The artillery part was cool. I'm a field artillery advanced tactical data systems specialist(fire direction center.. aka, computer firing data for howitzers). its nice to see the game do more with artillery. we shot a couple thousand rounds at the taliban in the kunar valley(afghan) in 2011-2012.. fun stuff. this game is a nice simulator, but i wish they'd increase the realism for the aviation aspects a little closer to Digital Combat Simulator, and better frame rates.
I think people significantly overrate the Frostbite engine. Yes it is pretty, but it is nowhere close to the scale and complexity you see in Arma 3. The simulation of separate parts in vehicles, accurate rendering of night/IR vision, accurate weapon performance, mass AI in completely unpredictable terrain with so many different kinds of threats and soooo much more. Frostbite has more advanced graphics and animations... Arma has pretty everything else related to realism. The stuff that matters..
As always, Dslyecxi does a supreme job with this video. Sad though, that most of us are not able to thouroughly enjoy arma 3 in multiplayer right now. And no, we do not use wooden pcs from the nineties.
ArmA has to track thousands of things at once, from each bullet to the day/night cycle. BF3 has hitscan weapons, no AI in multiplayer, and limited air'vehicle assets, there's just way fewer things for the game to think about in Battlefield, that's why ArmA is a simulation game and Battlefield isn't.
Actually no, you said "Battlefield wishes it looked this good and had this high draw distance and map sizes" The performance is due to the game size, but you never made that point. Battlefield is again an arcade style shooter with smaller maps to induce more action.
... Tripazz, you can't airlift vehicles in "vanilla" ArmA3, the viewdistances depend on your (probably unique) computer build, friendlies coming up on your hud is dependent on what difficulty setting the mission is on and "repair zones" are something that mission makers make, unique for each mission. As such, a video could not be created addressing your issues (because that's kind of impossible). Please, stop being so naive.
Battlefield maps are ten times more smaller than Arma 3 maps. Altis is probably like 15 Battlefield 3 maps on one map. So comparing the 2 games makes absolutely no sense
It is raining in side some of the buildings still sept 19. also is the artillery provider broken? i could not seem to get it to work and it was working in the beta.
That's not a problem with the game, it's all of the mods that people make. Singleplayer and the missions that come with the game don't have the FPS issues.
Air lift vehicles with a chopper is only possible in Wasteland mission. View distance depends on what hardware you have(set view distance on 2000 meters) it's enough. Command bar only shows your squad if you are a squad leader. You can set waypoints by holding shift and click anywhere on a map. And you actually thought that you can repair whole vehicle as a engineer lol !? I do understand that a lot of noobs came from COD and BF3 buy anyway here is your answer.
Lazy devs ? This is not shitty EA. BIS is quite a small team compared to other game companies. And no our clan is playing on servers that have at least 40 players or more. And yes you should try sometimes 10 players coop missions rather than 24/7 PVP gamemods. "You could have so much more fps" did you ever consider that such thing is not even possible ? Real Virtuality is quite an old engine, they improve it a lot from Arma 2 but still engine is showing it's age.
The only problem about all of this in the video is that it requires that people to actually work as a team. And in my experience of a online gamer for the past 10 years is that hardly anyone will work as a team. Especially like what was shown in the video, only way to have a team like that in the video is to have a large group of friends that you can actually trust or a clan. Other then that, going into a game with nothing but randoms and trying to do what was in the video is impossible.
In a laptop i5 4GB AMD6470M Windows7 64 bit it runs fine but just in basic missions, not in global battle (in this way it has a lot of lag), but i like the single missions as well, there's no problem about it, i have some addons: switching weapons while walking or running, JSRSsounds, units(usa, spetnaz, sweeden, french, etc.), and more and it give me a good experience in video gaming combat ;) i wish for the future an Arma 4 some kind of BF4 graphics and the GTA V realistic animations and AI :)
I've been a premium member on BF3 since it pretty much started but i've played these sims since the op flashpoint days...... Theres no comparison simple as that.....The only people you get jumping on comparing them are little BF3/COD fan boys that no nothing else other than the so called 'Big titles',,,give them time, they'll learn. And like i mentioned,, i've been playing bf3 since its birth and have decided EA won't be getting my money for this bf3 expansion, oh no i mean bf4.
