Arkham Batman Has Plot Armor? 

I wanna debate because I love arguing but sadly we agree

@@Tappiteetoo bruh

Ok

I am Mr keep it solid in the video the one who said the thing about the tanks, you did not refute my point and I will be in SK’s call today to showcase why the hate towards SSKTJL is just cope‼️

@@mrkeepitsolid3490 the game sucky

Lex Luthor is a REAL threat though compared to Suicide Squad

Didn't lex solo the suicide squad as well 😂😂 with his tech when he froze them all in place? So wonder woman, flash, batman, green lantern, and lex Luthor all either soloed the squad or had the opportunity to do it and none of the squad died. That was pretty insane. I mean braniac did call the suicide squad the margin of error

@@guardiansofthecontest3461 please, upgrade your vocabulary dude.

@@LAGator-qu7tcwhat was hard to understand?

​@@calebstevens9446😂fr bros delusional.

Is this not plot armour tho. Like I love the Arkham series and I just finished replaying Arkham knight and I def feel like that in itself is plot armour. The amount of times Jason just leaves an encounter for Batman to deal with goons is kinda high

Also I get criticisms with suicide squad but in no way do I think it’s a 0/10. The gold k and speed force decoupler and yellow lantern rings which are known to be weakness to green in many scenarios are not bad imo with the way the narrative goes

​@@aalishanjessani3505You forget how cocky Jason is

​@@aalishanjessani3505 No? Its a character, is it plot armor if Spider-Man gets punched in the face because he jokes too kuch?

@@trevorphilips9065 not to mention Jason was probably having mixed emotions about killing him.

In what way did Rey not struggle? She struggled internally with the desire to return to her life on Jakku for a family that didn’t love her (at least until TRoS changed that). She comes to rely on the Force to defeat Kylo Ren the same way Luke relies on the Force to pull a “1 in a million shot.” My memories foggy on TFA because I typically don’t revisit any movie I watch, so I really only remember her solitary life on Jakku, meeting Finn, Han and Chewbacca, going through a series of visions that causes her to flee and be captured by Kylo Ren, resisting his mental interrogation meeting up with the group sent to rescue her and defeating Kylo in an unfair matchup, where she was on the defensive for a majority of the fight. I ignore the other 2 because I just don’t even remember anything at all from either, but if you’re so insistent that she doesn’t struggle in TFA please list them.

Womp womp

​@@howdoichangemyusername9802 umm bro he already made a video about how Ray us a Mary Sue so there isn't really a reason to do all that like for example of Ray being a Mary Sue so you remember the first ever fight she had with an light Saber yeah the fight she nearly beat Kylo Ren in or when she mind tricked a soldier without being trained in the force those are a few examples of her being a Mary Sue

@@marvel9496 so Rey barely managing to beat an injured and mentally drained Kylo Ren and mindtricking stormtroopers, who are malleable to such an ability is a Mary Sue. But Batman beating 8 assassins, capturing escaped Blackgate convicts, solving murder mysteries the police couldn’t, shutting down Black Mask’s operation, solving the Pinkney murder mystery, destroying Penguin’s weapon stache and stopping Riddler from revealing leaked information all in a single night when he’s still inexperienced isn’t a car of him being a Mary Sue. Keep in mind some of those assassins would’ve definitely been more trained or experienced than he was. Assassins like Deathstroke, who was prior military and already looks like he’s 60, or Shiva who’s trained longer in martial arts than Batman has. Batman would be the equivalent of someone who’s better at Michael Jordan in Basketball, better than Michael Phelps in swimming, better than Muhammad Ali in boxing, better than Babe Ruth in Baseball and really being better than whoever is considered the best at whatever sport all at once. Athletes that are dedicated to that single sport and this person is better than all of them when he’s equally distributing his time amongst multiple sports.

