Ares and the Rage of Achilles 

Achilles is the greatest Greek hero, because of the underlying complexity of the character that usually gets ignored.

"Achilles is the greatest of all Greek heroes" ...so true

When reading Achilles bloodlust and rage in chasing down Hector, I too felt energised and enthused.

Ares should have his own video game.

I have always had sense that Achilles was just Ares and Alexander was his next Incarnation.

Yeah, but the only reason we don't see Ares much in the Iliad is because he was sidelined by the hero who picked up the slack while Achilles was pouting in his tent... and once again poor Diomedes gets left out of another film about the Iliad... :)

Love to hear the story of Achilles and Memnon dual !!!

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Terrific video!

Thank you for your good work.

Cheers guys!

That was awesome!!!

At 1:33 Brad Pitt comes out 😂😂🤣

nicely put!!

Someone will say: And are you not ashamed, Socrates, of a course of life which is likely to bring you to an untimely end? To him I may fairly answer: There you are mistaken: a man who is good for anything ought not to calculate the chance of living or dying; he ought only to consider whether in doing anything he is doing right or wrong - acting the part of a good man or of a bad. Whereas, according to your view, the heroes who fell at Troy were not good for much, and the son of Thetis above all, who altogether despised danger in comparison with disgrace; and when his goddess mother said to him, in his eagerness to slay Hector, that if he avenged his companion Patroclus, and slew Hector, he would die himself - "Fate," as she said, "waits upon you next after Hector"; he, hearing this, utterly despised danger and death, and instead of fearing them, feared rather to live in dishonor, and not to avenge his friend. "Let me die next," he replies, "and be avenged of my enemy, rather than abide here by the beaked ships, a scorn and a burden of the earth." Had Achilles any thought of death and danger? For wherever a man's place is, whether the place which he has chosen or that in which he has been placed by a commander, there he ought to remain in the hour of danger; he should not think of death or of anything, but of disgrace. And this, O men of Athens, is a true saying.

Love how Alexander stole Achilles shield

I've seen documentaries about Ares they all said he was stabbed in battle and ran like a bitch

More mythology pls, your narrative presentation is much more professional than other youtubers

I love that Hollywood diss

actually according to homers illiad theres no reference about patroklos and achiles sharing sexual relationship that change in later interpretations most significaly during the rise of the roman empire in the beginning it was started as a significant form of Platonic love

very nice vid!

This was sensational.

Achilles isn't obsessed with war... He questions the whole warrior thing they do and he only fights to satisfy himself in many ways. This analysis completely ignores greek thought at the time period. Warriors expected to fight and to die in battle was immortality... That's it. No Greek writer ever would compare a character fictional or not to a god...

Achilles is the greatest simply because he is undefeated... The greeks don't care about his problems... In fact, several of the comrades try to get him back to fight only to win against troy... Completely disregarded achilles feelings towards getting his stuff taken away... Also there is absolutely 0 reference to any homosexuality in the book... In fact patroclus and achilles both have war brides... Actually that's how the iliad starts... It's about achilles losing his war bride

Diomedes was more bloodthirsty and killed more Trojans and their allies in the Iliad. When Diomedes return home his queen and her lover drive Domedes from Greece who seeks refuge by finding a city in Italy. When Turnus tries to tempt Diomedes to help against Aeneas in Italy, Diomedes counsels Turnus to make peace with Aeneas as Diomedes had soured on combat and making war.

I proud for Achilles

In which book happens the end of the trojan war ?

Yo aphrodite was originally a goddess of war, yall turned her into a goddess of luv

Amazing video 💛⚜ althought the patrian godess of Sparta was the virgin Artemis daughter of Zeus and Leto

I have that picture where he's dragging hector's body above my bed! I noticed in this picture there is a swastika on the wall of troy?

Apollon was the patron deity of Spartans, not Ares

Where/why did the idea that Achilles and Patroclus were lovers come into history? It's explicitly stated in the Illiad that they were cousins?

War is never glorious, there’s nothing there but death and destruction, pain and suffering, and ugliness.

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When in battle, you need the Rage of Ares, got it.

My name is Aris and I'm Greek, thereby carrying the name of who you guys call Ares or Mars. Unnecessary fact. Have a nice day.

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I wish I was as skilled, or skilled in battle than Achilles, my favorite warrior of all-time.

As I understand it the Spartans only sacrificed prisoners of war to Aries early on but then stopped worshiping him all together

Achilles is obviously a incarnation of Ares, all religions clearly states that the Angel's or God's take human form from time to time aka incarnations on earth in human body's Ares,Loki,Lucifer= same entity just different names in different religions

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Achilles is Krishna. Krishna dies from an arrow to the ankle.

