I’ve begun reading his books. They resonate deeply within my psyche! I’m hungry for more of this teaching. What an engaging soul he is, on paper and “live action” on RU-vid! Loved this so much! 🦋
What a time to find this, I lost my mother recently, my dad died last year and now I am feeling my mortality. I am asking myself questions I had always ignored. Mr. Freke you make a lot of sense.
A great talk...well presented and logically sound. TED have flagged this because it falls outside of material reductionism but that's a philosophical position and Tim is presenting another one which is more coherent. Keep up the great work, Tim.
A great talk...well presented and logically sound. TED have flagged this because it falls outside of material reductionism but that's a philosophical position and Tim is presenting another one which is more coherent. Keep up the great work, Tim. 10
Thank you Tim - you are one of the clearest , inspiring and comprehensive spiritual teachers that helps me every day of my life . Your views on integrating science and spirituality are refreshing. I feel at last I can have an integrated narrative that has intellectual credence as well as the mystery. Your way of expressing that much of life is embracing two apparent opposing aspects at the same time is such a relief. I keep re-reading your latest book, Soul Story, It is so clearly and beautifully written and set out. Your contributions to helping many see life in a positive and deeper loving way are much appreciated. Much love
If one pursues science to its final stage, the Unity and aliveness of life will become evident, nay, obvious. Science in this sense is not a social paradigm, rather it is only known to those who fully investigate the spiritual dimensions which include all other dimensions. Take the 5 sheaths in yoga. Anna maya is physical, made up of food. Manomaya is mental activity, thots which in the physical realm. Then follows the prana maya or energy body. Then we have the Vijnana maya sheath, which is refined subtle intellect leading to transcendence into non-physical "dimensions.' The Bliss body or Ananda maya is definitely non-physical. The bliss body is the substratum of the previous sheaths. It supports the denser dimensions of expression. This principle can be demonstrated through spiritual healing, which emphasizes the underlying imbalances known in Ayurveda as the doshas...Vata, Pitta and Kapha doshas. By balancing them and pacifying them, the body heals itself.
Brilliant... simply brilliant . this video is the best ted talk I have ever heard or watched. I think this could be the key to a better life for both communities and individuals.
What a great speaker, with what could be a hard subject to explain. But so well delivered, and yes made sense out of something I have always found hard to look deeply into.
Tim has so clearly articulated some of my most deeply held, nearly life-long beliefs about the relationship between the physical and spiritual aspects of the conscious experience that is my life. I have always seen them as inseparable. With respect, valued TED curators, I am truly dismayed that you have chosen to flag this talk. I am unable to find any conflict with your published guidelines. Further, I have watched countless TED Talks in which the speakers, in an effort to encourage expanded thinking, have offered numerous personal opinions and theories. Finally, as a scientist, I have yet to find any scientific research effort that wasn't initiated or sustained by someone's personal understanding and theories.
I love this guy ! He's brilliant and he has humor, and I can follow his thoughts easily "although" he is a philosopher. Thank you offering us Tim Freke.
This also fits in with my life long theory, that everything we create is a 'realisation' of what is to come, and that we can reverse engineer what we have invented to discover this realisation.
Wonderful talk opening a space for exploration. Love the reference to ancient Greek philosophy in this context… Psyche was the goddess of the soul and the wife of Eros god of love, their ‘eventual’ union considered divine. The inference being the further evolution of love from psyche.
As always just wonderful to listen to. Thank you Tim! And when it comes to this talk being flagged by TEDx "for falling outside of their curatorial guidelines, and because this talk only represents the speaker’s personal understanding and theories", is this not what TEDxtalk is all about - to have us listen to as many different speakers and thinkers possible - expressing their own ideas and views of the world?
Wonderful talk, great ideas and research and well presented. I have seen many talks which are very good discussions flagged these days. Difficult to determine why?
