TUN/sweetener was a fun and cute time that made light of it all.. Well It's really not cute anymore.. esp the lyrics in yes and >:( so no :( This is the best video on this topic BTW. 👏
What do you mean fooled? It’s literally just her response. And from there you either continue rocking with her or you don’t depending on your morals etc.
💸💸💸 and public exposure. Aside from her being attractive, I'm quite sure the possibilities of financial gain, comfort, and boosting their own public profile adds to the temptation.
Maybe she's also fun to be around, imagine being stuck with a kid in this economy 😵💫 I do not get why ppl are so mad about breaks up meanwhile genocide its commited if front of everyone. Well I try to see the bright side in every situation, in a few years we'll be all dead, so it's all good. @@michaelolegario6399
@@michaelolegario6399then Ethan is a dbag for chasing money instead of his own wife and baby. They'll probably breakup after Ariana's upcoming era ends and she'll find another man for her next era.
I am also a Ariana fan since the victorious days but I’m also able to acknowledge her problematic behavior. Sorry but there’s no way there wasn’t some overlap involved even if he and lily were supposedly separated for 2 months. Emotionally cheating is a real thing and in my opinion worse than physical cheating. Lilly and her son are the only victims here and Ariana fans are disgusting for going through hell and back to defend her behavior. I know many of them are young and don’t know the impact of being cheated on or the pain of going through a divorce when children are involved on both the parents and child but it’s still a terrible action to defend and I can’t believe they’re taking the “misogyny” angle. I will say, Ariana has a hell of a pr team
Well said!! I believe most of the fans defending her must be super young & don’t fully understand the severity of the situation. Hopefully one day she gets her slice of humble pie though, since it seems like this scandal didn’t completely derail her career yet.
I’m an Ariana fan too and I agree with you girl. These teen fans of hers are defending her behavior and acting like she can do no wrong. I’ll wait until they become adults and the same thing happens to them. They won’t like it. 😂😅 Overall, I wish people can separate the art from the artist. You can like the art, and you don’t have to respect their bad choices at the same time. My heart goes out to Lilly Jay and her baby boy. 😢❤
@@JoyOgbatue that’s what I’ve been saying I can’t wait until these snotty girls get married and their husband cheats on them. imagine if the side chick says “yes, and”?😂
How do you know there was overlap? Did Ariana and Ethan start liking each other before either of them seperated from their spouses. Yes emotional cheating is a thing, but is that what they did? How do you know? You can't guess, you can't assume, you can't just say it was likely. Because that kind of attitude is the same one that had people harrassing Ariana on social media, calling her a slut and a whore, and who knows what else. You can't defend people doing that, or say Ariana wasn't a victim at least in that way. It is just as disgusting as people disregarding any of Lilly's feelings, regardless of how the situation went down, to defend Ariana. Some people act like Lily shouldn't still be hurt that Ethan moved on even if they had been over before he and Ariana got together. People also act like Ariana stole her man, even though she was single and so was Ethan. Both attitudes are wrong. Bottom line, the rumors about cheating have already been debunked, and yet there are still things we don't know. Can Ariana be mad that people have opinions on her on private life? No, because she's a public figure and she chose this life, and that scruntiny comes with it. But at the end of the day, Ariana is allowed to be upset that so many people want to go as far as to make long videos discussing her relationships, just to try and prove she did something when they don't even have the full story. People won't mind their own business, realistically. But when it comes to who Ariana has in her bed, they should. That the likely won't is besides the point, because it doesn't make prying into her life, actually ok to do.
Yeah the timing doesn’t matter at all. He obviously didn’t randomly leave his high school sweetheart right after having a kid without any external factor. And what happened to her forcing dalton bc down our throats and releasing a whole album about how into him she is
Also, her first public ex boyfriend Jai Brooks made a statement in 2013 accusing her of cheating on him with Nathan Sykes (whom she dated right after Jai) & he was made out to look crazy & manipulative by herself & her fans!
Also Jeanette made that tweet mocking Ariana in her short film with a character “Gloriana” who cheats on her boyfriend multiple times. Lol. She wouldn’t have said that if it wasn’t tru
I also love Ari's music but i'm not a blind fan. One does not meet someone and then suddenly decide to divorce their spouses *just in case* they are able to get in a relationship with another person, there was absolutely emotional cheating, if not more, to the point where they both decided it was worth divorcing to pursue the relationship 🤷♀ Plus, when the news about how Ari was separated from Dalton months ago came out, a LOT of arianators where trying to debunk it *but now* that there's confirmation that Ari is divorcing AND dating Ethan and the timelines overlap each other, they now suddenly believe it lol
Exactly! It seems like Ethan & Ariana formed a close relationship working on set for the months they were co-stars. It doesn’t just happen overnight where they both decide to divorce & go official after that. Also, it’s crazy how Ariana met his wife & held their baby as well. That to me is a whole other level of disrespect.
