Ark: How To Build A Circle Base EASY METHOD

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This video is a detailed tutorial on how to build a circle base.
📢 Shout out - Full credit goes to The Pilgrimz Project for developing this circle method!
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Build Information
💪🏻 Difficulty Lvl - ★★☆☆☆
🛠 06 x Wooden Triangle Foundations, 24 x Wooden Fence Foundations, 08 x Wooden Ceilings, 72 x Wooden Pillars, 61 x Stone Ceilings, 24 x Thatch Ceilings, 24 x Stone Fence Foundations, 48 x Stone Walls
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🎮🕹 Controls
Flip Wall
XBOX (Y Button)
PS4 (Triangle Button)
PC (E Key)
Snap Point Cycle
XBOX (RB)
PS4 (R1)
PC (Q or Z Key)
Painting
PC - Hold alt-fire (default: Right Mousebutton) and use the number keys (1-6) to select which colour regions you wish to paint
Xbox - LT+ Up, Down, Left or Right on DPad (for region 1-4) and Xbox: LT+LB+ X or Y (for region 5 and 6)
PS4 - L2 + Up, Down, Left or Right on DPad (for region 1-4) and L2 + L1+ Square or X (for region 5 and 6)
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☆ TRACK 1- Enyo & Mario Ayuda feat. Gaby Henshaw - Freedom (LarsM Remix) [Concordia Recordings]
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☆TRACK 2 - Song: Bjorn - Tides [Concordia Recordings]
• Bjorn - Tides | Chill ...
☆ OUTRO - Echo3zDown - Like Nothing Felt Before - www.youtube.com/watch?v=kohX7... • Echo3zDown / echo3zdown
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@ghengisdong6714 4 года назад

Depending on how you lay out the rest of your base, you could easily put a hatch frame in the middle and keep your generators down there. Just pop open the hatch when you need to refill it.

@TronG33k 3 года назад

Big 🧠

@shanemonica9703 5 лет назад

Finally a circle that actually works without relying on eyeballing. Thanks Aaron!

@OddNoble 5 лет назад

you know, those 291 thumbs down actually came from a community of squares O.o

@AaronLongstaff 5 лет назад

Haha, probably that's so funny!

@spideyvivian722 5 лет назад

so funny lol

@vaporouselm9932 5 лет назад

Lol when I read this I almost disliked by accident

@orionmoreno7250 5 лет назад

You mean Minecraft?

@OddNoble 5 лет назад

@@orionmoreno7250 lol

@wintertriggersme6304 5 лет назад

UGH I’ve been searching for something like this for AGES! Thanks for showing us! The biggest thing I struggle with is circular buildings, so this really helped me a lot! Thank you again!!

@welixkiba4722 5 лет назад

I was expecting a base build but got a base build instead. Lol Gonna use this for my egg farm

@AaronLongstaff 5 лет назад

Haha yeah, its a base for your base! thanks for watching

@queen9605 3 года назад

I made a simpler circle than this for my eggs too

@ThrilleX_YT 5 лет назад

This is perfect! I'm gonna use this brilliant technique for certain!

@ThePilgrimzProject 5 лет назад

Thanks for the shout out Aaron and this is a really clear explanation, great video :)

@AaronLongstaff 5 лет назад

Seriously buddy been looking for a really easy method and this is for sure the quickest and easiest I have found Kudos!!

@chapito7616 5 лет назад

daaamn did i miss the video? this method is sick!

@IEXOTICBEAUTY 5 лет назад

I absolutely Love ❤️your tutorials! How it’s so detailed and actually put in writing ✍🏻 what is needed, how much and where to put them. The music choice is soothing and doesn’t overwhelm me🙏🏻 Very well thought out channel, that takes the time and effort to creating great content! It’s a shame that ark doesn’t have the numbers or else you’d be arks number one youtuber creator!

@AaronLongstaff 5 лет назад

Thank you so much for the kind words so glad you like the channel!

@Jacob16845 5 лет назад

Love your vids man you are by far the best ark building channel. Keep up the good work. ❤️

@AaronLongstaff 5 лет назад

Thank you appreciate it!