@@howdoichangemyusername9802 bro like I said she did all of that with no formal training even master jedi would have to train to be able to use the mind trick they would have ro train to go up against a foe like Ren who was literally one of the best light Saber duelist at that time and for batman he was trained to do those things like in the dlc the combat sections of the dlc and yes he was inexperienced thats why he kept looking over the clues cuz he was too hot headed and filed by vengeance that's why he lost to bane the first time they fought that he didn't even solve the case until meeting the joker for the first time

IN ALL HIS FIGHTS!

Superman wouldn’t do that to people, he has his own restraints

Superman is under Brainiac's control. He would do that. And the spaceship probably won't break.

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Batman became to me a symbol for overcome hard situations. I never felt like I would have been able to be happy again but I just found myself that happiness should be inside of me and not trying to put that on expectations, people or objects. Happiness is a state of mind, discipline is a state of mind.

​@@BlaxkSunwhat's so funny? Batman has been put through countless situations where he had to face his fears which has been established through Arkham Asylum and even in the comics. He's a fictional character,if you can't get that through your thick skull, you are no different than the dumbasses who compare captain Marvel with him.

so if inject batman with a lethal dose of fent, he can just not die because of his will power right?

@@Eric-xf4ufwell this is a fictional universe we’re talking about were they have poisons stronger than anything in our world & Batman especially Arkham Batman has trained his body to be resistant to most said toxins in his universe to where he can come up with an antidote to be able to survive.

​@chandllerburse737 not in origins, which is what they are talking about

@@chandllerburse737 Because, like I said, they modified him. It's like if a doctor attached a Crocodile's tail to your tailbone, they overfed you, make your nose a Prosthetic to look less human, file down your teeth, etc. You'd look less human, but it doesn't change that you're human.

The info files in game clearly state Killer Croc is a metahuman. He had super strength and crocodile like attributes WAAAAAAAAAY before scientist did any thing to him. And even after it's not like they injected croc dna into him, the mutation became more severe due to the physical trauma they were putting him through. I'm really not sure what point you're trying to make here. The real reason batman can actually Fight Waylon in knight is cause he's wearing a whole Exo suit, same reasoj he one shots Deadshot. Which honestly feels like a Cop out but it's way more sensible.

@@chandllerburse737 The suit just makes him more fast in combat, more durable to attacks, and increases how many G’s he can take when he’s grappling or jumping out the Batmobile. So you’re right it doesn’t increase his strength.

Arkhams Killer Croc is a crocodile man. Since when does a severe skin condition make you as tall as a house

I agree because your comparing Batman a well written character who earned everything to rey a character some kid written in the back of his mom car

So tell me then, what training did Batman go through that allows him to punch speedsters, dodge omega beams, or sneak past superhearing? Or generally being on equal footing to people that dedicate their whole life to a certain category while Batman would have to distribute his time amongst multiple things. Lady Shiva practically dedicated her life to martial arts and yet Batman is close to her in said category despite also having to divide his time between creating contingencies for anything, learning every academic possible, managing his billion dollar company, training whatever teen is holding the Robin mantle, being an active member of the Justice League and also having to maintain his title as “World’s Greatest Detective.” Bruce may not be the BEST at ANYTHING, but he’s way too GOOD at EVERYTHING. You have Batman overcome 8 of the world’s deadliest assassins in a single night despite it being an early part of his career as Batman as well as the fact that Batman is a MAN and not say it’s plot armor? Batman is constantly given the leeway to do the most op shit because he’s a well established character in media. If a brand new character was created that was essentially supposed to be a mere man, but he managed to do everything that Batman does, no amount of training would stop people from labeling him as a Gary Stu. Going off of the first sequel movie alone, Rey’s feats that most people point to are fixing the Millenium Falcon, mindtricking a stormtrooper and defeating Kylo Ren. All of which at least have some credibility. Rey spent her life from childhood to adulthood living on the harsh world of Jakku. Her life clearly indicates she got by through selling pieces of destroyed ships from the Battle of Jakku. This would on some level explain how she could fix the Falcon. Mind-tricking the stormtrooper is contrived but so was Luke managing to use the force to turn the proton torpedoes to make a 90 degree angle, or Anakin somehow surviving the Battle of Naboo. Those aren’t given the same criticism. There’s a pretty big gap between use the force to predict your enemies attacks and use the force to make an impossible shot while being flanked by the the most dangerous person in the galaxy. Kylo Ren was already injured by Chewbacca’s bow caster which as seen before, could launch armored stormtroopers across the area like a doll. That combined with the fact that he killed his father which clearly put him in a bad mental state meant were enough. Not to mention that Rey again was raised most of her life on Jakku which was clearly a hostile environment.

