After the shooting in Uvalde, politicians predictably demand gun control. But might trained, armed teachers be a better solution? (Not arming all teachers -- just those who volunteer.} One school district in Texas tried that:
As a veteran I have to roll my eyes every time someone says a handgun is no match for an 'assault rifle'. In close quarters the hand gun is faster to deploy and aim. Also claiming 12 officers with hand gun is no match against a single long gun is ridiculous at best. The shooter would be focusing on his direct threat on his life as apposed to shooting kids at will.
@@spartin001full not only the fact that you can draw a pistol and place on target fast there would have been multiple hand guns pointed at the shooter and he could only engage one at a time. Plus sighting a target at close range with a rifle is not as easy. People that claim otherwise have never shot either in a high stress situation.
Yeah the complete disregard for any tactical considerations is pretty mind-boggling. Surprise/initiative? Cover and concealment? Flanking and numerical superiority? Disparities in technical proficiency? Nope! "Big gun make little gun useless." Brainless!
@Dan Trebune You don't need special training to figure out simple concepts like "he's focused on someone else right now," "he can't aim at both of us at once," and "if I shoot first I may win." Which is especially important since we were talking about civilians more than cops here. This issue isn't about the issues with the lowest common denominators, it's about improving on the current state of things. More armed teachers means a greater chance of a capable one of them being in place to take down a murderer in the act when given the opportunity.
I’m a teacher in middle school. I’ve been shooting most my life. I train regularly, I carry a firearm every time I step out of my home with a permit, even though my state just passed constitutional carry. The only time I’m without my defense weapon is when I’m teaching. It’s ridiculous that it’s a felony for my to conceal a weapon at work. We have one female resource officer that I don’t trust not to run away at the first sign of trouble. Let me protect myself and my students
Amen! Founders were felons with weapons, maybe being a felon isn't so bad (I'm sure you'd get bailed out fast if you went to prison while saving every child's life, that would likely start a small revolution in freedom and actual safety for teachers and students if they see the hero dragged off in chains). I'm not a lawyer though, but depending where you live I can almost guarantee you'd go to jail sadly, but then again confined prison 6ft under is a longer sentence, and some things are worth protecting. Also I'd avoid the use of permits, you already signed away your rights for a permission slip (which as you see means you're not allowed to even have a 2nd when at work), permissions slips are how we got here, and by having one implies others are not worthy (the only point to the exemption slip is to state EVERYONE without one is not worthy). Those things are horrible.
I was in the Marine Corps and did 4 years, got out and spent 26 years in law enforcement. My daughter is 29 now and I would have had no problem with willing teachers being taught or trained on a carry firearm. Some of the worst shooters I have seen in my life were fellow cops Male and female. Cops rarely go on their own and train and maybe qualify once a year. I can't imagine willing teachers being worse than what I have seen.
Well said! I have two friends that are police officers. They shoot only once a year to "qualify", never clean their firearm and don't even bring their firearm home because they don't want a gun in the house.
That's what I say. Take all these anti-gunners then drop them in the middle of an active shooter situation with a bag full of guns and see what they don't grab for. My money's on it ends up looking like a bargain basement sale. On top of it they're going to grab for the most tacticool items available. All the scary black guns will be the first ones to go.
Those that have been indoctrinated, they would probably say that until the last second of their life. And that dumb kid that said its a bad idea cause its an "unfair" fight has zero grip on reality. He learned about guns from COD and GTA
That’s not the logic they use. Their logic is “I wasn’t thinking ‘I wish I had a gun’, I was thinking ‘I wish he didn’t.‘“ I’m not saying that logic isn’t flawed, just that that’s what they think.
No no and no, why so this just an issue in the US? It makes no sense, you shouldn’t need to carry a gun. What if the teacher carries a gun and they are the one who ends up going crazy with it? The guy who shot up the Florida school knew there was an armed guard there and I didn’t stop him going there and doing it. And yet all the pro gun people say the psychological effect it has on bad guy is enough to stop them. Did happen there. There’s over 200K offensive uses of guns, thousands of murders, yet the U.K. now had multiple cities gun free and even murder free. All with education and control measures. The bad guys can’t get guys there simple as thanks to the strict laws. The stats also show carrying gun make the bad guy more likely to use theirs as they know they might get shot. So it doesn’t help the situation. And not everyone is tough and can handle a situation like that, can take a bullet, handle the pain, or even shoot a person, even with the training special forces get they even admit they shoot around a person.
My logic is: if the teacher is well-trained there is literally ZERO downside. If a teacher wants to bring a gun to school to hurt their students nobody would stop the teacher anyway, so it’s not like teachers having guns puts the students in any more danger than they’re in on a daily basis, as long as the teachers are well trained and responsible.
I don't think anyone has mentioned that not only do teachers want to protect children but maybe the teachers would like to be safe and go home at the end of the day.
@@antoniolewis1016 if a teacher wants to hold a gun to a students head they’ll bring it to school and do it anyway with nobody stopping them. Your little laws are idealistic and do nothing
Utah has allowed teachers to carry for about 10 years, now. There have been no school shootings in that state during that time. Keene ISD is definitely setting a great example.
One of the first things you find online about Utah school shootings is how parents disarmed their own kid who had stolen their guns and ammo and brought it to his high school. Even though there wasnt a shooting, teachers having guns in Utah didn't stop that kid.
I lived in Utah for 22 years, several teachers brag about their markmanship. My pre algebra teacher, an unsuspecting 50 year old sweet lady would brag about being able to take out any item in the room with her Magnum. It was a memorable story and good deterrent for wannable shooters.
its like bad guys targetting homes they suspect are not "armed".. they pick out easy targets. Not evey teacher would choose to train and be armed, but the thug doesn't know which are armed. makes them think twice maybe.
What's despicable is teaching someone NOT to defend themselves or others. "Not a fair fight"??? WTF, so is not being armed at all! Teachers are just people, not saintly pacifists. And if there are those who would target students, why wouldn't we do something more active to protect them?
Why are we listening to 16 year olds who were involved in a tragedy. Arm the teachers who want firearms. Protect the children. Tear down the gun free zone signs and put up. Teachers are armed and trained to use their firearms to protect the students with deadly force
When I heard that I thought, why yes teachers should have an equal if not better rifle behind the desk, or at least a sawed off 12ga.... Then realized he wanted them to use fists against a ranged attack!?! The kid not play any strategy games, you can't use fists against machine pewpews (and if you're a criminal, there's no reason you'd follow pewpew control)
Exactly. All the snearing at and dismissing the fact that "something is better than nothing" doesn't make it any less true. The left's warped ideology once again finds itself crushed by suffocating logic. Of course, the reality is all they care about is trying to remove guns as much as possible from -- everyone (presumably to free up more time for students to make informed decisions on what sex they are). Nevertheless, once the threat appeared, the Uvalde teachers most certainly would have preferred a chance rather than no chance.
