Arheocast ep#10 - Što znamo o dolasku Slavena i Hrvata iz povijesnih izvora? 

Bijeli Hrvati dolaze sa podrucja danasnje zapadne Ukrajine, oblast Lavov! Galicja!

Zalosno je sto ne znamo svoju povijest, doseljavanja nikad nije ni bilo.

Goti su bili naši Slaveni!I mi smo svi Indijanci ovih područja svi smo Iliri i nismo se doselili!

Isto tako ugostite Domagoja Nikolica!

Nije istina da nismo otkrili nove izvore ovaj čovjek stvarno nema pojma !

Ustvari molim te ugosti Dominika Bulata Vrucinica da vam objasni sve u dlaku!

I onda je svizac zamotao cokoladu...😂😂😂

Iliri smo svi mi ovdje nema doseljavanja i nema drugih naroda!

Nobody is as blind as the one who doesn't want to see. Napoleon: History is a set of lies - agreed upon. Ako svi mi slovenskog porekla na Balkanu imamo skoro isti DNK, zasto se uopste prica o njihovom poreklu, tim pre sto je svima dominantna haplogrupa I2a, koja je 35.000 i vise godina stara. Po kojoj logici su se Sloveni doseljavali sa severa kad znamo da je Ledeno Doba trajalo do 11.700 godina pre Hrista, a deglacifikacija je trajala 5.000 godina. Na Balkanu nikad nije bilo Ledenog Doba i logicno je da su tu ljudi uvek ziveli u kontinuitetu.

Josif Dobrovski U PRASTARA VREMENA SVI SLAVENI SU SE NAZIVALI SRBIMA

Koji Ciril i Metod o moj Boze ,morate hitno ugostiti ljude koje sam spomenuo ranije!

Sjajna ideja. Jako lijepo! Pozdrav

Manjkavost izvora? Pričate lažnu povijest.

Odlično - sve pohvale!

Znaci od dolaska nista nema od toga genetika kaze drikčije starosjedioci

Pusti Hrvatski ranosrednjovjekovni vladari nose Gotska imena koja završavaju na "-mir" i toliko gotskih riječi u našem slavenskom riječniku itd. ljudi vi ništa ne znate o sebi a kamoli o drugima. Profesija pff

Stilsko❤ je stari glavni grad Bile ( Velike) Horvatske u Zapadnoj Ukrajini. Ljudi iz Zapadne Ukrajine su još uvijek svjesni svog horvatskog podrijetla.

Naselje Stilsko 🇺🇦🇭🇷 Bili Horvati ❤ Bijela Hrvatska ❤ 626. - 2026.

Cuj Slavena i Hrvata?! Pa zar Hrvati to kao nisu Slaveni?!

Pokojni Tibor je dosta pomogao i objasnio, iako kod potpuno pogresnog voditelja. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-vh5FXXHNWa4.html

kvalitetno potrosenih pola sata, hvala. jako me zanima sto je receno i zasto je izrezan odgovor gosta na 29:22. posljedica "sukoba" gosta sa voditeljem je jasno ocita u ostatku razgovora

svaka čast što radite video sadržaj

Pričaš bajke. Valda se sječaš šta je Netanijahu rekao Vučiću u Jerusalimu? Pitajte Židove da vam daju knjige koje su sakrili iz Aleksandrijske biblioteke.

Dolazak a ha je je malo sutra

Problem su puno stariji toponimi slavenskog imena! Šta s njima?

A tko je prije bio na ovim područjima? Ovce i koze pasli travu a mi došli u dronjcima i usput pričamo jedan od najtežih jezika na svijetu.

Veltman MALO-RUSI, SLAVENI, ZAPOROŠKI I DONSKI KOZACI SU SRBI

Bravo!

Slavena i hrvata ? Pa jel mi nismo slaveni .

Franacki istoričar Ajnhard 817g. SORABOS QUAE NATIO MAGNAM DALMATIAE PARTEM OBTINERE DICITUR= NAROD SRBA KOJI DRŽI VELIKI DIO DALMACIJE

Какви хрвати у Далмацији !!!!! шта је бизант 🤣🤣🤣

Ovaj covjek predaje na fakultetu! Moj Boze, pomozi nam s ovakvim profesorima!!