​​​​​@@howdoichangemyusername9802I can understand your point to Batman, but Rey it's obviusly a Mary Sue with all the letters. In the first movie she can pilot the Millenium Falcon with no problems, and it's her first time in the ship (and she also can do a lot of tricks to experimented First Order pilots). She is better pilot than the freaking Poe Dameron, who whole purpose in the story is beeing a great pilot. Also, with NO contact with the Force before she can do a mental trick to a person. A Force technique that practically anyone uses in the 9 movies because it's suppose to be one of the most difficult things you can do. And it's the first thing she does. And she defeats Kylo Ren. Yes, he is wounded, but Kylo Ren was trained by the f-king Luke Skywalker, the savior of the Galaxy (with the pardon of Anakin), and is Leia's son, who is supposed to be as great as Luke with the lightsaber as The Rise of Skywalker established. And it's the first time she ever touch a lightsaber to fight. She didn't have any notions of how to use that weapon, and Kylo Ren it's (technically) and expert, that killed (with the Knightsof Ren I suppose) an entirly Academy of young Jedi. And that's only in the first movie. Rey it's probably one of the most evident Mary Sue characters that I've seen in my life (at least that isn't made it in purpose).

First of all, batman did not punch speedster, dodge omega beams, or sneak past super hearing in the arkham-verse. Also he litterly trained non stop since he was 9 to be the greatest in different cattergories. Also, it was only 7 because electicutioner was a joke. Shiva only wanted to test him. As for the others, killer croc is slow and untrained. firefly was only concerned with burning buildings. Dead shot and deathstroke were the only two that were both trained and wanted to take him out. Also, batman is a superhero. He is designed to do more than the average human. if you hate him for that, you hate the majority of action movie protagonists. As the video says, he also makes many mistakes in the saga and even loses. As for Rey, I could see her standing a chance against kylo but not winning do to kylo having the literal force. Also, Luke did not use the force to turn the torpedo. He is a skilled pilot do to him flying the skyhoppers on tattooine. Anakin surviving can be escused because he studdied ships and drove pod racers. Her using the force makes less sense due to the fact it was out of no where and she did not even believe in the force until just before. I agree with her fixing the falcon makes sense. Rey also brings the lightsaber to her with no training.