I remember the California incident from when it happened. The teacher was a member of the local police auxiliary. A captain, as I recall. He was playing macho and being stupid. He never should have had unholstered his weapon. The ceiling panel frame came apart and fell. The student needed bandaids and didn't seek treatment outside what he got at school.
oh yeah 🤣 i think i remember the guy saying something about he was the only person in the room or in the school who was well trained and responsible to enough to handle his gun. he accidentally shot it at exactly the end of the sentence. hubris is the enemy of training lololol
Who do you think is "the government"? The teacher is a government worker. The sheriff is a government worker. Arming the teacher IS arming the government
@@afriendabroad2083 I don't think it's the 25 year old teacher people are suspicious of I think it's the people who are high up in government organization who may or may have not have been involved in some tomfoolery
I'm nearly 70 yrs old and have been enjoying everything John Stossel produces. He is one of the most level headed, down to earth person I know. And once again he hits the nail on the head with this video. Keep up the good work John, we need you!!
I am a teacher, I teach college and high school, and I have argued for suffer asleep for allowing teachers to train with local law-enforcement, or teachers with law-enforcement or military backgrounds, to carry concealed. I even argued that we should team up with the local sheriffs department swat teams to do drills or active shooters. What was the response? Oh my, guns are evil, and it will terrify the students to know that their teacher has a gun. What absolute bullshit, what’s worse a teacher who’s trying to protect for a teacher who is armed with a chair, or an armed and trained teacher who can adequately protect their students.
@@inexplicable01 you must also be the same type of person who believes a sticker on a door declaring “Gun Free Zone” will actually deter demented individuals from bringing guns into schools 😂😐. Chances are you also think surgical masks can stop Covid and that Omicron is a highly deadly variant. And since you obviously can’t see that guns also SAVE lives, go back to Starbucks and sip your 12.00 Chai whilst complaining about “white privilege.” Oh and the crippling gas prices and inflation killing our nation, it’s due to leftists like you who voted for that insufferable creep who are RESPONSIBLE for the destruction of our economy and the lives of good and decent people. But don’t worry, the melanin levels in a persons skin reflect their innate nature, it’s why those with lower levels of melanin are so privileged… oh… yea…that sounded awfully racist, I’m sorry.
@@inexplicable01 Maybe you should not live in the United States if you think people should not have the right to defend their own lives, or the lives of children in their care.
The right to self defense is not only an American right, its a god given right of anyone anywhere. It's your life and you have every right to protect it with whatever means. It's just some countries don't believe that.
Losing freedom of speech will also end up losing all other individual rights, which is why both are under such brutal attack. Some feel the marxian prophesied global utopia won't unfold if individuals have rights based on reason.
Learning about the Reichstag Fire and subsequent Decree helps to understand how a crisis is manufactured and exploited as a means to strip rights. The rights suspended indefinitely were essentially our First Amendment.
The right to self defense is inalienable and exists independently of government. In the United States, the 2nd Amendment was created as a vested right to protect the inalienable right of self defense.
You are the only first world country that has this continuing problem over and over and over and over again.... It is way too fucking easy for these to fall into the wrong hands. The laws are way too loose.
When is was in college i carried on campus, yes it was and still is legal. One of our professor liked to ask all the vets to sit by the door. She felt that at least one of us was probably armed. And she told us that if something ever happened she knew we would do what needed to be done. She just left it at that.
That's kinda nice in spirit, but lots of vets hate having their backs to the door for exactly that reason. I guess it depends on the layout of the room.
@@SeraphsWitness I can see your point. In a stadium style lecture hall there are typically 3 places an entrance will be. Center back - everyone has their back to the door. Lateral to the presenter. Midway/half of the rows are at a higher level and half descend to the “stage”. In the latter 2, I can see a spot where a vet could sit in an advantageous position without their back being to the door. In the center back entrance, their most comfortable and advantageous spot is probably the back corners. I’m sorry I like to overthink things
That's one hell of a silly argument that student made. "Oh gee, a handgun vs a machine gun is considered an unfair fight? Would it be better for teachers to use their fists instead?" The educational system failed this kid.
I know right? Plus a person with a lesser gun can take down someone with a greater gun! It's happened many times! Basically you need at least a firearm to have a chance!
@@mehoyminoy1326 Bruh lol! But seriously someone with a weaker gun can win against someone with a stronger gun. Like every fight to win, you have to use what you have better than your enemy uses what they have.
The police response was terrible, how did this kid get $9000 worth of equipment? Teachers having a glock or a 45, I doubt that suddenly there will accidental deaths, most people aren’t stupid. A shooter will always prefer a gun free zone, if there are none, they might think twice.
He actually had a brand new truck as well…all told, the amount was $80,000. So, if someone, ANYONE, can explain to me how a kid working a part time job (what, 8 hours/week?) and nobody notices or questions where the money came from, that’d be great. Trump was RIGHT.
I'm confused about the truck as well. Hearing different things. Hearing it was a 60 to 70k truck, also hearing it wasn't in his name. If these things are true.. How did he get it? When did he get it? and who's name was it in? Different sources give different stories.
No no and no, why so this just an issue in the US? It makes no sense, you shouldn’t need to carry a gun. What if the teacher carries a gun and they are the one who ends up going crazy with it? The guy who shot up the Florida school knew there was an armed guard there and I didn’t stop him going there and doing it. And yet all the pro gun people say the psychological effect it has on bad guy is enough to stop them. Did happen there. There’s over 200K offensive uses of guns, thousands of murders, yet the U.K. now had multiple cities gun free and even murder free. All with education and control measures. The bad guys can’t get guys there simple as thanks to the strict laws. The stats also show carrying gun make the bad guy more likely to use theirs as they know they might get shot. So it doesn’t help the situation. And not everyone is tough and can handle a situation like that, can take a bullet, handle the pain, or even shoot a person, even with the training special forces get they even admit they shoot around a person. Also aren’t nearly half the gun deaths accidents?
I see others who have pointed this out, but Utah law has allowed anyone with a Utah concealed carry permit to carry on school grounds, including teachers and staff. I've known several teachers who carry and I've always appreciated that they do so.