Her fans are now trying to say that page six backtracked on their statements since they said “there’s no hard evidence that Ariana came between Lily and his wife.” However, Lilly spoke directly to page six and blasted Ariana and I’m more inclined to believe her over Ariana’s team who will always make her look good 🤷🏽♀️
@@EDeeDeeS but sources are saying that ethans ex wife never talked about this topic with any interviewers and it was a made up rumour started by page six in 2023 and now page six is denying everything and updated the topic by writing there is no evidence or proof that Ariana was involved in ethans and his ex wife matters.. The page is literally denying..
@@EDeeDeeSlilly also spoke to tmz and said she has no idea where the shit page six has said came from , the person who wrote the article on page six notoriously hated ariana , do ur research
Majority of celebrities are like this, hypocritical, a victim hood mindset, deflection, no accountability or genuine apology and disrespectful to they're fans.
There was also a rumor back in 2014 that said that Ariana said she hoped her fans f*cking die (idk if it’s true or not) but if true that’s just awful tbh 🤧🤧🤧🤧😭😭😭😭
@@shaneilellis9832 So you were just agreeing with me that it was awful if she actually said she hopes her fans f*cking die then (right or not? Just checking)
People just have to endure her sh*t because it's Ariana Grande. Because she's powerful protected and famous. I'm a huge fan of her music. I stopped caring about her public image when she broke up Big Sean and Naya Rivera. I wouldn't waste time bashing her because there are other women in Hollywood who've done the same thing and they are still treated with respect. Ariana is gorgeous and talented but this is disgusting. The other Arianators should relax because Ariana doesn't know them personally and it's stupid to go off on people who disagree with Ariana's behavior.
It's good to be your own best friend and have a courage to forgive yourself, but you can't do shit after shit and pretend you're spreading eternal sunshine 💀 I hope for a good music, but I'm done with "i give zero fucks" theme, give me something new
Great breakdown. I was completely turned off of her after Donutgate but a bop is a bop and I had hoped she had grown up. Guess not, and her behavior seems really rooted in entitlement. I'll avoid her new album as much as it will pain me.
I grew up watching her career grow over the decade as a huge fan & I really hoped she had grown up too. 😭 But as I got older I learned to stop idolizing people & began realizing how shitty the majority of popular celebrities really are.
@@James-re3lz oh trust me I know that! Just from the perspective of my young teenage years as a former fangirl of many celebrities, I just realized how toxic parasocial relationships & celebrity culture really is. We all outgrow it someday!
Her profiting from black culture and then ditch it after she gain fame fid not bother you? A bop is a bop, her latest albums were mediocre at best and the lyricism was only solely based is SX.
@@khadyadjisall5708 yes, can we talk about how her "accent" has changed? She's using her whiteness now because it's convenient but a few years ago was she was quite literally singing a different tune.
now they’re trying to come out with “there was no proof” that ari and ethan had an affair and people are like everyone owes ariana an apology like give me a break. if i didn’t know about her history and this was a one time occurrence then yes i could give her the benefit of the doubt but ariana and her fans are not about to insult my intelligence. i’m a fan but i’m not a delusional ass kisser. her and ethan were wrong. period.
LMAO I saw that. How delulu do you have to be. Explain how she hangs out with them HOLDS their child and suddenly she's dating that man. The wife said, SHES NOT A GIRLS GIRL. EXPLAIN LOL
heavy on the “not about to insult my intelligence” bc they’re fr trying to convince us that there was absolutely no overlap and that ari is the victim here… like give me a break
That's not OK, being with someone who just gad a baby, that speaks bad for both of them, and it does matter, you need to consider everything before you get involved in a relationship
I saw someone on twitter say she’s from Boca Raton and this behavior makes so much sense if she really is from Boca cause nothing good comes out of there
and this is the person who people sided with over Victoria Justice? OK, it's a little much to blame a person and his/her fans over the career of another person though it didn't help. Plus, Ariana has a history of not being a nice person and wasn't she accused of hating her fans or was that a rumor?