To bad AI don't even get affected by suppressive fire. They don't find cover, they dont take any special action, they just keep shooting untill they are dead or you are. AI still have super powers. They can see through buildings, tall grass and way to far. Kinda throws off a lot of tactical aspects when AI have super eye sight and can one shot you from 950 meters in the dark without looking. Also hard to get friendly ai to do what you want, they don't do formations correctly still.
First off, great video. Nice way to teach new players what to and what not to etc. Second, all these retarded a## comments are just tedious. To explain to all COD / MH and BF fanboys, this game is a military SIMULATOR. While the prior mentioned are "Arcade Games" (Dont know what these words mean, find a dictionary) Third, the issues people are having with FPS and what not, are both dependant on the server it self, and keep in mind, if you want the full immersion of a mission, try the official.
We old Arma players thank you for your money Dayz/Wasteland players... We play realistic 50-100 player missions with good scripting(good fps) and good company with joy now that bohemia had the money to make arma 3 better... You can continue to play wasteland or whatever and complain about performance which is because poorly scripted and coded missions not to mention laggy servers...
It's usually a server issue. Many people are trying to host 60+ person games on a home PC, sometimes even whilst playing themselves, which isn't going to work. You need a decent dedicated server to host a multiplayer game. That said, optimisation is definitely still needed. Even multiplayer bogs down, and you have a CPU and GPU running at only medium loads whilst the game FPS takes a total dive once you hit a certain number of models. Quite disappointing.
All other shooters have a lot less features and are a lot less demanding than Arma. If you are not pleased with Arma performance don't play it, but stop comparing completely different games from a technical point of view. It's not good to complain that Crysis lags with your PC at the same time Pacman runs great.
Not to mention the other performance issues people are having, i have no idea why, sure my "NASA" rig runs it like a kitten with 60fps stable on localhost and most dedicated servers. But in all honesty, if you play this game at ultra settings with a medicore rig and think its gonna run it smooth, think again ;)
They probably should have started that right after Arma 2 was released. It looks like the decision not to is going to cost them millions in lost sales. I was really looking forward to this game and was excited to get into this and skip BF4 but after what I'm hearing, I'll probably be sadly be skipping Arma 3 instead.
Maybe you can help me out. I have build some missions yet with Opfor having attack Helicopter, but it seems to be way to powerful by now for my community to encouter this. We often suffer like 50% of troops until we can react on it, mostly because the AI shoots before we can even see the helicopter. Is there a way to limit the "action-radius" of AI?
Planes are overrated, especially in scenarios where most opponents are infantry. I've never used any of the OA planes for anything but novelty scenarios, and generally they're only of use to larger squads. I'd rather have working bodyarmor and refined health system than the plane that's ingame, but unfortunately it is what it is.
Updated comment ... Multiplayer performance is nice at some servers, most of the time. I had some issues the first time i installed the game, next time 2-3 days later it was fine. Also helicopter keys can be reassigned, so no problem too. I just was angry before.
I got 10-15 average fps 'playing' multi. Helicopters are impossible to fly with kb/mouse now. Many other totally stupid changes to make game worse and harder to control. I also love the COD arcade grenades style ha ha ... Arma3 is unplayable now, i already miss the 34.99 euro i gave to buy this crap.
On most servers with no problem +30fps. The problem are bad servers that have around 60 players. And yes it's because you play only Wasteland, if that's so than i reccomend playing on Wasteland Sa-matra servers. And btw that link that you send does not exist anymore.
However don't compare the scope of this game to Battlefield 3. Battlefield is an arcade style shooter in the middle between Arma(More simulation) and Call of Duty(Run n Gun). These games aren't anywhere close to being the same game, other than that they all 3 are shooters.
