ARGUING WITH AN EXERCISE SCIENTIST |Fouad Abiad, Mike Israetel, Iain Valliere & Mike Van Wyck | 

Holy shit Mike BELONGS on this podcast. He had the boys cackling for over 2 hrs straight. I also dont think i myself have laughed this hard at a bro chat in a long time

3 people tell fouad he’s wrong and he’s like nope sorry don’t believe it 😂😂😂

Please make Dr. Mike a regular. He’s comedy gold AND information gold.

Mike being totally f**ked just makes this episode exceptional

Dr mike and big mike is an UNBELIEVABLE combo. Love the special guests fouad keep em coming

00:01 Promotion for Manscaped 02:28 Discussion about using drugs in bodybuilding 06:13 Origins of the 30 gram protein consumption recommendation 08:06 Protein needs don't scale with body size 11:39 Importance of recovery for muscle growth 13:15 Bodybuilders need more protein than recommended 16:38 One gram of protein per pound of body weight per day is a good guideline for bodybuilders. 18:08 Effects of PD use on hormone growth and muscle development discussed, anecdotal evidence acknowledged butcontextualized by scientists. 20:55 Bodybuilders' protein intake in offseason 22:24 Experiment with protein intake based on personal preferences 25:23 Timing of post-workout meal is not super meaningful. 26:44 Timing can matter for promotion of anticatabolism and anabolic mechanisms 29:43 Breakfast impact on training is individual 31:09 Different approaches to meal timing and composition for muscle growth 34:22 Partial reps in a lengthened muscle may promote growth 36:05 Partial reps can be an effective growth strategy 38:56 Focus on utilizing full range of motion during workouts. 40:30 Proper foot positioning on leg press 43:25 Bodybuilders are open to learning and improving. 44:57 Form over weight for muscle training 48:04 Good technique is important for minimizing wear and tear on muscles and joints 49:42 Debate on the value of partial reps in training. 52:52 Training in extreme stretch positions 54:33 Partial ranges of motion can be effective for training. 57:52 Training depth for bigger quads and potential trade-off 59:22 Resistance training and genetics are key, not right or wrong 1:02:22 Balancing form and weight for muscle growth 1:04:05 Form over depth debate 1:07:30 Adapting range of motion for different experience levels 1:08:54 Importance of proper form before lifting heavy weights 1:12:14 Discussion about favorite fast food choices and health considerations 1:13:58 Discussion on personal preferences in adult content 1:17:08 Discussion of spouses' habits related to porn and self-pleasure 1:18:41 Discussion on sexual slurs and sexual behavior 1:22:01 Discussion on whether repetitive gay acts make someone gay 1:23:44 Discussion on limits of straight men participating in gay activities 1:27:02 Discussion about the legitimacy of Chris Bumstead's 22 million followers. 1:28:45 Chris turns down lucrative offers to build his own brand. 1:31:57 Misconceptions around industry success 1:33:26 Discrediting someone without knowledge 1:36:43 Professional athletes compete to make money and support their livelihood. 1:38:18 Athletes should be rewarded for dedication and success. 1:41:11 Why do people have an issue with Samson buying a new car? 1:42:32 Different perspectives on materialistic things 1:45:37 Importance of taking vacations for relaxation and rejuvenation. 1:47:06 Certified sports medicine doctor with diverse expertise. 1:50:12 Working with spouse as a teammate and coworker 1:51:44 Discussing favorite TV shows 1:55:07 Discussion about Christmas music and traditions 1:56:33 Discussion on the impact of a particular dietary item on digestion. 2:00:00 Concerns about Sam making weight for NPC classic competition 2:01:42 Discussion on gag reflex and aversion to certain types of porn 2:05:02 Discussion on modern dating and relationships. 2:06:36 Preference for bodybuilding over competitive bodybuilding 2:10:02 Discussion about upcoming athlete at Hostile 2:11:59 Frustrations with spouse's habits 2:15:06 Discussion about pet peeves 2:16:37 Discussion on the career and potential of bodybuilders Seth or Luke 2:19:49 Debate on special invites to Olympia 2:21:18 Criteria for special invites to bodybuilding shows

I did not know the two Mikes could exist in the same space without canceling each other out.

Massive fan of Fouad's - "Listening but internally disagreeing" head tilt 🤣 came out in full force today! Lol

This is the greatest episode LOL .. need Dr. Mike as a regular guest!

Ah, Fouad. John was right. He said there are times for full range of motion and times for partials. John didn’t marry himself to one thing, and that’s why John remains so relevant. The stuff he was doing in MountainDog 1.0 is just now becoming mainstream. He was ahead of his time.