Herodot SKITI, VENDI, TRIBALI I ILIRI SU TRAČANI

Доказателство обективности Прокопия обширност его трудови, содержащие тысячи и тысячи сведения, которие невозможно быт вымишлени. Он следовник Салустия и Тацита которие максимално стремилис к обективности и правдиводсти. Прокопий особено не нравится националистами кои представления ненаучние и необективние. Он омразен булгарских националистов потому что полности доказивает вымишленост и несуществувани булгар. Он подробно описивает те которие утверждаются как прабулгар, ни разу не употребляе это имя и очевидно не знает об нем.

Svaka čast ... ljudina si !!

De Administrando Imperio je toalet papir, i samo kao takav se može upotrijebiti.

Može biti da se NETKO zaljubio u jednu od sestara li se NEKA zaljubila u jednog od braće? Fali dokumentacija iz vremena Dioklecijana

i hodža hoće slagat,,,JAHVE NIJE BOG,,,kad smo kod boga,,,Hereza ko poklon,,,rvata pope rvata,,,obaci te ono novo novo normalno,,,svoju Herezu da čuvaš,,,

Ništa vi neznate

Које су ово глупости?

Одгледах све у нади да ћу сазнати гдје се налази гроб неког Хрватског краља. Али ништа, јбга. 😢

Profesore procitajte "Kraljevstvo slovena"Marva Orbinia i stvari ce vam biti jasnije.

Zanimljiva tema, lijepo vodjeni razgovor odlican sadrzaj. Bravo

Ne kužim pa Hrvati jesu Slaveni ili Iliri ako bas hoćete !

lazov,,magare sa dišplomom,daj mu jednu od mene,,mora cucnut,

Pavel Jozef Šafarik SRBI SU NAJBROJNIJI NAROD OD KOGA SU POTEKLI SVI OSTALI SLAVENI

Prvo porfirigenitov spus ORIGINAL NE POSTOJI!!!!Zasto to ovaj majstir idna ne kaze.Drugo,javnist zna da je ta skripta 3x dopisuvana zadnji put u 17 veku .E na taj falsifikovan spis se pozivaju "skolovani istoricari".Pametnome dosta..Car Justinijan je imao 600.000 profesionalnih vojnika,kako su mogli ti slaveni da tako dodju na Helmu????

Laonik Halkokondil 1453: SERBLOS TRYBALLOS AUTEM GENTEM ESSE TOTIUS ORBIS ANTIQUISSIMAM ET MAХIMAM COMPERTUM HABEO SRBI TRIBALI NAROD NAJSTARIJI I NAJVEĆI OD SVIH NARODA TO POUZDANO ZNAM

Svi smo od domaceg autohtonog stanovnistva porijeklom,sa primjesama naroda koji su tuda prolazili,naprimjer Turaka(srbi)

Hrvati su iz Irana,dokaz narodna imena mjeseca u godini!

Hvala Bogu pa nitko ne prati ovaj kanal! Ovoliku kolicinu gluposti nisam cuo vec dugo

I ovaj lupa gluposti , kakva doseljenja?? tu si oduvjek.

Slovo zvi znamo sta znaci. Sloviti=govoriti Znaci Sloveni su oni koji znaju da govore, za razliku od Nemaca koji su nemi. Kad su Sloveni postali Slaveni? Ako su Sloveni dosli na Balkan u 7-on veku, kako su Rimljani od nas primili u latinski jezik 6.000 reci, a jezik je formiran i standardizovan vekovima pre pocetka Rimske Imperije? Da ne pominjem da su u Abaniji i Grckoj svi toponimi i hidronimi bili slovenskog porekla, dok ih nisu promenili u 20. veku. Pogledajte stare mape.

"Pogani" su Arijani, Krstjani Bosanci!

Naj logicnije rijesenje je da Hrvati nisu ni dosli nego su tu I bili.

Prije svega mi smo došli u Ilirsku zemlju, zarobili Ilirski narod usput dok smo čistili Bizantsko carstvo od okupatora, kad je rat završio, oslobodili smo Ilirski narod, pomiješali se snjima, prihvatili njihove običaje , kulturu, graditeljstvo, kompletno sve.

Из наслова се може закључити, да Хрвати нису Словени, ако су дошли са данашњег подручја Пољске и Словачке..! Ко су онда..? Ми Срби знамо, јер имамо Винчанску културу и Винчанско писмо..!