When your life is in danger and seconds matter, the police are just minutes away from holding back neighbors, friends and family from intervening on your behalf as they watch and wait to see what happens to you.
So a teacher with a pistol is an unfair fight and they shouldn't have pistols, but a teacher with a chair versus a rifle is perfectly OK. These people really do not think their argument through.
They have no rational arguments. What they really think is that they can somehow eliminate every deadly weapon on Earth. They know they can't do it all at once but they figure if they just do it a little at a time they'll get it done eventually. Of course they're wrong.
When I went to HS in the early/mid 80s we actually brought our firearms to school. It was for the after school gun safety course (voluntary or if you want to get a deer hunting license before you were 16 if memory serves) . We put them in our lockers in the morning and took them out at the end of the day. Given we were told not to bring any ammo and this was for one of the last sessions to make sure you completely understood our own firearm before going to the firing range that weekend. Very good firearm safety course that focused on safety and respect. Oh how times have changed
1970's in Canada my local high school (admittedly in farm country on the prairies not in the urban East) even had a target range in the basement and the local hunter safety program stored some .22 bolt actions there for the junior hunter program that you could take as young a 12-14. No one really thought anything odd about it anymore than the driver training program that was run there as well.
@@monsterzero9456 - In the 1980s, the population was about the same distribution between races. We actually have more Asians now proportionately. The real reason is that we still took people who were potentially violently disturbed out of the school system, rather than leaving them in it. But now, even suggesting that someone's kid is "troubled" or "psychologically disturbed" will net the school and the person who said it a lawsuit.
I went to High School in the mid 80s too. I grew up in a small north Florida town and everyone had gun racks in their rear windows usually will rifles in them, including high school students. No one ever batted an eye at it. It was the norm to see a student's truck in the parking lot with a rifle in the gun rack.
That's right. In Texas, we SHOULD LEAD THE WAY. Allow law abiding, responsible teachers to conceal and carry especially in more populated districts. Mass shooters are attractive to gun free zones and pitching a "gun free zone" sign has not and will not stop a deranged killer. My gf is a teacher and is terrified of the possible danger of going into work when there may be a shooter going after her children.
When I went to school in the 80s the idea of armed teachers was unthinkable. It was a lot easier to get guns back then too. Goes to show it's not a gun problem it's a degradation in morals problem.
When I taught in the 70s, no school shootings except for Kent State. In the 80s, the high school where I taught was in the middle of disputed gang territory. We were THE safe place. Still no talk of arming us. 90s school shootings begin. Not arming us yet. 30 years later and we still have no clue how to stop them. Best we have after 30 years is 1 door schools and arm the staff? Have any of these people been on a school campus lately? Huge places. 500 to 3000 kids. Large support staff. Constant coming and going of maintenance staff, district personal, etc. A comprehensive high school is a small town. An elementary school is a village. And the best we've come up with, after 30 years, is arm the staff and bar the one door!! You are right. It's not a gun problem. It's deeper than that. I keep asking why one common factor in most of the school shootings is that they are carried out by boys. Suburban boys. Mostly white. It's not inner city kids run amuck. Please keep advocating for other solutions than arming those people who want to be caring educators...not badass bitches packin heat.
I went to school in the 80s90s. You were more likely to have a gun then because lots of people hunted. There was small bore and trap shooting. In my dads day they trained with bren guns in school cadets. Now everyone is scared.
@@nancyskomars1230 you may not want to carry. But that doesn’t mean other teachers don’t want to. It behoves the district to find out who does and send them to training.
@@sunayakong8537 arming teachers is still your best solution? After 30 years of shootings, in and out of schools, more guns is the solution? What about the fact that the shooters are boys? Suburban boys. And when word gets out that teachers are armed, you expect shootings to stop? Grocery stores, parties, churches, strip malls, Walmart...all had mass shootings. Arm everyone is your best solution? History tells us that the Wild West was tamed in part because sheriff's enforced No Guns in town policies. They could see that guns, in town, were not necessary. Wyatt Earp might disagree with your stance.
What grade did you teach? What is a student tried to take it from you? I teach high school and teenagers are very impulsive and beholden to peer pressure and trying to look cool. I don't want a gun with me whenI am in a room alone with 30 teenagers.
@@MP-ef9yo You can keep it in a safe man. I don't know why y'all act like no one has ever had these questions before. There are answers, and if there aren't, there will be. Legislating things out of existence is the WORST and least effective answer you could possibly have to a problem. Especially a problem like violence.
Ohio is also enacting legislation that will allow teachers to be armed, given 24 hours of training in the use of those firearms. A minimally trained **ARMED** teacher **INSIDE** the school is **MUCH** better than an entire squad of police **OUTSIDE** the school.
24 hours of training is a JOKE. We have had these discussions on our campus as well, and we have a police academy too. None of the police instructors are in favor of this kind of training. Neither is our campus police. What's next? Arming doctors and nurses too? Or shopkeepers? 24 hours training and give them a gun and expect them to perform in a similar manner as a trained police officer or campus security guys? Come on...
@@mathisnotforthefaintofheart It is **NOT** a joke to provide 24 hours of training. That's eight 3-hour sessions, and any session that goes longer than three hours of firearm training is probably too much for one day, anyhow.
@@arinerm1331 Teachers need to teach, that is their job. It is not a teacher's job to protect students, unless the teacher is from the police academy or some retired cop, who carries anyway. What's next, arming students too? Nobody is interested in the old Wild West. In Switzerland, gun ownership is equally high and yet, they don't have this shooting problem. Why is that?
@@mathisnotforthefaintofheart The SCOTUS in Castle Rock v. Gonzalez also opined that the police have no obligation to protect anyone, either. So, Ohio's plan to allow teachers to carry makes Ohio's school **much** harder targets. That is a good thing.
"if teenagers do not get any good attention, they will go after bad attention...it's one thing to be hated, but it's entirely different to be ignored" "I'd rather be dead and infamous, than alive and anonymous" More laws will not fix fantasies of notoriety
I think you are onto something. Notoriety, clout -- kids demand this these days. Normally they can get it from social media. But those who can't, or struggle, may seek other avenues.
the product of the lack of 2 parent households. We've incentivized single motherhood and made it extremely easy and profitable for women to divorce, splitting a family apart. There is tons of evidence that suggests one of the most harmful things you can do to your children while raising them, is raising them in a single parent situation.