One freak to another freke... awesome... many worlds, many dimensions... einstein was all over it, but world events upset him at an age that he did not want to know anymore... its interesting how some say he got physics wrong.. no he didnt... that was a 100 years ago and he only had books and a blackboard and chalk... naysayering is endemic to the spirit of competition.. albert did not have to compete.. human nature became the human race... anyhow, great talk dude, i liked it a lot.. (enough to comment). Cheers
Great talk, Tim! You are suggesting that this soul evolution is the most emergent reality that we are perceiving subjectively. You said NDEs and other life experiences give us the feeling or indeed experience of this new dimension or realm. Would you also suggest that the subjective reality and the objective reality (non-dual formless oneness) could merge together (in our experience) and that, as part of this new evolution, we could experience life in potentially limitless dimensions? Thanks! :)
Props to Tim Freke - very clear talk, and i couldn't do what he does. I do have thoughts about these ideas though: given that everything that has evolved so far has been on a physical substrate then it's not easy to see how the jump to "soul" with no physicality might occur. Isn't this the hard problem of consciousness? Narrativity as an external driver of meaning sounds very much like another try at God. And an eternal afterlife as a soul alongside Narrativity sounds like another try at Heaven per abrahamic religion. It would be valuable to consider who it is experiencing all this matter and psyche/soul, and what experience might be like without a body - no sensation, no sight or sound, no dopamine, adrenaline, excitement, joy, disappointment. Some kind of pure mental world? For me, I'm coming round to an Idealism where consciousness is primary. This accords well with the experiences of mystics all round the world and from all traditions. The religious stories of our childhoods are fine teachings, but point to none of the deep insights and freedoms that the many consciousness-first methods provide.
Oh and NDEs. NDEs provide brilliant stories, change people's lives, but surely prove nothing about what happens when we die. The clue is in the name: NEAR- death. Not actually dead. Even if there's no brain activity for a while, there's brain activity before and after, and no way to tell when the experiences occurred. Why do we persist with believing NDEs show what happens after death?
And of course the Cloud analogy - the Cloud isn't some non-physical data store, it's just somebody else's computer in a big datacentre somewhere. You might ask who's managing that for us?
@@RichLee_laughingblade I agree. But NDEs are worth examining never the less. I'm not in the business of proving life after death. I'm interested in presenting a rational spirituality that accounts for it without being woo-woo and if you look a little deeper into my work, I think I have at least succeeded in this.
@@RichLee_laughingblade Yes. Like most analogies it fails eventually. It is shorthand. I think the point you are missing in evaluating my ideas Rich is that I am not treating existence as fundamentally ''matter"... but following trends in physics rather as 'information'. The Materialist perspective was discredited over 100 years ago.
@@TimFreke1 thanks for replying Tim. I've only watched the talk once, but did you not suggest that NDEs support the idea of a possible psyche-only existence? Of course with a brief talk it's almost impossible to do more than get the basic ideas across, and the audience was very receptive to that. I'd be interested to explore your work that does take a more rigorous approach: where would you suggest I start?
@@TimFreke1 it is a lot to take in, I was watching The Crown last night, an episode where Philip is moved by a moon mission and confronted by faith, this is where I feel I am as a person. Looking at lost faith and why.
@@robertahvieira Funnily enough my wife and I were watching that also. My hope with my work (philosophical and experiential) is to give a rational basis for genuine 'faith' in the meaning of existence.
I saw Tim's name on a Ted Talk being promoted in our group, and I remember years ago reading "The Jesus Mysteries" great book. Now Great talk, wonder where he has been between.
the home of consciousness is the astral body. We become too attached to the physical body. We are always in our astral body. We become more consciously aware of this body in a dream state and on the astral planes. Always do good it will benefit you in the long run
That's the traditional way of saying it that I use myself in my older books. I'd suggest we can express the same insight more clearly now while keeping the essential message.
Thanks for your reply and great talk. From what I can understand (I may be wrong) nonduality suggests that consciousness was here first and everything stems from that, whereas you’re saying that matter came first and consciousness or the soul realm evolved from it as a different reality that is a more direct reality?
