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Armor Piercing 5.7 (SS190) vs Body Armor (Ft. James Reeves From TFBTV) 

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Комментарии : 189   
@RealCopperKaya
@RealCopperKaya Месяц назад
This was a great time! James is a great guy and a good friend! We will be doing more content together folks! Thanks for watching 🫡🙏😎
@markschoch9509
@markschoch9509 Месяц назад
If you're such a good friend you would stop him from wearing women's shorts. James, if you see this comment, conceal carrying doesn't mean looking like a Ken doll while wearing your wife's shorts. Carrying a micro sized means something completely different to you then it dies to other firearm enthusiasts. You're wife is a lucky woman. 😏 Awesome video gents!
@handroids1981
@handroids1981 Месяц назад
Hey Blue Steel, I now accept you.
@JoshuaG-o2h
@JoshuaG-o2h Месяц назад
I have some 31g issued 5.7s you civilians can’t get it
@thelittledetailscr7231
@thelittledetailscr7231 Месяц назад
​@JoshuaG-o2h We can just load the same projectiles hotter than you are issued.
@DisgustedGenXr
@DisgustedGenXr Месяц назад
OK let me understand what a great time is to watch two people with a combined IQ of God knows what being completely unable to figure out to put something behind the plate to figure out if some thing went through it this is painful to watch I want to get a plane ticket go back in time and put something behind the plate for them
@TheSheridanbrenton
@TheSheridanbrenton Месяц назад
Glad seeing you and James doing a colab together. You both are awesome!
@RealCopperKaya
@RealCopperKaya Месяц назад
Thanks Man! James is a great guy and a good friend! We will continue doing stuff together 🫡
@TheSheridanbrenton
@TheSheridanbrenton 20 дней назад
@RealCopperKaya That would be amazing! James and classic are the two channels I watch the most! Keep up the great work;)
@rustyc
@rustyc Месяц назад
Props to James saying "F it, we ball" and just let Kaya keep shooting more SS190.
@fullfire0
@fullfire0 Месяц назад
You gotta put something behind the plate that isn't touching the plate so the back force deformation doesn't hit it
@glenhar1225
@glenhar1225 Месяц назад
Lesson learned: hit anywhere but the plate.
@shank170
@shank170 Месяц назад
I train for groin shots. A lot of big blood flows in that area.
@Dibbs10101
@Dibbs10101 Месяц назад
Waiting for the collab giveaway. Will probably be a Glock 19 and Kaya’s new jazzercise DVD set.
@handroids1981
@handroids1981 Месяц назад
Followed by the Boxercise video from JR.
@PeteRock1
@PeteRock1 Месяц назад
I love this collaboration. Keep rockin 😎 😊
@n8strength
@n8strength Месяц назад
Would love to see the PS90 tested as well. That 16” barrel should add quite a bit of velocity compared to the 10.5”
@lewishamilton9251
@lewishamilton9251 6 дней назад
not much
@High_Desert_Tropics
@High_Desert_Tropics Месяц назад
Classic should hire James. Your colabs are probably my favorite videos
@coltonriggan4072
@coltonriggan4072 28 дней назад
I’m sure James stays busy between TFB and his real lawyer job as is, but I totally agree. I only watch classic for the James videos 😂
@Snapper314
@Snapper314 Месяц назад
Great job on this video! Some people say the 5.7 round and the FN P90 became almost obsolete once good Level 4 Armor became widely available.
@jjmckay6man1
@jjmckay6man1 Месяц назад
you don't even need level 4 lol. 3+ was plenty to stop that armor piercing round lol. 5.7 was meant to go through level 3a not 3 or 3+.
@alwaystherightanswer
@alwaystherightanswer Месяц назад
The collaboration you didn't know you wanted or needed but now can't live without.
@RealCopperKaya
@RealCopperKaya Месяц назад
Thank you sir 🫡🙏
@M1Fanboy
@M1Fanboy Месяц назад
Great video! I like when these two do reviews together… there is a good dynamic duo
@PrincessParabellum
@PrincessParabellum Месяц назад
I’m jealous of the body armor 😂😂getting more action than me 😫😂😭 lmaoooo
@ericbergfield6451
@ericbergfield6451 Месяц назад
LOL, I like the bro dynamic between Kaya & James
@BronzeAgePuritan
@BronzeAgePuritan Месяц назад
Best comedy duo since Abbott and Costello.