Armed civilians deter violence and crime ALL THE TIME. Just like seatbelts in cars- good to have it just in case, all the time, and they save more than they hurt.
We need them at work, too. Police arrive well after most tragedies occur. Responsible gun owners should be able to protect themselves and those around them.
@@8wheeledassassins. I agree this is why I carry in “gun free” zones, I will not let myself and the innocent people around me be victimized if I could help it
You can at work, unless you work in a school or gov building. Its not against the law to ignore company policy. But teachers will go to prison if they do.
@@8wheeledassassins. That constitution was written in the 1700’s when they musket rifles and this country was worried about european forces attacking. If you want to go back to musket rifles & musket rifles only then I’m all for it. We don’t need to be selling military style firearms to civilians, that only created tragedies in this country. Protect our children by changing the laws, not adding more weapons in the hands of anyone over 18.
Allowing teachers to be armed and training them to properly handle them is a great idea. I am glad you also brought up the reality of school shootings: tragedies but not common occurrences.
@@bessermt Nice try... but the majority of those shootings were NOT shootings where the school was the target. They were shootings where a STUDENT with one gang affiliation was shooting another student or students with another gang's affiliation. And, most of those shootings also happened in cities with extremely restrictive gun laws. Cities ran by Democrats. And, they were schools that were located in the "hood". Oh gee, imagine THAT. After the school shooting in Florida, the laws were changed. Jacksonville, and many many other cities in Florida, now have armed teachers and administrators in the schools. They are trained by the police in tactics (among other things), have the ability to communicate with each other via radio, and can even communicate with the local police on their frequency. They, like the teachers in this video, are known ONLY to themselves and the local police. That way if the shooter is or was a student of the school, they will NOT know who they are, or what they are capable of, until they act. They can have their "Security Team" vest on, and their gun in their hands in three or four seconds. And, seconds COUNT in a mass shooting. Sheriff Grady Judd of Florida's Polk County said it best. Most mass shooters are DONE in five minutes or less. It takes five to ten minutes for law enforcement to arrive on-scene. That means, by the time law enforcement has made it there, it is WAY TOO LATE to prevent the incident. It has already happened. A mass shooting MUST be stopped in seconds. The ONLY people that can react in seconds... are people already IN the school... administrators and teachers.
@@donf3877 Tell that to the trained police that took 45 minutes to act after arriving that teachers can do better. The last time a school administrator stopped a shooting was 25 years ago. You lied about the gangs shootings too. You flat out made up that crap and we both know it.
They should allow this in every school. One of the reasons schools are targeted is because they know no one else is armed in the school probably the same reason why no one goes to a gun convention to try and do a mass shooting 🤷♂️
All gun free zones are just killing fields. Because criminals ignore laws. They see gun free and think good, I'll be the only one there with a gun. Kind of gives them an advantage then.
“Required to carry guns” “Arming teachers” Shows that for many people there are only two cases: Mandatory and Prohibited. It doesn’t even occur to them that the vast majority is that middle ground: Voluntary. The word Liberty appears throughout America’s founding documents. We have a statue named for it in New York Harbor. Yet so many people today, educated by government schools, have no idea why that word was so ubiquitous.
It's much more important to pit the left against the right than to suggest a middle ground. Please take your common sense something else, there is no place for it on the internet!
@@bessermt with that faulty logic, you don't have the right to free speech online, since the founding fathers "intended" for it to be public town squares and not message boards on Reddit.
@@Stormer13 I support your right to post on public town square message boards. I don't support your right to have a fully automatic weapon. I do support your right to join a well regulated Militia.
@@bessermt where exactly are you seeing full auto weapons in the hands of people? Almost every single firearm you'll find is semi-auto. Granted, there are skilled marksmen who can pump out rounds faster than fully auto rifles, but that's just a skill issue for you. Until then, I suggest you stop listening to the news about what kind of weapons are being used and just look into them yourselves. Most news anchors you see on TV wouldn't be able to tell you the difference between a hunting rifle and a six shooter. Thankfully though, I don't need some random person's permission to exercise my rights since they're enshrined in the Constitution. What a glorious thing it is.
94% of mass casualty events with a firearm are in "gun free zones" like schools. Elimination of gun free zones anywhere there are no armed security and metal detectors would save many lives. Harden our schools and allow staff with permits and adequate training to be armed. Allow volunteers like retired police, veterans, etc with proper training to supplement the armed presence in and around schools. We can solve this without restricting the rights of law abiding citizens.
Insanity. Most of us don't want to live in a war zone created by the paranoid gun nuts. Speaking of restricting rights, what about the rights of the average citizen who doesn't want to walk through metal detectors and quasi-military check points every five minutes. You paranoid gun nuts created this dystopia.
Joe Biden doesn't believe in hardening schools because every dead kid is political bargaining chip they get to use to try and steal our 2A rights. That shouldn't surprise anyone though since it's the same libtards who advocate for murdering millions of unborn babies every year. They absolutely despise children and love watching them die.
“A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.” There can be many security issues , private and public that affect the welfare of a free people . Our children’s safety , security is but one … Police , by Supreme Court ruling are not required to protect the safety and welfare of anybody or anything …
It is implicit, but sometimes I really wish it had been explicit: "A well regulated... free State, the RESPONSIBILITY of the people..." And the lemons (so many wars) have provided much lemonade (combat vets) to help train those in need.
The second amendment was written back when we were still fending off the British and the country didn’t have a very large organized military. Thus, the amendment in question is no longer relevant. Today, we have 6 military branches and 50 state national guards. The US government doesn't even recognize any militias. What do need a militia for anyway, overthrow our government? That was tried last year, and failed.
@@smorris281 Clearly, handing over the responsibility of defensing oneself has failed. All those forces you listed have not shown success at the local level and laws are irrelevant to the lawless, especially with such accommodating neighbors. To continue to do what doesn't work is not very wise.
The only teachers that are fit for this job, are the teachers of our local police academy. I can tell you that NONE of our police instructors are in favor of what you are promoting. None! Neither is our campus police.
What they really need to do is replace the sign with powerful magnets. Magnets so powerful they can suck the firearms from anyone that approaches. That might work. Of course magnets that powerful will probably suck nails out of boards too. So there's some technical challenges that will need to be overcome before it can be implemented.
Certainly, defending the innocent was never the prerogative of the trained official. The idea of the trained official arose out of the recognition that it is a societal responsibility to defend against harm the innocents. A better citizen, brave, responsible to law and who is willing to defend their community from morally corrupt persons is needed. Whatever your occupation defending innocents is the moral choice and if it requires armed response, so be it.
