I'll take my chances. I love my tire garden and my ground garden equally. Let's talk about what the big food companies put in your food you pay for at the store or even how food is treated before you buy it.
I have used tire stacks in my garden for over 10 years. My potatoes do not taste like tires, my carrots do not taste like tires. Neither do my beans, corn, cucumbers melons, nor do my tomatoes taste like tires. If the tires do leach chemicals, which I doubt they do, then I am hurting no one but myself. That makes it no one's business to criticize or judge me for my gardening methods. I have gardened organically most of my life counting my family's garden when I was a child and my personal garden since 1972. Road pollution is far worse for you than growing a few veggies in tires.
Seems to me even if some of those things make it into the plant, it would be a very negligible amount. Breathing the dust while driving down the road every day is probably much worse.....
My favorite playground equipment was the gaint tire painted yellow or green half burried in the asphalt. On good days I climbed on top. On bad days I hid inside watching the spiders. In loving memory of surviving all those childhood dangers, I will paint, upend, and half burry a tire in my over-the-top organic vegetable garden. I may sit on it dreaming about the long ago days when I stood inside the tire.
I remember playing in a playground with giant tires when I was a kid as well. I loved those and marveled at the thought that any tire could be so huge.
Some people just look for a reason to criticize. It's easier to pick apart someone who is actually doing something than it is to do something on their own. I'm so happy with the way you handled this.
From my observations, life in the soil (which equates to the health of the soil, which equates to health of the plants in that soil) appears to be unaffected around a tire in the garden, as long as there is mulch, and organic matter, and moisture, and live roots, which soil life needs to thrive. There is, undoubtedly, some degree of breakdown in the rubber of a tire over time, just as there would be with any material, but this breakdown appears to be negligible. As for leachate of chemicals from the tires, yes, probably, to some degree, but It seems to me that any leaching of chemicals from tires used in a garden is going to be extremely minimal. Probably no more than you would get from using plastic mulch, or plastic lumber for raised beds. I think the bigger question here is if a minuscule amount of chemical leachate is taken up by the plants. I'm not a molecular biologist, but my understanding is that plants do not take up the molecules of most toxins. They do not have digestive systems like humans, which can be so adversely affected by molecular toxic intake. It is the biological life in the soil that makes nutrients available to the plants. If the soil biology is healthy and active, it is going to give the plants what they need to grow. The soil biology is not going to pass on any leachate chemicals. If, however, the leachate chemicals kill the soil biology, well then, that's a different story. We are talking about VERY minuscule amounts of chemical l leachate from a tire. I'm confident that the soil biology can deal with such substances, and wholesome food can be grown in a tire garden. :-)
To garden with tires or not, that is a good question but J A points out the obvious, make a soil test and once and for all put this silly back and forth jibber jabber to rest.
Look at this Young Buck! Been following you for a few months, and I love your stuff. Just decided to look into raised tire beds again, given the rising costs of EVERYTHING, and I find this smooth baby faced David. I've seen reports that the tires diffuse their toxicity within the first few months of use, and anything after that is extremely negligible. Tires also help us up north grow things much earlier than we'd be able to in the ground.
You are making me nostalgic for the tractor tire gardens my relatives always had on the farm. They planted flowers in them. My cousin even had a stack of different sizes for a gorgeous flower sculpture. She always painted the outside so they wouldn't overheat.
people people people.. be smart and improvise what you saw, observed and learned.. if you are concern that carcinogens might seep into your plant, don't plant edible plant.. vegetable leaves plants, vegetable fruit plants, fruit plants, you name it.. if there are any part of the plant that you want to harvest to be ate, the don't plant them in the tires.. plant something else, flower plants, fragrant plants, companion plants, pollinator-attracting plants, insect-repelling plants, heavy-oxygen-provider plants and many many more.. think outside of the box, don't be too rigid, think more flexible-ly...