@Jacob16845 5 лет назад

Aaron Longstaff Your very welcome! 😉

@smallcutepuppy 4 года назад

Wow, this is so much easier than the old method of placing railings and sighting on a vertical pipe, etc. Thank you!

@Spigget_1.0 5 лет назад

Love your guides Aaron. The music, editing and actual guides are always spot on bud keep up the good work 👍.

@AaronLongstaff 5 лет назад

Thank you buddy!

@chris_momentsofheart3852 5 лет назад

Easier Way to build circles. Cool method^^ Thx for all your helpful videos, aaron!

@David-hx9hb 5 лет назад

This is awesome. Love your videos. I use these to get ideas from or if I wanna build something new and exciting. Good work.

@crazykid67034 5 лет назад

This is by far the most accurate method I've seen so far, definitely gonna be using this from now on :D good stuff as always!

@ericluckey2135 5 лет назад

Awesome build! Will have to try this myself.

@psrgameover7129 4 года назад

Great content and your description was helpful. Keep up the awesome work!

@1001001sos1001001 5 лет назад

Wow, another great build. I built this on Valguero as a starter building and love it!! Just wondering if, after the floor is finished, can I destroy the wooden fence foundations?

@ashr-nz8nr 5 лет назад

Love these video guides very helpful keep up the great work man

@AaronLongstaff 5 лет назад

Thank you Ash!

@nepalesejam7505 5 лет назад

Thank God this came up on my recommended vids! Such a baller way to build a circle. I have been watching building tutorials for a while and never seen this method before.Defo gonna make a couple of these.Was it all your own idea? If so then it is genius. Thanks for sharing :)

@BadassUnicornArkBuilder 5 лет назад

Hehe maybe I'll actually start making circle shapes after this video 🙃

@blackwarrior0776 3 года назад

I got a use for those circle shapes

@SefiroUltima 3 года назад

I'd love to see that

@blackwarrior0776 3 года назад

Can’t remember what it was now, but it wasn’t inappropriate.

@SefiroUltima 3 года назад

jajaja! i was thinking about builds. also about Badass Unicorn too

@lugnutz6531 5 лет назад

Thanks man you make things easy to follow

@TBFGaming 5 лет назад

Way better than my stoneage circles video!! lol nicely done sir, you are as usualy one of the best builders in the game!!! Edit: Maybe I built a Hexadecagon....

@AaronLongstaff 5 лет назад

Haha thank you so much buddy!

@r33ferm4dness 5 лет назад

I own two servers and now I’ve gotta build this!! Thank you for your time and effort!!

@AaronLongstaff 5 лет назад

Thank you!

@imperadorgames1 5 лет назад

Thank you for the explanation!. It was the easiest method I found for this type of construction !. Now I will pass on this knowledge with my constructions !. I love your videos is a great teacher and builder! A hug from a big fan here in Brazil.

@AaronLongstaff 5 лет назад

Why thank you and thanks for the kind words means a lot!

@Mirza5 3 года назад

Brazil 😜😜😜😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳

@TacticalCastle Год назад

Phenomenally explained! Thank you!

@shyammistry2127 5 лет назад

wow, that looks so good!

@ProNwb511 2 года назад

Thank you so much!! Your videos are amazing!

@patrickftw8464 4 года назад

Lol im new to ark, building in this game is so much more complicated than other games of this style lol. All this work... to make a circle xD props to you guys who take the time to figure this out. Took me like an hour to figure out how to build a simple bridge last night

@_Shinasu 5 лет назад

Great video! I really need to get into working with fence foundations more

@AaronLongstaff 5 лет назад

Fence foundations for the win

@dooku186 4 года назад

Duuuuuuude, mind blown. Totally using this

@khrismanauval4383 4 года назад

The placing pillar stage remembering me about summoning demon altar

@tracychristman7199 5 лет назад

Ive watched a few of these videos and the items NEVER place as easy as they do in these videos. I get so frustrated because Im doing exactly as they are and it just doesnt work :/

@mryea6954 4 года назад

I feel your pain haha

@MrR3set 4 года назад

Bc this video is over complicated

@supremelordofknives 4 года назад

It might just be they do it many times to perfect their building of it.

