Arle Nadja, the girl who resolves conflicts with puzzles, stopped the sun from toasting everything, and... *checks notes* messily beheaded a dude at 16?
@@seasonalspirit3045 Only in ARS? So I guess that game was a Prequel, Madou Monogatari has a pretty interesting nonsensical story if you try to piece everything together, but if you start trying to understand it, it makes everyone except Schezo look like the antagonist. Either way I think I was being a sarcastic douchebag about it, since it's clear from physical appearance that she's older than that, and back then I knew way less about the series than I do now.
technically different timelines between puyo puyo and madou monogatari there was a universe reset after the events of madou, puyo puyo takes place after that.
@@DreamerFromTheDepths yes, this is madou monogatari 2 and she is 16 in this game. She was 6 in monogatari 1 and was still 16 in madou 3. But in ARS she was 4, i think.
Notes: Schezo is canonically both hardy enough to survive decapitation with no lasting injury and weak enough to get nigh-mortally sunburned after like thirteen minutes of being outside.
you seem to be joking but i have to say it. Madou monogatari and puyo puyo are different timelines/universes and the sun was like 2 or 3 times bigger when he got sun burned
@@jestfullgremblim8002 Are they different timelines though? Sure, Puyo may have started as a spinoff, but it's now the main series so what happens in Puyo is the only canon you'll get.
@@heyoyo10gaming4 im pretty sure that the PC98 release is often considered non canon and had a time reset at the end of the game, which could imply that the Puyo Games and the rest of the Madou games fork in this specific game
@@ThePortalDark Madou Monogatari: Michikusa Ibun bets to differ, the game where Arle and Carbuncle discover the spellbook that allows them to pop puyos by lining 4 of the same colour up.
Unless Madou Monogatari is considered to be the last game then Schezo technically survives being headed and having his head be torn to shreds by Arle. So yeah...There's that, you're right though, Madou Monogatari was creepy.
Yeah, especially with the designs of the cat enemies and the dragon boss. However, they've been redesigned to look cute and less menacing in the Game Gear version.
I'm late but the reason schezo could survive after that is probably because ablity of crystal sword Which makes him never die. And that's why he is 180+ years old
Well, this doesn't happen in the Game Gear version at all; and besides, I guess neither of them are canon. Either way, the PC-98 versions had some morbid stuff in them!
@@RyukyuShin1997 They did do that, LMAO. If I recall correctly, in the same game, Arle goes to obtain a special "Seraphim Orb" which is magic and stuff. The owner of the orb, Lilith (Satan's wife and a whole host of other things) is like omg what are you gonna do with that! And Arle just uses the power of the orb to bring Schezo back and make everybody forget about what happened. So Schezo doesn't even have a recollection that he died, and Arle (most likely) doesn't remember killing him. Take this with a grain of salt, because I don't remember if this happened in THIS GAME exactly.
What scares me about these games is that Puyo Puyo Champions acknowledges their existence, meaning it's possible that every game in the series is canon, making this whole sequence very strange.
Ech, Sega just loves doing reference And besides, Characters in puyo puyo before fever (except Carby, Arle, and Satan) are all replicas made by Satan because the original madou world got destroyed, even the people in it and he had to remake it. And Arle that we all know is just half soul of the real Arle (the other half is in Puyo Puyo 4)
@@prizmastarz742 When I wrote this message at the time I was unaware that the art was from Puyo Puyo Quest, and when mobile games are just there, without being canon or whatever, then it's pretty much harmless, but that's interesting to know, I think the World being destroyed was something Schezo was supposed to do though not Arle or anyone else, Schezo makes a lot of that clear, just a little bit ago I thought way too much about it and I remembered that MM ARS was a prequel, which means Schezo was pulled in to the World unwillingly, potentially along with other people except Arle, Carbuncle, Rulue and Satan who already seemed to be there, at the end of MM ARS Schezo apparently escapes the mirror, but I think that happens after the World ends, after Schezo technically succeeds thanks to Arle. Schezo's name means "Man Who Defliles The Gods" and whenever he meets characters with large amounts of power, and seemingly evil power at that, he assaults them with the intent to kill them and take that power to use it against Satan and the other Gods, and if he succeeded he would have killed them all and ended that World himself, which likely would have freed him from that World and potentially everyone else too, Schezo knows other characters with large amounts of power and never attacks them with the exception of Sig who has an immensely powerful demonic left hand, the only people he ever attacks have powers like that, other people who also have large amounts of power are people he either respects or just simply doesn't attack. I know it takes place afterwards but it's clear from Puyo Puyo Tetris that Schezo only attacks character with suspicious massive powers, so only Arle, Satan and Sig, he pretty much never attacks anyone else with the intent of killing them like that, in killing Schezo here, Arle saved him but everyone else still remained so Satan's fake Worlds will never end, Schezo was always different from everyone else in the story, his personality was different, his reason for being in the World or showing up there was different, and his powers almost eclipsed everyone else's, and he's also the only character who is completely immortal. But that's my theory on it.
@@thetreyceratops Probably meaning that characters that appeared in Madou Monogatari but not in regular Puyo Puyo games appear in Quest, and are possible player avatars in Champions and Tetris 2.