@RealCopperKaya
@RealCopperKaya Месяц назад
😁
@non-binaryjesus
@non-binaryjesus Месяц назад
Why not just set a piece of cardboard behind it?
@OneSevenDefense
@OneSevenDefense Месяц назад
💯
@MattH-wg7ou
@MattH-wg7ou Месяц назад
🧠
@lyfandeth
@lyfandeth Месяц назад
Like to see some off-the-shell 308 and 30-06 against their Level4. Military and hunting rounds, and fire from 50 feet back, to give the bullets half a chance to stabilize in flight. Barrels less than 16" need not apply. 20" barrels preferred.
@joecentral-o9984
@joecentral-o9984 Месяц назад
Buffmanrange does every body armor with every conceived round there can be had.
@jameswick8358
@jameswick8358 Месяц назад
The difference between an educated man and a experienced man is the vocabulary 😂
@glennwilliams3692
@glennwilliams3692 Месяц назад
The bromance theses two have been having lately should turn into a series. lol
@AllAboutSurvival
@AllAboutSurvival Месяц назад
Thanks for the clear demonstration.
@MattAGames
@MattAGames Месяц назад
I think the power of the 5.7 is having it in a machinegun. Anything you empty a 50 round mag into, is going to feel it and it's so controllable you will hit.
@Doublezzranch
@Doublezzranch Месяц назад
Kaya & Jason 🏆 Always a winning combination
@BuffRANGE
@BuffRANGE Месяц назад
Federally civilians are not barred from buying, selling, using, owning, etc Armor Piercing ammunition, of course as long as you are not in commission of a crime.. State laws vary though. There's tons of SS190 on GB all day everyday, even Sunday.
@AniwayasSong
@AniwayasSong Месяц назад
As 'Fun' as all the talk/tests/theories are regarding the effectiveness of the 5.2x28 (Or ANY caliber for that matter), is? For general EDC settings, carrying standard cartridges (ie, NOT expecting to enter a war zone), *IF* the threat is actually wearing body armor? Forget the 'Chest/Center Mass' and just take-out the easier to hit pelvic girdle (Which is UN-armored, 99% of the time). Easy peasey, lemon squeezy!
@miloinaz
@miloinaz Месяц назад
That was fun and a few laughs. Great job!
@DTex.45ACP
@DTex.45ACP Месяц назад
Kaya, you, and I guess short-shorts James sorta, rock! Good stuff!
@voteholyk
@voteholyk Месяц назад
Love the team ups.
@searchBLOC941
@searchBLOC941 Месяц назад
The fact that law enforcement and the military can have things we can't is absurd. And a direct violation of the constitution.
@EKUgrad1
@EKUgrad1 Месяц назад
The new and improved fleece backstop demonstrates the principle well .
@nealgold8442
@nealgold8442 Месяц назад
Great collaboration & topic.
@jammbbs1688
@jammbbs1688 Месяц назад
I have loved my body armor by guard dog they are great for the price and one of the best hidden gems
@user-oy9zy4ds9m
@user-oy9zy4ds9m Месяц назад
I got +P+ professionally reloaded SS190 they’re going almost 2300 fps out of the 4.8” 57 pistol. I wonder how much the extra 200 fps would help
@joecentral-o9984
@joecentral-o9984 Месяц назад
Body armor dawg? Rifle.... Big one. Handgun? Aimr for the 🍆 or the face. ❤
@SeymourPettigrew
@SeymourPettigrew Месяц назад
May I suggest placing clay an hour much behind the plates… then you can see what damage is caused to skin in f even a small amount actually penetrates the plate
@Duck_Boi556
@Duck_Boi556 Месяц назад
I want to see .22 mag (with pointy tip) out of a rifle/pistol vs level 3a kevlar
@SomeReefer
@SomeReefer Месяц назад
pretty much what the 5.7 is. It's always funny to see the 5.7 fanboys act like it is some super cartridge. I owned one and wasn't impressed by the performance or price. Even made some crazy hand loads for it and still wasn't very impressive and wound up selling it after 7 months.
@Doriamo
@Doriamo Месяц назад
I’d like to see that and 22 TCM
@BuffRANGE
@BuffRANGE Месяц назад
@@Doriamo You won't in 22 TCM because of the Overall Length constraints and needing a stubby bullet to keep the powder charge up.