Achilles is the best

It makes much more sense if they were lovers

No one should die for self-defense. Hector was innocent, a true brother, & an even better soldier.

Some say Hercules is the greatest Greek hero.

hmm and because he showed mercy he died should have stayed with me we made a great team

Wait..Boyfriend or Cousin? Patroclus was his boyfriend?

Someone please help, I just watched troy, and I read Achilles isn't actually a true story, please someone tell me that it is 😭😭

Hera also loves ares. She is the only reason why zeus didnt kill ares.

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Say what you will the movie troy is one of those movies that does kinda give the characters justice

You’re an ignorant to think Patroclus was Achilles boyfriend…no where this written.

I prefer Diomedes over Achilles. The latter was a mental case.

i didn't die Achilles i went to Egypt

SORRY EVERYONE BUT LORD ARCHILLIUS!!!! His real name! WAS KILLED BY HECTOR ON THE BATTLEFIELD HE WAS JUST A BOY!! WEARING HIS ARMOR HIS LOVER AND TEACHER & TRAINER CAME TO CHALLENGE HECTOR IN A ONE ON BATTLE. (HECTOR WEARY FROM BATTLE STILL ACCEPTS) THE TRAP IS SET FOR (Achilles was trained by the centaur Chiron, who also taught the Greek hero Jason and Achilles' father Peleus.) CENTAUR CHIRON WAS THE ONE WHO KILLED HECTOR AND AVENGED ARCHILLIUS. BOOK OF TRUTHS AND REAL HISTORY......

THANK you for not washing Achilles and Patroclus into heteronormative characters. I am so tired of people believing they are cousins, or friends, or brothers in arms. There are many translations of the Iliad where the text is quite suggestive, such as Achilles referring to Patroclus as his hearts companion, his most beloved, etc. Achilles withdrew from war when Briseis was taken by Agamemnon, and only returned when Patroclus, his lover, was killed in battle. He refused to bury Patroclus, refused to eat or drink for days, and slept with Patroclus’s body in his tent before finally holding a proper funeral after Hector’s death. Patroclus was quite literally Achilles’ weakness, the “Achilles heel”. There are also many parts in the Iliad that talk about Achilles and Patroclus in camp together, patroclus listening as Achilles plays the lyre and sings for him. Though Achilles unleashed his rage upon Troy, it was born from grief and love, not hatred.

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Achilles wasn't gay, him beeing gay is a classical point of vieuw of the book

I thought Heracles is the greatest hero

Watched The movie and blabbering the same here

And another fact.before he went to Troy,Achilles,still young,was hidden in the island of Skyros ,in the Cyclades archipelago by his parents to avoid been conscripted for the Upcoming Troyan war,till Ulysses found him.ofcource the hero didn’t waste his time in the royal court and impregnated his girlfriend,the daughter of the local king.he had a son by the name Neoptolemos,means war.when the war was finally over,he went back to Pthia,claimed his fathers kingdom,that had the name Hellas,and married the exwife of Hector. The Troyan hero that died from the hand of Achilles.they had a son by the name Mollosos.eventually he was overthrown from a rival faction and fled to Epirus,another Greek region an$ his descendants ruled the region.intresting enough one of them was Olumpias,the mothe4 of Alexander the Great.also Pyrrhus a king who fought the Romans in Italy.now the myth that the hero was invulnerable is a later one.in Iliad the hero gets slightly wounded in the course o& th3 battle.and Homer n3ver m3ntioned such a thing.most likely his Panoplia had to do something with that.the same that they were gay.later myths without base.and Patroclus was much older than him.and also a brave and capable warrior.he fights Hector ,kills his charioteer,Hectors brother.fights over his corpse,forces Hector to retreat to avoid to be killed,pushes the Trojans to the walls ,scales the walls but gets thrown down.he is dizzy from the fall and alone,then a Troyan hits him from the back with a spear.the Troyan runs away with fear when Patroclus turned to face him,the wound wasn’t mortal.Patroclus withdraws from the battle alone,Hector saw the aftermath,runs and kills the wounded Patroclus with his spear.he avoided close quarter battle because the wounded lion could still deal death.you won’t see anything like that in the movie ,because they have an axe to grind,called propaganda and misinformation.

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Achilles is a Incarnation of ARES who is Lucifer who is Osiris who is Sanat kumara Alexander the great is also a incarnation of these being they are the same being in every way

Patroclus was his comrade not his lover. This is a misinterpretation that has been created by Hollywood for some spicy drama.