My favorite part about this is how the pundits declared that teachers carrying a gun was insane, then paused for applause. I'd love to see them asked why it's insane. If they actually believe what they're saying and not just probing for favorable sound bytes, then it almost certainly stems from ignorance: most people aren't out to kill others and take the responsibility very seriously, especially when it's in an official capacity. Plus, it's often pretty easy to be better trained than police officers in the use of firearms.
I would ask them “if guns in schools are bad; then why does the school that the children of senators and representatives go to have many armed guards?”
My favorite part is how gun nuts who've spent years making it easy for psychopaths to get their hands on high capacity weapons - completely ignore that and act as if it's the lowest paid professionals in America's job to clean up the mess they've created. Read the list of dead teachers and kids in Uvalde - AND KNOW THAT YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE.
@@Juggernaut-fg2up teachers being single that are available for dating are about as common as a frog hopping around in Minnesota in November. Your story is not the typical story about teachers in general.
Dirty little secret... Most cops are not very capable with a gun. The profiency level for an officer is remarkably low. Check into it for yourself. I learned in training most cops are required to only be 30-40% proficient meaning they hit the target roughly 3 out of 10 times to qualify. Just saying...🤔🤔🤷🤷🤦🤦
Hell, If I was still teaching and then let us carry firearms to school, I would definitely be carrying to school. That way, if someone does come in and start shooting, I at least have a chance to protect my students if there is no way to escape instead
Had a history teacher that carried a nickel plated colt revolver on his hip every day. During hunting season you could find a loaded hunting rifle or shotgun in a number of students lockers. That was normal in the sixties and seventies.
I graduated high school in the mid 80s an hour south of Memphis, TN. A majority of the trucks in the parking lot had guns year round, then again Hunter's Safety was taught alongside Home Economics and Government/Civics and we were taught early on what guns can do and why they are dangerous tools to be handled with respect.
They wouldn't even have to arm teachers, as many teachers are now too busy trying to get their students to change "genders" and teach them Critical Race Theory, anyway. We need to let private individuals secure our schools, preferably parents, after they are thoroughly vetted, of course. I retired early, and I'd gladly volunteer some of my time, and I bet millions of others would, also. So they can't say it's cost prohibitive. The fact that they don't want anyone armed in schools but the mass shooters, speaks volumes. If no kids are killed they won't have anything to use politically to try and cancel our 2A rights. This isn't difficult to figure out.
The only time we ever talk about violence in schools it is in the context of a school shooting. Nevermind the fact that kids get assaulted every single day in public schools. Sure, arm teachers for rare shooting scenarios but parents also need to arm their kids with age appropriate self defense tools and teach them how to physically defend themselves against the plethora of violent students they'll encounter in public school.
Compulsory attendence of public schools ensures that all our future hard-core criminals are gonna be in there right with the good kids. This is basically the only place that good people have to go in their lives where the real bad guys have not been incarcerated yet and are gonna be just sitting right there with them. Public Schools are basically not nice places. They are places that we have to endure.
@@mobydick3895 public schools are not nice places that we have to endure? That's your stance? If they are "not nice", how did they get that way? And why have you given up and will now "endure"? I taught for 35 years. Mostly comprehensive high schools. Huge places. Nice places. Good things happened there. Great unarmed staff who cared deeply. Seems to me the call to arm teachers is just some people throwing their hands in the air, yelling " whoa is me. There's nothing we can do. Put it on the teachers." I guess a real money saver would to send your armed teachers out after school to protect grocery stores, churches, malls ... America.
@@nancyskomars1230 those are very good points...however the shooters are going after very soft and terrifying targets, like a jihadist might. The Uvalde shooter was not a student at that elementary school. Neither was the man that attacked an Amish school of 10 year olds. You're not working daily at the mall, church or post office caring for other people's kids...however at school you are. We're all part of the society that encourages fantasy violence from the crib. Massive simulated murder on screens and computers. Actors calling for gun abolition, that themselves make millions looking cool misusing firearms for adoring fans. Like nuclear war or tornadoes...we lived with the possibility...and that included times we were caring for our children or OPKs. Stinks, but that's reality. No law is going to make millions of guns dissappear...and we can 3D print them if sales are banned. They're not going away in our lifetimes.
@@STho205 ok...so nothing will change. Guns will not disappear. Kids will always have mental health problems. Shootings will occur...regularly. We are just going to have to fortify our schools and add a gun to our roll book. Gotcha. Or move someplace where this does not occur. Cuz, according to people here, we are helpless and hopeless and armed. Your way ain't working. What else do you have?
@@nancyskomars1230 are you going to commit every student that shows signs of depression to a mental health facility or licensed psychiatrist (not a school counselor which is meaningless)...for on the record medical care. Every child that's bullied...ever. Every HS child depressed over a breakup. If you are a parent would you allow a teacher to do that. She is no trained psychiatrist or doctor. For years teachers have sent recommendations for ADHD to principals and parents convinced to drug the kids with Ritalin up so they'll behave. No teacher in the most recent school would have any interaction with the shooter as he is years past elementary...so do you blame the HS teachers for not having him sent to counseling? Could they....Should they? His parents are long gone, his grandfather didn't care or had stopped caring, his grandmother just fought with him to try and stop his rage. Was this a time for the wishful thinking of "mental healthcare".... everyone involved would have refused. Do we social profile students and adults as risks and send them in for mental health evaluation. Does that mean certain ages, races, incomes, genders need more observation.... Your feelings are quite understandable but your argument is not logical. They suffer from the logical fallacy of the appeal to wishful thinking (aka somebody will do something, just not me). An argument can't be valid if the form is not valid. You know that, with 35 years experience.
"The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes.... Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man." - Thomas Jefferson, Commonplace Book (quoting 18th century criminologist Cesare Beccaria), 1774-1776
You can't truly call yourself peaceful unless you are capable of great violence. If you're not capable of violence, you're not peaceful, you're harmless. This is the end goal: they don't want peace, they want you to be harmless.
Thats clearly bs. There are numerous examples around the world, like every European country for example, Japan for example, Canada, the UK...i dont know why anyone gives this kind of claim the time of day.
@@JTheTeach Hitler took the guns, Stalin took the guns, Mao took the guns. Moral of the story, tyrants always disarm the people before the slaughter. I suggest if you don't like America's gun culture move to Europe or Japan. You're not taking our guns!