@Doriamo
@Doriamo Месяц назад
@@BuffRANGE so neither type of 22 TCM will be very good at penetration? There are two types and one looks a bit more pointy but still not a real point.
@BuffRANGE
@BuffRANGE Месяц назад
@@Doriamo 22TCM uses a lead core soft point. It can defeat some low class IIIA made from aramid/Kevlar but fails against PE. Because 22TCM has to fit in an overall length constraint a long pointy bullet wouldn’t fit in the magazine.
@FACTS.not.FEELINGS.vet.
@FACTS.not.FEELINGS.vet. Месяц назад
Level III+ body armor may also be able to stop .308 AP rounds.. a 5.7 AP round will definitely not touch a .308 AP round which is ZOOMING around 3100fps then at 300 yards still zooming around 2,351fps hahaha Level IV body armor, which is designed to stop .30-06 M2AP armor-piercing rounds
@Gunmaster909
@Gunmaster909 Месяц назад
Best duo 👊👊
@fuzzy7647
@fuzzy7647 Месяц назад
8.6 Blackout... that would be awesome!
@allthingsconsidered3211
@allthingsconsidered3211 Месяц назад
You can make hdpe plated by saving milk jugs and melting them down. Add a thin sheet of aluminum to the front-ish layers. It’ll only stop pistols if I remember. Some RU-vidr makes ba videos I saw
@scallums
@scallums Месяц назад
Level 4 armor is rated to stop 30.06 AP. I have an AR 5.7 and 10 boxes of SS192 which they were politically pressured to stop making in 2004.
@Shademastermcc
@Shademastermcc Месяц назад
They were politically pressured to not make ss190. Never heard of ss192 being put to the sword.
@BuffRANGE
@BuffRANGE Месяц назад
@@Shademastermcc They still make Ss190, that's a highly controlled round. They pulled "SS192" because of alleged pressure, but literally it's the same bullet as SS195/198 and slower than 198 even.
@QDOG724
@QDOG724 Месяц назад
Try testing the 7.5 brno pistol caliber vs body armor.
@Bryce616
@Bryce616 Месяц назад
Y’all should do a video of pros and cons of suppressed 300blk with the suppressor under the handguard
@SirClicks.
@SirClicks. Месяц назад
Just to let you know, you had it the other way around. M855 is steel core, M855A1is steel tipped. Oddly enough, m855A1 penetrates armor better.
@jonathanyee1478
@jonathanyee1478 Месяц назад
Has .277 fury been tested on armor yet?
@Merica1776
@Merica1776 Месяц назад
OK….im buying guard dog plate now!!
@josephcastro5894
@josephcastro5894 Месяц назад
This was great 👍
@Tattooed_Mexican
@Tattooed_Mexican Месяц назад
Hey Kaya, 0:40 where is New Orins Louisiana??
@jasonsierchio1167
@jasonsierchio1167 Месяц назад
This is a great ad for Bulldog Armor lol
@bobbyberry5559
@bobbyberry5559 Месяц назад
Guard dog
@ronincustomz
@ronincustomz Месяц назад
Soooo....when's the wedding? 😂
@just.a.simplejoe
@just.a.simplejoe Месяц назад
Imagine if you guys also got Garand Thumb in on this for extra resources. All 3 power house RU-vidrs for an epic collab!
@menegene4129
@menegene4129 Месяц назад
Need to give James his own special intro for when he guest stars 😎
@DisgustedGenXr
@DisgustedGenXr Месяц назад
This exemplifies, what happens when a government employee gets involved in anything. you would think if you were trying to figure out if you were penetrating that plate you would put something behind it at the beginning of the test? .
@hexa6672
@hexa6672 Месяц назад
would be cool if you guys can show the 4.6 MP7 AP rounds too
@BuffRANGE
@BuffRANGE Месяц назад
That's the one thing the 4.6 with the AP SX round does better than 5.7, mainly because it's a solid steel round with a copper jacket. It will out penetrate the SS190 all day against armor.
@hvyduty1220
@hvyduty1220 29 дней назад
What gets me is they claim that 5.7 will but armor plates out to 500 meter? Never seen it done.
@user-zi4rq7sq5m
@user-zi4rq7sq5m Месяц назад
4570 government near load hms 430 grain
@katyg3873
@katyg3873 Месяц назад
Now do .22 TCM.