Stanislasv Bohusz Poljski kardinal SRBI OSNOVAŠE SVOJE TREĆE CARSTVO I NAZVAŠE GA POLJSKA

Da ne govorimo o jeziku i DNA sa svim kostima koji su pronađeni .

Cetvrta skola nastali od srba

Strabon U ZAPADNOJ AZIJI SU ŽIVJELI SRBI I BRÐANI, SRBI SU IMALI U MALOJ AZIJI VELIKO CARSTVO ČIJI SE CAR ZVAO OBLAK, TROJANCI SU BILI SRBI

Hehe što ne spomene "Franacke Anale sa početka 800.ih gde ne spominju nikakve Hrvate već samo Srbe na teritoriji današnje Hrvatske 😆

Dobrovski LUŽIČKI SRBI I SRBI SA BALKANA SU ISTI NAROD, SRB NIJE NIŠTA DRUGO NEGO SARMAT SKRAĆENO I PREOKRENUTO

Sjajna emisija. Kad ćete napisati nesto o dolasku Neandertalaca i Hrvata na ove prostore ili Kromanjonaca i Srba. Bravo. Samo tako nastavite. Tako se piše Historija. 😂😂😂

Firstly, there are no Eastern Roman historians attributing the ease of Slavic settlement to Justinian's plague - which was spread all over Europe (despite its popular name and the worst scenario occurring in densely populated Constantinople) and almost certainly affected Slavs. Further on, based on all archaeological findings of both the Antes and the Sclavenes, we know for a fact that equipment was standardized in the sense that every excavated grave of a Slavic warrior features chainmail and sword (fashioned in East Roman style), an ax, round wooden shield, and a long spear. Some Slavic warriors were wearing belts with buckles adorned with Avar motifs, but they were most likely spoils of war or items of trade. The only group of Slavs that have fought without armor was warbands of young warriors who've fought entirely naked (barring the red paint on their body, hair, and face) and in melee (the ones that were described as being red-haired by Procopius), and some groups of Pannonian Wends who were tributaries of the Pannonian Avars, and relying on ambushes was a part of defensive strategies, and only against hosts that were too numerous and too well-armed, like the Avar army of 60K that assailed Sclavene territories after Daurentius slew Bayan's envoys and refused to pay tribute to him. Aside from that, both the Antes and the Sclavenes have utilized large and small breeds of horses for warfare, and matter of fact, an entire host of Antean and Sclavene horsemen was dispatched to evacuate Belisarius from Italy, which proves the aforementioned. Secondly, the Avars have only managed to subjugate the more passive parts of the Dudlebes, as well as parts of the Wends - certainly not the Antes and the Sclavenes, who were noted to have lived only under the reign of their own kings like Muzok and Mezamir (Antes) and chieftains like Radagast and Daurentius, of whom the latter was described as being the supreme chief of all Sclavenes. Procopius' early assessment of Slavic social structure was just that - an early assessment based off of early sightings of Slavic warbands that were initially considered to have been "small tribes governed by "military democracy". As interaction with Slavs intensified, he realized that the Slavs did exhibit an organized social structure, albeit admittedly, the Antes were the most centralized body of the Early Slavs, with a hereditary monarchy where one king reigned over all of the Antes, while among the Sclavenes, you've had one known supreme chieftain like the aforementioned Daurentius to whom other chieftains were subordinate, there was also a mention of Sclavene kings, like Perbundos, who led a coalition of Sclavene tribes deep into Greece. Likewise, the Avars were first invited to make a move against the Slavs by the Roman emperor Tiberius, and later on, Emperor Heraclius would invite Serbs and Croats from the distant Slavic northwest to liberate the northern provinces of the Avars and have them settle all those provinces as his vassals which he'd ennoble, which refutes any theory of the Sclavenes and Antes arriving to Southeastern Europe off of the back of the Avars. After all, the earliest Slavic raids deep into the Roman territory were accompanied by the enslavement of an estimated quarter of a million Romans in every province struck by the Slavs and the sacking and besieging of Roman cities, which were recorded as early as the first part of the 6th century - decades before the Avars were contacted by Emperor Tiberius, and before they reached the most distant part of the basin of the Danube. On top of that, the invading Sclavenes have also slain Asbadus/Asbados - the famed Roman/Gepid general, and have also annihilated his elite army, a feat which would've been impossible if the Slavs "only fought from afar", or worse, if they've "made no use of pitched organized warfare". The usage of poison arrows and guerrilla warfare was deployed only in defensive wars against a martially superior enemy - like against the combined Roman-Avar army during Maurice's campaign which was launched deep into Sclavene territories north of the Danube. In the work of Menander Protector, we find the following excerpt: "This movement of Avars against the Slavs did not only result from Emperor's envoys and the wish of Bayan to return the courtesy unto Romans for all the gestures of friendship and help that he had received from the Emperor