Are your garden hoses leaching chemicals? How about your drip tubing? How about the treated lumber used to make raised beds? You can make yourself crazy thinking too much... How about the chemicals fed to the cows and now in the manure you spread on your garden? Impossible to get away from nasty stuff these days I think. Not going to worry about tires. Good video.
I have grown potatoes in tire towers and found no difference In the flavor of the potato. I stopped using tires because they are just too much work for me at this time. (I am 72.) I find it much easier to grow them in a furrow filled with leaves and straw. I can harvest them at any time without harming the plant. What is the problem with straw bale gardening? I would like to try that but cannot find any straw bales in my area of Florida. I can get hay but choose not to because I consider it a food source for animals and not a waste product like straw. Thanks for the additional information from the other gardeners that have researched the question of good or bad. Have a great day and may your yams grow tall and bear heavily.) 'D
@@kimjones2056she has Tire 🛞 eating problem. They have a 12 step program for it. She needs help.. she needs our love, and she doesn’t need our criticism
I think we're all doing the best we can, with the resources we have. The amount of chemicals leaching into soil is likely negligible, but everything is a trade off. What we shouldn't do, is live a fear-based life. We should just make the best choices for our own situation. Maybe that means tire gardens, maybe it doesn't.
The straw bales I used in Alabama were from a small organic farmer. He grew a small amount of grain for personal use and would sell some of his straw bales to gardeners. I know about the herbicide application and thought there was another reason to not use the straw bales. Always know your resources and where they come from. Very true also when trying to obtain manure. Almost impossible for small growers like myself to get uncontaminated material to add to their gardens. Thanks for another good video.
Old tires that are not flexed will dry out on the surface and begin to crack. Like old tires on a truck that hasn't moved in years. The reason this happens is because the various chemicals bound up in the tires DO leach out as a tire rolls and flexes keeping the outside from drying out. An old tire that has been sitting in the sun for a few years is probably not going to leach any chemicals if placed on the ground and essentially nothing happens to it. However a fresh tire, or even an older tire that is suddenly flexed all the time will most likely leach chemicals. Just like the ground up tires killing everything in the water samples, the aquatic life was exposed to fresh rubber from inside the tire. However, if the experiment had involved exposing the aquatic life to unadulterated tires, then more than likely nothing would have happened. While you might be able to get away with it under the right circumstances, it's just a good idea to avoid them. Build walls or something, not beds.
David, this isn't about the video. I just want to be sure you and yours are safe. I've been seeing all the information about Hurricane Irma on face book and the weather channels. I don't know exactly WHERE you are just that you are out of the US and in a tropical area near the sea. I hope you are keeping an eye on this monster storm unless you are happily no where near it! In the event you are in it's path, please stay safe and when it passes let us know how the permaculture techniques you used stood up!
Never mind raised beds, by the sound of it these people are so worried about the damage tyres are doing to the planet that they refuse to travel by car, I mean, they must right? Active tyres would release far greater amounts of carcinogens into the water supplies. :/
@@davidthegood I have kept horses all my life ... the best compost machines & fun exercise. I have a few tyres with vegetables in them. I want to do another garden & wondering what to use. I want to work raised as it has a number of benefits
I have a tire garden!! 63 double tire planters, to create walls for the garden beds and to recycle all the tires my dear departed husband refused to pay the fee for when he got new tires! I love my tire garden (according to most resources, yes inert unless tire is cut or punctured). Since I live in a wash in the middle of the southern california desert and the sandy, rocky soil is almost impossible to dig into I also have raised beds lined with very old railroad ties (they have lain out here in the sun since the 1940's and are bleached). My garden is now going into it's 4th year (I am 70 ) and my goal is year round food. So far, July, August and September are the big challenges.
I never believe Tires is Toxic sames the plants grow will....if a material s is toxic...it will not grow well sames my vegetable plant in tires is totally
i have an appreciation for your response to criticism, it was refreshing. Additionally you can still use the tires for non-edibles .. or perhaps if you line the tires with a few layers of weed cloth or even a really sturdy tarp it seems that should be fine.