Nah patroclus was like a father to achilles

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Why do all these so called historians, always jump to the conclusion that so and so was the boy friend of so and so? In every version of the Iliad or Alexander or the 300 there is major references to homosexuality. I can see where there could be instances of occurrence, but you would have us believe it was the everyday acceptable behavior of men. I think not.

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I truly pity those who view Achilles and Patroclus' relationship as homosexual. It must really suck to never had experienced a friendship stronger than steel in which you would go insane if your friend was killed.

ACHILLES IS NOT GREEK!!!!!CHECK THIS: Achilles is the son of Peleus and the nymph Tethis. The Peleos was the king of the Mirmidons who, during the Trojan War, lived in Thessaly. Mirmidons had emigrated to Thessaly on the island of Aegina, following a plague epidemic, during the time of Leuus' father, Aeaeus. According to numerous ancient sources, the name of the mirmidons comes from gr. myrmix "ant" word of Indo-European origin, namely from PIE *momro-, *momri- "ant" (Walde-Hoffmann, 1, 531) with Sanskrit cognats and Indo-Aryan, Latin, Armenian, Celtic, Slavic and Germanic languages. Virtually in almost all Indo-European languages. Although the word also existed in ancient Greek, it is also found in Latin (formica) and Romanian (ant), with the passage of m initially to f, through the process of dissimilarity of the two m. And in Greek there are dialectal forms that exhibit the same process of dissimilarity: byrmax, bormax "id", forms probably occurring under the influence of the Pelasge language. Therefore, a similar form must have existed in the pelasga, the ancient Indo-European language from which traco-daca and ilira come. Some researchers have tried to find a Greek etymology to the Achilles anthroponym, namely from the achos "anger, pain" and laos "people, nation", hence "troubled people" or more precisely, being a person's name "the one whose people are troubled", a rather absurd hypothesis, which the researchers have renounced. More recently, the authors of Wiktionary suggest another more plausible etymology, based on Indo-European lexical elements: PIE *ek'-pod- "sharp foot" > proto-traco-ilir. ak'podios > *akhpdios > *akhiddios where dd became ll when it was borrowed from the pelasg (or proto-traco-ill) into Greek. This passage is possible, given that both d and l have the same point of articulation, namely the dental alveoli, therefore Akhileus. Robert Beekes (EDG, 183) points out that Greek lexical elements with double consonants, such as ll, ss, etc. are loans from the pre-Greek substrate, from the Pelasg language, in other words. This hypothesis is as correct as possible since we have lat. acupedius "quick foot", which is consistent with the phrase "Achilles, the quick foot", found in Homer. Therefore, Achilles translates as "the quick one of the foot", anthroponymof the pelasg origin. Homer and some of the Greeks of his time probably knew what Achilles meant, that is, the 'quick foot', in the pelasg, but of course most of them didn't know this. Since about half of the Greek lexicon is of Pelasgal origin, as evidenced by Robert Beekes's Electronic Greek Dictionary, it is obvious that there has been a long period of bilingualism in Greece, a Pelasgo-Greek bilingualism, of course, being assimilated many Pelasgi anus by the Greeks..

Achilles was homosexual?

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That into needs to be scrapped, the Iliad is not comparable to the Bible in influence

People are getting so mad over others saying that Achilles was gay why? People can interpret it as they want, in my opinion, I do believe they were lovers, and obviously there can be anyone disagreeing with it. Though, it would make the grief and anger far more understandable that way. Y'all are talking about "bUt HOMOSExuaLItY bAd In pAST" Yuh, that's why most people in the LGBTQ+ community are looking for those older clues of just the tiny chance of someone actually being gay in the past so they can justify their existence- You are not trying to bring up facts, you are just homophobic if you're getting mad over that. Shame on you and your entire bloodline.

There is actual genealogy that Achilles and Patroclus are cousins. It wasn’t made up by Hollywood. Honestly we keep seeing these two through American eyes and don’t consider how other countries view the closeness of men. Plus Achilles’s anger has been used to show a romantic relationship with Patroclus but I’m pretty sure anyone who had a close best friend who was like their brother or sister would react the same

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Achilles was not gay, nice try though.

Lol bruh Achilles ain’t gay

Ares better than Achilles

"Achilles boyfried"? You kind sir, have never read Iliad and have no idea what you are talking about. I suggest try something else...or find yourself a boyfriend

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It makes much more sense if they were lovers

i didn't die Achilles i went to Egypt