It's an awesome game but it DOES have some severe performance issues. Most of the issues however come from shitty servers running poorly coded missions so all those jumping on some e.g. 404games Wasteland servers and then bitching and blaming the game for their 20 FPS should try something else for once.
*correction, I heard they call it "LEVOLUTION" these days. Putting new numbers behind "DESTRUCTION" probably wasn't enough. But the engine still has no procedural damage built into it, only scripted disappearing walls, same as Arma, but with fancier particle effects.
"I'm getting no problems at all in Arma 3 on two 7870 cards and an 8 core". Well that's no surprise, the system requirements are well below those specs. But many people who meet the system requirements are having problems, especially in multi-player, which is pretty much unplayable for many of us.
Saving the best, the King of Battle, for last. I know it will sound silly, but I wouldn't mind playing the part cannon crewmember in a gun crew in ArmA 3. Having to employ Army tactics for when the gun line is compromised or under attack by infantry, sounds fun.
Frostbite 3.0 (more like Frostbite 1.0.0.3 though) has nothing to rave about, but thanks to EA's massive HYPETRAIN budget, it has the be the most over rated game engine ever made. "Scripstruction" is a joke. Any engine can do that.
I'm getting no problems at all in Arma 3 on two 7870 cards and an 8 core. What issues are you running into, exactly? Oftentimes it's just a simple optimization fix in the launch options that can improve performance dramatically.
Waiting for ACE 3. Because its so stupid, there is a future in game, but arms and vehicles feels a lot much weaker than in ARMA 2, I mean BTR-2 has more rounds, shot faster than any APC in ARMA 3. That just stupid to make so weaker vehicles...
Well u can make it use more cores by right clicking on arma 3 in steam and then choosing properties then go to set launch options. Then type "-nospash -cpucount(number of cores) (if your RAM is higher than 8 or is 8 type after that) -maxMem=8192
This... The wasteland mission are poorly optimised and scripted... Not to mention the code is mainly ported from arma 2 wasteland. Other thing is that people run the servers with machines and broadband which cannot handle the load. It's not the game's fault.
Its not optimized.. at all. they need to fix it, you should not need a computer that's 3 times as powerful as you should need to run it just because they never got around to optimizing the game. altho it has gotten alot better with the last patches
I know, i want gtx 780 but it is 600€ in my country. Most of performance issues comes from shitty servers, i have no problem in single player(Showcases,editor,..) As far as i know for Wasteland Sa-matra servers are the best.
Do you have any idea what it is to rewrite an engine? Arma 3's engine is the cumulation of years spent developing it. It could take them years to build a new engine without working on building an actual game.
I would like to buy the game but i am not that good a shooting and such im very casual and i dont want to be the dummy in a squad that fails the plan so shouldi buy it or not any feedback is welcome
I don't get your point man... Graphics are just great in A3, large scale battles, pretty good fps (with an appropriate pc ofcourse) and limitless possibilities due to editor and mods..
let me stop you right there, you want to transition weapons whilst running and seamlessly, on the move... in an Arma game. Methinks cod and BF3 have divorced you from reality.
I gave up Arma 3 after the final version is out. Altis kills my PC. I can run all the next-gen games with no problems or performance issues. Shame, because Arma is a good series.
There is nothing that can even remotely compete with the Arma 3 engine. Battlefield's Frostbite 3.0 looks nice, but its no sandbox and has TINY maps compared to Arma 3.
It's not the game's fault if multiplayer missions is badly coded/scripted(especially Wasteland)... Have you tried Official MP missions in a low ping/high broadband server?...
i agree @manneneekeri i have a good pc and when in multiplayer 15 - 20 people my fps n prossessor craps out and is like No i dont wana run arma 3 at good fps anymore
all that you see in this video, you'll never actually see in game. this is a tight knit group working together. you'll never experience combined ops in a pub game.
no hes right, I can play BF3 for example on ultra 1080p at 75fps while i can only play this at like 30 on mulitplayer, it is just a badly optimized game.
I play ar 2 on high settings but for decent frams have to play arma 3 on low is it having problems at the moment, will it be updated or should I just get a gtx780