@@JTheTeach Canada has a higher murder rate than the U.S. And the U.K. Is a smaller nation and saw no actual effect on violent crime when they banned guns. Japan is an eastern nation, with a different language, culture, and crime rate - rape is to Japan what the media THINKS mass shootings are to the U.S.
If expecting someone to go against somebody with an assault rifle with a handgun is unfair. Then expecting someone to go against somebody with an assault rifle with nothing at all is insane.
Teachers often end up putting themselves between the shooter and the kids, unarmed. Imagine what that dedication and ferocity would be like if the teacher were armed and trained? In the case of Uvalde, the shooter likely would have taken one right in the face when he looked in the window at the teacher he eventually murdered. Train them, Arm them, indemnify them. Anyone threatening their students does so at their own peril.
It's not like they even need to put up a serious fight. Every time we've seen a shooter that encounters resistance, they go into preservation mode themselves and hunker down. Hell, just hurling a few bullets in the shooters general direction would probably slow them down enough to buy the police another 15-30mins. These massacres are general only as bad as they are because the shooter has free reign to just wander around and kill without any type of resistance.
I am fine with armed teachers just protecting themselves; the deterrent of armed teachers protects the students. People are not asking teachers to take a bullet for their students but some will. During these events in schools/gun free zones, hiding and hoping it will be alright is a pretty crappy option.
It is great to see someone with an actually fair and unbiased report on something. You asked the tough questions about the possible downsides of this without making the whole report negative and pushing an agenda. Everyone needs to look at issues like this, nothing is perfect and everything should be looked at with pros/cons considered. Thank you
A teacher in the classroom with a gun when there's an active shooter is far better than a law enforcement officer who is 5 minutes away, no matter how well that law enforcement officer is trained.
What is an ill trained teacher going to do against an active shooter? 24 hours is peanuts. The only armed teachers I can imagine who are perfect for this job are our instructors of our police academy on campus, who always carry.
Carry a gun, it's lighter than a police officer. Obviously train with your weapon and know how to clear and clean your gun, take it to the range every month so you know when the day comes you can do what's necessary.
@@mathisnotforthefaintofheart or a teacher who goes to the range practices with their weapon and gest some training. Not much downside here when the active shooter comes into the classroom, a teacher without a gun has zero chance of survival, the teacher with a gun if nothing else might get lucky. Anything is better than nothing. Remember you're told to run hide or FIGHT. everyone's training says if you have to fight first thing you do is get a weapon. I'm thinking a gun would be a good choice there.
@@mathisnotforthefaintofheart That will work for awhile, but most of their knowledge is stolen US Intellectual property so after a bit they are gonna run out! But you have a great idea for a short term solution. After all, the more ignorant our children are, the easier they manipulated by the inside the beltway crowd.
Remember, police, for all of their bravery, cannot always be counted on in an active shooter scenario. An immediate response time will always be better than waiting for them to show up and enter.
When I was in school, grades 1 to 12, all the boys and a lot of girls carried either folding knives or sheath knives. Do not ask me where the girls carried them, I do not know where, but I often saw them with them. We would sometimes practice throwing the knives and sticking them into an old electric pole or playing our own version of mumblety-peg where we would see how far we could toss them and stick them in the ground as close as possible between another person's feet and as close as possible to a foot. We never had any problems. No one ever threatened anyone with a knife much less used a knife against anyone. Teachers and staff did not think anything about it. They were just considered a tool that everyone had. One time in my English class, we had to write and make a presentation using props to help illustrate what were wanting to explain. I wrote my proposed presentation, turned it in to the teacher, and got the okay for it. On the day we were suppose to stand up in front of class I drove to school, took my 22 caliber rifle and 12 gauge shotgun off the back window rack where I always kept them and my 410 gauge shotgun, double barrel 12 gauge shotgun, 9 mm pistol, 243 caliber deer rifle, and boxes of ammunition and carried them into the school, checked in at the front office, carried them to the classroom, and waited for my turn. No one freaked out or got upset in any way. Matter of fact, when I stepped forward to make my presentation the English teacher asked to inspect my guns and after looking them over she expressed her approval of how well I maintained them and kept them clean. After the presentation was over and before the class was over, I was given the time I needed to carry them back out to the pickup and put them away, with the 22 caliper rifle and 12 gauge shotgun put back in the gun rack where I always kept them. Just like everybody else who drove a pickup to school did. Truth is, at the school I attended, the students were the security system. Any mentally deranged person who walked into my school intent on causing harm would not have lasted more than a minute at best. And if they managed to stay alive they would have been begging for the sheriff to come and arrest them so the knives could be remove from their body and take them to a hospital to have their knife wounds fixed up. So what is the difference between the school I went to decades ago (and still is today) and all these other schools today? Democrats/liberals and criminals fear honest, hard working, law abiding people who keep and bear firearms and for all the same reasons.
@@jfangm Correct! It was called disciplining and holding children responsible for their behavior rather than excusing it for whatever reason and blaming everybody else for unacceptable behavior. And it did not take long before corporal punishment was used. Or what we called applying the board of education to the seat of learning. Which was usually preferred to having your parents called to the school.
I've tried explaining this over and over to multiple people I've talked to about this issue online and in real life and I can never understand why people have a problem with this. You are around legal authority constantly that are considerably more armed than what teachers would probably have and nobody has a problem. Police or security or whatever. They're there for a reason and it's a very simple one. I don't see why we are arguing about the simple concept of having security. It's security people. It's not a new concept. They're at airports, banks, hospitals, malls, clubs, military bases etc. Many of them are armed. Why is that different than having them protect schools as well so they're there to be first to react and potentially stop before too many people are shot? Isn't that what you would want if you don't feel safe having your child at school after shootings like this? I think it's mostly that they have in irrational fear of guns and just assume that anyone who has a gun is just a constant threat which is sort of true I guess but that's the point. You want a good guy who is threatening to deter people like oh I don't know.... SCHOOL SHOOTERS?!?!@?!?
It’s infuriating that so many people think we are crazy for wanting armed people protecting our children. If I knew someone was going in to my children’s school to shoot them I’d rather my 8 year old son have a gun than no one at all. Also for someone to say they wouldn’t want a gun in a situation were their own elementary aged students are being executed is a despicable coward and has no business looking after children, I would have personally went into that school in uvalde and confronted the little bitch my self if I was in the area and I have three children and a wife who rely on me but to not do anything or to not be willing to is embarrassing and shameful in my opinion.