@@Screwy (This response gets far fetched and a bit out of hand but it's my theory on who the antagonist in these games really is, it's long so don't read it if you don't want to.) He says overthrow but I really think Schezo intends to kill Satan in this game, since Madou Monogatari ARS takes place before this game then it's safe to assume that Schezo was ripped from the real World and thrown into this one, despite Schezo's ending in MM ARS, it's clear that he doesn't actually escape that mirror he found because otherwise he shouldn't be in the other games, he's the only immortal character in the series, he's more powerful than the Gods and his only real goal is to stop evil doers and kill Satan, unlike everyone else in the series Schezo is also the only character who can pick up on how powerful someone is, the way I see it is that Schezo got pulled in, potentially went insane because he couldn't escape, and on top of this his name essentially means "Man Who Defiles The Gods." All of that makes me feel like Schezo is supposed to just kill the guys at the top to escape, and potentially save other people from it, the only two people he ever actually attacks is Arle and Sig, both of them because they have a lot of power, Sig out of the two has a power which is demonic, considering that he only ever outwardly attacks Arle, Satan and Sig, I assumed that this means they all might have this power that Schezo talks about all the time, as we can see in the other Puyo Puyo games he likes to be left alone so he might fight someone in a Puyo battle if they get on his nerves, but it's clear he doesn't mean to hurt them or kill them just drive them away, and on top of that Carbuncle really doesn't like Schezo. Most characters do dislike him because of his creepy wordings and such, and Arle gets along with him somewhat, in spite of all this Schezo intends to kill Arle and take her power even though she sticks up for him a lot, it makes me feel like Schezo knows that it's something he just has to do even if it's not necessarily something he wants to do, what that means to me is that Arle, Carbuncle, Satan and Sig are all the real enemies who are getting in the way of Schezo's goals which could save him and everyone else from being separated from their Worlds forever, he wants to leave the mirror and he's the only one who shows any kind of signs of determination to get what he wants, not a single other person displays any of these signs. As if it's not enough, he doesn't mind Lemres who is by all means a powerful warlock like Schezo is, yet not a single time does Schezo address him with any aggression, in fact he seems to respect him which isn't how he treats Arle and the other characters I just mentioned, despite how powerful Lemres must be Schezo never attacks him, he would only fight Lemres if he ever got in his way, and on top of that Schezo would not end it by killing Lemres, despite the fact that Schezo is portrayed as this antagonist, I believe that it's actually the opposite way around even if the characters themselves don't say anything about it.
Many of the characters in this game and some songs were reused for Puyo Puyo late 1992 and we weren't familiar with Puyo Puyo, so we had characters replaced with ones from The Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog when Puyo Puyo came out for the west. For Sega, it was released as Dr. Robotnik's Mean Bean Machine. We were familiar with Sonic the Hedgehog at the time. Fortunately, we are familiar with Puyo Puyo now as we now have some Puyo Puyo games released in the west.
@Masked Person I just watched a long play of the game to see if you were right and Schezo does not appear in that playthrough, so either you're wrong or he just didn't appear in the playthrough I watched.
I’ve heard that it’s not so much that the PC98 Madou ports are *dark* as much as they have a morbid sense of humor. Sounds like Madou was always a quirky RPG more than anything else
PK Radical! After being trapped in his -sex- dungeon, Arle tries to escape. Schezo corners her near the exit, and she has to defeat him. This ends up turning him into a head. And he didn’t even get to score together
So, how is he alive and with his head in place in subsequent games? lol Is there ever any explained reason for that, or should we just accept that it just "somehow returns to normal"? Or that the PC-98 version is non-canon even within the Compile-only games? I assume Shezo explains how he's alive SOMEWHERE, though, right? Whether it is in a Puyo or Madou game.
..... how the hell would somebody like him survive? i mean, ive seen many people heads cutoff and they weren't alive. so how.... hmm. i guess hes a fucking magic guy. maybe hes immortal when he dies for the 1st time..... and imagine if he was litarley not a survivor, this gamewould of been mature. (it probably already is and also when arle is at low health, she bleeds from her eye or nose. actually both.)
Ice I feel like they could make this a series. Like, a side-series for Puyo Puyo to bring back nostalgia to people who played the original. And maybe it could introduce some lore that explains this
Same. Although Schezo should've just quit while he was...a head. But he had a good head off his shoulders. He could have used his head better though...man, so many head puns I could make.
PC98 was marketed towards adults so children wouldn't stumble across things like this. But hey it's the internet age now so this game can unleash it's true power of child tormenting
carsfan360 No such thing as children’s game on PC98 98% (heh) is Porn, and the rest are violent. Since adults used the PC98 as a spreadsheet machine in the office, many games were adult themed.
Blank Blank this game's pretty much the outlier of the series. It's aesthetic is more morbid than the following games. Seems that they rebooted the MSX's more cutesy look to accommodate to the audience of the PC98
You wanna know something equally messed up about this whole thing too? Arle was only 4 in this game. A 4 year old decapitated someone in a tower filled with monsters that can be killed in equally gruesome ways. I hope that Arle got therapy while Compile was working on Puyo Puyo because the girl needed it.
actually she's 16 in this game! this is madou 2. she was around 4 - 6 in madou 1, with the magic tower. (not that her being older doesn't make it any less traumatizing...lol)
i did say the pc98 games were the worse right? well this is why. The M rated feel for the games feels unneeded with the blood and minor gore, and really forced in this version comapred to how other versions handled it. Even the character designs have been butchered with some characters.
