easily. Orton as a heel is really hard to describe though, he was terrifying. When he'd punt people at random, ddt'd steph then kissed her while Trips clawed at him ect. it was just constant. The guy was absolute pure evil. Comparing his beat down of Cena's dad this year where he hit him once before running away from Cena cowardly to when he was beating the shit out of Cena then dragged his dad over the barricade mid beatdown then punted him right in front of Cena is no contest. Orton was an animal.

Orton was okay, but lacked it in promos. His only menacing feature was sneak attacks. He did cowardly things like the punt and running away, fine, but Jericho, Edge, and I'll throw in Muhammad Hassan, all did things better through promos that were superior to what Orton had done.

CometVS Orton's promos did sound bland but they still matched his character well but his character was booked strongly. That's what made him menacing. When McMahon was about to fire him so he punted him was viscous. Right down to the way he wrestled and moved everything about his character was perfect. A cold, calculated, merciless, sadistic predator. He sold it perfectly. Edge and Jericho were magic on the mic and with their segments but actions, in this case, speak just as loud if not louder than words for Randy. All just terrific heels. Muhammad Hassan, if he wasn't cut, would EASILY be the best heel in all of wrestling. The guy was getting MAJOR heat, the only problem was he was getting heat backstage for "not paying dues" apparently.

arexyouxepicxenough YES man. I really didn't mean to undermine jericho or edge cause they truly exemplified heels. But yea what you said. Orton was just pure evil. Then they had the angle o with the I.E.D which he used to keep him in the company, prevent from being sued, fired, and also being able to stay there and give the mchmahons and every one else hell, whilst going to the royal rumble, winning it, then moving on to headline wrestlemania; then reveals at the end for months he never had I.E.D, he knew exactly what he was doing the whole damn time. Punting everybody, putting vince and shane in the hospital, abusing his clause by threatening to sue the company, and file an injunction to close wresltemania, rko, ddt stephanie, hand cuff hhh and have him watch Orton Kiss his wife in front of millions, then end him with a sledge hammer hit. That man was pure fucking evil. Nobody and I mean NOBODY has ever done anything close to that in wwe history. Hands down, top ten best heel, and hands down, top ten best fued/ storyline.

2003 vince was A true heel for years look at 1998 vince obsession with screw stone cold an 1999 vince raped his own daughter in the story making that clear.

NATIONALCOMMUNISM666 had undertaker rape her he did not actuly do it still same thing.

it actuly relly crack me up the ideal of good guy vince mcmhon like we suppose to forget this is the same guy had his wife medicated in to coma an lock in A nursing home an had what was still at that time his teen age daughter raped by A satanic gang I mean taker been face since then but he was following order an it was not his daughter any way.

Not in my opinion

Noah Kunz When did you start watching? How old are you? Then I can make my argument.

Im gonna be honest im 13 but I just feel jericho and edge got more heel heat in their fueds than angle did,I thought angle was also a good bad guy but I personally liked jericho as a heel more than angle was.

Noah Kunz Cool its good that you tell the truth mate. Alot of younger people I know, just didn´t get to see Angle when he was at his best. Truth be told all 3 are very good heels, but for my money there are not many who can touch Angle. he´s in Rock. Stone Cold terriritory when it comes to how good it is. So it kind of depends what you mean. When I say better heel I mean more entertaining and I´m talking about a very specific time which you were born a year after :) Check out Angle from 2000. If you go back to the Raws from then, he was at his best as heel, 2001 was really good with Stone Cold as well, but after about 2003 he really started just being known more for being a bad ass wrestler, even though he was still funny. The problem as well is HHH is seriously jealous of Angle, so WWE properganda about that whole period of time, tends to ignore Angles contribution, when infact he was a way way bigger name than Edge or Jericho. Only in bizzaro HHH, WWE land is Edge even considered on Angle or Jericho´s level. Don´t get me wrong they were good, and I appreciate why you think this, and I´m not even saying you´re wrong, but for Angle to get over the way he did and be so entertaining. then back it up in the ring all while The Rock and Stone Cold were dominating the scene was a mighty impressive feet. Every week he kept getting better and better and for my money even eclipsedThe Rock in how funny he was for and yeah he drew alot of heat. But I guess in a way you´re right, because it was kind of the heat you get where people like you cause you´re so funny. Jericho is wittier than Angle, but Angle is way funnier as comedic chicken shit heel and provided more laughs and memorable moments for me than Jericho. As for Edge, sorry he is not in Jericho/Angles league. He could never have got over the way Jericho and Angle did, even while the big Mammoth giants of wresting were in the company i.e. The Rock and SCSA. His time to shine came at the expense of John Cena who has zero charisma and is really its alot easier to make yourself look like a million bux compared to John Cena. In Angles feuds with John Cena, Angle came off smelling like roses as well. The 3 guys where talking about have just so much more charisma and ability compared to John Cena its a joke. So thats how I feel. Have you seen the raws from 2000-2001. I think even if you don´t change your mind on your favorites, you´ll gain a new respect for how good Angle was as a pure entertainer.