I thought about tire garden planter for about 6 seconds, yes fast and easy but whole reason I grow organic, hand pick bugs off and use natral substances and compost is to be healthy, so not worth the risk, non treated wood would be better for my purposes.. Love your video but honestly never took offense on your use of tire in the first place.
Definitely think to err on the side of caution? That would be my choice, especially after putting in all the love and labor to bring a crop to harvest. Something that has not been brought up, that may be relevant, is that plants are sometimes used to mop up chemical contaminants in soil... a process called phyto-remediation. Their harvest is not eaten, but disposed of. For example: rice will suck up cadmium from soil, tea will grab fluoride. Stuff like Indian mustard was used in Chernobyl. Not sure if this is applicable to substances found specifically in tires, but it is something to consider.
The tyre is just a convenient and cheap/ free container for soil. You can easily separate the two, right? How about just putting a bag of compost in the tyre and opening it up at the top and adding a few holes at the bottom for drainage? The bag will effectively block any potentially dangerous substances from leaching into the growing medium and can be replaced or rebagged when needed.
i was thinking about using old tires for raised beds, but listening to your post, i changed my mind, i'm growing organic, i don't need tires to look at in my garden., think i'll donate them to Nelson Kennedy RaceWay, they use them as a guardrail fence~thanks
In my area, they chop up tires to put on children's playgrounds to keep the weeds from growing under swings, slides, etc. I have always wondered just how safe this was for our children. I would not use tires to grow food. I do have a couple for non edible flowers. I like the idea of recycling also, I just don't use it to grow my food. Better safe than sorry. thanks for all the research you did. Wonderful video!
I personally do not want to use tires for gardening except perhaps flower gardening. I also think it's each person's decision to decide. Everyone needs to do their homework to decide what is right and wrong. Some people like being critical while others are concerned and want to voice their opinion. I love the information and the humor you have on your videos. I also want to mention that I love your music. I always make sure I listen to the end to hear what kind of music you play. Haha
Well on this side of the pond , we see nothing wrong with using Tyres for either vegetables or flowers as a growing container . In fact we should focus more on recycling . How do the sceptics among you cross the road , because you could get hit by a car or even breathe in the fumes that they emit that could cause issues with breathing over time .
I would think new tires would be really bad, That new tire smell is them off gassing, after years of use they would stabilize their rate degrading to some degree. If you kept the sun off them it would slow it more. But I agree, its not worth taking the chance.
Someone who is not me, worked for a tire company. I doubt the relative danger compared to everything else we live with and ingest is a showstopper. However, I would not risk it with food, especially food fed to kids.
USALibertarian LOL you are so right pesticides and stuff like round-up in our food is much better than stuff grown in a tire that has been baked in the sun for years.
i use tyres to grow my herbs and rhubarb i line all the tyres with a thick liner , my basil tastes like basil ,i don't eat rhubarb , i've never had a tyre rot and some have been down 5 years, i grow flowers in the older ones
Because these toxins are present in the tires does not mean that the plants uptake these into the plants themselves. I think the plants themselves should be tested for the chemicals in order to prove or disprove the dangers claimed here.
I personally would not use a tire but my belief on gardening is its better for someone to grow a garden in any way than not. If a tire makes that happen then atleast they are growing their own food
My social security is $800 a month. With the cost of lumber I could probably build myself about one raised bed a year. With the hyperinflation coming I'm going to need to make raised beds to grow all of my food very very soon. luckily I have lots of land, unfortunately it is mostly rocks. I can get old tires for free. if it's not going to kill me I'm going to use it. Because lumber $$$$ is not an option. And I'm 64 so gathering up rocks to build raised beds will take the rest of my life.
@@davidthegood how do you keep rabbits and other little critters from your crops? Specifically I'm having problems with my pineapple plants right now, they eat every single one down to the ground!