@Zanenoth 3 года назад

Well hes probably running mods I would imagine. Unreal engine 4 is garbage and I wish ark had better building uet I understand why it doesnt

@mythicdawnist 3 года назад

It’s difficult to get used to and the angles can be different for others for some reason. Just gotta find the sweet spot and use that angle for that placement

@jazzr.5140 5 лет назад

OMG Aaron this really will help me a lot! I am already thinking of different designs! Thank you so much for this vid! :D

@AaronLongstaff 5 лет назад

No problem can't take credit for the technique though it was The Pilgrimz Project seen his video and thought it needed to be shared with as many people as possible so I decided to make this tutorial!

@jazzr.5140 5 лет назад

Either way thank you for sharing it with us! And also thank you pilgrimz project XD

@Gunnerererer 4 года назад

Thx ive been wanting to know.

@gamenicity5905 5 лет назад

Thanks for sharing!!

@taostone8065 4 года назад

I love this video. I use it alot. Very helpful.

@dawn9953 3 года назад

This gave me a sick idea for a hatchery

@Major4D 4 года назад

Beautiful video! 👍

@TheSonsofSigmar 3 года назад

With the pillar placement does it have to be natural snaps or can you use ceilings to drop the pillars if you are on extremly uneven terrain?

@bloodsuckinflea 5 лет назад

This method is so brilliant in its simplicity that it makes me feel stupid for having overlooked something so glaringly obvious. Kudos!

@josesolismusic 5 лет назад

To quote Aladdin. "You call that simple?" lol

@MetzkaGaming 5 лет назад

Incredible video ! Nice job . !!! Nice greetz

@AAAFilm-yt7gx 4 года назад

Love your tutorials but there’s also a bonus: you find modern music that uplifts and doesn’t annoy. Addictive tutorials!

@AaronLongstaff 4 года назад

Ah thanks glad you like them! The music is like marmite splits opinion down the middle I get tonnes of messages saying it’s terrible and tonnes saying they love it!!

@AAAFilm-yt7gx 4 года назад

@@AaronLongstaff Well at first I hate them all because I'm a musician, but by the end of the build I'm energized and haunted by them! Thanks for the stunning content! Btw is this on official ruleset?

@Silverbeard01 Год назад

I have a question, how many ceilings can you go out with this method? Is there a limit before it becomes too difficult or the circle shape becomes deformed? Additionally, I had an issue with the second major step where you are placing the fence foundations after the triangle foundations have been laid. In this step, the fence foundation would break once I picked up the ceilings. I solved this by turning my character and placing the ceilings on a different set of the triangle foundations. I had to repeat this till I found a starting point that wouldn't delete the fence foundation after I picked up the ceilings. From then every step after went smoothly, except for what WEC_ID has pointed out in his reply, at 6:18 in the video. So pay extra attention to where you place the ground fence foundations to help align the stone walls to close off the outside of the build. I managed to miss place 3 of them and that ended up ruining the perfect finish to the build.

@TheOneTheOnly-wi3du Год назад

Amazing video!!

@haleyspapa 2 года назад

So helpful! Thank you! I really hope Ark II will allow us to have a build mode with a free floating ability like this just for building with. It would make life so much easier.

@leggomyeggo3200 2 года назад

Tech suit works fine for this, the free-floating is an admin ability available to admins/solo ark with admin commands enabled if you would like to use it for building

@haleyspapa 2 года назад

@@leggomyeggo3200 I disagree. It can be a challenge to control precisely and Ark II won't have Tek. The suit is convenient, but it's not fantastic.

@ttvKrimson69 4 года назад

I like how you use squares and triangles to make a circle lol, havent tried it yet but it looks awesome! well made video!

@ThunderGodAsh 4 года назад

All these squars

@BJKage 3 года назад

Cool I always wanted to have a circular greenhouse, but never managed such a perfect circle, but I have built a castle on the tree platform based on your video the other day.