@Doriamo
@Doriamo Месяц назад
I’d like to see that as well!
@bobbyberry5559
@bobbyberry5559 Месяц назад
Kaya, can i send you some clear glasses for indoors? 😅
@RealCopperKaya
@RealCopperKaya Месяц назад
I could use some 😆
@bigblind4085
@bigblind4085 Месяц назад
What's up with the daisy dukes😂
@noahkladivo3752
@noahkladivo3752 Месяц назад
"Please stop shooting me with that thing"
@9x19G19
@9x19G19 Месяц назад
Somebody tell Kaya to check that spot under his nail.
@georgepap5454
@georgepap5454 Месяц назад
How many TFBtv - ers do you need to figure out a witness panel 2 inches behind a plate 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@cercaz
@cercaz Месяц назад
James wants 5.7 so badly to work on armor when he should be using 7.5
@vicdiaz5180
@vicdiaz5180 Месяц назад
5.7 in the SS190 load pierces right through level 3 armor as he demonstrated in a different video. That’s more than good enough to carry in your waistband
@cercaz
@cercaz Месяц назад
@@vicdiaz5180 yea, unobtainium for most people. Regular 7.5 flatnose will puncture Level III at 100
@BuffRANGE
@BuffRANGE Месяц назад
@@cercaz I some how am highly suspect of those claims since level III is M80 BALL at 2,750 fps. 7.5FK is basically 44 mag and good IIIA should cover it..
@cercaz
@cercaz Месяц назад
@@BuffRANGE I had to go back and check. It wasn't 100yds but Tim over at Military Arms Channel did a test on IIIa soft panel. I had mistyped and misremembered, but I'll leave it up
@cercaz
@cercaz Месяц назад
@@BuffRANGE all that being said, it'd be cool if you did a video on it
@dixonwa1
@dixonwa1 Месяц назад
Its the tape thats bulletproof
@handroids1981
@handroids1981 Месяц назад
Straight Test Couple!
@user-ym8nm8md1l
@user-ym8nm8md1l Месяц назад
I'd like to see you shoot a 22-250 Federal Blitz round - 40 gr 4100 fps at that plate to see what happens.
@hops2099x
@hops2099x Месяц назад
6:52 your mom told me the thickness makes a difference
@1nfamyX
@1nfamyX Месяц назад
5.7 is kinda dubious but what it is for sure good at is this:
@1nfamyX
@1nfamyX Месяц назад
LOL im joking yall.
@handroids1981
@handroids1981 Месяц назад
I once bought a demo ranch singlet that had been shot by a fifty cal, back when Matt was a medium size channel... To _this_ day I can not convince people it's legit. I can't even imagine how hard it must be to a tiny, tiny hole ro anyone and oh, phrasing.
@jizomeini
@jizomeini Месяц назад
Amazing how a "little" calibre packs this much power and doing this damage to lvl4 armor with a P90 barrel.
@djjaysky9071
@djjaysky9071 Месяц назад
out of a p90 it struggles to pen 3a
@Shademastermcc
@Shademastermcc Месяц назад
​@@djjaysky9071 Struggles is a strong word. Ss190 has little trouble with 3a and can leave a nice wound channel in gel after the fact. Clay is another great medium that holds the deformation so you can see the energy afterwards.
@ninjagold9244
@ninjagold9244 Месяц назад
If the plate has a ceramic strike face, it will most likely stop that steel core 5.7. A pure PE plate, which is usually very thick but light, is weak to steel core penetrators. I think every level iv plate uses a ceramic strike face, and I'd be shocked if any kind of 5.7 could penetrate it.
@jjmckay6man1
@jjmckay6man1 Месяц назад
that 1st plate was just a PE plate and it did not penetrate.
@BuffRANGE
@BuffRANGE Месяц назад
SO you want some M995 ....
@ianray8823
@ianray8823 Месяц назад
Tape it to two tapatio tasting tapirs too
@sappysiggy2351
@sappysiggy2351 Месяц назад
I thought I seen dust from the first paper hit??
@Drahazar1
@Drahazar1 Месяц назад
If your not using vanguard outfitters or elite ammunition for armor penetration then your wrong.
@Dstev98141
@Dstev98141 Месяц назад
Yup, cool spot, been there!
@ScammyTammy
@ScammyTammy Месяц назад
I actually love you guys and your vocabulary Road bumps you guys go over with each other 😂😂😂😂
@hurrikaneiii
@hurrikaneiii Месяц назад
Put the paper on the backstop.