Just a rumor but I definitely question her now more than I did before she’s so talented and beautiful I hate that she’s just throwing it all away like this 😭😭😭😭
I was a big fan of her music (especially from 2016-2020 era) but the new tracks don’t hit the same as “Into You” “One Last Time” “Side To Side” “God Is A Woman” I feel like she peaked with “Positions” (I don’t really know much of the other songs from off of the album but “Positions” is still a favorite of mine I didn’t care much for “yes, and?” but I like “we can’t be friends”)
The craziest part is that she looks very cute and innocent even speaks in a kind way to demonstrate having a "kind heart" her looks and the ways she acts are not matching with her malicious intentions 🙈 there's a chance she's been through some kind of trauma and became a sociopath or she's a narcissist maybe society/big fame created it in her or encouraged this behavior in her partly she's still in the wrong anyways!
@@abbied she doesnt see herself as dan's victm and she never supported his victims that came out like jennette, and her messy dating started ay before the manchester, actually the manchester and mac situation made her uncancellable due to people's compassion towards her. In nick she actually had a special treatment instead of abuse, she was fully able to pursue music and be absent on set while jennette had to be there always, she is quite entitled which the donut gate showed
It crazy people are praising her new song. Wow. 🫤I’m sorry for the woman who got cheated by this home wrecker. She such a hypocrite when it comes being a feminist.
People who date cheaters are literally watching someone burn in flames and go join them because somehow they believe they're fireproof. In this case being both of them, I wonder what a toxic, insecurity based relationship that might be
Maybe Ethan’s marriage was in a decline, we don’t know how it was, but if he really left his wife for the sake of getting with Ariana Grande… good luck brother, with her history her relationships don’t last long
i just cant understand WHY she does this??? Like she could 100% find someone she actually loves, settle down with them etc, but to do this for over TEN YEARS and still not be satisfied?? Its giving immature
I don't agree that people will forget about this and move on in a few months. In the wider scope of the internet, yes, but within the Ariana Grande sphere, no. This has been going on wayy too long (the scandal) for an average scandal of her's I'd have to say. 💀 We've got YEARS worth of proof too. That's usually a sign
True! I think this permanently stained her brand, just like how people still talk about Elizabeth Taylor’s love life and some calling Ariana the new Elizabeth. 😂 but I do feel like this won’t stop people from supporting her and her music so she won’t fully become cancelled.
@@StrawberryFeildsforNever dont be dense trying to be smart. Man was on camera more than Dora. You learn peoples morals very easily when theyre always yapping 😘 calm down keyboard warrior.
Yea she was very cold about him, but when he passed she acted like he was the love of her life. I have never lost an ex months after a breakup, I’m sure it’s traumatic, but she was messy after the breakup
She also seems to delete all the hate comments on her song "Yes, and?". Its weird to me that the comment section is filled with nothing but positive feedback in every way possible.
Y'all, I love her music. Loved her. But you can't look at me and say "wHat ABouT tHe gUys". It's not just relationships, its people. She affected Victoria Justice and Jeanette McCurdy, especially their careers. She did that whole donut shop thing. SCOOTER BRAUN, that's all I have to say there. The Victorious rumors. All of the relationships she broke up. Liz Gillies (married a p3do, man, I dont care what anyone says that dude is weird and creepy. Shes also defended Dan and Victorious. I dont buy it I'm sorry.) Defending Dan, The countless other scandals. Now I'm totally one of those people who kinda looks at the media and thinks we blow celebrities actions out of proportion. But I mean come on. She's been problematic, I'm sure she's a great friend to her friends, I'm sure she's not a like completely despicable person, she's a beautiful singer and beautiful girl, but I don't know.. Maybe a few apologies would be worth giving. Maybe actually acknowledging you've done a few things wrong instead of saying "Yes, and?" (Love the song) to your not so amazing actions. Its weird, I definitely think her and more celebrities should be held more accountable. Not cancelled. Held accountable.. maybe especially her. I'm prepared for people to disagree though.
How come no one is blaming the boys in it ? Ur boyfriend was committed to u dude not ariana. And nobody can steal ur boyfriend or husband unless they wanna get stolen away. 😅. There all are thinking ariana is the issue. But the true issue are the boyfriends here. They are the ones who have been unfaithful all this time .