Dr. Mike should become a regular special guest. Man is Hilarious 🤣

The best part is when Iain shoved his phone to justify his forms 😂😂

Fouad getting schooled by Dr. Mike while he’s high af is awesome because he’s slowly getting more and more defensive for some reason 😂😂😂

I’m unemployed this is perfect for a Thursday afternoon thanks fouad

Mike Israetel is THAT guy that every single comedian has a story that goes approximately like "the funniest guy I ever met wasn't a stand up comedian, he was just a guy I worked who had a new joke every 5 minutes."

Isy is floating... I can see sounds... Great talk guys! Please more Dr. Mike on the podcast - thats official petition for Fouad.

Dude Dr.Mike “I’m unbelievably high on edibles”🤣🤣🤣

My favourite thing about izy is his analogies. I don’t know if he pulls these out of air on the fly or if he has them pre prepared but they are awesome 😂

I never thought this day would come 🥲 Thank you Papa Fouad for making it my best Christmas this year!

Fouad was so mad when everyone agreed there’s some bodybuilders working out incorrectly lmao

Fouad having his pants pulling down by a Scientist 😂

Fouad is so bothered lol

Thanks for bringing the two Mikes together. They've helped me more than anyone else.

Dr Mike the best fitness influencer and Big Mike Van Wyck the anti-influencer influencer on the same podcast this is a great one!

I've always enjoyed Mike van wyck, but holy shit, newfound respect for the man and his ability to articulate and work through critical points and get his point across well. Amazing listen.

Dr Mike has been blowing up lately a good video with someone who has a lot of knowledge

My two favorite RU-vid channels put together! I never thought the day would come, bro Chat + Dr Mike

Man I love this podcast! You guys are amazing, all of you. Happy holidays everyone!

3 plates on a squat full ROM instead of 6 plate partials will for sure make you crazy gains and more importantly allow you to keep your spine and an ability to walk 😂

OMG Dr. Mike is a comedic genius… that was the hardest I’ve laughed in a while.

What Mike is saying at 11:40 is absolutely true by my own experience. When I started I was aware that training to failure as a beginner was much less intense than training to failure where I am now, 5 years in. I thought I was going insane in the gym during the first 2 years doing tons of sets to “failure”. Now that I’ve been training longer I can barely do 1-2 real sets of failure during each movement without completely exhausting myself. I slowly changed my intensity and amount of sets to failure I do over the past 5 years, but I haven’t seen a decrease in progress at all, if anything I’ve only seen my progress get better as I am able to reach failure faster and train quicker then recover for more time between workouts.

Amazing amazing amazing.really enjoyed the training day with sam and ben please keep that style coming so good to see the diffrent styles and ages and personality all under one hostile banner

Dr. Mike is such a great addition to the pod. I thoroughly enjoyed this one. Thanks boys

What a squad! Thrilled to see Dr Mike back absolutely brilliant addition bless you guys

We need high Izzy on the podcast more this one was perfect for the drive home!

The crossover we were all waiting for! Thank you Fouad and Merry Christmas bros

I love the fact that Big Mike, basically sat back and listened. That’s why I love his thoughts, cause I know it comes from being an amazing student,

Epic day! The comedy, dirty talk and scientific debates this channel usually has is peaking each and every day, that said, having Dr.Mike here is just a gift to us, as he strives tirelessly to max out all 3 of those stats. Thanks so much Fouad. Merry Christmas!

I've been a big Dr. Mike fan for a while now, and it was actually his appearance on Fouad's show earlier this year that introduced me to Fouad. Now I'm a big fan of Fouad, the bros and the whole Hosstile crew, too--which just proves that there's a lot to love in this community. Ya laugh, ya learn. It's a great place to be. Thanks to all!

I've have learned so much from both Mike's and the late great John Meadows, and I'm an old dog. Love your podcasts Fouad 🤘

One of best episodes so far 😂😂😂 DR.Mike 👏🏻👏🏻 hilarious!!

holy shit merry Christmas to me! This is gonna be fun . Thanks for the great podcast excited to watch it

Oohh man this should be a good one. Mike V Mike 😂. Mike Israetel is probably going to make big Mike die of laughter

My favorite episode of Bro Chat so far. So entertaining!

Dr Mike getting the recognition he deserves

Great episode, Dr Mike is a great guest, as are the regular guys (as usual)

I don’t think I’ve ever laughed as hard while learning anything ever.

Easily the funniest Dr Mike podcast of all time

Dr. Mike should be a regular, this is the best bro chat in ages

Fucking hilarious one boys. Gotta have Izzy in the house more often.

Yes!! I’ve always wanted you to do this! Can you bring Dr Adam Hotchkiss on a bro chat too and talk about gear and just laugh?? @dradamhotchkiss

27min in, and I'm dying. I love Mike Israetel, just up my alley of humour. But maybe he's too much for the podcast xD. I love it.

This is One of the best episodes ever guys😂😂💪💪

love van wick sitting back smiling to himself for so much of the back and forth

Holy shit. It’s the bodybuilding equivalent of DC vs Marvel!