@joecentral-o9984
@joecentral-o9984 Месяц назад
If you have that muh time for a shot why you shooting the body armor? 😂
@richdubbya
@richdubbya Месяц назад
5.7 and 22mag are vicious.. Nuff said.
@mikereimus8879
@mikereimus8879 Месяц назад
Great video thanks
@jonathonspears7736
@jonathonspears7736 Месяц назад
I mean, not really a fair test of its capabilities. It was never designed to penetrate hard armor. Only soft armor.
@jjmckay6man1
@jjmckay6man1 Месяц назад
yes 3a.
@liamwinter4512
@liamwinter4512 Месяц назад
The round was designed to penetrat a nato kevlar helmet at 100 meters.
@jjmckay6man1
@jjmckay6man1 Месяц назад
@@liamwinter4512 3a.
@thePrussian
@thePrussian Месяц назад
Tape-et-tu is Turkish for also.
@zakartv
@zakartv Месяц назад
But bro, it’s $10 a round… 🤣 çok komik abi Kaya!
@westtexas3041
@westtexas3041 Месяц назад
Great video.
@matthewsandifer2673
@matthewsandifer2673 Месяц назад
Did we have to do a colab with Daisy Duke?
@danefuentes3877
@danefuentes3877 Месяц назад
Only if you're a red-blooded American!
@iansanchez331
@iansanchez331 Месяц назад
The real test here is who can wear the tightest shirt and smallest shorts?
@davidisaacson9328
@davidisaacson9328 Месяц назад
I thought they were going to do a little "pants off-dance off"...but glad they didn't!😆
@THEcd6pack
@THEcd6pack Месяц назад
So if its illegal to sell, but not illegal to own, how does one go about owning it?
@davidisaacson9328
@davidisaacson9328 Месяц назад
Barter someone for it!
@alfredjr2k556
@alfredjr2k556 Месяц назад
Tisas PX5.7
@DustinStapp
@DustinStapp Месяц назад
I'm a Johnny Bravo fan.
@brentsyoutube
@brentsyoutube Месяц назад
After being shot 10 times the integrity of the plate has diminished
@Tslice42
@Tslice42 Месяц назад
Good video but why don’t you just put something behind it like a cardboard box to see if it’s going through?
@TranceMechanic7
@TranceMechanic7 Месяц назад
Tāpitoo! 😂
@sonnyf1213
@sonnyf1213 Месяц назад
awesome
@zakk5887
@zakk5887 Месяц назад
That's an sbr ps90. Don't glorify it.
@Dave-lh6ws
@Dave-lh6ws 22 дня назад
Let me guess, you're the guy at the range asking to see people's NFA paperwork
@Crangaso
@Crangaso Месяц назад
Tape it too . . . . What? Deeeeeeez . . . . Na not deez
@CaptainRedScurvy
@CaptainRedScurvy Месяц назад
So if you can't sell the ammo can you add it as a gift with purchase
@danefuentes3877
@danefuentes3877 Месяц назад
Ok but how would they get it in the first place if they can't buy it?
@davidisaacson9328
@davidisaacson9328 Месяц назад
Gotta straight barter it with someone. No cash exchanging hands!
@StyltsMusic
@StyltsMusic Месяц назад
Least scientific experiment ever lol great video tho
@ferretapocalypse
@ferretapocalypse Месяц назад
If only there was a way to tell if the rounds were going through. /sarcasm
@jasonsierchio1167
@jasonsierchio1167 Месяц назад
I thought Kaya and James were the same person for a while
@frankcastle4435
@frankcastle4435 Месяц назад
Don’t insult James like that
@jasonsierchio1167
@jasonsierchio1167 Месяц назад
@@frankcastle4435 hahaha
@RealCopperKaya
@RealCopperKaya Месяц назад
I wish, but I don’t have luscious hair like James 😆
@jasonsierchio1167
@jasonsierchio1167 Месяц назад
@@RealCopperKaya Hey, compared to me, you both have luscious hair lol
@dilfbag
@dilfbag Месяц назад
🤘 😁 🤘
@RCT21985
@RCT21985 Месяц назад
You guys greatly overestimated that round's capability. That round would have to be going way faster to go through that armor. I don't get why allot of people are so fond of this caliber.
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