but also because he held great hate for them (the Slavs) out of personal sentiment as well. The Avar leader has, therefore, sent envoys to Daurentius (Δαυρίτας) himself, and to his chieftains, calling on for their submission and enlistment among tribute-payers. Dauritas and the leaders alongside him replied: "Who is, then, the man who basks in sunlight that threatens to conquer our strength? We are used to ruling over others, not to being ruled over - of that, we are certain for as long as wars are waged and swords are forged". Since the Slavs acted so haughtily, the Avars were no different in boasting. Then the scolds and insults resulted from that, being that the barbarians are of a narrow and proud mind, and the fight broke out. The Slavs, unable to control their anger, killed the envoys, as Bayan found out from another source. Because of that Bayan has long since raised accusations against the Slavs, fueling a secret hatred against them, mad for they refused him, and angry that from them he received an unforgivable insult, in the same time he thought he would do a favor to Caesar and likewise *find a rich land to plunder, for far too long has the land of Romans been plundered by Slavs, and theirs (Slavic) - never by any of other peoples*." Thirdly, the Early Slavs seized and inhabited a massive territory that spanned from the east of Germany to the Baltic and the very distant fringes of Eastern Europe. Matter of fact, the bulk of the Sclavenes have lived on the northern shores of the Danube and were bribed by Roman authorities into maintaining that status quo, at least temporarily. Also, Slavs weren't "monotheistic", they were henotheistic. Even though Perun was their chief god, they also recognized the existence of other gods as well, hence why the Sclavenes and the Antes worshipped Perun and Veles - which also reflected their lifestyles, which were very warlike and militarized and subsided on animal husbandry, fishing, hunting, gathering and the practice of a form of agriculture that required the burning of the soil, so they weren't nomadic, but certainly not entirely sedentary either. It's also important to note that Procopius also states that the Sclavenes and the Antes shared the same customs, beliefs, and institutions. The same goes for the Wends, which is also supported by the homogeneity of early Slavic aDNA, YDNA, and language, although material culture was far more varied (depending on which culture they defeated and assimilated). Fourthly, the role of the Avars in all of this is overemphasized, and for the following reasons: a) As mentioned before, they were invited by the Romans to defeat and subdue unruly peoples on the Danube, like the Antes (who were Roman allies in the past as well), and during the next century or so will be the foremost "allies" of the Romans against the Slavs, up until Heraclius invites the Serbs and Croats (Sclavene tribes) to defeat and annihilate them south of the Danube. b) While it's true that the Avar hosts were initially the largest, they were in time overshadowed by the Sclavene hosts, which have, after realizing that the Roman authority on the Danube is no more, begun launching massive invasions that were also preludes to the permanent settling of the lands they've seized and initiated the assimilation of the peoples they've defeated and colonized. c) Western historians tend to make the mistake of not distinguishing the Slavs, even though primary sources from that era have noted that the Early Slavs were divided into three groups: the Wends, the Sclavenes, and the Antes, which brings us to the point of the "100 000 Slavs" that were part of the Avar host - most of them were Pannonian Wend tributaries of the Avars, while the rest were Sclavene allies who, thanks to their arrangement with the Avars, were exempt from abiding by Avar-Roman peace treaties, and would continue raiding and marauding as they pleased, which brought great displeasure to Bayan senior and junior, and the Roman emperors as well. d) Slavs would've invaded and permanently settled the lands south of the Danube one way or the other, the involvement of the Avars has only somewhat hastened of process, and by subsequently making sure that the Sclavene tribes would form the overwhelming bulk of those who'd settle and seize the territories in question by waging exhaustive wars with the Antes. At most, the Avars were a strictly Pannonian phenomenon and were never masters of the "Balkans", which is also supported by archaeology and modern genetic studies, and given that you've made a mention of primary Roman/Greek sources, you should also know that there's not a single one of them that claims that the Slavs were migrating with the Avars, but that they were invading Southeastern Europe at the same time. You could potentially make that point for the aforementioned Pannonian Wends, but not for the bulk of the invading Slavs - who were Sclavenes and Antes. e) Sclavenes have besieged Thessalonica five times (in 586 or 597, 604, 615, 617, and 676), and only in two of those sieges were the Slavs assisted by the Avars. Furthermore, the Croats are Slavs too, "professor".