@@dukeslytalker1192 “he literally trained nonstop since he was 9 to be the greatest in different categories.” That’s my issue. There are plenty of other characters that put just as much time in ONE category that Batman is better at. Who should be better at Martial Arts? Batman who started at age 9 and also has to learn a multitude of other things that I’ve listed before, or Shiva who learned at an even younger age and is solely dedicated to Martial arts? Shiva wanting to test him doesn’t mean she’d hold back. She wanted to observe both his skill and his morality. There’s no reason to suggest she wasn’t attempting to kill him. Killer Croc clearly wasn’t slow. He was fast, aggressive, but also reckless. Firefly wasn’t concerned with blowing up buildings. He was using it as leverage to force Batman to confront him. It’s not that Batman is a superhero. It’s that he’s still supposed to be just a man. Yes he’s well trained and that explains why he can do things other humans can’t, but regardless, he’s still one of them. I always say this but I think Batman would be a lot more interesting if he were written like Sokka in Avatar TLA. His feats are impressive and for 14 year old boy, he’s remarkably accomplished, but I never got the feeling that he was beyond that. I watched Sokka lead an army of Water Tribe and Earth Bending warriors, I watched him fight alongside people who can manipulate the very elements around him. I watched him defeat Combustion Man who was giving Aang, the AVATAR: Master of ALL Elements trouble. He does so much and yet it doesn’t feel contrived. I still get the feeling the Sokka is still just a 14 year old kid surrounded by people that could defeat him without really trying. If Sokka was written like Origins Bruce, he’d have defeated a list of accomplished firebenders by himself, defeated Suki and the Kyoshi Warriors by himself and do it all within a single episode in S2 when he isn’t at his max potential. I always assumed the reason Batman was appealing was that he’s just a man surrounded by people that can move faster than light, thousand year old warrior deities, and people that can move the very planets themself, but he stays not because he’s even capable of matching him, but because he knows it’s right to stand alongside a league of heroes dedicated to protecting the world. A good video by Sage’s Rain highlights what I’m talking about with Sokka. But Batman’s accomplishments might as well make him another superhero with god like abilities which defeats the purpose imo. In the Arkham saga he hardly loses. They’re more like setbacks, where yes the action or inaction causes Batman to stumble. But there’s few moments where Batman is essentially on the ground (metaphorically speaking). Aang and the gang failing to defeat Ozai during the Day of The Black Son is a loss. Azula capturing Ba Sing Se is a loss. The Rebel Alliance losing the Hoth Echo base is a loss. The point I’m getting across is that these feel far more tangible than Batman’s. Up to Arkham Knight, the only true loss I felt he suffered was Talia and Joker’s death along with Bane wrecking the Batcave. I feel like people severely underestimate Rey in her fight against Kylo. You assume that she was a helpless girl when the reality was she spent her childhood to adulthood on a harsh hostile world where her only means of survival was scavenging old ships on her own. Far different from Cal Kestis who while he had a similar occupation in Fallen Order, was actually working it like a blue-collar job alongside people that he was fairly amicable with. It’d kind of like working in a chop shop that admittedly doesn’t have the best conditions, but having a life to go to after, compared to Jason Todd who had no one to care for him as he had to fend for himself and steal parts from vehicles whenever he had the chance. And her life on Jakku was far different than Luke’s. Yes, Luke grew up during the era of the Empire, but his life was relatively untouched by them. He was a simple kid who lived a simple life up until R2 and C-3PO stepped in. That didn’t change anything. Luke flying a T-16 different from flying an X-Wing in a battle against experienced TIE Pilots commanded by Vader. Nor did any of that justify Luke turning the torpedoes via the force. And studying ships and piloting pod racers justifies being able to survive what Anakin went through? Just because you can study firearms and you practice shooting a bow and arrow doesn’t mean you’ll turn into Rambo and gun down everyone in your way with an M4 carbine. It just seems like leeway is given to these characters but not Rey because of the time she was released. TFA premiered near the end of 2015 when people began arguing about wokeness and alt-right, and Rey was caught in the crossfire. Had TFA released prior, I don’t think she’d face that kind of scrutiny. Hell Ahsoka debut literally had her defeat an entire group of Magnaguards that gave Anakin and Obi-Wan trouble, but I don’t remember Ahsoka facing scrutiny for this. Just that she was annoying character.

Batman: Arkham bat

" "Man arkham:Become bat" really makes you feel like a fruit bat munching on an apple,8/10"-IGN

Become bat Batman

Especially since he’s already killing innocent guards with no hesitation.

Yeah, he slaughtered cops and civilians for less.

He was there for the flash. Obviously the squad has crazy plot armor but idk he didn’t really see them as a threat but then again he killed all those security guards

Nah 2 seconds fr Alfred is HIM

​@@Diabolical420 most gigachad old man in DC comics.

