Are these new Lutron switches worth the upgrade? 

Wonderful! Congrats on the new home, now with some great new smart switches.

Seconding this! I moved into my first home in August and had always planned to kit my house with Lutron when it came time. The timing worked out pretty well that these switches were available as soon as I was ready to start installing Lutron in my home. I love how unassuming they look and the dimmer switches are much more intuitive than the older style

Thanks! Based on the Caseta Wireless website, it looks like a new Claro style pico is coming soon. We'll see...

Use Lutron Bridge is required at least for setup. Once you've set it up you can actually disconnect the bridge if you don't need remote access or scheduled lighting

Nice!! Based on the website it looks like pico remotes are coming soon so you are probably in luck.

Can you mix one with normal (dumb) 3 or 4 way switches and control w software without swapping smart switches into all 3 or 4?

@@griffindeluce Not exactly sure what you're asking, but let me give a better example... I have an upstairs hallway that has 3 switch locations. I originally swapped out the standard US toggle switches of a Caseta dimmer (original model) and two Pico remotes. Problem is a Pico remote counts towards the 75 devises limit in Lutron. Since we never dim the lights in that hallway, but I still want control, replacing the original Lutron dimmer with the new Diva dimmer and putting back the 3-way and 4-way switch's in the other two locations freed up two devices that I can now use somewhere else in the house. I would not do this in all locations as there are many places I do want to be able to dim lights from all the locations on that circuit (dimmer & Pico combination). If I get your question, no you can not use a standard switch on a circut with the original Caseta dimmer because if someone flips the switch in the other location it will kill the power to the dimmer. With the original dimmers you are basically not using the wires in the the walls and your are using the Pico in the remote location. With the New Diva Caseta dimmer you need to do a wiring modification in the remote location to loop power back around so the dimmer does not loose power when that remote switch is used.

Okay, Clarificarion 3 ways can use 1 smart and 2 dumb. 4 or more ways require 1 smart diva dimmer and all others use a Claro accessory switch.

Yes good point!

Yeah i just swapped out 18 switches in my house to the casetas. Over 1k 😢

They were already priced way too high. 60 bucks for lutron caseta was ridiculous to begin with. Now the diva is priced higher. Why?

Don’t look at the RadioRA switch price

@@SpartanBrass no freakin huh

This is not for you buddy. Lutron works, period! $15 switches do not have a hub. By not having a hub you add multiple devices to the network. Also also when u dim multiple lights they wouldn't be in sync.

I'm not sure about having two smart switches like that in a 3 way. You should be able to replace your existing Caseta switch with a Claro style one to match the non-smart switch style though.

@@EricWelander Well, I guess I could just use the new companion switch on my existing three-way switches that don't use a dimmer. I only have one 3-way switch that is on a dimmer and I used the Lutron Caseta PD-10NXD-WH dimmer switch with a Lutron Claro CA-3PS-WH for the other side (to just turn on and off the light, the dimmer controls the brightness). This is for a Ceiling Fan light. I am wondering if I can replace the Claro CA-3PS-WH with the new companion switch when it is eventually released. Do you think that will be possible? Or should I use the new Lutron Claro switch to replace the original Claro switch?

The Maestros really are the best switch out there. Kills me that for whatever reason Lutron refuses to make a 21st century smart version.

Yes it does! That's a great detail that I didn't mention in the video.

@Eric Welander I have 50 caseta switches picos all together, nothing can beat lutron, even the new lutron lol

all Lutron products require a hub for smart control

Lutron is compatible with HomeKit. I doubt that it uses thread though

The light bar goes to 20%

@@estusflask982 Thanks for the reply - Here is what I'm trying to understand, lets say the slider is at 90% and the light is at 90%, using the app you change it to 20%, the light changes to 20% but the slider stays at 90%. Now you move the slider from 90% to 80% - Does the light jump to 90 then slow fade to 80%? or does it just slow fade from 20% to 80%?

yes

this also allows you to do that

In the meantime, we need shallower / thinner smart switches!

Same… I did not want to rely on the pico remote, I prefer it using a traveller wire for 3way

I have the same issue with 3-way installs. I tried the Eve 3rd gen and had so many issues I ended up returning them. Lutron and pico were good but not preferred. I really want a good 3 way switch and a dual switch in a single gain smart switch.

Daniel I hope you can find some local stock soon. Yes I agree Eric a single gang dual paddle switch like Aqara makes would be nice to see in more places. Personally I've gone with pico remotes for my three way switches but I agree it kinda feels like a hack vs actual switches on either end.

The slow ones are horrible. Im a worker and dont have time for that!

They are only at Home Depot

RadioRa 3 was a good choice. The one thing my wife really liked was how our Caseta Pico could have a preset on the middle button which we used to dim the main floor cans really low in the eventing. The Ra3 Keypads are that 4x. This is why I don't care so much about dimming sliders because ive found I don't use them I tend to stick with presets that we love.

@@hmurchison8123 RadioRA3 works great for me. It's just a little annoying that you have to jump through hoops to get the software and buy the switches. I still use the pico for wireless 3-way switches in places where I didn't have the wiring. I wish Lutron had a pico-like remote control that's more aligned with the Sunnata looks. Definitely considering adding keypads to some rooms. I am only hesitating because of the price tag

Understandable but something I don't know. Maybe someone else will see this who knows more about UK boxes and these switches.

No, that's the benefit of the fader on the right. If you don't want to blind your partner at night, make sure the fader is low before switching it on. This is precisely why Lutron didn't make the lights instantly turn on whenever the fader is touched--because accidental bumps would turn the lights on and would be a huge annoyance at night.

@@Brimstin guess I misunderstood

I’ve been all in on Apple for over 10 years. The Lou Tron hub for me was flawless. I agree with you. They need to adopt matter. However, I think a lot of things are coming to the smart homes in the next five years and at some point, you have to take the plunge. I feel confident that Lutron we’ll have decent compatibility down the road

Totally agree. My issue is the hubs add another thing to my already expansive network. I’m waiting for hub-less solution :). Ive tried Lutron, Eve and a few others and by far Lutron has been the best in terms of reliability.

The Lutron Hub with their Clear Connect technology is what makes the system so robust. I don’t see them changing that anytime soon.

Agreed with Phil, also they integrate with basically everything

Lutron is listed as part of the Matter Alliance. Perhaps next weeks CES will have Lutron show their roadmap.

They do, they make the Sunnata-style dimmer (touch) but only in the higher lines like RadioRA 3 and Homeworks. If Lutron eventually makes a Sunnata dimmer in the Caseta wireless lineup they can take all my money lol.

That’s a function of the lights though.