Da li još neko veruje u dolazak slovena na balkan😂😂😂 Ovog razumem kao i one iz SANU a ipak oni prepovedaju zvaničnu istoriju i za to dobijaju novac! Šta reći za čoveka kome je Porforogenit deo svetog trojstva, čiji su spisi dokazano krivotvoreni.

😂😂😂😂😂

Sada vas ima ni 4 miliona, a nikakav pomor niste doživjeli, a pričato o sebi kao velikom narodu. U ono doba vas je bilo zanemarljivo malo, tako da se ne može ni govoriti o narodu, više o nekom plemenu nekog većeg naroda.

Kad nemate dobar temelj,imate neistinitu istoriju.U vreme robovladavine nisu mogli da se kreçu sllobodno oni sto su billi robovi.Slaveni ili bolje reçeno sklaveni(na albanskom skllav jeni znaç vi ste robovi).su dosli u Balkan kao robovi prodani iz Rusa.Citajte francuski rijeçnik za serv,rusé,.

Pojma ti nemaš nije bilo doseljavanja u 7 vjeku, mi Sloveni Srbi smo starosjedioci na Balkanu, ovaj prostor geografska širina bogom je dana za život. Baski na sjeverozapadu Španija datiraju od oko 30 hiljada godina, a i naš slovenski narod je starosjedioci Balkana. Porfrogeneta piše o Slovenima vatikanskom stilom i nema veza sa istorijom Srba. Pročitajte knjigu od Antonija Farčiča Istorija pomorskih Srba, sve će vam biti jasno. Nema nikakvog Splitskog sabora 928 Godin na kome su prisutni Tomislav i Mihajlo Višević, niti je bio tu rimski biskup

Pravi SALATAN , puno prica a nista nije reka . Nima LOGIKE

Niko vas nije bolje objasnio od Miodraga Bulatovica.Ko je nekada citao zna o kakvom piscu je rijec.

"dolazak" je povratak ekspedicije iz Armenije, Peovjeri u Armeniji. Mik!

KOJA BUDALASTINA,,,,

HOCE LI U EMISIJU DA POZOVETE NEKOGA KO NECE OVOLIKO GLUPOSTI DA KAZE,,,

HAHAHA SRBI I HRVATI SU NA BALKANU OD KAKO SE POVRŠINSKI DEO PLANETE OHLADIO.KSO ŠTO SU HRAST JASEN BAGREM I VRBA AUTOHTONI TAKO SU SRBI HRVATI AUTOHTONI NA BALKANU .AKO JE OVO ISTORIČAR ONDA SMO SVI PALI SA MARSA.HAHAHA😊😅😂

Lazna teorija sa falsifikatima za izvore! Zivjela nada Klaic!

A Vincanska civilizacija, sto od toga potvrdjuje genetika, obzirom na gentsku slicnost, a Vlasi i/ili Cincari koliko ih je genetski medju Hrvatima.

Za sve ljubitelje historije, uradite DNK Y hromozom test ;) hrvati su narod sa najmanje Y hromozome testova uEvropi....za kaj se plasite, jedan dio jesu cakavci Hrvati, jedan Srbi, jedan Slovinci, sto sad

OVAJ GOST KAO DA JE ISPOD KAMENOG STEČKA SPAVAO STOLJEČIMA A IZVUKLI SU GA NA SVJETLO DANA SAMO DA GOSTUJE U EMISIJI I DA NAMA SVIMA LiJEPO OBJASNI KAKO JE SVE BILO I KAKO SE SVE IZDOGADJALO ! 🏛🌤

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