"How do you stop law enforcement from shooting the teacher." Easy, the teacher has several minutes before police arrive. Once the teacher hears sirens they should stand down and barricade. Stop making simple things complicated.
Yea that's such an easy question to answer. Anyone with a CCW knows exactly what to do when law enforcement arrives on scene. CCW holders are the most law abiding citizens on earth.
You don't know how any situation is going to play out. The police can definitely arrive while a shooter is still being suppressed. You may not be in circumstances that allow you to relinquish your weapon even after the police have arrived. I certainly wouldn't throw down until the threat was neutralized. Screw that. I trust folks but only so far. Certainly not with my life.
Excellent reporting Mr. Stossel! I have a feeling we'd have to wait a very, very long time for such quality reports from mainstream media, especially stories which go against their precious "narratives".
Adulthood is realizing that you alone are responsible for your own wellbeing. Enlightenment is realizing that responsible gun ownership is a means to that end.
I teach high school English in San Antonio. My campus has armed police officers on campus. My school also has a nurse on campus to handle medical issues. I was a Navy Corpsman trained in basic life support, first aid, tactical combat casualty care, and care under fire. I keep my medical training up to date and renew it every 2 years so I can serve as a first responder on campus in an emergency. They do this because the campus is large and the time it takes the nurse to get to my end of the campus could be the difference between life and death. If my district allowed myself and other teachers and staff to be armed, it would be for the same reason. The distance between a police officer and an incident on campus could be the difference between life and death.
I fully support teachers being armed... I also support parents moving first responders that are standing outside with their hands in their pockets taking care of a shooter, because the first responders are hiding outside. Remember, Police have no duty to protect anything... not since the 90s due to a SCOTUS ruling.
Took my kids out of public schools and placed them in a Christian private school..with three armed guards and locked doors, cameras and a sheriff deputy that does traffic twice a day we are living in evil times.
People act like you have to attend a police academy or SEAL school in order to obtain enough training to be safe with a gun but that's just nonsense. Gun safety is something that tiny children can learn in 5 minutes. There are 4 simple rules: Treat all guns as though they're loaded. Don't point the muzzle at anything you wouldn't want to kill or destroy. Keep your finger off the trigger until you're ready to fire. Know you're target and what's behind it. These 4 rules are so simple even a public school teacher could learn them.
Nothing's 100%. In a crisis situation like an active shooter in a school odds are people are going to get hurt. The only questions that remains are how many and how badly. Even the best trained couldn't honestly guarantee it'd go perfectly. Some outcomes are better than others are though. I've heard about cops in a shootout and they hit something like 19 bystanders. It was laughable.
In Utah, law allows teachers and school employees to carry concealed on campus. When the law went into effect, local concealed carry instructors gave free instructions to them. How many school shootings do you hear happening in Utah ??
“Pistol versus a rifle isn’t a fair fight.” How so? You aim it, you pull the trigger, a high-velocity piece of metal comes flying out and gets impaled in whoever, or whatever, you aimed it at. Are you saying that if you get shot by a rifle versus a pistol, it’s gonna make a significant difference? While rifles are known to be more deadly, being shot will still take you down to the ground, and any gun can shoot twice. If you get shot by any type of firearm, most likely, you will die after getting shot once, assuming you are not saved by someone else. Whether it be due to an execution shot or whether the first shot was lethal.
These peoples knowledge of guns comes from video games so it isn't surprising that they think the game mechanics that are designed for balanced competitive play are equal to real world physics. Just look at how often they say "just tackle the shooter" as if police can charge a shooter like players in Call of Duty charge an enemy for a knife kill.
@@raziel710 Yeah these Soros kids literally think its call of duty where it takes 5 shots to kill a dude with a pistol but only 2 with a rifle. Newsflash, that's not how fragmentation or biology works- at all. There are people that take 10 rounds from a rifle and survive. Anatomical shots are what matter the absolute most.
I love it. If security guards are armed to protect warehouse property, I should think having trained teacher protecting our greatest treasure is not a calamity
Having armed teachers seems scary when you're afraid of guns. I think that might be the core issue here. I don't fear guns, I fear criminals, which is why I carry a gun at all times.
If a state has CCW permits or constional carry, most people shopping in grocery stores don't even know they may very well besurrounded by people carrying. What they don't know doesn't hurt them.
"You're asking a teacher to fight an assault rifle with a handgun; that seems like a pretty unfair fight to me" He's right! _The teachers should have rifles too!_
I think the better point is we are asking teachers to fight a semi-automatic rifle with their bare hands… wouldn’t it be better if they at least had a handgun. The truth is a few pistol rounds at the killer slows them down at the very least.
First, it is not an assault rifle, which is a rapid-fire, magazine-fed *automatic* rifle designed for infantry use; it is a semi-automatic rifle. You can't have a semi-auto auto… Second, in close quarters, a handgun is lighter, more maneuverable, more concealable, and with training can therefore be more effective as the rifle benefit (better aim at distance and higher velocity projectile) is diminished.
a big issue is that many teachers everywhere are paid dirt wages and are low quality, bottom of the barrel frankly. in my state, we lose so many good teachers to private education or a different industry entirely. its probably part of the reason why school shootings happen in the first place: the education is fake and the teachers are fake. increasing education quality is much more important. just my opinion.
@thaNorthStar.com or maybe it just depends where you're from. Some public schools definitely could be better than private in some areas, but there are still a lot of bad public schools.
Really depends on location but at least where I live the teacher's union is a major problem. All they focus on is teacher to student ratio. We were one of the top 100 public schools in the US when I went back in the 90s and we had an average of 25-30 per class and some damn good teachers. Now we have a MAX of 15 students per class and school performance has been plummeting. The teacher's union is asking this year for more money because they want to bring the ratio down to 10 students per class to "address the performance issues". When you have to pay 3 people for the same job 1 used to do, you can't afford to pay as much.
@thaNorthStar.com It's all locality bud. My step-mom left public for a private school because they offered around 30% more. So if I only applied what was immediately around me to the rest of the US, I would say that you had no idea what you were talking about. You need to realize that your little patch of the world isn't representative of the rest of it.
Most of the schools in an active shooting go into lock down, at least the ones I went to, which involves all the students going into the nearest classroom and locking every door. All doors being automatically closed and locked, with magnetic locks also engaging. The school shooter would then have to break into a classroom, a classroom that has a handgun trained on the door. Good luck getting a long gun turned into the room before being shot by a very angry and probably terrified teacher. Mind you, if a school was really worried about their teachers being under armed with a handgun, they could include automatic gun safes. When ever the school goes into an active shooting lockdown it could then unlock the gun safes. Or just have a simpler mechanical lock that the teacher would know the combination to/have a key for. Probably not a key, kids like swiping things whenever they get the chance.