I don't care about tires either but I am very thankful to see that you have shaved your lower lip. I have no evidence to support this, but my hypothesis is that a soul patch is a carcinogen....I plan to spread that around that internet in hopes that my children can someday live a world free from soup patches. I'm glad we can put that silly phase of your live behind up......much like those bad haircut pictures that are in our high school yearbooks, years from now, people will look back and wonder why they every thought it looked good.
I like my tire garden really cheap way to plant a garden on my low ground I'm up to 70 tires. Had an awesome summer crop about to plant my fall crop. I somehow doubt that this will be what kills me
I use tires in the winter to trap heat around the root zone of my yearling trees. I pack the tire with news paper and grass clippings, I only add a plastic tarp shield if its going to dip below the 30's.
If tires are “more” toxic in its grounded up state, then why do we build our farm that feed the world by high ways and roads. Road dust consists of deposits of vehicle exhausts and industrial exhausts, particles from tire and brake wear, dust from paved roads or potholes, and dust from construction sites. Road dust is a significant source contributing to the generation and release of particulate matter into the atmosphere. Plus, there is zero cases that a person got some type of carcinogen using an old tire in their garden. If that’s the case tires would have a label that is know to California that causes cancer or birth defect or reproductive harm. I say if you have an old tire use it in your garden!
If you are worried about tires leaching carcinogens into your soil and getting into your food, use them strictly for your pollinator attracting flowers.
Nothing like getting all your minerals in one mouthful I say!!!! 😜😜😜 I’m a big fan of recycling so I say use the tyres (you could always seal them???) above ground- hanging, wall mounted??? and if you’re truly concerned about being poisoned then DONT grow edibles in them!!!! FYI What do you think your inhaling/ingesting/ living in now???? BTW what do you suppose happened to all the tyres from 50yrs ago??? Hell 40, 20,10 years ago (all the blow outs, flats, bald tyres) don’t ya think we have already consumed, polluted the immersed ourselves!!!! rant over- 😊😊😊
You'd also think that the food pyramid is a great idea since it was promoted heavily by "experts," but it isn't. I doubt the tires are that toxic, but I don't like the litter.
I've just recently found your channel (like a week ago) but I have to say you're doing a great job and I'm sorry people need to pick apart others. That being said, my hubby just asked me last night if we should do a potato garden in the early spring in a tire bed. I'm glad for your video so now I know I should probably just work from our raised bed. We live in the foothills of NC and it's all clay dirt here. Thank you for your video!
Welcome, Tricia - glad you're here. You might try throwing down lots of leaves and wood chips in the fall and letting it rot through the winter. That helped my clay gardens in Tennessee.
Well David, In viewing this episode about planting vegetables in tires; I would probably not grow veggies, but flowers, trees, and ornamental plants, what's the harm here. Plus it takes care of the tires which need something to be useful for after the tread wears thin. Just saying. Thanks
I guess a good tip would be to only grow plants that produce their fruit out of the ground in the case of tire gardens so you don't get any "flavoring" from the tire.
I think it's a matter of personal preference. If it doesn't bother you, than do it. If you have doubts regarding the toxicity of the tires, then don't do it.
Hi. Can i use full size tyres as gardens for flowers only. Not ground up tyres. The flowers are for pollination and displays in the backyard. Many thanks Venece Townsville North Queensland Australia
IDEA/QUESTION: How about lining the tire with something (I don't want to say what, in case it is toxic ;)....Any ideas? I just brought down 10 tires from my workshed, left over from previous owners 16 yrs ogo...and i really have to time to create raised beds, as i'm using my COVID time to catch up on crucial life things. However if I could use my tires, to plant some sustenance, would be reassuring. Our food chain is hanging on by a string....
oh i was born in Akron,Ohio 1949, the smell of rubber chemicals use to permeate the air back in those days. you'd go outside and could smell Akrons rubber, it stunk bad.reeked. i think tires belong on the road not in the garden
I hate when there is a bunch of conflicting info on things i just started doing-_-. I mean can't people just run a soil test to clear this up? I just started using some tires to put peppers in due to poor soil and lack of funds to build something different. Well, whateveri'm committed to this now so i'm not changing anything and it's still has uses as a place to grom flowers and ornamental i guess.