@@arjuna6224 Alfred could beat TN1 bane change my mind

@@Diabolical420 that's a fact, alfred has already beaten Superman, TN 1 bane would never even stand a chance.

I mean aren’t we constantly canonically upgrading his suit to be more and more resistant to bullets anyways?

​@LimitlessXperience kinda. It feels like he takes more bullet damage in knight than city but I could be wrong.

@@frogglen6350 No doubt the armor in Knight is much stronger it definitely seems more reinforced. I just can’t tell if from a gameplay standpoint he takes more bullets compared to the other.

@@frogglen6350 That might just be how enemies in Knight are just ruthless and the damage was tuned up a bit to balance how op Batman is in Knight.

@@Mr.PR2000well he needs to be prepared. My bro is the prep time king

I mean he might have had a couple instances of plot armor but I can’t think of any.

@@C0LIN.Most are from Arkham Knight tbh. I can't name any from Asylum, City and Origins. A lot of the Jason stuff is covered by Scarecrows plan but by the time Jason reveals himself, he's pretty much said "fuck the plan" and tries to kill Bruce twice. Then when he finally has a gun to his head... he takes time to bitch and exposit his motivation instead of killing him. It's not an egregious moment of plot armor but it's still plot armor

@@C0LIN. Atleast he didn’t have through all 4 of his entire games.

Yes

​@@C0LIN.Not really

Yep,plus it makes more sense to not dedicate all their personnel to manning tanks when one guy can control a drone army especially if the city is eventually gonna be covered in fear toxin

Obviously

Why did u say stupid are u stupid (also why am i stupid should i go back to the aslume?)

You could argue that in both instances, they used their capes to slow down their fall

What about isms doesn’t excuse the fact of plot armor, plot armor is almost in any story, the example you brought up of the dark knight is still plot armor, but that doesn’t make the story any less good. The issue is with many instances of plot armor where they become contrived.

@@beyond648 Yes you can, some things are easy to rationalize and neither are drawn back because of that, it’s just that one story is criticized for a litany of (I think) unfair reasons while another isn’t, at least as much.

@@pullupenthusiast3800 The Dark Knight and Arkham Knight have almost the same scenario, both work within the context of their settings and stories. This isn’t a knock on either, it’s just that some people have it backwards. And no, plot armor is in fact, not almost in any story. If a writer does a good enough job at making the stakes clear and giving the protagonist enough to work with while still struggling that is not plot armor.

@@X_SW4V_X How do you define plot armor

Yeah trashing on another trilogy to defend plot armor from an objectively garbage game isn’t gonna debunk anything I don’t get how they don’t realize that😂..

@@Cosmicmoralesi mean it’s a game set in the same universe so bringing up plot armor points that happen in the same universe seems like a solid defense

​@jaydantastic3529 but when people ignore, context ignore alot of events etc etc like the people trying to defend this game it falls flat and its pathetic. Like the classic excuse is we know in arkham knight jason just doesnt kill batman cause he wants him to suffer and when he does want to kill him you can tell hes a conflicted emotional mess and wanted to that one last thing to rub it by using his mentors own words against him before victory as a final fuck you. But this game please try and defend why batman beat the league down first, missed shooting harley, knocked out flash. Had the perfect opportunity to kill harley and he doesnt. Explain that or superman the moment he grabs the boomerang why didn't he just heat vision them all? Hes right there not holding back so what the fuck same with green lantern why didnt he just do what he did again at the start? Seeing the problems here?

​@@jaydantastic3529 Let's be honest the Flop Squad had way more plot armor than Batman. Like a lot more in fact it's ridiculous how much plot armor they have. There's no reality where the Suicide Squad beats the Justice League that's just stupid. Batman by himself could take out the Squad with no difficulty. In fact he did both in the animated movie and game. But plot armor came in and he got stupidwashed so he can have a lazy death.

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​@@uslessyoutuber3092I F O U N D Y O U.