@SeraphimDragon 3 года назад

That sounds amazing. I want one. XD

@containsbromelain9371 5 лет назад

Absolutely brilliant! How did you figure this out?

@idkirdk982 Год назад

Totally didnt take me about 2 years to figure out the setting and finally do this right

@BadgerousOne 5 лет назад

Awesome video! Quality as always. Question for you though. Using this method, I'm struggling to get a dinogate to sit on here and have the rest of the ceilings where I removed walls be supported. Any tips?

@netcomptech 2 года назад

I just used this in a build on Lost Island. Had some problems getting a dinosaur gateway(width of two) to fit so that it is aesthetically pleasing, don't actually like the way my solution looks. This seems to be due to not having and edge at the circle that is two ceilings on which to place. In the past planning to use a gateway ahead of time give way to being able to make it snap centered on two ceilings. Just couldn't find a way to have two adjacent ceiling align with the center joint for two ceiling at the perimeter. But I do like this and will be using this else where. Thanks for the excellent videos!

@loudbunny218 2 года назад

Do you happen to have a video on how to place a domed roof on this? Much appreciated 🙂

@SteffyRabbitheart 5 лет назад

This is so cool!

@juliosirot0378 4 года назад

Nice work👍

@jackbrannon2433 3 года назад

Me: Laughs in Conan Exiles. Also Me: Cries because I can't fly an Argie over there ...

@Tinkering2Madness 3 года назад

Thats probably the most difficult way of doing it lmao

@lukehillebrecht2338 3 года назад

There are literally triangles for a reason

@whereiskovaak 3 года назад

@@lukehillebrecht2338 this is a year ago

@pun15h3r. 3 года назад

how is it better mr. genius?

@rattmanchu 3 года назад

To be able to use both methods is help in the long run. If you are a true builder

@n0xxm3rcyxx 5 лет назад

This music makes me dance naked outside in the rain! Amazing thank you.

@mryea6954 4 года назад

I don't know what you look like but that image is stuck in my head damn it haha. Brilliant comment though :)

@Jwii91Fox 5 лет назад

I usually dont watch un narrated videos... I find them tedious to pay attention to the build while having to read while being distracted by w/e music the creator decide to put on... but this was very well done, I love the pause, the arrowed note of next step and fast forwarding of repeated step. I think if you just snap a narration on it instead of me having to read it while paying attention to the build technique it would be a master piece. Thank you for your effort in creating this vid, I love it never the less.

@AaronLongstaff 5 лет назад

Thank you so much for your comment glad you enjoyed it I may add narrations to my videos at some point I am not very confident though and they end up sounding very dull!

@Jwii91Fox 5 лет назад

Aaron Longstaff I don’t know about that my dude, your build vids are pretty awesome, just talk to us like you are teaching us how to do it... because thats exactly what you are doing, showing us the way, teaching us how to build, and thank you for it.

@Green_Roc 5 лет назад

I personally prefer unnarated style. I have stuff I am listening to at the time, and I can easily pause at the text instructions, taking my time to comprehend what is being communicated. I do much better following instructions I can see. Spoken instructions I need repeaded. Aarons videos I like more than other tutorials, so I dont have to skip back to re-hear what was instructed.

@ykalon 4 года назад

@@Green_Roc Keep the text just add narration. Best of both worlds

@petem362 4 года назад

Now I can put my Teleporter on top of it 😂🤣

@averageeldeneternalrevenga7503 3 года назад

Bruh so true

@cerealman2751 4 года назад

The fact that it's easier to make a circle house in minecraft, a game with only cubes, than Ark.

@Rotto-ns9fd 5 лет назад

Awesome! I was wondering if you can to a giant treehouse tutorial.

@AaronLongstaff 5 лет назад

I love treehouses I will defo look into making a super oversized treehouse

@fawlkire5072 3 года назад

Have you ever tried extending this further? I would assume the trick to that being that you'd have to find exact in-between snap points for pillars starting at the 3rd outside row.

@sandyj1561 5 лет назад

Pretty special builder!