+TheNerdMan2 angle in his early run reminds me of bo Dallas in 2013

It's because when you heard him back in the day he was announcing when he's not he's a quite guy

+ISetYourFaceOnFire Don't see him getting booed though

BBAScav That's true.. but a lot of heels today don't.

The Miz

RealDealSoulja Dude I couldn't agree with you anymore, ya know a lot of people say that his whole thuganomics gimmick was awful, but in my opinion the gimmick wasn't as annoying and over done like the current one he's been doing for the last ten year with this whole, never give up shit...Cena was always terrible in my opinion..but I'd rather of seen the thuganomics character every week rather than this annoying one that's about 25 years too old, and with them turning him heel, he'd still be awful and corny, i think its just who he is...but at least it would be different, it really is time for a change, because i think even the little kiddies are losing interest in cena..and if they aren't now, it's only a matter of time before they grow up and realize who goony cena is..but dude i can't agree with what u said anymore.

and let me just say that no asshole Cena fan needs to write, and point out that he sells tons of merchandise and that's why they don't turn him heel, i get it, but i also realize that even though Hogan was getting booed, and also very stale in the mid 90's....he still sold tons and tons of merchandise for WCW at the time, but guess what, they realized it was time for a change..and they turned him heel, and Hogan's character got pretty damn interesting again..so if Cena selling merchandise is there main reason....that's pretty damn stupid to me, and i think the risk would be worth the reward if they actually turned cena heel...but imo the better late than never saying doesn't fit the situation, i think if they wait too long to turn him heel, it will be a point where literally no one even gives a shit.

Kyle P Yupp, completely agree with you... but I guess Vince is too stingy to turn their most "valuable" wrestler heel right now. I don't know man, but Cena needs to do something with his character asap, if not most of us are going to keep fast forwarding through his matches unless their against someone I care about like Bray, Punk, Bryan, Cesaro, Barrett or the Shield

exactly

Is it supposed to be cool to call a guy by his real name?

CometVS It was Dwayne himself that prefered to be called that, try reading interviews outside the context of wrestling.

The Gooch Only for that moment because he said he missed being there after being gone for seven years.

CometVS please, he carried himself like wrestling was beneath him during those years. He loves wrestling about as much as Lesnar does. But at least Lesnar is still good at it. Rocks matches over the last few years were complete garbage.

The Gooch He hasn't wrestled for eight years, seven if you want to get count one match at WM in 2004. What do you expect? He works a crowd better than anyone on the roster. Workrate isn't what makes a wrestler a top performer.

Yes yes yes Bo dallas will be a great heel numba 1 in wrestling today.

If someone beat Brock right now, then that guy would be the new beast and would have to be as powerful and a great fighting background just like him.

i agree i just dont like lesnar i dont like him in wwe n i dont like him in ufc i dont think he deserved to beat the streak he dosent deserve the current spot he has i dont think hes really all that in the ring maybe he could be if he actually tried n put in an effort but he doesnt n i think hes kinda over rated in mma he got his ass whooped by cain velasquez n left ufc hes a good ameture wrestler but thats it not a very good striker he has no submission game wich is why i think him using the kumora in wwe is a joke cuz he couldnt really pull that off to save his life i just all around just dont like or respect lesnar at all

Lalos, you just proved that you don't know shit about Brock. 1- have you ever seen his matches before his return? He has more moves and was faster, but creative wants him to be an mma monster and he can not do anything about that. 2- He left UFC because he had just gone through an operation that made his belly more weak which difficulted his performance in UFC. 3- Undertaker himself already said that he was the one to choose Brock to break the streak, so blame him, not Brock.

+stormproductions67 yes i rember brock before he left and thats when like i said he actually put an effort into his matches wich he doesnt do anymore u can blame creative n sure they play a part in that but if brock actually wanted to put an effort in im sure he could do more if he wanted but instead its just suplex suplex suplex F5 n thats it its boring n brock n all his fans like can blame the operation for him leaving ufc but i feel like thats just an excuse n a copout plenty of other guys come back in mma after injuries and/or surgeries but he got his ass kicked n left i doubt that it was just a coincidence lastly i havent heard that undertaker ok'd brock breaking the streak but if thats true im a more ok with it but i still dont think he deserved it maybe its because taker is my favorite of all time n i dont like brock at all but i just feel like 1 the streak shouldnt have even been broken in the first place i think taker deserved that huge accomplishment of being undefeated at WM but if it was his choice i can respect that but that brings me to point #2 i think they coulda found somebody more deserving of that honor they coulda used it to really elevate someone like bray wyatt i dont think a part timer like brock really deserved it in the end like i said i just really dont like brock n that probably wont ever change

Lalos, do you actually watch wrestling?

Roman isn't even a heel. Eva Marie is a heel by default, the bitch just can't wrestle. And I'm assuming that you're talking about John Cena. He isn't turning heel ever. Whoever thinks that is crazy.

and Floyd Mayweather

+victor thompson Adrien broner?

+James Crabbe yeah IG lol bit he seems like acts like that but the others it feels like it comes out naturally and those of the best type of heels