He's trained himself to be at peak physical condition. So him doing it without getting tired makes a lot of sense.

@@vruxdrossgaming thank you and have a good day 💗

In a comic book yeah sure, in real life hed be crippled and slowed down years ago @@vruxdrossgaming

@@dc7981it’s almost as if this doesn’t take place in real life!

@@dc7981 fiction has this thing where its not real and therefore doesnt need to apply to real world rules

Yes this is a big issue. Batman as an identity for Bruce is dead. He became a new legend and myth to continue his work. There is zero reason Batman should be in SSJL

@@boredomkiller99 legit lol.

Except he does.

rich people don’t pay taxes, pretty realistic imo

@@tombishop2660 Bruce Wayne pays taxes. Look it up. In fact, Superman is the one who doesn’t pay taxes.

@@BatmanwhogoesHA I know, but if he didn’t, people would still complain

@@BatmanwhogoesHA yea idc if he does or not it’s not that deep i was just making a joke lol

This Mitchell guy sounds like a cool person

@ComposedSage75 I would like to read your comment I really... but I had a flashbang the moment I opened it, so please, please make sure to split your comment into multiple paragraphs. P.S I did in the end read your comment and the entire I was taking tick dmg but it was insightful to read.

He was gripping his arm really hard during that, like he was resisting which the joker didn't appreciate and tried to tickle him with a feather.

​@@arjuna6224that whole scene was better than Suicide Squad

@@jjeffrey7966 true

This is actually a better argument then I made come to think of it

It's hard asf to aim at someone's mouth when there is a literal 6 feet demon bat is charging at you about to beat your ass to the point that you wont be able to walk for 6 months

BECAUSE HE'S BATMAN, duh

I literally explained this, again PAY ATTENTION

@@C0LIN. Oh, I did, I was just saying this to any idiot watching, love the vid, Colin, you did a great job, man.

The thing is calling it plot armor, since that's a term supposed to be used to call out instances of the plot very clearly leaning towards the character without any sort of plausibility, the thing that makes a story flow well is by making the situations feel natural even if it's too "convenient" that the protagonist survives, but people like calling any instance of that plot armor because they like to feel smarter thinking "well a normal human wouldn't be able to survive this", imagine if after hearing a real survival story about a person who came out of a very unlikely situation you say that it was plot armor and then you realize how stupid it is

YAPPING OF THE YAPPINGTONS JUST ADMIT IT BATMAN DID NOT USE PLOT ARMOUR DID HE USE PLOT ARMOUR ON JOHONNY CHARISMA NO

@@natalieDziadon I think that Batman staying awake for a full night while taking down an entire private army, a long with a bat-man creature, a gang leader, another gang leader, a man with an army of basically zombies, a flying pyromaniac, a whole league of ninjas, and a gigantic Crocodile man is at least SLIGHT plot armor, I'm not saying it ruins the game, no, it's not Stupid Squad levels of Plot Armor, but then again, nothing has that level of plot armor, hell, I fucking love the Arkham Games, they're literally my top 4 Superhero video games, but I'm just saying, basically all of main characters in media have Plot Armor, but it the story works when you make it not do much that the characters kill someone who is basically a fucking God(You can guess which game I'm talking about).

100% play the other 3 too Asylum, City, and Origins are all amazing

Play all of them

@@C0LIN. cool thanks

@@nathanadams7595 cool thanks

Ok

*insert jonkler laughing here

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

ngl i by that the suicide squad could beat the justice leauge

​@@mrmelonman2893Explaination?