I've always wondered what Big Mike and Doc Mike thought about each other! This is gold for me!

Yo! I just got done watching a Dr.Mike video when this came out. When I saw the title come up with him in this, I said out loud, "Oh shit!". This is awesome! My favorite fitness people all in one place

When I heard my question asked it literally made my whole day I couldn't stop smiling thank you guys for everything you do

This has been the funniest bro chat. Genuinely not laughed this much at an ep ever 🤣

Damn, is this bro chat always this funny. I guess it popped up on my recommended because of the two Mikes. Ian and Fouad argue like brothers…hilarious! I will watch more of these.

I been laughing the entire time 😂 I been watching since it started and this one is a great episode

High Dr Mike the perfect addition we never knew existed.. you better find a way to bring him on board

Dr Mike is the best. Love him so much, please keep continuing to bring him on

Mike needs to be a repeat guest, this might be my favorite episode ever

20 mins in and what a way to start! Never seen dr Mike in this light and he makes such an awesome addition to bro chat. Looking forward to the rest of this one. Well done Fouad for asking all the right questions

Izzy’s analogies are like Gordon Ramsay’s analogies when he’s ripping someone’s ass apart 😂

I had no clue Israetel was like this. Think he might be my new favorite human! Love this!

Poor Harry Potter getting roasted on this one 😂😂

mike izzy showing up high af is hilarious

The more Mike Isratel I see the more I like him hahah he’s awesome

Best bro chat yet, Dr Mike is the fucking man!

I haven’t laughed this hard in forever Mike fits so good in with the boys this was great. Much love guys happy holidays appreciate you as always

This devolved so quickly and I loved every minute of it

Thank you Fouad for all the consistently and hard work! We appreciate it🫡

IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS FOR SO LONG! THANK YOU FOUDADDY🙏 DR MIKE IS🐐

Love that both Mike"s are on at the same time

When I saw the group I leterally went "Yeah buddy!!!"

I love how Mike snaps from astronaut to lecturer🤣

Yesss this is the crew I been wanting to see especially big Mike and dr Mike

Dr Mike is the GOAT podcast guest. Glad to see him outside of the typical science sphere

Nothing gets guys more heated than talking about squat depth

Welcome to the front wiper club Dr. Mike. We are happy to have you

Dr Mike is fucking legit, smart as hell and HILARIOUS

This is one of the funniest episodes ever 😂😂😂

3 min in, and you know it's gonna be a good one

Omg i say this alot but best podcast ever i woke my wife up twice laughing like a girl 😂 thank you so much guys ❤🙏🙏🙏

Mike is so high he keeps grabbing his head with both hands to make sure his brain doesn’t fall out while talking a million miles an hour about the nuances of protein intake for 300lb bodybuilders and harry potter

Mike might be the most quick witted person I have ever listened to. Such a funny guy as well as intelligent

12 seconds in i already know this is goimg to be amazing

Thanks for the Yellowstone references/recommendations through the episodes...you've got me into that great series!

The form debate reminded me of the episode with Guy and Fouad vs Justin and Iain about the optimal training argument lol. I think there's too many variables to consider in the real world amongst real life people.

I’ve got to say, this is the FUCKING BEST RBB podcast I’ve ever listened to. Firstly I wholeheartedly agree with Mike, I fully see what Fouad’s argument is about overall load with a mild sacrifice in ROM being of benefit, but if the the active range isn’t as great as it possibly can be, mechanical tension isn’t going to be at it’s peak regardless of load. Regarding Ronnie and other top level pro’s with suboptimal form, to play devils advocate Mike claims that his quads would’ve been bigger with Full ROM and less weight, but the reality is these top level guys are genetic freaks that respond to stimulus better than 99.9% of others regardless, partly due to genetic capability and then the type of compounds they respond to individually too. My point is, The research would definitely support top level pro’s responding better to what’s deemed as optimal by science, but we’ll absolutely never indefinitely know whether Ronnie, Dorian and so on would have been better. It’s just as likely they’d have stepped on stage looking exactly the same and still dominated. Whether or not Ronnie would have a better quality of life post retirement is a completely different story though, no question about that.

Fouad really doing best for the subscribers

I got so hyped when I saw this thumbnail 😂 this is gonna be nuts

Happy Christmas fouad Ian Mike Mike and all other guys on bro chat best podcast out there I listen to them all I even get my girlfriend to listen 😅 we're getting married on 29th so we'll be a married couple next time we listen😅. Just wanna thank u fouad u don't realise how much these podcast means to people

Come on... Guys don't put Ian in an awkward position trying to put down Coach Greg. Mike - grow up.

This is such a great, respectful, educational conversation that can open up people's perspectives on training

Been waiting for this my entire life. Dr. Mike is my dad.

Great talk! It's about damn time that Dr. Mike is getting the exposure he has been lately.

Fouad was so pressed about the training because you were arguing against how he used to train lol