@@Dhal-SimMusic I am saying something different again actually. I suggest the ground of being is formless, non-dual potentiality that is realising itself in ever more emergent ways. Every individual 'thing', whether an atom or an animal, is subjectively relating to the objective whole. So evolution happens simultaneously subjectively and objectively. Subjective evolution sees the emergence of electro-chemical subjectivity - then sensory subjectivity and conscious subjectivity - and then the realm of the imagination which is a non material realm of emergence.
I recommend removing the flag; not sure how this falls out of TEDx's curatorial guidelines. I had a read, and there's nothing in there to suggest a speaker can't represent their own personal understanding and theories. Plus, by barely a minute in, this speaker has already referred to other scientific and spiritual understanding. The remainder of the talk gives *suggestions* for how we can interpret life, and reconcile science and spirituality - it doesn't strike me as particularly evangelical towards any particular viewpoint. I find many of these suggestions quite interesting and insightful, along with the speaker's account of the "evolution of the soul". So I feel the flag should be removed. I particularly like the idea of the "soul dimension" compared to cloud data storage. Perhaps this is not a separate realm, as the speaker recounts spirituality to have put forward, but rather the imaginary space of people's memories, learned behaviours, even genetic traits affecting behaviours? So when someone dies, their soul is "immortalised" by the impact of their life on those they encountered? That would be more in keeping with the metaphor, since the data cloud is itself actually a larger bank of physical drives sharing information through digital signals - and perhaps even more in keeping with the idea of this "soul dimension" evolving out of the material...?
Not sure,@@VeraGroen-k9e - aren't they more like the tapestries of Greek mythology, suggesting that the material realm follows a pattern prescribed by the spiritual? I see Tim's suggestions here as more in line with Yuval Harari's: as the material/physical evolved, so did the spiritual.
So this falls outside of TED's guidelines of understanding? So would any philosophy inside them? Or they just don't want to believe anything unless it's in a science notebook?
I like Tim, who is clearly a highly intelligent and perceptive man. However my direct perception suggests that he is wrong about "biological life evolving into soul" and so on ... The Reality is that Consciousness - which is actually Divine Consciousness - exists prior to the birth of the human body-mind-personality. And continues to exist, unchanged, after the death of both body, mind and personality. That evolution happens at the level of biology, is probably true. It is also clear that we evolve mentally through our accumulated wisdom, both individually and collectively. But there is zero evolution at the level of Consciousness. For there to be evolution, which is change, there needs to be time through which that change happens. But in the realm of Divine Consciousness there is no time. This is the Reality of what some refer to as "the Now". All that I have written above is not theory or philosophy, or something I read about or heard on RU-vid - but rather comes from direct perception of the Divine timeless realm itself. From that perspective all is simply obvious. Tim, you know who I am and where I am. If you want to get together to explore this I would be delighted to pop down to Glastonbury. Blessings, Leo
I agree, Leo. Tim, by suggesting that consciousness (or the psyche) evolved from matter is postulating the old materialist view. From a Buddhist point of view (I am a Tibetan Buddhist monk), and also from the contemporary view of quantum physicists, the duality between matter and consciousness, the 'real' and the 'imaginary' is false. What you call the "Divine Consciousness" is known as the Dharmakaya in Buddhism. 'It' is universal, timeless, without birth (origin) or death (cessation) and empty of any other qualities or characteristics, yet manifests as the phenomenal world that we experience through the senses. Is 'our' world more 'real' than that experienced by a mosquito, for example?
@@MikeGsaxman Very eloquently and succinctly put. You Buddhist description is perfectly aligned with my perception of Reality. Why Tim has taken this strange path of what appears to be over-thinking is beyond my understanding. He has not responded to my offer to meet in person and discuss, so all that is left is to relax into mystery ... and loving-kindness.
@@MikeGsaxman Only just seen your comment my friend. I know your perspective well having written upwards of 30 books on it. I now think it is wrong. I am writing a book called WHAT IS CONSCIOUSNESS? (And why I was wrong about it.) I'll probably give away as audio on RU-vid in 2020 so look out for that if you are interested. I am not suggesting Materialism at all. There is an alternative to both the traditional spiritual perspective you are articulating and Materialism, which can bring them both together in a new way.