​@@mrmelonman2893no they can't wym,

1. Scarecrow and Jason wanna torture Batman and get to him mentally by having him continue to fail to stop them 2. The only League member told to keep the squad alive was Batman, and there’s still numerous other things wrong with that fight. Also Brainiac can still keep them alive and capture them easily with his freeze tech and teleporter Stop talking

@@C0LIN. you’re a one and doner tryna argue someone actively playing the game and replaying it to search for things i missed, the batman is giving them orders to not waste time with the squad but batman obviously isn’t blindly giving orders so guess who has to be telling him to do that? please actually play the game instead of “game bad cuz i don’t wanna pay attention since they killed my daddy”

@@C0LIN. also you people and others keep bringing up “brainiac could’ve just warped the squad the entire time but if that’s the case why didn’t he do that to the justice instead of inviting them onto his ship and risking them immediately not trusting him and just blowing it tf up? you keep using that as a way to instantly take out the squad but you’re just assuming you know how it works, based on the entire game (which you would know if you payed attention) all instances of warping happen when the target is in a genuine area, where as the squad who is constantly moving around the city wouldn’t be confined into a smaller area which i assume is how the freezing works, it most likely has a “target must be still so the target can be locked in for this action”

@@jaydantastic3529 U bringing up another plot hole doesn’t fix the single plot hole, you’re using headcanon to defend the game. When u establish a character has an ability that broken there needs to be an explanation why he can’t use it.

@@jaydantastic3529 Yes meaning Brainiac either wants them dead or captured and literally everyone in the league except for Batman try to kill them. And it’s funny Batman tells everyone not to play around yet that’s exactly what he does in his fight. U haven’t countered a single point I’ve made lmfao

I think that's because in Asylum they completely took away his smarts and other abilities besides his physical ones when he got the Titan. And Orgins is made by a different team than the other three.

He didn’t put lethal weapons on the Batmobile bc of Joker and he built the cage as a precaution, bc he had the bad blood in his system in Arkham City but he was cured. It’s literally one of Batman’s most popular trait to be prepared for things that could happen…

@C0LIN. yes, but he would have no reason to think he had bad blood if he didnt test it, and if he was cured and was fine, then he wouldnt have needed to build the cage. the cure stopped him from dying, but his mind was still being affected. and his eyes glowing the exact same way that other joker infected people were isnt with titan bc with bane and batman the green eyes look different

@@jeffflowers4701 If ur evidence is literally BATMAN OF PEOPLE, has a preparation for something. I’m not entertaining this argument. I’m hosting a disagreement day at 5pm EST u can join the stream if u want. Also none of the other Joker infected patients have glowing green eyes.

he had joker blood, but it wasnt the poison that was killing him. it was the blood transfusion. they have different blood types. imma def try to join that bc there is ample evidence saying batman is a joker

I hope you get re educated because it seems like you hit bonked your head too hard . Ssktjl fans are one of the most toxic and dumbest fan base I have ever seen.

Peter literally does react to it if u slow down the scene, he’s just surprised by MJ jumping in front of him. The fridge thing is fair but changes nothing about the plot if he gets up 5 seconds earlier.

The face change is some pretty bad plot armor

yeah, I wonder if Mary Sue is overused as a critique, or even is one. Like, does a character being a Mary Sue really mean they are a bad character?

@@channel45853 I'd say it's an overused critique for sure

He was for a bit until he gave himself the antidote if he didn’t cure himself he would be a titan

Its plot armor where Jason Todd, instead of knocking him out and bringing him to Scarecrow decides to shoot him and then tell the militia to take care of him (which means to kill him since those militian can actually kill you if you don't press any button). Also, if Scarecrow really wants Batman alive, why tf did 20 armed tank pulled up and started shooting at him when he saved Barbara? Why during gameplay litterally everyone is trying to kill you and not knocking you out? It feels like they want to kill Batman but when they got the chance thei suddently remember about "Scarecrow plan" and then they just give up