I would give anything to go back to the time before Wicked. I swear to God I wouldve never imagined that she'd do something as awful as this. Her PR team dropped the ball. It was like she wanted to get caught. Did she really think nobody would say anything? I love Ari but its like fxcking WHY? I wish us fans had Swifties sort of influence on her bc they shook her enough that she was able to leave that racist sweaty idiot bf of hers b4 Travis. Several things can be true at once. She's messed up for being a married man's other woman. As well as being public about it. Also, enjoying someone's art does not automatically equate to condoning their actions. There are rational fans out there who dont deserve harassment and bullying by that virtue. This is def such a low point. It may end her and im sad abt it. 😢
The only good part of all of this is when this cheaters guys get fooled by her, like HIS husband, as i read he was 14years with his ex and Ariana cheated him, karma karma karma
She is gorgeous, very talented, she seems nice to be around... Of course men fall in love with her fast and hard. She doesn't steal anybody y'all: It takes two people to cheat/break a relationship/etc. I don't believe the "blaming everything on her" thing. Maybe she also falls quickly in love for these men and then unfortunately things usually go wrong. Just as it happens to common people, not only to celebrities.
As you’ve said it takes two people to cheat. Ariana is one of those people. I agree people are way more critical of her than with him (misogyny) but that doesn’t mean she should get off scot-free.
Let me explain something. She's. a grown woman. She flirts with men while they're in relationships. Then she dates them soon after their "break ups". You're right she doesn't steal them because they choose to leave. However, she targets them despite them having a relationship. That's a home wrecker. She's SICK she help that woman's CHILD then she went after her husband. That's why she's not a girls girl and a home wrecker. Yes, home wreckers exist outside of celebs, now tell me why we're not aloud to judge her just as much. She's not special like that. She's disgusting.
Just because someone likes you doesn’t mean you have to hook up with them. I mean Ariana has millions of fans, should she hook up with every one of them because they fell in love with her? And just as you said men fall in love with her fast, she can get any man, why would she go for married/taken men?
my thoughts are, y’all can see the big picture that you wanna see, but it’s funny how people assume a few things like, who made the first moves, and are just talking about all of those past relationships rn just bc this one it’s a scandal. Like if y’all cared about the past ones, “oh it’s been a decade”. Really? Y’all should have been talking about it years ago so don’t pretend to care about the other ones. And also if y’all can recognize all of that and see that it’s “problematic” and she’s putting herself in maybe big trouble and this time the guy can win a lot but she can lose, it just got worse. See the signs of the real problem here if you know what i mean but ofc u don’t. I don’t think someone will understand what signs i’m talking abt. Whoever does, congratulations. And ofc I’ll be listening to AG7.
I’m not even the biggest Ariana Fan but idk why people always have to blame the women like idc how many situations Ariana has been in I don’t think she’s the problem these men see a beautiful women-not to mention rich-and they don’t care about the women they got at home they’ll flirt and I don’t think you’ve seen Ariana’s personality she’s definitely “A Guy’s Gal” no doubt plus she’s talented if I was a guy and knew she was interested I would definitely be with her plus the publicity is a great bonus weather it’s bad or good. lol 😂
That’s the exact problem? Imma just say it! She keeps repeating the same cycle so obviously she’s the one to blame. The Men are as well seeing that they would leave their main thing for her. It’s just gross how she lowkey preys on men that already have a relationship? She’s not innocent
The problem is the pattern throughout 10 years. She’s also just as much of a loser as any of them. to date any guy who is willing to break up with their ex-girlfriend for her, especially when they have newborns. edit: also, we have to stop perpetuating this standard of “well the girls always innocent” no. this why they’re getting away with this shit and still think it’s OK to do. She clearly has actively been going after taking men, and she needs to be held accountable for it. She is just as icky as them.
Maybe homewreckers don’t deserve all the hate but they can at least not play the victim. She’s been a homewrecker for more than a decade, she had plenty of time to grow up and stop before she got her first major backlash, but instead cries in her vogue beauty video and releases this song. If you’re gonna get involved with a taken man, you don’t get to pretend be about “positive vibes” only. Her song has lyrics about protecting her energy but she didn’t care about protecting the ex wife’s energy. Ariana didn’t mind her own business when she got with a married man.
No one is solely blaming Ariana… the men are just as disgusting for being unfaithful since they are the ones who owe loyalty to their partners when Ariana doesn’t owe them anything. However, it’s a pattern in her relationship history that she comes out as the other woman & if she is aware they’re in relationships & willingly pursues them then she needs to be held accountable as well.
@@chrissis1944 totally agree! But in the instance of relationships, the one in a relationship is who owes loyalty to their partner. However, I believe Ariana willingly pursuing relationships with taken men is extremely problematic.