@leifalley7167 3 года назад

wouldn't call this "easy method" but it is definitely cool and came out well. curious to give it a shot on my next server

@davidcapps8337 3 года назад

I spent 2 hours gathering material's for this and the fence foundation get destroyed evrrytime when I remove the wood ceilinga

@leomartinez5502 3 года назад

@WEC_ID thank you so much

@Cochise_Chiricahuas 2 года назад

@WEC_ID Thanks

@megaangelo8132 3 года назад

I tried this tutorial once before (relatively new to ark...maybe 2 and a half months)..and the first time i tried i could not get those foundations to snap no matter what, particularly those 3 in between ones..maybe 2 hours of pure frustration, then last night i tried again...and i succeeded!...ONLY USE VANILLA PIECES...NOT SUPER STRUCTURES!!. SS is a fantastic mod...same as S+, but it simply does not work with this particular tutorial. Their is most likely a different method on how to go about using either SS or S+..anyhow, i hope this might help others who struggle...Great tutorial...thank you Aaron, i have subscibed!!

@propcustomz8731 4 года назад

Great build as always Aaron. I wonder, would it work to put the stone fence foundations on the ground below the thatch, then place wall on them. But after that, delete the rest of the center and build ceilings inward off of the fence foundation walls? That way you have a x1 high "foundation" instead of the x1.5 high foundation. I want to do a greenhouse/aviary with this method.

@MrBry65 4 года назад

This was fun! Thank you. Only thing I had a problem with was that I used S+ and for some reason the S+ stone fence foundation wouldn't snap to the thatch ceiling. NP though, I just used vanilla stone fence foundation and all was good ^_^

@Hahapotatoes 3 года назад

wish I read this before starting lol Also using s+ and wondering why it isn't snapping to the ceilings

@East-Siberia 2 года назад

"snap a fence foundation in between the 2 ceilings", I have clicked the mouse firmly between the two wood floors, but the bardur doesn’t appear. And thank you very much Aaron for your video tutorials.

@thegamercraft77boi55 4 года назад

Can u make a tutorial for a pvp build which looks nice and is organised and has defence

@maxximilian__ 3 года назад

This looks beautiful but why can't I get past step two? The fence foundations weren't snapping in between the ceilings on the hexagon despite straight snaps being enabled. Does Structures Plus eliminate the need for these steps?

@mckaylafoster9592 Год назад

same i can’t place the fence foundation :(

@MagnifyTheLORD343 2 года назад

So much harder than it looks, great video! Just build mine thank you.

@AaronLongstaff 2 года назад

Glad I could help!

@aquilaace4948 3 года назад

Had my own way of making a 12-sided "circle" of foundations, but this 24-sided monstrosity is awesome. I would add that, if you aren't concerned with resource use, you can skip the final, outer fence foundations, attach a staircase to the inside of the outer wall you made, then attach an actual foundation to the bottom of the staircase. Repeat that all the way around and then you can destroy all the walls and pillars and use the outer foundations as a means to work inward until the entire base is actual foundations and only a couple feet off the ground. With this method, you don't need to switch to thatch, either. Also, just so others know... You don't actually HAVE to use wood or stone. Metal works just fine.

@mwylach 2 года назад

Im trying that, but dont understand very well, staircase aré the spiral one?

@kferg 3 года назад

The final stone fence foundations wouldn't work, but square foundations went down without an issue (maybe an xbox thing). building the outer walls off of the foundations (rather than the ceilings) enabled ability to put a roof on this and remove all of the inner pillars so you can live inside it. thanks

@YanoshDanosh 3 года назад

this is so awesome!

@industrialforge9680 3 года назад

Wow these are actually coherent instructions. :)

@AaronLongstaff 3 года назад

Thanks I do try to make them easy to follow

@industrialforge9680 3 года назад

And they really are, and I would imagine they would be resource expensive but hard to break through if you do it right

@alexanderkircher1312 4 года назад

This is mindblowing!!!

@taostone8065 4 года назад

This is absolutely f**king finish. I am so going to use this.

@metallizard88 3 года назад

Nice. Time to make a castle.