@@PannaCotta57 Bruh Jason and Scarecrow wanted Batman to suffer, besides he could easily escape any captivity they have since he would have upgraded his utility belt meaning if they tried to remove it, they’d be shocked, if anything it would be a stupid move for them to bring Batman to them and the tanks? Oh yeah, the tanks he’s easily fucking decimated so far,he could have the Batwing fire upon from above(which Jason would know about and thus inform Scarecrow) plus knowing Batman he likely developed two prototypes of the Batmobile in case one was destroyed or damaged which we see is the case! Edit:that’s also not counting the fact that Batman’s utility belt has a tracker and either Robin and or Nightwing could find him and break him out! And in terms of your “well the militia kill him in game play!” That’s not canon nor is it a feasible option, by that logic Professor Pyg,Mad Hatter,Deadshot or heck any random thug off the street has the capability to kill Batman, I hope I don’t have to explain how outlandish,illogical and nonsensical of a option that is!

@@PannaCotta57 Knocking and bringing an escape artist and martial artist who on his person has a belt containing a myriad of technological equipment that only he can remove is not a sound strategy! Also they wanted him to witness Barbara’s “death”, that’s pretty hard to do when he call the Batmobile or Batwing, Fire a smoke/tear gas round to disorient everyone and take them down,break through the glass(or open the door though he’d risk being exposed to fear gas) and realize “Barbara isn’t here!”

@@henrygambles3652 So they want Batman alive therfore they attack him with tanks and soldiers because they're sure that he'll defeat them all. Is that your point? If thats the case, having an army its completely usless since they are just sent do die for no reason. What if a tank hitted Batman before he could call his Batmobile in the saving Barbara scene? Its not an impossible scenario, i would say its pretty likely so even in that case Scarecrow was not trying to kill Batman? As for the belt, i think That Jason and/or Scarecrow would be more than capable of removing it, hell if even the main villain isn't able to remove a belt i don't know what to say. They could just hold Batman at gunpoint and ordering him to remove the belt while he's locked up in a cell or something. The possibilities are endless. Its possible to trap batman as we can see in the Arkam city DLC. Also i'm not sure if Scarecrow wanted Batman to witness Barbara's real death. When He dropped her from the building i dont think he was expecting Batman to see it Edid: yeah, i said that soldier went to die but they didn't. I think you get my point anyway

@@PannaCotta57 Yes, they know they soldiers and tanks stand no chance against him, that’s not the point, they’re meant to slow him down and distract him! Ah yes Tanks that are known for power and not known for accuracy and it’s not like Batman is a “master of stealth”..oh wait! No they wouldn’t, Batman improves throughout each games and would likely improve his technology, if Scarecrow tried to remove it, he’d get 60,000 volts to the face, Jason you could maybe make an argument for but given his presumed death Id say it’s unlikely! Ah yes, a gun, Batman has never faced anyone wielding a gun except Joker,Harley Quinn,Penguin,Two Face,Deadshot,Deathstroke,Black Mask and several armed thugs, also he’s not afraid to die and they don’t want to kill him, what’s that going to do? No there are no possibilities because Batman is still just as capable and would take them down at this point, besides they want him to suffer, you don’t make someone suffer by doing it rapidly, you draw it out, let them believe they have a chance to stop it only to crush their hopes at the exact moment! if you Were talking about him after Barbara is presumed deceased, then yes I’d agree but you’re not! That’s Not what I’m referring to and you know it! Again there’s also Robin and Nightwing who are available at various points(or at least until the Panessa Studios in the case of Robin) Robin on his own would lose to Jason but Nightwing as stated in Arkham VR by Batman is “The Best Fighter I’ve ever trained!” By the time SSKTJL rolls around, he states that Robin and Nightwing with help from Oracle are the only people who can beat him, and Jason wouldn’t stand a chance against Nightwing nor would the Militia! They’re drawing things out because they want to make him believe he has a chance to stop them only to crush his hopes! Edit: also Jason is angry and vengeful, by no means is he an idiot but he’s impatient and impulsive, he’s not going to KO him!

I quite literally explained this…

This doesn't counter what I said in the video, and everything you said can be attributed to hallucinations from the fear toxin. And Batman still cured himself, as (again) I explain in the video