@@Keliforniamedia I’m happy more people are acknowledging this pattern in her relationships. For me, it’s a symptom of a deeper issue (or maybe she just doesn’t care 😂)
@@chrissis1944 it’s definitely a self esteem issue. She’s deeply insecure and has issues and that’s why she gets a thrill out of pursuing taken men. It makes her feel more powerful and secure
First off, the break up with your girlfriend im bored song is about self love. u showed a shot of the music video which shows her hugging her look alike. the music video explains what the song is about. she is telling herself, the look alike, to break up, and to love herself, be there for herself and work on herself, after all she’s been thru. she doesn’t need a relationship to get better. which is further explained at the end when she goes in to kiss her look alike, again showing the ‘self love’ background. Ariana explained this back after this song was released. the fun play on the ‘break up’ part is just for the song, it’s a song made to hit, and just because she sings about it doesn’t mean that’s her personality does it? if we’re going to use that logic, every artist should be held to their song titles. which sounds stupid. so move on from that. yes, and? debuted with 11.2 million filtered streams, she and Taylor Swift are the only female artists ever to debut over 10 million streams. it was largely taken well also because 1 day after, page six DEBUNKED the homewrecker allegations. This was because Lily told Ethan that she never said anything to page six and she didn’t know where these tabloids were getting these sources from. So it was confirmed that Lily never said she wasn’t a girls girl and she also never said she was blindsided or that her family were collateral damage. these ‘statements’ were made up by page six, a woman called Francesca Bacardi to be exact, who wrote these articles or edited them. she was caught liking hate comments about Ariana and taking part in body shaming Ariana on twitter - meaning she just doesn’t like Ariana, and of course, as she’s the editor of a big magazine with a scandal that the public knows nothing about, why wouldn’t she just make up lies about it and deal with the consequences later? Page six released another article the other day stating that no, Ariana was no a homewrecker and there was no evidence to prove that she was. but of course, people were still skeptical because they just want to find reasons to hate on Ariana. page six is a celebrity culture magazine website which cannot be paid off by celebrities or actors. but it’s not just page six who have confirmed the no homewrecking. tmz, the first magazine to report on the divorces and new relationship have been reporting on it for months, and since then exposed page six in a way when people found out through tmz that lily had never said those things and page six had simply made it up. people are like sheep and will eat up anything and everything they hear on the internet, worsened with tiktok. the amount of misinformation within this case is just ridiculous. partly because there’s no proper timeline. the ‘rumoured’ and allegations all would suggest there was cheating, but the facts we know about actually point to just two divorced people, getting together. No affair. No cheating. No homewrecking.
Damn, you wasted so much time and energy for a comment about a person who doesn’t even know you and doesn’t even seem to care. It’s not that serious. Try to find fun and life within yourself, geez
@@panika4108 she does know me I’ve met her various times lmao. I’m defending someone bc I know they didn’t do anything. I’m allowed to share my facts and opinions and if u don’t want to listen then move on. it’s my time, I can choose how I spend it. thanks
She does not KNOW you. Stop being delusional, doesn't matter how many concerts and meet and greets you have gone to. You're a stalker fan (stan) of an artist, not her friend; you don't know that woman. Point-blank period. Just stating my facts.
For the mv……isnt it more of the director’s decision instead of her? Do you aware of that you have to create a song first then to film a video about it right?💀
lmao, u claim urself to be a fan, but u dont even know what song break up with ur gf, I am bored is about, and u just repeat the same bullshit, as everyone else 😂
also, page six confirmed, that SHE NEVER SAID IT and there is no evidence, that ethan cheated on his wife, in fact, they split way before he got with ariana
what about when Dalton Gomez’s ex-girlfriend made a TikTok talking about how Ariana Grande was the “girl she shouldn’t worry about” before they got together
@@briannaaudain928A Narcissist: Personality qualities include thinking very highly of oneself, needing admiration, believing others are inferior, and lacking empathy for others.
@@barbzthebuilder it isn't hate against another woman to point out a flaw or something that is morally wrong. She took someone's husband and is celebrating that. You don't need eyes to see that shit is wrong.
@@barbzthebuilder either way call me what you want but it isn't normal behavior ...and if she really didn't do anything wrong then at the end of the day only she truly knows the truth and we are all imperfect so i won't act like I'm not problematic in my own ways. But we shouldn't be so blind to celebrity flaws just because they are talented. We all are there to help each other for better or worse. But I understand u must be a Stan or something so I won't be wasting my breath on this.