@K162KingPin 3 года назад

Does work for me. I tried standard and S+ blocks. When I destroy or pick up the second tile the fence foundation breaks. Tried many times many angles, same effect. There are easier ways to get a circle base on relatively flat ground, I was hoping this pillar system would be better for uneven ground.

@QuattroRocket73 2 года назад

Yeah I am having the same problem !

@jasminekerr2601 Год назад

I did the same thing and then realised that I had to start my first square ceiling at a different snap point. Each one has to go between the join of the triangle foundations.

@K162KingPin Год назад

@@jasminekerr2601 That was a year ago

@stevenwhite6134 4 года назад

Subbed... You're a genius x

@AaronLongstaff 4 года назад

Thank you and thanks for the sub!!

@jfwright1573 5 лет назад

Is there a video showing finished house with decor? You did great here for the building nerds but you forgot the icing on that cake for us decorating geeks 😢. Love your work

@AaronLongstaff 5 лет назад

unfortunately not it was a video for the base only

@jfwright1573 5 лет назад

@@AaronLongstaff, thanks for the reply 💘 Maybe you can revisit can complete? Some of us are not as creative and would like to see the amazing house that you could put on this engineering genius of a platform. Thanks again for sharing your fun and work 👌

@someeguy6131 4 года назад

I need help for what ever reason after i place the wooden fence foundation between the ceilings and then remove them,the foundation breaks. What do i do?

@turkeysandwhichwithcheese3422 4 года назад

Same problem

@turkeysandwhichwithcheese3422 4 года назад

So what i ended up doing was making thatch cielings ,wood pillars and ladders did it on official you have to be looking almost straight down to place things

@Jaeterai 4 года назад

wrong spot

@SwissStrawberry 4 года назад

Sequence is key. You really nid to make it in the order of the video to make it work

@someeguy6131 4 года назад

Myu La well that’s what I did but nothing worked

@bakotademon5543 3 года назад

Amazing thanks so much...💜

@stormagus 2 года назад

Did this get bugged. Every time I try to pick up the wooden ceiling it destroys the fence foundation?

@bogdanhiges728 3 года назад

Pretty amazing

@lebanony0808 3 года назад

I really want to learn more about Ark. I play this game long long time ago since it's being released and I want to be better I want to know all the secrets in how to build very beautiful and nice and creative building. I am sorry if I am bothering you but I saw how you are building and I love everything that you're doing In ark.

@darkblossom19 3 года назад

Question pls cause I'm wanting to make a round base and a friend sent me this video. Can make this out of wood and then replace the wood with metal? Also using these same steps can it be made wider?

@caninefungus4996 3 года назад

deam son you good builder you deserve the like of evryone that watched the video

@SifArtorias 3 года назад

Hey so. Would it be possible to build this closer to the ground by sinking the initial triangle foundations or would that break part of the build?

@mekkiepoo Год назад

I made this on my island base and it worked wonders! But now that I'm trying to do it on scorched, the first fence foundation breaks whenever i remove the ceilings, no matter which snap point i use.. did they change something, or am i missing something? vanilla, no s+

@1ManParT 5 лет назад

That’s amazing, but could you show us how one might build a ceiling on that thing?

@josesolismusic 5 лет назад

I was wondering the same thing. I imagine you would have to repeat the same process?

@shelmmii9425 5 лет назад

I built a ceiling just fine... in fact I made it a double story so I made two ceilings

@qlo_olp2980 4 года назад

I'm no pro , but can u can snap a pillar 1 or 2 higher ? , (remember there's still pillars beneath). There4 there's should be no problem. Just repeat the sealing part over the # of pillars of your choosing.

@jenniferjohnson7976 4 года назад

Just build your walls up first and the ceilings will snap on correctly.

@qlo_olp2980 4 года назад

@@jenniferjohnson7976 I just tested it and yep that works.

@Saviorborn 2 года назад

So I had some pillars that wouldn't get up to the right snap height is there a fix to this? (Attmepted to snap a pillar ontop of them but it wouldn't go low enough )