I'd rather grow my own in a tire (if need be ) than eat some of the stuff (you know who) sold at grocery. As far as tire taste. I can imagine in very hot summers. Rubber becomes soft and may leach out. Too many factors.
omg LOL you big meany . how could you? ,upscaling reusing and recycling things? its just wrong you using rocks without their permission to make your raised beds. how do you know those rocks may be afraid of heights .LOL on a serious note my grandma (vavao) had tire gardens ALL ALONG THE ROAD. with gorgeous flowers in them . years LATER I found out why. it was to keep hotrod kids and my grandfather vavo from driving on her lawn and herb / kitchen garden . in the early 70s they were painted with leftover boat paint( lead paint) . but in conclusion thanks for the ride down memory lane and keep up the great work
🌱👀🌱I thought that may have been the case. It makes sence that somthing toxic could be unsafe. Never understood why people used tires and now I still don't lol. Thank you for your time invested in researching thease study for us 👍👍
David, there's only One good, of course. But you ain't ALL bad! If you make it back to Echo, and there's an Echo left....and an LNL left, I'd love to buy you a coffee or a wheat grass...or a spiced rum of your choice! And, Tire Tast'n Taters is Terrible! Or so I imagine. I have been wondering... What percentage of your family's food do you estimate that you grow yourselves? His blessings, brother carpenter.
Thank you - I would enjoy that. Coffee, most definitely. Percentage? Probably about 50% right now. I've had a hard time growing green vegetables such as cabbage, pok choi, etc. We get a lot of fruit so we don't buy any, but we do buy meat and vegetables. I did a lot better growing vegetables in Florida.
idk...Considering the chemicals used in industrial farming, of both green or red flesh, which supplies most of the food intake world-wide, & is leached into waterways, soils, mulches, etc., thereby most of the 'wildlife' as well, and Human/creature/plant still exist...??? Are we all as healthful as we could be? Probably not. Will mass-production methods change anytime soon? Probably not. Will we die off using tires for garden boundaries on home farms? Probably not. We will have better stats in a hundred years or so...lol Blessings to good food grown with Love...cuz "Love conquers all", No?
I thought about repurposing tires as well, until I read up on it. ~~~~~> |...There Are Better Options Than Using Tires in the Garden - Written By Lucy Bradley Disposing of old tires is an environmental and economic challenge that has led to a variety of creative strategies for repurposing the treads into new useful objects including containers for children’s gardens. While this does keep tires out of landfills, and it can be an inexpensive way to create a raised bed, there are some potential risks. 😮🤢Tires contain aluminum, cadmium, chromium, copper, iron, magnesium, manganese, molybdenum, selenium, and sulfur, as well as a high level of zinc. They also contain plasticizers and accelerators used during the vulcanizing process. In addition, rubber can also absorb heavy metals like lead. As tires breakdown, these toxic substances leach out, contaminating the soil, the plants, and leaching through storm water into creeks and lakes. Over time, this could pose health risk for gardeners or those consuming the produce. Contaminants can be breathed in; they can be absorbed through the skin; or consumed...|👎
as long as you don't use the tires for edibles - at least that's how i'd use them. p.s. i caught at the very end: _"and curse sir walter raleigh, he was such a stupid git"_
David....so you are not a 'GOOD' boy, but a BAD Boy, some think; BUT, we still LOVE YOU, 'GOOD' or BAD 😂 BUT, what are you suppose to do now, RETURN it to the Ocean? (OH, my husband likes the Chats by the Jack Fruit)
I filter my coffee through homemade tire-based coffee filters. Maybe that's why whenever someone throws rocks at me ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-XjuMFfRvuMs.html happens.