I went to high school in Israel. Though it was not " required " our teachers carried and the student body was aware. When we went on class trips , the principal would sit at the front of the bus , rifle in hand.
I’ve been saying this for years. It’s about time someone has brought these ideas up on a larger platform. People always want to bring up, how are we gonna pay for it, why are we going to require teachers to do this? You hit most of the key topics. Thank you sir for your good work.
Born and living north of U.S. of America, at first am speechless but I think it's a good idea if a teacher wants to.. I can imagine the "shock" if this conversation ever happened in Canada, NZ, Oz or Britain. ..
As usual from Stossel, an excellent, succinct video. One mistake though... Inside a building and probably only 10 or 20 yards apart at most, a "high powered rifle" has no advantage over a pistol of reasonable caliber such as the most common 9mm. In fact, in tight spaces the longer rifle may be a disadvantage. Besides, the mere knowledge that a school is not an unarmed, soft, easy target would very likely prevent some of the shootings. It doesn't have to be every teacher armed... Or even any teacher at all. All that needs to happen is clear the way free from restrictions so that there MIGHT be a legally armed teacher or other staff in that schiol, to make potential shooters think twice! Take down those idiitic "Gun Free Zone" signs that are like saying, "Come here to commit your horrendous crime, we won't be able to stop you." Of course, it would be even better if some of the school staff were trained and armed, by their own choice and following proper vetting.
Rifles are superior in almost any combat circumstance. We went house to house many times in Iraq. A few carried shotguns, but no one chose to carry a pistol. Rifles, even in confined spaces, have superior accuracy and stopping power. Maneuverability is a theoretical issue I've heard from people without experience: it is not a real issue.
There are hundreds, probably many thousands of Veterans AND retired military that have become teachers after their military service. How many experienced hunters are also teachers?
Yeah I'm glad to see this video get made because I've been saying this very same thing. Listen, you have between 2000-3000 kids on average in any sizeable school in your community. These kids go every single weekday to a place where they cannot defend themselves with anything substantial for 6-7 hours every day. Of course its a damn soft target. It's practically shooting fish in a barrel. The idea that "Oh what if a teacher gets mad and shoots a student" is a ridiculously outlandish idea that when actually put into practice, would realistically only occur probably once out of every 15,000 firearms carried inside of schools. It's an idiotic idea. How often do you hear of a teacher beating up a student, and out of those times, how many were *not* provoked by the student instigating violence? Exactly, extremely few. Let the teachers carry once they are seen to be responsible teachers and instructors for a year or so. This is a *no-brainer.* The discussion should really end here, and I will die on this hill if those children are saved.
I went to Catholic School, my teachers were armed. With rulers, the back of their hands, I remember getting dragged down by the hallway by my ear for saying gosh darn it out loud. But I didn't say gosh darn it, you know what I said
You mean you didn't have your parents sue that catholic school ? When did respect start losing its foot hold ? During the sex, drugs, and rockin roll generation ?
I once ate at a resturant where every employee had a gun, that resturant was never robbed. The same could be said about any other place. If the teachers in Uvalde were armed it may have ended differently.
WHAT FACTS ARE IN EVIDENCE TO PROVE YOUR PREPOSTEROUS CLAIM, LOOK AT ALL THE ARMED POLICEMEN WHO WERE THERE WITH RIFLES AND SHIELDS, (WITHIN THE FIRST 8 MINUTES) WHICH ENDED UP NOT SAVING ONE CHILD'S LIFE, THAT WE ARE AWARE OF! WHO THINKS THAT MORE VIOLENCE IS THE CURE FOR ANY VIOLENCE? WHEN ARE OUR POLITICIANS GOING TO SIT DOWN AND COME UP WITH A MUTUALLY AGREED UPON SOLUTION FOR THIS PROBLEM, THAT SAVES CHILDREN'S LIVES?
All of the cops at the Uvalde massacre were armed….they chewed the fat for an hour instead of “Protecting” which is their job. Why on earth would you compel teachers, whose job is to educate, to take on the police’s job?
How many times have you heard a "security" guard say; I don't get paid enough to handle that! How many times has the cops demonstrated that? You protect those you love. Security/police, I don't trust them in these instances. Strap me up!
Most of the people who frame the argument as "arming teachers" seem to do so with the express intention to misrepresent what people are asking for. We've never said, "Arm all teachers." Instead, we've stated over and over that we should remove government restrictions from individuals who WANT to carry concealed on campus. It's a restoration of choice, not an edict that removes choice.
Aaron Feis, the football coach who was at parkland and American hero, died using himself as a shield for students to escape. He was a concealed carry permit holder and kept his gun at home because it was illegal to carry at work.
@@Live.Vibe.Lasers Antigunners are not acting in good faith and they prove that over and over again when pushed even slightly on the realities of their proposals in regards to "making kids safer"and reducing crime
@@sgt.squirtle2528 Thankfully, Florida has changed that law... and teachers and administrators are now allowed to carry. Of course in most schools that is after being trained by the police in tactics (among other things), and joining the school's "Security Team". However, the teams have the ability to communicate with each other via radio, and many even have the ability to communicate directly with the police on their frequency. Just like in this video, they are known ONLY to themselves and the local police. That way if the shooter is or was a student at the school, they will NOT know who they are, or what they are capable of. A "Gun Free Zone" is NOT a deterrent... it is an invitation.
Blaming guns for the deaths caused by crazed shooters is the same as blaming cars for the deaths caused by drunk drivers. Knowing a school is a gun-free zone is the biggest invitation a mass shooter can get.
I remember going to a Church ⛪️ Organization they had a gun image with a 🚫 don’t sign on it. Imagine that! If a gunman sees that sign 🪧, it’s free game.
I’m very much pro gun but would not trust most teachers Union members with a slingshot. That said it should be up to the individual whether you are a teacher or a citizen.
As another commenter said, we do not need schools to arm arbitrary teachers. We just need to not disarm them without just cause. Let the teachers & staff who can already carry responsibly outside of schools carry inside them.
The key is choice. Someone who chooses "yes" is willing to take and carry that responsibility, and won't have many issues. There's also training that can be instated. Concealed carry also keeps it anonymous and won't draw attention by kids or other staff.
